Why Nobody Plays Exodia Retrains

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2022
  • I finally got around to making a video about why nobody plays Exodia Necross, Exxod, Master of The Guard, Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord, The Legendary Exodia Incarnate, or Exodia, the Legendary Defender. Thanks for 200,000 Subscribers!
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  • @Max.Wipson
    @Max.Wipson Год назад +1472

    Imagine going through all the trouble of summoning Exodia Necross, only to lose it by attacking into Man-Eater Bug or Night Assailant because it doesn't stop monster effects

    • @Skateking53
      @Skateking53 Год назад +195

      Literally had that happened to me by my sister when we were kids. Spent all duel going for necross for fun. Finally summon it and swing into her man eater bug and she just laughed...
      Traded some kid for Royal Command the next day.

    • @morningstar203
      @morningstar203 Год назад +21

      It... Happened to me 🥲

    • @samfivedot
      @samfivedot Год назад +78

      Your opponent could also just Monster Reborn one of the pieces and instantly blow it up

    • @BeaglzRok1
      @BeaglzRok1 Год назад +44

      Exodia Necross really needs a retrain like the anime, where it gets an effect based on each piece in the graveyard, except instead of destruction immunity it's immunity from that kind of effect (except its own in the case of monster effects). There's so much GY hate these days with the likes of Called By The Grave or the Ishizu cards that it still wouldn't be broken, even before Contract with Exodia gets negated by one of four boss monsters of choice.

    • @lmnisop5516
      @lmnisop5516 Год назад +30

      Exodia Necross? That's impossible. No one's ever been able to summon him

  • @SilverHyozanryu
    @SilverHyozanryu Год назад +1658

    I do appreciate Konami have tried a couple times to turn Exodia into an actual deck that can have some back and forth as opposed to a different flavor ftk or a bad stun deck.

    • @DM-Oz
      @DM-Oz Год назад +96

      I really wish they tried it a bit more doe, some of these are not even related to the exodia pieces.

    • @phorchybug3286
      @phorchybug3286 Год назад +69

      They should make an entire exodia archetype.

    • @nm2358
      @nm2358 Год назад +69

      @@phorchybug3286 retrains of each limb that make Exodia Necross his anime juggernaut or generically buffs Exodia bosses would be the only idea that comes to mind

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Год назад +31

      Yeah and all of them were just bad ideas to be sold with exodia name. I would rather have exodia support than garbages retrains

    • @DM-Oz
      @DM-Oz Год назад +4

      @@theclosecall4095 i like the exodia incarnatev

  • @XionSteel
    @XionSteel Год назад +647

    My favorite throwback to Necross is that my friend tried to play it at a locals, he didnt have cards like painful choice to get them to the grave but had the draw cards to get them to his hand and then cycle them with costs. problem is that he didnt want people to know what he was doing most of the time so he would amass them in his hand instead of dumping them early. This caused him to accidently win by getting all 5 pieces to his hand and so after 3 games of that happening in a row he decided to take out the Necross and just play standard janky exodia. Funny part is that he could never quite get the luck he did when Necross was in his deck and couldnt win after that. 🤣

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Год назад +163

      Sounds like a good problem to have. "I couldn't summon my cool monster because I kept accidentally winning instantly". Too bad that luck didn't persist.

    • @bakionigeri6414
      @bakionigeri6414 Год назад +40

      See.....lol when the universe blesses you... DONT MESS WITH IT 😂

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 Год назад +54

      well the way I see it Necross should be a backup for if someone manages to send your pieces to the grave, so your friend should've kept it just in case

    • @deathsaidhello
      @deathsaidhello Год назад +13

      @@keeganlafferty1395 plus the numbers in the deck made his winning probability better, so keeping the cards for the number was also the play lol

    • @invencible373875559
      @invencible373875559 Год назад +20

      task failed sucessfully

  • @Gknight11037
    @Gknight11037 Год назад +396

    As much as I love Master Saga and Roulette I'm really glad you keep making these. I know they take a lot of work, but I love them

    • @delaspnc0
      @delaspnc0 Год назад +8

      Yes! I love those videos but these type of videos are why I subscribed to Dzeef. Hope he keeps doing these more. I know the content is easier though for things like master saga and roulette.

    • @Gknight11037
      @Gknight11037 Год назад +3

      @@delaspnc0 I think a goof mix is fine. I love having the other 2 every week (and yugioh without reading if you see this Doug), but I'm just glad he hasn't dropped these

    • @itisgarrison
      @itisgarrison Год назад +1

      Same, these are still my favorite

    • @cwjdog57
      @cwjdog57 Год назад +1

      I think both Doug and Cimo are possibly slowly getting back to making mixes of competitive and casual-ish content and I'm so here for it

  • @koala5232
    @koala5232 Год назад +353

    I personally adore Exodia, the Legendary Defender because it is just so full of flavour. The card's artwork shows Exodia being released to fight Zorc (The final villain of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime and manga), and its effect says that if it manages to defeat Zorc (a DARK Fiend), you win the duel. I know it isn't a very good card, but in terms of the story the card tells, it is a very cool one.

    • @CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
      @CodaBlairLucarioEmperor Год назад +16

      In the manga, was it Exodia that defeated Zorc and not Holactie? Or am I misremembering stuff

    • @darkknight1710
      @darkknight1710 Год назад +4

      Exodia restaim zorc the time that atem join yugi and summon hora

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 Год назад +47

      @@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor Nah, Exodia was defeated by Zorc. However, it managed to hold its own better than any other spirit, wiping out most of Zorc's army and managing to hold him at a stalemate for a while. Ultimately, it's noted that Exodia, though close in strength to Zorc, only had Siamun Muran's soul to power it, which was nowhere near the massive reserves of energy Zorc could call upon.

    • @CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
      @CodaBlairLucarioEmperor Год назад +7

      @@misterbadguy7325 Okay. That makes a lot of sense

    • @dashret410
      @dashret410 Год назад +27

      Like you said I think because of Simeon was old , Exodia lost because he depends in part of the power of his summoner, Simeon was already old and weak, maybe if the Pharaon itself summoned Exodia, he could have soloed Zorc with no problem

  • @Tkempwait
    @Tkempwait Год назад +143

    I absolutely love exxod I remember as a kid my grandpa bought me that structure deck and now that he’s no longer with us I will never be able to see that card or any of the sphinx cards without thinking of him and being grateful for my time with him

    • @arqelf9505
      @arqelf9505 Год назад +2

      Awesome memories! :)

    • @vallum12100
      @vallum12100 Год назад +2

      This is straight up what the backstory of a character using Exodia-themed deck in the anime would have.
      (( I have the same thing with my grandma with the Jinzo tin, so I get it))

    • @CrackDCat
      @CrackDCat 11 месяцев назад

      Run a sword and shield or 2 so you can still use it :3

    • @GP.Records
      @GP.Records 8 месяцев назад +2

      I started collecting Exodia pieces and assembling them at my grandfathers house, then collected all 5 shortly before he passed. I know exactly how you feel. Best part of all is that Yugi inherited Exodia from Grandpa Mutoh

    • @Tkempwait
      @Tkempwait 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@CrackDCat unfortunatly i no longer have the cards. I was going into middle school dropping 50lbs over the summer and went "nobody will think im cool if i play yugioh" 12 years later im like damn idc what they think i like what i like

  • @minabasejderha5972
    @minabasejderha5972 Год назад +621

    I'm sad you didn't mention True Exodia, which would have been the perfect way to end the video. "No one plays True Exodia because it literally loses you the game."

    • @clutchedbyanangel
      @clutchedbyanangel Год назад +91

      One day, True Exodia FTK will be real.

    • @donesparce6915
      @donesparce6915 Год назад +57

      It's unfortunately also not released in the TCG yet

    • @truegamerking
      @truegamerking Год назад +32

      @@clutchedbyanangel I have a replay of it. It's very fragile but functional. Long story short treasure Panda and Shien's spy

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Год назад +26

      Ocgs have a few funny decks that ftk ur opp by giving them true exodia instead

    • @neonoah3353
      @neonoah3353 Год назад +13

      You can try and give it to your opponent, problem is getting only the other 4 pieces in the field somehow.

  • @chefschmixer
    @chefschmixer Год назад +623

    We only need a "Commenters don't Understand" and we complete the Dzeeff Cycle

    • @ironblaster_8838
      @ironblaster_8838 Год назад +35

      Commenters don’t understand master saga

    • @demonbaned
      @demonbaned Год назад +4

      What about pack opening?

    • @someguyonyoutube4147
      @someguyonyoutube4147 Год назад +2

      I’ll be the sacrifice lads.

    • @jamv6572
      @jamv6572 Год назад +6

      Gonna comment some dumb shit so there’s content for it

    • @CordyMcDonald
      @CordyMcDonald Год назад +4

      @@jamv6572 The Duel Logs retrain…

  • @MrChillaxin2010
    @MrChillaxin2010 Год назад +178

    I agree with Joseph in that the Exodia pieces could go back to 3 and nothing would come of it. You might cheese a win here or there, but all you are doing is tripling the amount of garnets in your deck.

    • @yongestation_
      @yongestation_ Год назад +70

      yeah, though i think they're limited more for flavor than gameplay

    • @deadlineuniverse3189
      @deadlineuniverse3189 Год назад +19

      I would argue increasing the ratios of the pieces might be viable depending on the build.
      Like 3 heads in foolish dark factory style decks.

    • @dracoblizzard7944
      @dracoblizzard7944 Год назад +5

      @@deadlineuniverse3189 Well, the point is more that while you could find use if they're unlimited, it makes such a small difference and the deck is still like the 15th best FTK you could be playing. Vaylantz/Superheavy Samurai FTK can both be done from 1/2 card starters, and they don't see any play (well, SS cards haven't come out yet) so I don't think there's reason to be concerned. Although, there's an argument that all FTKs should just be taken out of the game, in which case we should ban the head of Exodia, Cannon Soldier, Cyber Stein, Blaze Phoenix, and etc

    • @MrChillaxin2010
      @MrChillaxin2010 Год назад +8

      @@yongestation_ Fun fact, if you don't count Qliphoth Scout, the Exodia limbs are the only normal monster to be on the F/L List.

    • @michel0dy
      @michel0dy Год назад +34

      The brick potential is imense
      You open with three rights arms and two left legs, GG

  • @sssdrake
    @sssdrake Год назад +46

    Exodia necross should've been a ritual. It acts exactly like one, and could benefit from ritual searchers.

  • @elderliddle2733
    @elderliddle2733 Год назад +139

    I noticed a prominent theme with Exodia. He’s a necromancer.
    Here’s how I believe his story went:
    Exodia was originally a powerful man known as Exodd. Exodd was trusted by Atem and became his chief bodyguard. However, he began to dabble in necromancy. He found a way to serve his master forever by making his soul immortal. The more his soul was offered, the stronger he became. But, Pharaoh Atem began to fear Exodia as some of his other sorcerers had turned on him. The pharaoh promised Exodia his freedom only when Zorc returned. Wanting only to serve, Exodia agreed to be imprisoned. Atem and his sorcerers cut Exodia’s soul into 5 pieces and sealed them away. On their own, the soul pieces are weak. But together with proper spells and monsters, Exodia could be called forth to defend the Pharaoh. Sometimes his body was released and bits of his soul returned to him. Sometimes he was revived as a zombie by making a contract to summon his reanimated corpse. But ultimately Exodia was released in his full power and finally got to fight Zorc again, but he dies defending his master. But I imagine in another timeline, he was victorious.

    • @tompossessed1729
      @tompossessed1729 Год назад +25

      Technically exodia lost due to yu gi grandpa being old not exactly at full power

    • @gequetscht1031
      @gequetscht1031 Год назад +11

      Fun fact: In the german translation, Exodia is female

    • @roncerjani9063
      @roncerjani9063 Год назад +6

      @@gequetscht1031 In german, a "girl" is also gender neutral.

    • @yannickoepcke1568
      @yannickoepcke1568 Год назад +5

      @@roncerjani9063 No, it's not

    • @roncerjani9063
      @roncerjani9063 Год назад +8

      @@yannickoepcke1568 Das Mädchen, das is for neutral names

  • @MBTYuGiOh
    @MBTYuGiOh Год назад +19

    Finally, some good content.

    • @Lkymn
      @Lkymn Год назад +1

      I can't believe MBT still somehow won in this episode.

  • @OutOfCharacters
    @OutOfCharacters Год назад +21

    Really didn't expect World Chalice to be the best representation of Exodius! As someone who came back to Yu-Gi-Oh playing that deck, it felt super good to summon 6 shineballs in a turn off of Venus + Exodius, the boards you could put up were much better when you drew him.

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum Год назад +35

    Legendary Exodia Incarnate is BY FAR my favorite version of Exodia. If I'm ever building with Exodia, it's that version. The art is so cool, and it's genuinely pretty reliable compared to a lot of the older ones. I like that it gives you two routes to victory; either a giant beatdown or by assembling Exodia. A deck that's focused on one or the other will surely be more effective, but it's nice to have the option of multiple plans for victory. And it feels the most like a "proper" Yu-Gi-Oh deck, as opposed to Solitaire Speed Exodia or Full Lockdown Draw One Card Per Turn Exodia. If Incarnate has 100 fans, I'm one of them, if it has ten fans I'm one of them, if it has one fan it's me, if it has no fans I'm dead. Exodia Incarnate is just fucking cool.
    Every single other version of Exodia is fucking dogshit.

    • @nathanielbass771
      @nathanielbass771 Год назад

      you'll probably love to know then that it actually ISN'T immune to all effects, only effects which happen directly to it (at least according to Duel Links). I came up with a hilarious strategy that uses an equip card to make it indestructible during the battle phase or end of it when "destroyed". The equip card activates and exodia remains on the field. It's not a very good strategy, but it made several opponents in Duel Links laugh with me XD the problem with the strategy is that tidbit I mentioned about it not being affected directly. You can either destroy its support card or do things like targeting your OPPONENT instead of the card itself. Example: "your opponent chooses one monster card. That card immediately does battle in attack position with a monster of your choice" or "your opponent destroys one monster card on their side of the field" etc

    • @DM-Oz
      @DM-Oz Год назад

      Agreed. I wish we got more Exodia Incarnate support doe

    • @mojus2890
      @mojus2890 Год назад

      I see that you've never heard of true exodia.

    • @Jr_North
      @Jr_North 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@mojus2890 A man of culture. Truly the best Exodia strategy.

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad 3 месяца назад

      Gonna build the new one this week on edopro?

  • @catisticallyspeaking
    @catisticallyspeaking Год назад +17

    For what it's worth, Exodius also sees a fair amount of play in Combo Frogs in modern Edison format

  • @D-Havoc
    @D-Havoc Год назад +43

    Exodia the Ultimate Defender is what happens when you poorly adapt a moment from the manga.

  • @simonlarimore1770
    @simonlarimore1770 Год назад +5

    Love the new background music, and I’m glad to see the discussions again!

  • @Billy_Wyatt
    @Billy_Wyatt Год назад +3

    Gratz for hitting the 200K mark Dzeef and I'd love to see more of this type of content. Going through archetypes or retrains that never worked or saw competitive play.

  • @tds4625
    @tds4625 Год назад +6

    Ah, the ol' classic series. Your Egyptian God episode of this was the one that re-ignited my interest in this series back a few years ago after having been an anime only fan in my childhood just casually collecting cards, and kept me watching all the way to Master Duel's release where I found out how much I can enjoy myself with the "actual" game. Thank you for pulling me into this community.

  • @SplashCity46
    @SplashCity46 Год назад +51

    I miss the card discussion videos. Glad to see they are making a comeback!

  • @KyanbuXM
    @KyanbuXM Год назад +11

    The tribute 5 monsters thing appears to be optional. You can tribute summon it with just two monsters and still gain it's effects. Makes a better but not by much.

  • @Abunai_Gaming
    @Abunai_Gaming Год назад +7

    Exodius is the key point of one of my personal favorite jank decks I've made. Exodius combined with Diffusion Wave-Motion is an OTK. Main strategy revovles around Ojama Trio to get three hits to get him to 3k, and beat over anything else the opponent might have on their field. Working on finding other ways to fill the field effectively, Black Garden with Sky Strikers was the plan but apparently the ? ATK freeze rule makes it hard to do since I'd need to get rid of BG before summoning Exodius

    • @AlphaSquadZero
      @AlphaSquadZero Год назад

      Dustons are a better engine to accomplish this.

  • @Xfighter22
    @Xfighter22 Год назад +1

    Love the return of these videos and love the new editing style. Great work Doug your discussions are super insightful and thought provoking! Here's to the next 100k subs in 2023 🍾

  • @PalkiaDialgaGiratina
    @PalkiaDialgaGiratina Год назад +1

    Love these kinds of videos, super informational and easy to understand. Dzeeff has a knack for this.

  • @xiongray
    @xiongray Год назад +5

    I've used Exodius in my stall deck which eventually had an Exodia side Win Condition, combined with Final Countdown and Self Destruct Button. Needless to say, it was eventually banned and limited into oblivion.

  • @DennisRash
    @DennisRash Год назад

    Glad to hear your channel is going well, I think I subbed around a year and a half ago or something either way keep on that grind! Happy holidays.

  • @egharabagi
    @egharabagi Год назад

    Crazy how good these videos have gotten. Congrats on the 200k brother you deserve it

  • @clintmontgomery5108
    @clintmontgomery5108 Год назад +1

    Dezef there is a strategic play that synergizes with the spellcaster theme of the exodus, that will make incarnate impervious to attack as well. And that is with the claw of Hermes spellcaster fusion monster- the mallet one. It has a the effect to banish the attacking monster for the number of turns shown by the dice roll. And since incontinence affect doesn’t prohibit being equipped with cards, it gains the effect of the fusion monster. Then you just need to make sure it can’t be KaiJu-ed away and it’s a slow and painful what to get your exodia. I use a similar strategy in duel likes and have a 98% win rate with that deck.

  • @jonathang9671
    @jonathang9671 Год назад +1

    I used Exodius the forbidden lord as a tech grab for my gladiator beast deck to come back in when Bestiari and Laquari, were both in the grave or countered, he also served as a great target for a quick xyz paired with metal reflector slime, dropping Skypalace Gangarida or Gustav Max, fun card with some niche uses.

  • @davervmirxz160
    @davervmirxz160 Год назад +1

    6:33 I thought he was useless. Thanks for explaining his effects. Time to add this card to a deck.

  • @The16bithero
    @The16bithero Год назад +7

    I was really missing these type of videos, more edited, scripted and elegant, if you will
    I know they take longer to make, but they're definitely the reason that you're one of my favorite yugitubers

  • @lucasmaltha7166
    @lucasmaltha7166 Год назад +1

    Something that Exodius has been used for more recently is Pendulum Magician decks. By making 2 Timestar Magicians without using any spells/traps you can search out Exodius and Dimension Shifter. After which you summon Exodius, emptying your GY, after which you're free to activate Dimension Shifter, go into F0 and maybe some more link shenanigans with the Exodius and whatever you were able to spit out during that turn

  • @TheOuroborosLoop
    @TheOuroborosLoop Год назад

    Finally another discussion video. :) Thanks Doug. I enjoy the work your doing now, but this is that good good. That shit that got me in the beginning a few years ago. :)

  • @chipmunk3k
    @chipmunk3k Год назад

    Nice video ! My question is what about the other god cards do they have similar modernisations ?

  • @WhereNightingaleSing
    @WhereNightingaleSing Год назад +5

    I was actually planning on making adamancipator earth rock deck with Exodd, just cause I like shooting actually good decks in the foot. I do hope it can meme a few wins on MD

    • @aredjayc2858
      @aredjayc2858 Год назад

      Same, FYI exxod is searchable with Block Dragon so have fun

  • @fortnitesexman
    @fortnitesexman Год назад +1

    i imagine exodia necross being a fusion monster in your extra deck would help it out a ton
    "if all 5 pieces of exodia are in your graveyard, fusion summon this card"
    you don't need to draw/search it, and it's not a dead card in your hand
    you don't need to draw the spell either, and it ALSO wouldn't be a dead card in your hand
    tho the effect itself still really isn't that good, maybe if it allowed you to draw from your graveyard instead of deck when it's on the field?
    so if you get it out early it's like "draw 5 cards and you win" idk i feel like that's a cool idea that sticks with the whole graveyard zombie exodia thing

  • @omegastrike8812
    @omegastrike8812 Год назад +2

    Obliterate is also a good way of making exodus useful after it's on the field, since you can use it as on your main turn when exodus is on the field already, then you have 2000 from one turn, then becomes 3000 opponents turn, and then 4000 your turn. Pretty high just two cards, and you can stop set up for like 3 rounds

  • @GKuriboh
    @GKuriboh Год назад

    It was also used in Hieratics to make Gustav Max with REDMD and was part of an OTK in that deck.

  • @megamanpwn3dmario
    @megamanpwn3dmario Год назад +1

    its funny, despite Necross function basically just like a ritual monster, being a ritual would've actually been a benefit, since you could search it or Contract With Exodia with preprep.

  • @zuleanservant
    @zuleanservant Год назад +1

    I like exodius as a tech in casual decks. Back when artifact dagda + DPE was making its rounds I liked running a single copy of exodius for when the deck would run low on gas. I kept trying to use pot of avarice before exodius and just got ashed to frequently

  • @dudono1744
    @dudono1744 Год назад +1

    an exodia archetype could be interesting, each search would either be to help build a board or going towards your wincon

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Год назад

    Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @calex1290
    @calex1290 Год назад +4

    You can just tribute 2 monsters for a normal summon of exodia the legendary defender, it still gains the combined ATK/DEF but doesnt grant you the instant win effect

  • @Outlawtotheend
    @Outlawtotheend Год назад +1

    Had some fun with Incarnate and future fusion in DL. Once you get all the peaces in the grave you can get some back with dark factory. The your opponent will have a hard time removing incarnate from the field.

  • @Yoshi0fEarth
    @Yoshi0fEarth Год назад

    Please keep making these style of videos! As a casual yugioh player this stuff is super interesting.

  • @fluffyninja3467
    @fluffyninja3467 Год назад

    I've been around since the great boom of the Egyptian God video, and when I first started watching you, I was really pissed and offended, but fascinated by your reasoning, and continued to watch you until it really started to make sense. You've taught me so much about Yu Gi Oh for YEARS, I'm glad to see your channel hit 200,000 my man.

  • @cjvasquez5807
    @cjvasquez5807 Год назад

    I was using exodd with sphinx set and rock types(flip effects eg: mine golems) with yugioh GX type deck, it was awesome when things played out well

  • @drgnak5677
    @drgnak5677 Год назад +1

    Grats on 200k!

  • @huebmayer
    @huebmayer Год назад

    Really glad to have a discussion video again

  • @snakefh
    @snakefh Год назад +1

    If the effect of the legendary defender was "tribute a total of 5 monsters (even if you dont control them) on the field to special summon this card" it would be quite interesting,
    Like a ra sphere mode but quite massive cause you can use one of your own monsters and 4 opponent's or any combination to make them a total of 5, then you use Radian Kaiju on the other enemy monster and tada, you did a nice wombo combo cleaning the field and winning the duel. Still you had to search it in some way ot why not, release some support to search Exodia effect monsters, 4 out 5 pieces are normal monsters so a searcher for exodia effect monsters could be cool.
    Sadly the effect is not worth for how specific and costly is.

  • @kalzaar6300
    @kalzaar6300 Год назад

    I used incarnate as a deep draw stall deck that dumped all the cards into the grave. that either killed them with a 5000 beater who cant get touched other than combat, since I use obliterate or discard draw cards to keep the limbs in the grave. then if in a tight spot, i fit 2 dark factory spell cards to give me access to drawing all 5 cards out of my grave in one turn if needed.
    wouldn't work now with some of these wall breakers we have now, but it was fun. I kept it to help teach new players about how "OP" cards can easily be outed.

  • @poeskey
    @poeskey Год назад +1

    I might try running exodius in my dark world deck considering that you can wind up putting a ton of your monsters in your gy. I never even thought about using him, and I have 2 copies from when I built my Exodia deck.

  • @bakionigeri6414
    @bakionigeri6414 Год назад

    Love this series. Even though I'm the type of player that will still try and make exodia, and the god cards work, I enjoy these videos, and they help me brainstorm

  • @feIon
    @feIon 4 месяца назад +5

    no mention of the legendary "true exodia" ?!

  • @glitchtype
    @glitchtype Месяц назад

    I played a deck with Exodia Incarnate and Obliterate in it, it was lit. It had Secret Village, the Kinka-Piper combo, rank 10s and rank 1's, and even Last Strix and Skip Force. I loved that deck. I think Ruri's cards would be nice in it today.

  • @commiecomrade2644
    @commiecomrade2644 Год назад

    ITS BACK! I love this series. Its literally what got me interested in yugioh.

  • @ClovissenpaiDotR
    @ClovissenpaiDotR Год назад

    I love the oldschool style dzeeff vids!!! Perhaps my favourite yugitube content

  • @JakeTheJay
    @JakeTheJay Год назад

    Congrats on 200k man!

  • @superhypershadowx
    @superhypershadowx Год назад +1

    I agree with your assessment of Legendary Exodia Incarnate, though I would like to say it does have a lot of potential to be good if Konami ever prints additional Forbidden One support to let it do what it's going for. It is hard to maintain a reasonable attack when your entire archetype consists of 4 vanilla monsters and a single effect monster all limited to one after all.

  • @Yu13oh
    @Yu13oh 3 дня назад

    Incarnate can work well if you use Secret Village of The Spellcasters, Royal Decree, and now since it's legal Card Destruction plus if played correctly with Forbidden Lord assuming the right combo of cards are drawn. Swords of revealing and concealing light can help but only for a short time along with protection traps such as mirror force,magic cylinder, Wall of Revealing Light, ect

  • @theaverageDon
    @theaverageDon Год назад

    Been a while since I've caught a Dzeeff video, I like your knew mic 👍

  • @joaquinduverne6259
    @joaquinduverne6259 Год назад +4

    They definitely need to release more cards like "The Legendary Exodia Incarnate" and "Obliterate" to create some sort of Control Deck that builds up the Exodia wincon in a way that does not really fill your hand only with useless monsters. Maybe one more card (like a Field Spell?) that can add 1 piece each Turn, paired up with a Spell that searches exodia Monster/Spell/Trap support just like Ra does.

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 Год назад

      and ofc it should lock you into exodia to win

    • @kevinwilley4180
      @kevinwilley4180 Год назад

      @@dudono1744 I saw a custom card that was Final Countdown support, that had the drawback of " Your opponent can not lose life points" in return for playing Final Countdown from anywhere and increasing the turn count for every summon your opponent did last turn. The idea of some super Exodia support cards that is balanced around "once you play this, there is no falling back to generic beatdown tactics, you win thru Instant win conditions or you don't win at all." sound interesting.

  • @GracefulMage3089
    @GracefulMage3089 Год назад

    Nice to see a vid like this after so long. Also why no one uses exodia retrains cuz a lot of them want you to send exodia pieces away. When you would rather just get them to hand for a instant win

  • @patrickdonnelly6738
    @patrickdonnelly6738 Год назад

    I could see playing the last 1 in a Rockett/Borraload deck because even if your opponent gets rid of it you could just summon 5 more Rockett monsters at the end of your turn

  • @PiePie453
    @PiePie453 Год назад

    Love you Doug, never stop being you and so on and so forth

  • @Yslohr
    @Yslohr Год назад +3

    I'm glad you keep making these "why nobody plays videos" it takes me back... I've been following this channel for a long time, who knew this series all began with sparks... I do like roulette and saga as well but this is the original content I had subscribed for and I thought I would never get to see a new one so this truly means a lot to me. Thanks Doug.

  • @MagnusXL
    @MagnusXL Год назад +1

    I tried making Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord for its own merits in Master Duel (and not purely as a recycling machine). It was uh... not a great time since there's just so much that can go wrong while you're trying to resolve its alternate win condition. It also takes approximately 100 years.

  • @olliezoop
    @olliezoop Год назад +1

    Exodius (the one that shuffles back all your GY monsters) is actually pretty useful in decks that tend to run down on deck resources (like dark world and saryuja turbo shenanigans)

    • @poeskey
      @poeskey Год назад

      im going to be adding my 2 copies into my danger dark world deck. I had been racking my brain on how to reload my deck and I think this is perfect.

  • @TheBigExclusive
    @TheBigExclusive Год назад +4

    IMO, the biggest problem with Exodia Incarnate is that you need an exodia piece to Summon Incarnate to the field. This is no different than using "Contract with Exodia" in the sense you need yet another card to summon it.
    If someone is going through all the huge effort to send 5 pieces of exodia to the graveyard, then Exodia Incarnate should just be able to summon itself.
    Exodia Incarnate isn't viable until you have at least 3 pieces of Exodia in the graveyard. 3000 ATK is minimum needed to for a boss monster to survive. Plus Exodia weakens itself each turn by losing 1000 ATK and sending to exodia pieces from the graveyard to the hand.
    So players are already going though a lot of effort to summon and keep Exodia Incarnate alive. The least it can do it summon itself.
    Especially in 2016 where summoning 4000 ATK monsters isn't that hard.

  • @saulp.vazquez9500
    @saulp.vazquez9500 Год назад

    Missed this videos. Thanks, Dough

  • @Novoxis
    @Novoxis Год назад

    Tried playing around with a Silent Swordsman/Exodia Incarnate deck in Master Duel, the former covering the field for common spell effects while trying to make the big boy. My main gripe with Incarnate is that the effect that adds a card to your hand from the graveyard during the end phase is mandatory. Even if I get a 4000 Incarnate out once my turn ends it becomes 3000 which is enough for plenty of cards to run over it, without any guarantee that I can Obliterate the piece back into the GY.
    Still really fun to try and find ways around these flaws and build a deck regardless.

    • @Tora37790
      @Tora37790 Год назад

      Interestingly, you can use Witch of the Black Forest to search for Exodia Incarnate and her effect will prevent his end phase effect from activating for the turn, but you can still summon him. Backup Soldier also works well for quickly switching from the beat-down strategy to the instant win (1 piece in hand + 4 in GY = win). Too bad the deck loses to anything that can banish the pieces, and anything that can help with that makes the deck more bricky.

  • @kazekamiha
    @kazekamiha Год назад +1

    I always saw Necross as the back-up plan of an Exodia deck; if one or pieces couldn't be recovered you an option to win, even if it's not a great one.

  • @TheDude-vg8qk
    @TheDude-vg8qk Год назад

    It works you just have to believe what they want you to believe.
    Or face to face you can always organize your cards in certain positions and shuffle as you desire.

  • @tobyteng7522
    @tobyteng7522 Год назад

    Thank you . I love watching your videos.

  • @zodi9783
    @zodi9783 Год назад +2

    They really should make a retrain that does the same exact thing as the original 5 pieces but requires some wombo combo to summon and win so it's not uncounterable. Like have one card that if it's summoned, you search your deck and graveyard for other pieces essentially winning the game but make it so that card has strict summoning conditions and can only be pulled off in dedicated Exodia decks.

  • @loubob69
    @loubob69 Год назад +8

    we STAN exodia the legendary defender in this house

    • @BlueXDNova
      @BlueXDNova Год назад

      same. There is a way to pull off the win condition with using the fiend kaiju. Special summoning 5 monsters to tribute them isn't that hard either, with today's cards.

    • @druidt8949
      @druidt8949 Год назад +1

      @@BlueXDNova That doesn't work. Because the card specifies "owned" you can't use the Kaiju, as it's your card being controlled by the opponent

    • @cumputer8820
      @cumputer8820 Год назад +1

      You have to change an opponent's monster's type to Fiend with Reprodocus or DNA Surgery, big oof

    • @dorugoramon0518
      @dorugoramon0518 Год назад

      @@cumputer8820 Reprodocus isnt that hard to pull off if you are playing a deck that spams tribute fodder to get legendary defender out in the first place.

    • @cumputer8820
      @cumputer8820 Год назад

      You still need a monster owned by the opponent that is DARK and is at the same time in the right column. Plus, if the monster is neither DARK nor Fiend, Reprodocus is basically useless since it can only use its effect once per Turn

  • @Lkymn
    @Lkymn Год назад +1

    Thanks for shouting out my boy, Exodia Incarnate. People just skip over the "Unaffected by other cards' effects" and waste cards on trying to remove it.
    Also, Obliterate!!! is just an insane card. I love it. If a card has not one, not two, but three exclamation points in it, you know it's a good card.

  • @0Heeroyuy01
    @0Heeroyuy01 Год назад

    if defender had the "unaffected by other card effects" ability i think requiring 5 tributes would be fine.
    b/c you could use trap monsters or something like tricky if your opponent went first and flooded the field.
    etc etc there are a bunch of token creating cars that summon tokens with 1000atk that you could use and tributing 5 of them would give it 5K atk

  • @siristhesalamander4186
    @siristhesalamander4186 Год назад

    Personally I have been trying to come up with different ways to incorporate Exodia into a competent deck for several years now as it is the only 'archetype' that I really enjoy in Yu-Gi-Oh!. Alternate win conditions are what I live for, and so far the only decent success I've seen with a deck that holds my 5 favorite appendages is either an add-on to an endymion control deck that can occasionally pull an ftk or in link-chaining spellcasters into predaplant anaconda to fusion summon quintet magician. Constant work in progress, but it's hilarious to see how many ways opponents fail to remove Incarnate or deal with Obliterate! properly, so it's currently worth it.

  • @hyperion1644
    @hyperion1644 Год назад

    we love you douglas zeef, never stop making content

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 Год назад +9

    Card discussions AND Why Nobody Plays? We really back in 2018.
    Time for some Structure Deck reviews after this.

  • @beauvsb5230
    @beauvsb5230 Год назад

    Exodia Necross on a Gravekeeper deck is my main deck back in the days, like Exodia necross is the final boss in that deck, it doesn't always get pulled out but if I do, it's gonna be epic.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Год назад +1

    I ran an Exxodia deck (a modified Exxod starter deck including Exodia) in at least one of the video games because a defensive deck like that is actually pretty good for stalling for exodia in non-competitive play lol.

  • @FuriousEntiti
    @FuriousEntiti Год назад +1

    11:08 I use this card frequently in my deck and the moment I get it on the field I win. In EVERY instance that I’ve had the chance to summon exodia the legendary defender I won I personally think it’s the best exodia retrain. But hey, it’s just my opinion I can’t do much about what other people say. All I can do is say what I believe.

  • @voiletreapercoyjr.8285
    @voiletreapercoyjr.8285 Год назад

    Great vid Dzeef for one of yugiohs most iconic cards you'd think they'd have made more support.

  • @giftedfox4748
    @giftedfox4748 Год назад

    When I was young I did get the Exxod, Master of the Guard deck because it sounded interesting. It didn't hold up very well and lacks the whole "forcing your opponent to attack" and the surprise factor of face-downs non-existent. It was a fun deck, but real slow and really easy for your opponent to play around it.

  • @reneschmidt1902
    @reneschmidt1902 Год назад

    I still remember building Exodia Decks with Backup soldier just dumping exodia Pieces and use backup soldier to nearly instant add them into my hand and win :D

  • @yuishishido8780
    @yuishishido8780 Год назад

    I remember having Necross when I was little. Sadly, not only did I not have the ritual card but I didn’t have any Exodia cards either.

  • @JetZV
    @JetZV Год назад

    Having played World Chalice, I remember seeing Exodius in that deck and thinking it was absolutely bizarre.

  • @jeremyranger4260
    @jeremyranger4260 Год назад

    what exodia would need is a good "exodia" lvl 4 ritual monster you can use "advanced ritual art" with. It only needs it's effects to tie in with the rest of the support and be able to search cards that mentions "exodia".

  • @GlennYarwood
    @GlennYarwood Год назад

    I’d love a new Exxod, that guy was cool. Can attack in defence position using its defence and flip effects can’t be responded to. And a couple hot shit sphinx retrains to back it up

  • @TheBigExclusive
    @TheBigExclusive Год назад +10

    -Huge amount of work to summon Exodia Necross.
    -Dies to man-eater bug.

  • @Damini368
    @Damini368 Год назад

    What I’d love to see would be a ritual Exodia retrain, with a archetype ritual spell that’s something like “you can ritual summon one “forbidden one” ritual monster from your hand or deck by sending monsters from your hand or “forbidden one” monsters from your deck, whose levels equal or exceed the level of the ritual monster”

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Год назад +1

    And then Solomon Muto shows up in Duel Links with Exodia Incarnate as a reward and voice lines for all the retrains, even Exxod. (also True Exodia's win condition for some reason, even though it's impossible in Duel Links)
    "Left arm of the forbidden one attack! ...I guess... "

  • @lennyface8195
    @lennyface8195 Год назад

    Felt like making some custom support.
    Name: "Legacy of Exodia"
    Type: Quick Play Spell Card
    Effect: Send 1 "Forbidden One" monster or "Exodia" card from your Deck to the GY, except "Legacy of Exodia", then if you have 5 "Forbidden One" monsters with different names in your GY, you can apply this effect.
    Special Summon 1 "Exodia Necross" from your hand or Deck. (This is treated as a Special Summon by the effect of "Contract with Exodia".)
    You can only activate 1 "Legacy of Exodia" per turn.

  • @SulliP1776
    @SulliP1776 Год назад

    Would moon mirror shield work on exod incarnate?

  • @WillRennar
    @WillRennar Год назад

    Gonna be interesting to see how the retrain of the Invincible Fortress Structure Deck comes about in a few years.

  • @dustinwickert8831
    @dustinwickert8831 Год назад

    A Radian Kaiju - Legendary Defender OTK combo would be fun as a secondary option if the deck was built to be consistent enough without it.

  • @kainhighwind2
    @kainhighwind2 10 месяцев назад

    Are any of the retrains okay for casual play in Master Duel?

  • @sorasong9708
    @sorasong9708 Год назад +2

    Exxod used to be in my deck starting out and now I use Exodia the Legendary Defender, but I'm never using Exodia Necros or The Forbidden one though I do have them and I lack any other instant win cards.