For setting a princess, a method I was taught was to first use a small drill bit to open up the space for the tip, then open it up further with the ball bur, and lastly, use a 90-degree hart bur to get a shape that is more similar to the stone. Works well for me, but I hear a lot of guys stick with just the ball bur. Hope this comment finds you, and finds you well, at that.
I did use the 90 degrees heart bur to get it to seat better. I'll try a drill bit next time to see how that works. Why do you think they taught you to drill the hole for the tip first? I did see someone do it this way but I just thought it would be easier cutting the hole on a flat spot compared to just the round prong.
Earns my sub. They're some lovely coloured saphs and that's a nice ring. 👍 Nice job mate. Thanks for the video. I first encountered your channel the other week when I was looking for reviews of one of those vacuum casting machines. This video makes me so nervous. Ever slipped with a cup-burr and nailed the end of a finger with it? It makes a saw-blade cut seem like a pleasant experience! A few thoughts you may or may not find useful: 0) Get/use a ring-clamp when setting the ring. Makes it easier to hold still when cutting the seats and claws. Also makes slips a total non-issue. I'd happily pay the cost of a clamp anytime I'd hurt myself to make the injury go away. I bought one in-store the other day - it was only about 15 aussie bucks. You could easily make one from a bit of broom-stick, some brass tube and a few bits of leather. 1) That bench-peg seems less than ideal for the kind of work you're doing here. Looks like a good one to use when piercing sheet, but seems like it'd be a pain for most everything else. I also saw it bending at one point, which seems a shame for something nicer than a piece of fence-paling. A short piece of decking hardwood timber cut to a taper with a circular-saw and drilled to accommodate your clamp would cost about $5 and take 10 mins to make, if a commercially produced one isn't as cheap or easy to put hands on. 2) I also bought an el-cheapo Vevor flex-shaft from flea-bay recently. Same deal as yours - the *chunky* 6.5mm jacob's chuck version in gold anodized Al, also a (presumably) knock-off DG 3/32" quick-release T30 collet handpiece. It sounds like we got the same motor - mine was about $92 Aud and the listing said 700 ish watts. I bought it because I'm lazy. I've got a 20+ year old genuine DG motor and handpiece tucked away in storage - with a handpiece which needs adjusting to grip the burs again. I think I paid about $1000 back then for the pair, as opposed to about $115 the other month. I don't remember the genuine stuff being any better in terms on concentricity or vibration - perhaps you got a crappy flexible shaft inner - perhaps your motor isn't in the best position either - both affect performance. 3) I saw Dimond Mounter (Chris Bilton) make an interesting observation the other day about micro-motors in an old video. Without the mass of the motor armature and the shaft, you do get a bit less torque (the GD motor *is* better than the Vevor in this regard) - however you do get more vibration. The micromotor, he said, made it easy to work with the sort of increased precision which he finds very helpful for setting. 4) Lastly, a quick touch with a rubber wheel removes those marks on the claws from the cup-burr. Quick question - what's the music you've got in the background?
Thank you! I try not to let myself get scared of slipping and hurting myself but I'll try to be more careful. I had no idea those could cause so much pain. I try to ignore the fact that everything around me could give me some bad boo-boo's. I have not hurt myself yet luckily. 0) I have a nice ring clamp but I feel as if it gets in the way. I think I just need to get used to it. I have a cheap ball vice that I was thinking about using with some thermo lock to hold down the pieces a little better. 1) The bench peg does need to be mounted better but I just have not got around to doing it yet. It is a cheap one I got and I am surprised that it has lasted this long. I might invest in some better equipment to hold the pieces in like a month or so. I'm trying to learn as fast as possible while only spending money where it's needed most. I will fix the bench peg before my next piece because it flexing does hinder my trust in it when working. 2) I will be getting a foredom sr in the next couple weeks because I feel like it will help a lot with my ability to make precise cuts. I thought about getting a micro motor but a nice one is pretty expensive compared to a decent flex shaft. I never feel like the flex shaft gets in my way either so the thick line to the motor hasn't bothered me yet. 3) I think I had seen that same video by him talking about micro motors. He is so good at what he does! I love his videos! I might get one someday just to try it out but I personally enjoy the large amount of torque the flex shaft has. 4) A few people have pointed out different ways that I could have cleaned things up. I have some of those rubber wheels but haven't used them much. I'm taking notes on everything everyone has pointed out. I'll try out those wheels next time to see how well they take out all the marks and things I miss. I definitely need to clean things up much better with the next one. I will be making a bunch of eternity rings and going through each one I make to assess what I did right and wrong to try to improve on everything. The music was just a background music that I downloaded from youtube to try and make my videos less boring and easier to watch. I really appreciate the feedback and will definitely be making some changes. Thank you!!
I will be using that bench for my gem setting coming up soon! I've been trying to focus on getting very good results with my casts so I start creating the art I dream of!
You did great!
For setting a princess, a method I was taught was to first use a small drill bit to open up the space for the tip, then open it up further with the ball bur, and lastly, use a 90-degree hart bur to get a shape that is more similar to the stone. Works well for me, but I hear a lot of guys stick with just the ball bur. Hope this comment finds you, and finds you well, at that.
I did use the 90 degrees heart bur to get it to seat better. I'll try a drill bit next time to see how that works. Why do you think they taught you to drill the hole for the tip first? I did see someone do it this way but I just thought it would be easier cutting the hole on a flat spot compared to just the round prong.
Earns my sub.
They're some lovely coloured saphs and that's a nice ring. 👍 Nice job mate. Thanks for the video.
I first encountered your channel the other week when I was looking for reviews of one of those vacuum casting machines.
This video makes me so nervous. Ever slipped with a cup-burr and nailed the end of a finger with it? It makes a saw-blade cut seem like a pleasant experience!
A few thoughts you may or may not find useful:
0) Get/use a ring-clamp when setting the ring. Makes it easier to hold still when cutting the seats and claws. Also makes slips a total non-issue. I'd happily pay the cost of a clamp anytime I'd hurt myself to make the injury go away. I bought one in-store the other day - it was only about 15 aussie bucks. You could easily make one from a bit of broom-stick, some brass tube and a few bits of leather.
1) That bench-peg seems less than ideal for the kind of work you're doing here. Looks like a good one to use when piercing sheet, but seems like it'd be a pain for most everything else. I also saw it bending at one point, which seems a shame for something nicer than a piece of fence-paling. A short piece of decking hardwood timber cut to a taper with a circular-saw and drilled to accommodate your clamp would cost about $5 and take 10 mins to make, if a commercially produced one isn't as cheap or easy to put hands on.
2) I also bought an el-cheapo Vevor flex-shaft from flea-bay recently. Same deal as yours - the *chunky* 6.5mm jacob's chuck version in gold anodized Al, also a (presumably) knock-off DG 3/32" quick-release T30 collet handpiece. It sounds like we got the same motor - mine was about $92 Aud and the listing said 700 ish watts. I bought it because I'm lazy. I've got a 20+ year old genuine DG motor and handpiece tucked away in storage - with a handpiece which needs adjusting to grip the burs again. I think I paid about $1000 back then for the pair, as opposed to about $115 the other month. I don't remember the genuine stuff being any better in terms on concentricity or vibration - perhaps you got a crappy flexible shaft inner - perhaps your motor isn't in the best position either - both affect performance.
3) I saw Dimond Mounter (Chris Bilton) make an interesting observation the other day about micro-motors in an old video. Without the mass of the motor armature and the shaft, you do get a bit less torque (the GD motor *is* better than the Vevor in this regard) - however you do get more vibration. The micromotor, he said, made it easy to work with the sort of increased precision which he finds very helpful for setting.
4) Lastly, a quick touch with a rubber wheel removes those marks on the claws from the cup-burr.
Quick question - what's the music you've got in the background?
Thank you!
I try not to let myself get scared of slipping and hurting myself but I'll try to be more careful. I had no idea those could cause so much pain. I try to ignore the fact that everything around me could give me some bad boo-boo's. I have not hurt myself yet luckily.
0) I have a nice ring clamp but I feel as if it gets in the way. I think I just need to get used to it. I have a cheap ball vice that I was thinking about using with some thermo lock to hold down the pieces a little better.
1) The bench peg does need to be mounted better but I just have not got around to doing it yet. It is a cheap one I got and I am surprised that it has lasted this long. I might invest in some better equipment to hold the pieces in like a month or so. I'm trying to learn as fast as possible while only spending money where it's needed most. I will fix the bench peg before my next piece because it flexing does hinder my trust in it when working.
2) I will be getting a foredom sr in the next couple weeks because I feel like it will help a lot with my ability to make precise cuts. I thought about getting a micro motor but a nice one is pretty expensive compared to a decent flex shaft. I never feel like the flex shaft gets in my way either so the thick line to the motor hasn't bothered me yet.
3) I think I had seen that same video by him talking about micro motors. He is so good at what he does! I love his videos! I might get one someday just to try it out but I personally enjoy the large amount of torque the flex shaft has.
4) A few people have pointed out different ways that I could have cleaned things up. I have some of those rubber wheels but haven't used them much. I'm taking notes on everything everyone has pointed out. I'll try out those wheels next time to see how well they take out all the marks and things I miss. I definitely need to clean things up much better with the next one. I will be making a bunch of eternity rings and going through each one I make to assess what I did right and wrong to try to improve on everything.
The music was just a background music that I downloaded from youtube to try and make my videos less boring and easier to watch.
I really appreciate the feedback and will definitely be making some changes. Thank you!!
Did you stop using your PMC bench?
I will be using that bench for my gem setting coming up soon! I've been trying to focus on getting very good results with my casts so I start creating the art I dream of!