What does Pascal Siakam agreeing to re-sign mean for the rest of the Indiana Pacers free agency?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The Indiana Pacers and Pascal Siakam have agreed to terms on a new four-year contract. What does that mean for the rest of the Pacers free agency? How will they build around Siakam and Tyrese Haliburton? Host Tony East breaks it all down.
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The Pacers made themselves a contender for the next four years. I think offering the Max to Siakam so quickly suggests they really aren't worried about the tax.
I disagree I don’t think they are contenders atm. If they get like one more key guy then maybe a dark horse contender. Don’t count their conference finals for anything if Knicks or bucks had any of the guys available it’s doubtful they’d have been there. They are a fun team to watch but not a contender
@@MrGreatness90🧢🧢🤡🤡
@@MrGreatness90you have no idea what you’re talking about. You clearly know nothing about basketball if you don’t think we’re contenders. Nobody cares about the injuries or who we had to play. If you watched that Celtics series you would know we’re on the cusp. You’re obviously a bitter Knicks fan or something 😂. Go back to your podcast
I doubt they go into the tax. They think they can be competitive staying under. And they are correct. Getting $12 million from the taxed teams is alot of money to give up.
Come back to me next year at this time with the contender crap. I would bet bet anything that unless they get another big free agent or trade they out by round two next yr. And def not a Knicks fan.
Tony east on top of it
Tony BEAST
Obi cant defend on the ball at any position. But when they played him with Siakam and TJ with Haliburton that line-up was very effective.
I believe the Pacers 2023-24 record without Siakem was better than with him. Only a game or two. Tell me if I'm wrong.
23-18 when he played, 24-17 before they traded for him.
Not a fair assessment with Haliburton's injury, though.
@LockedOnPacers Hali was injured Jan. 8, 2024, missed 10 games. Siakem trade was Jan. 17.
@@Woodsman1956 Correct
Thanks for the info. More importantly thanks for doing math. Math is hard. These other podcasters dont even try to do it.
I do it wrong sometimes. Just hope to do it right enough to be informative.
Andre Drummond, Naji Marshall, Kelly Oubre Jr., Caleb Martin. Pacers won't sign anyone tho.. Probably won't even draft a SF, or a C.
Kessler Edwards on a minimum.. Been nice if Pascal could have taken at least 8 mil less. 42.3 is some bs. We lose our other guy's and they don't wanna go over the tax. Then they don't want to win sh!t anyways and I'll stop watching this team. They don't know how to team build anyways obviously. If you aren't willing to go into the tax. Then why would you pay a player so much that isn't even close to being worth all that.. Might make sense for a team that doesn't care about the tax.
You don’t know anything about the cap and whether or not they are willing to go into the tax. I really hope you find another team to watch
I agree that the max is disappointing. He only showed flashes of being a max player in the playoffs, he wasn’t one consistently.
$35M/yr would’ve been more than fair.
@@impresarkiohe made 37m last year. You wanted him to take a pay cut? Come on with the jokes
@@daledilbeck9621I know about cap. He's a fine player. Just sucks to have to pay that much when having an owner who will let all his young talent walk. Then sign no one else and pretend to look as if they're trying to contend lol. He's also a career 48%FG, 32%3PT, and around 65 to 70%FT shooter. Doesn't average a single block. 1 to 2 Offensive Rebounds and only 4 to 5 Defensive Rebounds. 42.3mil for a small ball C who misses way more than he makes. While consistently missing more than he makes. It would be different if he had big game's in between every now and then.. One thing I give him props on was his performance against the Celtics. But other than that.. His "great" game in Milwaukee, he just shot a ton more. So that's why his number's looked better. But wasn't on high efficiency. He was completely shut down by OG, wouldn't even try to score on him. Didn't even want the ball. Hartenstein also completely shut him down. Couldn't get a single Rebound either. Never gonna stretch the floor, so not gonna want him at PF ever.. So they wanna talk about Myles Turner being gone.. Well Idk who else could play with Pascal. They lose Obi, there goes 20ppg off the bench. Don't sign a SF, then there goes even more depth and lack of defense.. and also Pascals Defense has been slipping every year.. and even if Defensive Rating isn't the best stat, he's one of the worst with that rating at around 119.4.. so it says something about the guy's he's guarding, are apparently scoring on him pretty easily.. while if someone even puts slight pressure. By following him during his spin. He just falls over and throws the ball at the rim.. Guy's could do a better job of getting him in his spots.. and he needs to take more midrange face up, or fades at the elbow.. develop chemistry. He can be much more affective and I think he will be with Mathurin back. Having that extra scoring guard..most of all one that can and will attack.. that's what we've missed the most once we lost Mathurin, Brown and Heild. Was the attacking, scoring or kickouts. Because Hali doesn't do it enough, but really can't attack much when the defense can so easily lock in on him.
Another thing that sucks about Pascal the most as a "Star." Is that defenses just stay in man and dare him to shoot no matter where he's at. He never draws doubles to help anyone get open.. Because they know if Pascal shoots it, he's most like going to miss close to 60% of his shots then to make them.. So no matter what he does give you on Offense.. Everyone else still has to fight like hell to get their shots.
I’m not gunna watch the video but I’m gunna say it makes u mid
We need a center who is willing to be physical and get rebounds. Myles contract should be moved next trade deadline.
Or instead of blowing the entire cap on a mid level player. They could have signed 3 player's. Gotten Hartenstein, Bridges and Naji Marshall or Oubre Jr.. Andre Drummond another choice.. But now they will sign no one. Typical Pacers bs.
They're developing I-Jax to do this... you get 28 mins of Myles putting up an efficient 17 stretching the floor, and 20 mins of a high energy, physical rebounder.
@@warlockmagic3416bro wants three role players and thinks that’s the difference. Cant make this stuff up
Hartenstein would be my choice.
KP was pulling rabbits out of a hat when we acquired Toppin, Smith, Nesmith and Nembhard. In order to fill the roster KP is going to have to keep doing so. Hopfully there are some good lottery picks that were a bad fit that other teams gave up on and 2nd round steals. Further from that the Pacers are going to have to count on the development of Mattherin, Walker and Sheppard in order to continue the momentum into next season.
I like our odds with those three guys tho tbh
Assuming the cap goes up 10% annually does that mean the tax threshold and apron levels go up 10% annually too?
Not exactly. The formula for those is much more complicated and based on league revenues.
If Obi can be signed for less than what Nesmith got, I’m fine. Otherwise, it’s time to look elsewhere.
Exactly. Pacers have the leverage I think. Tell him we want him, but we can't pay him what he can get elsewhere. Let him walk and wish him his best. I love Obi, but he's not good enough on defense for us to pay up for him (given everyone else we've paid/have to pay)
I'd rather sign him to 15 mill a year. If we're looking to consolidate at some point the salary will be needed. There's also a near 0% chance he signs for less than 11 mill
@@tonyschimmoeller Exactly, this is what people dont understand. Look at the Brown deal, you have to have salary to trade. If we didnt sign Brown, we likely dont trade for Siakam. Keeping Obi is 50% about keeping his skillset, and 50% about keeping a medium sized salary on the books thats tradable. Because if you let him walk, you are not replacing either his production or his salary in anyway.
@locked on pacers you know who i think would be a nice fit on pacers, chris boucher, and he likely can be had for a 2nd round pick. only has a year on his contract left as well.
Good player. Finances make it tough but I agree with you that he's a good fit
@@LockedOnPacers just a suggestion, no one talking about it but i thought a cheap tweak that helps rebounding, defence and some 3 pt shooting should be put out there than more expensive options. he has playoff and championship experience and is a hustle energy player. knows his role also.
Obi should go elsewhere anyway-why keep playing for another dunce coach
Obi won’t get more than 8 million a year.
confidently incorrect.
Then he should instantly sign his qualifying offer.
Zero intertaction from Tony regarding comment section. Quasi channel!
Dude is working overtime tracking and vlogging all these details. Also covering fever.
@@itsmytch Lame excuse!
I've seen him reply to comments before, you're just a jerk
Hello
Tony responds to comments all the time lol