The card system in Vault Hunters explained

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @Arteryy
    @Arteryy 4 месяца назад +47

    loving the card system actually one of my favourite features recently

  • @ninjaduck8804
    @ninjaduck8804 4 месяца назад +11

    This deck system actually looks awesome, would love to see you guys continue to develop and tweak them

  • @eponabast5231
    @eponabast5231 4 месяца назад +5

    I'm so glad for the tutorial! I didn't realize that I needed to equip it - I thought keeping in my inventory was ok.

  • @Buttaho1
    @Buttaho1 4 месяца назад +9

    I really miss your old videos where you went over each patch. I understand if they were too much work, but I hope you can bring them back in the future.
    I had to stop watching some of these videos because they jump around a bit too much for my brain and it feels like information is skipped. Like you will be talking about something, like building towards something and then it just gets cut off. Could be because it didn't happen on the stream or something, but there isn't even a reason given to why so it just feels bad.
    Love you iskall. Love VH too. I took some time off to play the new POE league, but I'm excited to get back into update 15 with my friends. I think we are going to start a new world.

  • @scorpioftw
    @scorpioftw 4 месяца назад +74

    My only gripe is the upgrade system. The amount of cards needed to upgrade makes sense for streamers, but its way to much for any normal player. I will probably edit the config and reduce it to half of it probably

    • @RedLameDog
      @RedLameDog 4 месяца назад +4

      Ye I guess for mini bonuses that they bring a smaller amount of scaling for the tiers could be a better balance. Like tier 2 = 10, tier 3 = 30, tier 4 = 50, tier 5 = 60 cards. 🤷‍♂️ but the tier system I think doubles the bonuses so the upgrades probably need to reflect that in some way.

    • @MegaSamson13
      @MegaSamson13 4 месяца назад +12

      The goal is probably not to upgrade all cards in your deck but just your strongest permanent bonuses that do not have a durability or require skillpoints are extremely valuable!

    • @mikeostroff6297
      @mikeostroff6297 4 месяца назад

      The most booster packs that you can get are from a blacked out or a totally completed bingo objective

    • @tehpyono2203
      @tehpyono2203 4 месяца назад +4

      Agreed. A full level 4 treasure deck will take at least 1000 scav clears to achieve. You likely wouldn't have a deck of level 4s with arcane cards/wild etc... but if you consider level 5 which takes 320 cards iirc, it's frankly an unrealistic amount. I really hope he reevaluate the numbers. Unless he has plan to greatly increase essence count through decks smelting or etc...

    • @jakotens
      @jakotens 4 месяца назад +4

      It’s only unrealistic right now because you can only get card packs from completion crates and the black market. I think once they add more places to get card packs it won’t feel quite as bad. They could easily be added in places like treasure sand, vendoors, bounties, etc.

  • @isobarkley
    @isobarkley 4 месяца назад +2

    i am so happy with the change from relic booster packs to actual card packs!!!

  • @hojdoj3567
    @hojdoj3567 4 месяца назад +7

    Some ideas.
    Omega deck: inventory is a full inventory 9×4
    The world deck: several groups of slots in different areas.
    Chunky deck: 16×16 slots

    • @JaegerDreadful
      @JaegerDreadful 4 месяца назад +2

      Everyone would use the chunky deck and nothing else lol, that's way too OP

    • @hojdoj3567
      @hojdoj3567 4 месяца назад

      @@JaegerDreadful i was also thinking of appliying some 3d verticality to these large decks in the form of slots with height stats making cards only being able to interact with each other on the same height.
      On a later level, there could be an unlock for cards that can now interect with multiple elevations.

  • @theravyneffect3610
    @theravyneffect3610 4 месяца назад

    Was playing up to update 13, and came back at 15, discovered cards and now I am ABSOLUTELY HOOKED on the cards.

  • @justsomeperson4022
    @justsomeperson4022 4 месяца назад +4

    I think it would be cool if you could turn a deck into the card juice

  • @benhall7574
    @benhall7574 4 месяца назад

    I started a new game in part just to get to play with the card system. :)
    Keep up the great work Iskall & team!!

  • @drpepper7018
    @drpepper7018 4 месяца назад +2

    Idea for a deck:
    The Cursed Deck
    It could be shaped like a skull maybe, and although it would have a LOT of open spots and maybe a lot of those “upgrade slots” you were talking about, it could be like “for every card placed in this deck, -0.5% item rarity,” or something like that
    Basically what you said about how decks would have modifiers, but that some of them could be bad in exchanges for having lots of open slots

  • @jotasietesiete4397
    @jotasietesiete4397 4 месяца назад +12

    Please don't add card booster packs to regular loot. Right as they are now, they are a great incentive for completing a vault, and not just focusing on looting.
    If you were to add them to other places, keep it separate from the vault loop itself, like in vendoors or treasure rooms.

  • @ItsMeHeyy-d8s
    @ItsMeHeyy-d8s 4 месяца назад

    WE NEED SINGLE PLAYER VAULT HUNTERS BACK ISKALLLL!!!!!

  • @Werewolf914
    @Werewolf914 4 месяца назад +4

    So this is the update to get Tango into the game?

  • @fishgaming4863
    @fishgaming4863 4 месяца назад +8

    I would love a game mode which is driven by the cards like from the start you find them upgrade them.
    wild Idea (not very thought through): Maybe it even defines the gear and perks you enter the vault with.
    although this would make looting less important and would making finishing the vault way more important.
    do with this idea what you want I think it could be fun
    (It would still need to be thought out more but I trust you with that since you are already doing such a good job with vaulthunters)

  • @DutchGuitarGuyHD
    @DutchGuitarGuyHD 4 месяца назад +5

    My deck keeps emptying and my cards disappearing :(

  • @samuellillge9319
    @samuellillge9319 4 месяца назад +1

    YOOOOO I love Decked Out /j

  • @ace-wv3oi
    @ace-wv3oi 4 месяца назад +1

    What do you when you cards suddenly disappear from your deck?

  • @batt3ryac1d
    @batt3ryac1d 4 месяца назад +1

    With all these new items is there a way to fix refined storage and stuff lagging like crazy with too many things stored in one chunk? Or was that bug already fixed and I'm outta touch 😅

  • @jamoz42
    @jamoz42 4 месяца назад +1

    Very cool mechanic, bit devastating that it seems to randomly delete the entire deck 😅 I'm sure it'll be resolved in the next update, but I don't want to risk it again!

  • @aiyowei187
    @aiyowei187 4 месяца назад

    Evil deck that is very large but nullifies half the slots, at random

  • @p11_studios
    @p11_studios 4 месяца назад

    I love this style of video, this season has been my intro into the mod pack and I only watch your video clips so I have no idea what’s going on most of the time… but I still love it

  • @RedLameDog
    @RedLameDog 4 месяца назад

    I was so excited to get my first card 🥳

  • @Haplo-san
    @Haplo-san 4 месяца назад +1

    I was started couple days ago, excited to discover new systems since the vault potions update. On my second day, I went out to discover a village since I needed couple emeralds for the Vault Enhancement Table quest; I have checked like many thousands of blocks around my base, apart from a really big ocean that felt like endless, I couldn't find any village; biomes were way too large and those new biomes doesn't seem to spawn a village. I lost my excitement stucking on the enchancement quest.
    Now after seeing this video, I wanted to play again. But I think I am gonna start over, hoping to find a better seed. I remember having this kind of problem before. So I wondered, is there a problem with the world generation? Are biomes way too big? Doesn't it spawn any villages in new modded biomes? I don't remember if Nature's Compass locate villages too but if not, is there a way to locate one? Emerald is a real problem.

    • @gamenmetgewoonmike9781
      @gamenmetgewoonmike9781 4 месяца назад +1

      I had the same problem so i just allowed myself to use /locate for finding a village and it was never further away then 2500 blocks

  • @Steamscreativejournal
    @Steamscreativejournal 4 месяца назад

    I think it would be cool to get feedback for when cards requirements aren't being met or canceled due to doing it incorrectly, as in a red highlight around them if something is off.

  • @rj-dc1bk
    @rj-dc1bk 4 месяца назад +2

    why are decks not in jei? could you add them?

    • @Ramzi65ok
      @Ramzi65ok 4 месяца назад +1

      Because there is only 1 deck. Every other deck is just an extra peice of data added to the original instead of increasing the size of the mod by adding more items. Same goes for cards

    • @rj-dc1bk
      @rj-dc1bk 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Ramzi65ok I know they are the same item with different nbt, but you can still add them to jei, for example trinkets are in jei too

  • @olseagoat
    @olseagoat 4 месяца назад

    The card system will mesh well with the existing mechanics at play, and even help fix the severe pacing bottleneck hell that is the mid-game.

  • @DarrknesssS
    @DarrknesssS 4 месяца назад

    Idea for Deck: Legendary Deck of Lost Hero Steve.
    Effect:
    Each card in this deck has it's effects doubled. and make it really hard to get, or maybe after completing final vault

  • @bunta3434
    @bunta3434 4 месяца назад

    Cards and desks should be in vendoors as well

  • @Somethinorother.
    @Somethinorother. 2 месяца назад

    The decks are literally scrabble in minecraft

  • @ImAdonai
    @ImAdonai 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you hot swap decks inside the vault? Due to the crates completion thing I guess probably not, but could be interesting (or completely broken, either/or).

    • @JillRandazzo
      @JillRandazzo 4 месяца назад

      I was going to ask this question as well.

    • @JillRandazzo
      @JillRandazzo 4 месяца назад

      Create a dungeon deck or looting deck for omega rooms.

    • @xd_joe
      @xd_joe 4 месяца назад +2

      u cant change once in

  • @jackcoughlan2584
    @jackcoughlan2584 4 месяца назад +9

    So basically advanced decked out 2

    • @specopspoptarts7525
      @specopspoptarts7525 4 месяца назад

      How is this at all like Decked Out?

    • @jackcoughlan2584
      @jackcoughlan2584 4 месяца назад +1

      @@specopspoptarts7525 there are cards that that add ability like run speed and your in a dungeon looting for treasure

  • @CleanupinAisle6
    @CleanupinAisle6 4 месяца назад

    "BRRBT" 🤣🤣

  • @mrmegusta5652
    @mrmegusta5652 4 месяца назад

    when you gona release the love tunnel with joel?

    • @dancinpenguin3975
      @dancinpenguin3975 4 месяца назад

      he will do it when he feels like it tbh. there's no better answer.

  • @silversoul9309
    @silversoul9309 4 месяца назад

    Is there a link to a vault run with the resource deck?

    • @dancinpenguin3975
      @dancinpenguin3975 4 месяца назад

      im not sure on youtube (in playlist) but on twitch the latest stream currently which is called "OMG REALLY" which is 5:15:56 long. at 2:59:40 he talks about it and at 3:07:19 he goes into the vault.

    • @silversoul9309
      @silversoul9309 4 месяца назад

      @@dancinpenguin3975 thank you

  • @marcusswingle8627
    @marcusswingle8627 4 месяца назад +1

    I can’t wait for Etho to completely hack and exploit every single aspect of this!! 😂

  • @WinterAndMore
    @WinterAndMore 4 месяца назад

    Okay so i was confused on my last comment sorry. This is good i like. Only suggestion is let the player know how they got a deck because i have 3 different ones and no idea how i got them lol

  • @toastasteron
    @toastasteron 4 месяца назад

    Can you change your deck inside the vault? For example, start with a stat deck and when you're about to go out change to a resource deck?

    • @xd_joe
      @xd_joe 4 месяца назад +1

      nah its like trinkets

  • @arizonabuckeye
    @arizonabuckeye 4 месяца назад +2

    I love what you are doing with VH iskall! I am a little concerned that you are getting into “feature creep” where instead of improving existing mechanics you are adding. It can end up with the game being clunky and unapproachable for new players. The cards for example - fun mechanic but could you have done the same thing by tweaking the gear upgrade mechanics? Or could you have a single upgrade system for gear and the cards?

  • @DbIMCHIK
    @DbIMCHIK 4 месяца назад

    When will the update come out?

    • @Magi10101
      @Magi10101 4 месяца назад

      It is out, but you need to be level 50

  • @MiltiadesSpyrou
    @MiltiadesSpyrou 4 месяца назад

    When do you get the resources from the resource generating cards, do they appear on the pickup menu when you fulfil the criteria?

    • @Run2Seeun
      @Run2Seeun 4 месяца назад +2

      He said that they will be in the completion crate

    • @ashwinrohith8551
      @ashwinrohith8551 4 месяца назад

      Yes, when you hover over it, it will tell you the criteria before you confirm your selection

  • @duck9874
    @duck9874 4 месяца назад

    🦆

  • @kroznick1011
    @kroznick1011 4 месяца назад

    bumbo deckoni

  • @denisdailyiis20
    @denisdailyiis20 4 месяца назад

    first