I am actually going to wait and see what the 9950X3D has to offer as that is supposed to have the 3D V Cache on both CCD's, which would make it the holy grail for gaming CPU's
The Helldivers 2 benchmark is not repeating the actual game performance. Since the game is quite more taxing on the CPU when you play with 3 other player and have a lot of enemies are present.
Super goad that tou includied the 7900x3d. Most benchmarks exclude it, because it’s usually worse than the cheaper options and more expensive. I got mine on a good deal. :)
Your results are strange in Black ops 6. 7950X3D show always lower fps than 7900X3D when you compare them visually in real time, but at the end, average fps for 7950X3D are higher than for 7900X3D. EDIT : with 7950X3D, you have used 1440p instead of 1080p….
I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
why does the 7950x3d in the second half of bo6 have much higher fps though? :D ah just saw its mixed 1080 and 1440p ... why though? haha why not let them run the same scene with same resolution?
@horus666tube I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
Interesting that the 7900x3d outperformed the 9800x3d in some games. Curious to see more data pop up. My friend needs to upgrade and we are undecided on getting the 9800X3D or the 7900X3D. Waiting for more news and cyber monday prices.
You would be smoking crack to buy a 7900x3d dual cdd chip for games over a 9800x3d single ccd, the only valid reason is if the 7900x3d is going for much cheaper.
The test is absolutely correct and correctly recorded. Windows is up-to-date, just like the bios. Your assertion that Windows has to be reinstalled every time the CPU is changed is nonsense. I have reinstalled Windows several times in the past with every CPU change and there is no difference in gaming performance whether you reinstall Windows or not. If you like, you can prove us wrong with your own test on this topic.
My biggest issue with performance benchmarks theae days, is that no one uses these CPUs on MMORPGs that are CPU Intensive in Raids and highly dense player count areas! That would really show a core shine.
I totally understand only testing at low resolution to get the most accurate results for a specific CPU. You're basically putting max pressure on said CPU workload. And I get why the majority do that. Me personally, I want to see BOTH types of benchmarking, because I do see interesting results when you benchmark at higher resolutions, sometimes you see results that don't quite make sense if you are in the "only benchmark in low resolution" camp. I want both types of benchmarking because I have a 4090 and 7900x3d (I only have the 7900x3d because my 7800x3d died and I had to send it in for replacement, but they only had 7900x3ds in stock...). I'm considering upgrading to a 9800x3d IF the results in real world (I play 4k resolution) actually warrant it. I understand playing in 4k is going to limit basically every game because they are going to be GPU bound. But I am just trying to understand why some results show for example, my 7900x3d have better results at higher resolution than the 9800x3d or 7800x3d. Silicon lottery? I have no idea. I would genuinely like to know from someone truly knowledgeable in that category, because I don't wanna spend a lot of money on a 9800x3d if it's not going to help in my particular situation playing in 4k. Why in certain scenarios, is a 7900x3d outperforming a 9800x3d at higher resolutions in the same game?
I live in fucking Russia and my salary of $1000 a month is considered good here. Tell me that buying a 90800x3d processor is an expensive purchase? Does your salary really not allow you to buy such hardware without problems?
@@hugdel I can afford to do so, it's just a matter if it's worth it because of me seeing some instances where the 7900x3d performs as good or slightly better. I'm just trying to understand why that happens.
I know 4k usually is limited by the GPU. Are there any improvements in some games that nobody could get frame rates on before? Like Hogwarts legacy and Space Marine 2? Which could only get like 90-110fps at any resolution.
1080P The 7800x3D have same 0.1 and 1% lows or better then 9800x3D. Also closer values to avg. loses in max fps. I wonder if game experience feels better in comp games with 7800x3D..🤨
Some experts here? The 7800 doesnt hit 100% so it still has capacities and nevertheless this model is down 15-20% ? What is bottel necking this cpu model? Why is the other better?
I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
I don't believe this data. Clearly in many other reviewers data, the 9800X3D out performs the 7900X3D and the 7950X3 in almost every title. This video shows the 7900X3D and 7950X3D winning in half the battles. Something is off.
You are likely benchmarking the 7950X3D incorrectly. The CPU has 16 cores, but only 8 of them benefit from an increased L3 cache. As of today, the CPU still does not automatically allocate tasks to the 8 cores with the higher L3 cache when running games, as it was originally intended to. To optimize performance, you can adjust the BIOS settings to lower the speed of the non-L3 cache cores. This ensures the cores with increased L3 cache are prioritized, which can significantly boost FPS. ruclips.net/video/LTkXnkSIcso/видео.html
@@xEscaflonex then it was false marketing from their marketing department. the cpu has no hardware scheduler and entirely relies on software/drivers to handle the scheduling of tasks to "right" cores. easiest solution would've been to just give both ccds 3d cache. if they actually designed the cpu to be smart enough to handle tasks in the way you described, they would have needed to design a hardware scheduler for that. they did not do that.
2670MHz I think is pretty standard for a stock 4090. Mine is a regular Asus TUF and it usually hits about 2835MHz after it's overclocked. Not all can hit 3GHz
@@mttrashcan-bg1ro could be, but its shame that this kind of gpu is working same as mine on default(OC edition GPU,4080s), overclocked it my self to 2970mhz and 26.8Gbs memory clock.
Las CPU no sirven para medirse en 4K ya que en esa resolución la carga es soportada por la GPU por lo tanto cuanto mayor es la resolución menos trabajo tiene la CPU y más la GPU por eso conforme va aumentando la resolución los FPS poco a poco se van igualando.
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I am actually going to wait and see what the 9950X3D has to offer as that is supposed to have the 3D V Cache on both CCD's, which would make it the holy grail for gaming CPU's
wait for 20800x3d
@@sebaszewa2669 999999x99d
@@РусланГудошник 999999999999999999999x15d will be gooood
no 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999x199D would even b better wait for tht
starting at 999.999
The Helldivers 2 benchmark is not repeating the actual game performance. Since the game is quite more taxing on the CPU when you play with 3 other player and have a lot of enemies are present.
Super goad that tou includied the 7900x3d. Most benchmarks exclude it, because it’s usually worse than the cheaper options and more expensive. I got mine on a good deal. :)
Your results are strange in Black ops 6. 7950X3D show always lower fps than 7900X3D when you compare them visually in real time, but at the end, average fps for 7950X3D are higher than for 7900X3D.
EDIT : with 7950X3D, you have used 1440p instead of 1080p….
I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
Thanks! I'm stayin with my 7800X3D
Thank you so much... without upscalling ULTRA in 1440p finally 🙂Bo6 ..thumbs up
Your welcome ✌️
why does the 7950x3d in the second half of bo6 have much higher fps though? :D ah just saw its mixed 1080 and 1440p ... why though? haha
why not let them run the same scene with same resolution?
@horus666tube I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
@@hardwareforgamers- yeah i imagined values are probably still correct, when i noticed the resolution thing :D
he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
Interesting that the 7900x3d outperformed the 9800x3d in some games. Curious to see more data pop up. My friend needs to upgrade and we are undecided on getting the 9800X3D or the 7900X3D. Waiting for more news and cyber monday prices.
You would be smoking crack to buy a 7900x3d dual cdd chip for games over a 9800x3d single ccd, the only valid reason is if the 7900x3d is going for much cheaper.
7900x3d alın ve onun x3d içeren cdd çipini diğer çipinden hızlı olacak şekilde overclocklayın, emin olun ki 9800x3d yi geçecektir.
Obviously the 9800X3D bro.......... you gotta be kidding
@@yusufdemirtas73207 9800xd de artık overclock çalışıyor.
The test is absolutely correct and correctly recorded. Windows is up-to-date, just like the bios. Your assertion that Windows has to be reinstalled every time the CPU is changed is nonsense. I have reinstalled Windows several times in the past with every CPU change and there is no difference in gaming performance whether you reinstall Windows or not. If you like, you can prove us wrong with your own test on this topic.
Based off the highwr the load the better performing the 7950x3d is i think the 9950x3d will be perfect for streaming and gaming at the same time
My biggest issue with performance benchmarks theae days, is that no one uses these CPUs on MMORPGs that are CPU Intensive in Raids and highly dense player count areas! That would really show a core shine.
The math aint Mathing SMH.. make it make sense... @00:42
2% slower (7900x3d) = -5 fps,
Also,
2% slower(7900x3d) = -40fps
7800x3D BEST
Not even close
9800x3d solos
broken test as shit, 9800x3d lower 0.1 and 1% fps than 7800x3d xDDDDD n1 joke
I totally understand only testing at low resolution to get the most accurate results for a specific CPU. You're basically putting max pressure on said CPU workload. And I get why the majority do that. Me personally, I want to see BOTH types of benchmarking, because I do see interesting results when you benchmark at higher resolutions, sometimes you see results that don't quite make sense if you are in the "only benchmark in low resolution" camp. I want both types of benchmarking because I have a 4090 and 7900x3d (I only have the 7900x3d because my 7800x3d died and I had to send it in for replacement, but they only had 7900x3ds in stock...). I'm considering upgrading to a 9800x3d IF the results in real world (I play 4k resolution) actually warrant it. I understand playing in 4k is going to limit basically every game because they are going to be GPU bound. But I am just trying to understand why some results show for example, my 7900x3d have better results at higher resolution than the 9800x3d or 7800x3d. Silicon lottery? I have no idea. I would genuinely like to know from someone truly knowledgeable in that category, because I don't wanna spend a lot of money on a 9800x3d if it's not going to help in my particular situation playing in 4k. Why in certain scenarios, is a 7900x3d outperforming a 9800x3d at higher resolutions in the same game?
unless you have a 4080 super or above, 7800x3d is enough
@@PenguinsAreColdish I have a 4090 and 7900x3d atm
@@Davetheguitarhero108 then go for the 9800x3d, very rarely will 7900x3d beat it
I live in fucking Russia and my salary of $1000 a month is considered good here. Tell me that buying a 90800x3d processor is an expensive purchase? Does your salary really not allow you to buy such hardware without problems?
@@hugdel I can afford to do so, it's just a matter if it's worth it because of me seeing some instances where the 7900x3d performs as good or slightly better. I'm just trying to understand why that happens.
which program did u see to track the FPS ?
I know 4k usually is limited by the GPU. Are there any improvements in some games that nobody could get frame rates on before? Like Hogwarts legacy and Space Marine 2? Which could only get like 90-110fps at any resolution.
1080P The 7800x3D have same 0.1 and 1% lows or better then 9800x3D. Also closer values to avg. loses in max fps. I wonder if game experience feels better in comp games with 7800x3D..🤨
this test is broken, 9800x3d have better 0.1 and 1%low for sure. Next broken test from idiot on youtube.
he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
@ maybe that’ true, maybe not..but I’ve seen it before, in other videos. Same thing. That’s the only reason I’m questioning it.
Before you make a false claim here, watch the validation (cpu-z) in the description. There you can see that the testing hardware is true.
@@hardwareforgamers- yes, that's why you using fake cpu z reports and not using msi afterburner, because you are fake.
i need those 7900x3d mobo settings asap!!
If I could switch the 7800x3d for 9800x3d and pay 50$ is it worth the switch and paying those 50$ to get the 9800x3d
Yes
Absolutely
In cs2 on high settings 1280x960 with a 4090 I got 826 fps avg on that same benchmark lol
Same, but 4k included, please!
he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
but why test on gpu intensive games mostly? shouldnt you do majority cpu intensive games and maybe like 1-2 gpu intensive ones?
Some experts here? The 7800 doesnt hit 100% so it still has capacities and nevertheless this model is down 15-20% ? What is bottel necking this cpu model? Why is the other better?
Why on the 1st set of tests the R9 7950X3D resolution set to different than the rest?
I accidentally swapped 1080p with 1440p in the video production. Correct values for 1440p start from 0:20, for 1080p from 1:00. However, the AVG FPS values are both correct. Thanks for the hint and sorry guys
Nevermind, I see where you answered it in the below comments. Great comparison btw.
@@sealteem1 he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
I don't believe this data. Clearly in many other reviewers data, the 9800X3D out performs the 7900X3D and the 7950X3 in almost every title. This video shows the 7900X3D and 7950X3D winning in half the battles. Something is off.
bro fortnite at 130 fps at 1080p?¿
What is the setting even prob low setting no?
Cod bo6 경우 Qhd 이상의 모니터사용시 7950x3d 압승
Wounder if the 9800x3d will help my 4070ti super from 7 7700 non x.i use upscaling at 4k .
в любом случае выигрыш в скорости будет. Но за апскейлинг всё таки больше видеокарта отвечает )) чуда не жди
we need steam pubg results
Should I buy R7 or wait R9 9950X3D?
Where's World of warcraft? It's the most CPU eating game rn
Mais qui joue en 1080p !!!?? En 4k il y’a aucune différence je garde mon 7900x3d😅😅
You are likely benchmarking the 7950X3D incorrectly. The CPU has 16 cores, but only 8 of them benefit from an increased L3 cache. As of today, the CPU still does not automatically allocate tasks to the 8 cores with the higher L3 cache when running games, as it was originally intended to. To optimize performance, you can adjust the BIOS settings to lower the speed of the non-L3 cache cores. This ensures the cores with increased L3 cache are prioritized, which can significantly boost FPS.
ruclips.net/video/LTkXnkSIcso/видео.html
It was never originally intend to do so. AMD was moron for not putting 3D cache into both CCDs.
@@Dex4SureIts how they sold it. Its still visible on their presentation slides.
@@xEscaflonex then it was false marketing from their marketing department. the cpu has no hardware scheduler and entirely relies on software/drivers to handle the scheduling of tasks to "right" cores. easiest solution would've been to just give both ccds 3d cache. if they actually designed the cpu to be smart enough to handle tasks in the way you described, they would have needed to design a hardware scheduler for that. they did not do that.
he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
why your 9700x3D never hits clock over 5000 mHz?
he is fake, its video editing software and you believe him? Lmao.
Why are the 0.1% lows on the 9800x3d so shit
Using Alan Wake 2 for benchmark is oxymoron, that game is hot garbage, from development and optimalisation standpoint
your 4090 seems underclocked, these are clocks for 4080s(Default)
2670MHz I think is pretty standard for a stock 4090. Mine is a regular Asus TUF and it usually hits about 2835MHz after it's overclocked. Not all can hit 3GHz
@@mttrashcan-bg1ro could be, but its shame that this kind of gpu is working same as mine on default(OC edition GPU,4080s), overclocked it my self to 2970mhz and 26.8Gbs memory clock.
Ryzen 7 9800X3D 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
so buying 7900x3d over 7800x3d is better now?
That's what im trying to figure out too!
X3, que decidieron?
7900x3d coold best cpu
Y en 4K? Aaa claro como solo jugáis en 2k 1080p..😂😂
Las CPU no sirven para medirse en 4K ya que en esa resolución la carga es soportada por la GPU por lo tanto cuanto mayor es la resolución menos trabajo tiene la CPU y más la GPU por eso conforme va aumentando la resolución los FPS poco a poco se van igualando.
4090이 괴물은 괴물이구나 저 씨피유들로 다 못쓰네
4k test noob
Fake comparison
Why Ryzen 9 7900X3D lags behind the competion? Does having a 128MB cache really doesn't matched the Ryzen 7 7800X3D?