I've been really enjoying turn 2 fish in my jeska ishai deck. Being able to drop a rock and cast fish off that let's you keep it around much longer while still having mana on board to hold up interaction and keep building your board up.
This is the best commentary you two have done on your video, incredibly personable and enthusiastic and it's also great to see the reasoning behind your plays. Well done gentlemen. I'm so happy your channel keeps growing and you guys get to do something you love together regardless of how taxing editing can be. Thank you.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Cam would’ve been able to go infinite in hame one with barrin and dockside, since he milled gilded drake and could’ve stolen kinnan, which should double the treasure mana. It would’ve taken a bit more and he got the combo anyways but that would’ve been one of the other ways to do it!
Thoughts on Tyler targeting Cam with the stroke of genius so Cam could possibly draw into a counterspell and have enough mana to pay for it? There's a world where you can call it king making, but I think it's a valid play cause Dylan had the win on the stack
I understand why someone might feel like it is king making, but more cards in a player’s hand means more chances for counterspell. That would make it the optimal play for Tyler to have a chance to win.
PtW has been some of the most fun mix of entertainment and competitive play that I've seen in a while on a magic channel. Keep up the awesome work guys!
Hands down my favourite commander channel, Regular edh or cedh, It's always fire when you guys upload, Keep up the good work guys, Happy to see more gitrog yew yew 😎
@@argoz91 dose that let you play commander? I'm a yugioh player and so I don't really want to get into what yugioh already gives me,. but commander is something yugioh doesn't have and it looks like so much fun
@@PlaytoWinMTG Funny enough you guys just appeared in my recommended, and I watched and was like wow I haven't really seen cEDH before, only less powerful edh it looks like so much fun, and just kept watching and fell in love with how much fun you guys seem to have while playing!
I've just got done watching ever gameplay video ya'll have uploaded on youtube. Took some small breaks here and there but mostly for sleep, It took me 4 days.
@@PlaytoWinMTG Oh lovely you guys are great! and make great content. I've played magic for 20 years but just started cEDH cause it's the only format my borther plays these days. I wanted to learn the format and the decks so I asked him for some RUclipss to watch and y'all ended up being my favorite.
Love your videos boys specially because my cEDH community is small. So going to my main top... I was Wondering If you mulligan until you get a fast start like mox diamond, Chrome mox, Rhystic study, etc? With Kinnan or Thrasios/Tymna
Not knowing Tylers hand, im working with missing information, but im really surprised spinning kInnan wasnt the play (instead of cycling the land and that stroke for 1.) Seeing 5 cards, with Drake, Phimage/Meta (with Horizon land its 8 mana, so Spellseeker Pact is live) and even Runic Armausaur being outs.
Woot! Another great series of battles! You know what may be a cool video? How about this, now just hear me out, a "best enchantress deck in cEDH," video? Seems like it'd be real fun 😉
Fish on turn 2 tends to be better vs good players than it is turn 1 against good players. Plus you're able to keep the fish around longer usually the later you play it
In game 1 I think Cam made the breach line way harder on himself. Rather than gambling on brain freeze he could have just cast intuition and got every piece he needed
So we talked about this a lot and ultimately came to the conclusion that he couldn’t. At 6 cards in yard (counting intuition) and 4 treasures he would have run out of cards. After the Int cast he’d be down to 1 treasure and 3 cards. Someone gives him freeze to hand. Gotta cast led for mana exiling 3. And then you have freeze in hand intuition in yard led in play. So if you crack for the mana you gotta discard freeze and then dont have enough cards to recast. If he casts intuition after he has 6 treasures and 4 cards in yard he’s left with random card in hand, led, freeze and intuition in the yard which doesn’t give him enough to cast anything else At least this is the conclusion we came to. Happy to be proven wrong
Someone help me out here. When Cam casts Jeska with infinite mana at the end of game 1, what actually ends up doing all the damage to end the game? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
@@NateNasty1993 that is awesome! Thanks for getting back to me, it's beautifully done I couldn't figure out what mtg cards it referenced 😆. Can't wait to see you on more games, love the channel.
Wooooooooooooooo I'm xrrunkkkkk againnnnnnnnn hahahajajajJjajaja. Sonttmind me guussss him just drunk afffffdddd but i camae here to just comkkentngor talegorithym purposeessss you onid idk ehat imtdoing but iliie i do appreciate your conentn as snitnsnakazing and you giuyysssss are andvamazing bucnh, I'm drink but i do onow tahhat cyour channel is awesomd and i do lie an enjoy rhythe content you're producing rnc keep it uppppp Loving ittttttttttt, jajajjajajjaa P.s. donttmind me I'm just drink afffffffffff, thNks dylan for helping me out sith my listan i man i do appreciate you taking your time to do so!!!! Beat cedh. Hannel channel ever!!!
I respect the production quality. I’m just not a huge fan of these staple-y type of decks. Which is kinda cedh in a nutshell. Cool cards for sure ! Just overused
10:50 why did Cameron didn’t countered all spells with that flusterstorm? Neither players had mana to pay for them, Oophe and Drannith Magistrate would have been the only stax piece on board
i love the vids but i HATE stax! you guys should try some lists with no/fewer stax pieces so we can see the decks do their thing! just to mix it up! keep up the great vids!
Love the channel and everything you guys do but to be totally honest, the lack of interaction and the general speed of the games made this weeks episode kinda boring.
Check out the Deck Tech on JESKA/ISHAI JESKAI over on Instagram - instagram.com/tv/CS4T-sQHZzA/?
Was that a Matt Colville reference with the "doodlydoo" comment at the end?
I've been really enjoying turn 2 fish in my jeska ishai deck. Being able to drop a rock and cast fish off that let's you keep it around much longer while still having mana on board to hold up interaction and keep building your board up.
I think for Cedh PTW has the best production quality, fun interactive games, with reasonable entertaining players.
Agree
2:07 literally the first time I've seen ANYONE pay for fish. Wow
kinnan just makes so much mana, why not
@@PlaytoWinMTG I believe mana is not the reason, if he actually have 1 more mana than that, he wont pay and activate kinnan instead 😂
@@briantjokroadiguno4566 as a kinnan player i fully agree ^^
Cameron: "I can't go infinite!"
Also Cameron: can just brainfeeze everyone to death without needing to go infinite
im 6 months late but i believe you cant brainfreeze gitrog because of shuffle titans
@@cryptidzilla1742 you are correct. the frog plays ulamog and kozilek
This is the best commentary you two have done on your video, incredibly personable and enthusiastic and it's also great to see the reasoning behind your plays. Well done gentlemen. I'm so happy your channel keeps growing and you guys get to do something you love together regardless of how taxing editing can be. Thank you.
"I could have casted village bell ringer a turn earlier but I didn't want to sound any alarms"
Awful terrible I hate it
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Cam would’ve been able to go infinite in hame one with barrin and dockside, since he milled gilded drake and could’ve stolen kinnan, which should double the treasure mana. It would’ve taken a bit more and he got the combo anyways but that would’ve been one of the other ways to do it!
Thoughts on Tyler targeting Cam with the stroke of genius so Cam could possibly draw into a counterspell and have enough mana to pay for it? There's a world where you can call it king making, but I think it's a valid play cause Dylan had the win on the stack
I understand why someone might feel like it is king making, but more cards in a player’s hand means more chances for counterspell. That would make it the optimal play for Tyler to have a chance to win.
@@AlsoNamedChad yea turning a 0% chance to win into a 0.000001% chance to win (better odds here but as an example) is the right play 100% of the time
It’s not kingmaking at all and if someone thinks that they have no idea how to play cedh or the concept of it
Ooh I can see your logic. But I do suppose, when it comes to interacting, or choosing not to interact, interacting is always the must option.
I'm in love with Cam's Jeskai/Ishai deck!
PtW has been some of the most fun mix of entertainment and competitive play that I've seen in a while on a magic channel. Keep up the awesome work guys!
Slick win on that second game! 👀
It's just too easy ;)
I love your guys' content. I have unfortunately watched all of it now and now have to wait for more lol 😅
"I should feed the fish, thats how this goes right?" Tyler's banter always cracks me upppp!
no one going to point out the joke at the end "I could have casted village bell-ringer a turn earlier but I didn't want to sounds any ALARMS"
Hands down my favourite commander channel, Regular edh or cedh, It's always fire when you guys upload, Keep up the good work guys, Happy to see more gitrog yew yew 😎
Just came across you guys and I got to say, you guys put on a great show. I don't play cEDH but I do enjoy watching it. Keep up the good work!
Such a great mix of decks! Jeska/Ishai is my new favorite! Can't wait to brew with these commanders, gonna watch the deck tech now!!
Idk why i keep loving these vids, i have 0 idea whats going on since I don't play magic, but I love watching
Please! Try to play download magic arena
@@argoz91 dose that let you play commander? I'm a yugioh player and so I don't really want to get into what yugioh already gives me,. but commander is something yugioh doesn't have and it looks like so much fun
HahHa that’s awesome, how did you find us?
@@PlaytoWinMTG Funny enough you guys just appeared in my recommended, and I watched and was like wow I haven't really seen cEDH before, only less powerful edh it looks like so much fun, and just kept watching and fell in love with how much fun you guys seem to have while playing!
I follow your Channel for a while, first comment out here
I love your content guys, cheers from France ! ;)
Really love the commentary on this one. Great work boys!
Just ordered some sleeves! Pumped to sleeve my yawgmoth deck in em!
I've just got done watching ever gameplay video ya'll have uploaded on youtube. Took some small breaks here and there but mostly for sleep, It took me 4 days.
That’s Incredible. How did you enjoy the experience?
@@PlaytoWinMTG Oh lovely you guys are great! and make great content. I've played magic for 20 years but just started cEDH cause it's the only format my borther plays these days. I wanted to learn the format and the decks so I asked him for some RUclipss to watch and y'all ended up being my favorite.
@@PlaytoWinMTG Keep up the good work and great content. Hope to see some more Blue Farm/Turbo Nauseam maybe Codie in the future!
Love your games Play To Win! Not to mention your entertaining commentary! lol Well done!
My favorite card just carried the game I'm game one, go Mystic Remora!
It seems like a pretty good one
The best Begin to date
Those games were great! Is there a direct link to the deck tech Cam referred to at the end?
Yes! Just pinned the comment here
Love your videos boys specially because my cEDH community is small. So going to my main top...
I was Wondering If you mulligan until you get a fast start like mox diamond, Chrome mox, Rhystic study, etc? With Kinnan or Thrasios/Tymna
end credit music is pretty sick. Did y'all make it yourself?
Can’t wait for my sleeves! Any idea on when they would get to Maine?
Probably less than a week
Diddly-did you put the deck tech in the doodly-doo?
What face camera setup does Cam run? It looks fantastic!
Not knowing Tylers hand, im working with missing information, but im really surprised spinning kInnan wasnt the play (instead of cycling the land and that stroke for 1.)
Seeing 5 cards, with Drake, Phimage/Meta (with Horizon land its 8 mana, so Spellseeker Pact is live) and even Runic Armausaur being outs.
Well one of these lines doesnt work, Spellseeker is a human and Kinnan only grabs nonhumans
@@bradenskaggs5350 thats why the line i said is Phimage and Metamorph. And spellseeker is in play already
@@Egovinco98 oh my bad
Tyler’s 4 Card hand was fucking gas. Holy moly.
10:02 u guys r so weird and funny, i cant even believe it how much i love u
Are the Duals Cameron is playing (e.g. the Tundra at 0:52) altered cards, is he using alter sleeves or how did he get them to look like this?
Hey! I'm one of the $20 Patrons, and I was wondering who you guys have make your shirts/hoodies?
Bonfire!
“In the doodilly doo” -Dylan, a pro youtuber 😂
Literally the best part of the video..."The doodilly doo" OMG ROFL!
It might be more casual but what about best planeswalker decks?
Game 2 turn 2: Damn, this is gonna be a long game.
Turn 4: OH, its over.
How much do we have to pay cam to use Jeska ishai again
love the play to win sol ring
Can't believe the kikijiki resolved without incident. Haha
I really like the fact that even though Tyler went first on game two, he really kind of went third. I'm sure he really enjoyed that.
So, Cam could drake Kinnen, that would make his treasures tap for 2. ..
Right?
I mean he got there but that would be double mana
Woot! Another great series of battles! You know what may be a cool video? How about this, now just hear me out, a "best enchantress deck in cEDH," video? Seems like it'd be real fun 😉
Run Sire in my casual Rakdos deck. Nothing better than hearing everyone groan when Sire hits the board and basically gives up.
What is Nate's playmat? I like the art
That is my fiancé and I with our two snakes she had it commissioned and made for my birthday
@@NateNasty1993 that’s super cool!
Did anyone else notice that tylers kinnan is an alter and is a reference to princess Mononoke, its Ashitaka and his red elk
Are the sleeves matte or brushed sleeves?
Was that a customer tundra and if so how can I get oneee
I also hate to cast intuition and would go for Spellseeker instead?!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks turn two fish might be better than turn one.
I really want to play Jeska Ishai now
6:58 Background music is epic
could i get a songname ?
Man, Seven hours to late to get sleeves. Hahaha. Let us know when you get more. Great games guys! Always great entertainment from your play group!
"Testing the waters" with fish. Ba-dum-ch.
Nate sounds like he is playing from space. He is major tom.
Fish on turn 2 tends to be better vs good players than it is turn 1 against good players.
Plus you're able to keep the fish around longer usually the later you play it
Is underworld breach the new paradox engine?
Fkn highlight of my day💯
Cams got me wanting to build a jeskai deck
It's so cool seeing my tag in the patrons at the end (':
YESSS
I'll never understand the fun of playing any game inwhich someone can win before the snacks even hit the table.
snappy games!
In game 1 I think Cam made the breach line way harder on himself. Rather than gambling on brain freeze he could have just cast intuition and got every piece he needed
So we talked about this a lot and ultimately came to the conclusion that he couldn’t. At 6 cards in yard (counting intuition) and 4 treasures he would have run out of cards. After the Int cast he’d be down to 1 treasure and 3 cards. Someone gives him freeze to hand. Gotta cast led for mana exiling 3. And then you have freeze in hand intuition in yard led in play. So if you crack for the mana you gotta discard freeze and then dont have enough cards to recast. If he casts intuition after he has 6 treasures and 4 cards in yard he’s left with random card in hand, led, freeze and intuition in the yard which doesn’t give him enough to cast anything else
At least this is the conclusion we came to. Happy to be proven wrong
1:58 prob a bit late to the party but why looks Kinnan like the kid out of Princess Mononoke?
Someone help me out here. When Cam casts Jeska with infinite mana at the end of game 1, what actually ends up doing all the damage to end the game? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
Jeska! She can hit any target with her minus ability
I’m loving the Ishai deck, but I go more murderbirb than tempo
Is doodly-doo a shout-out to Matt Collville? I wouldn't think so since you guys probably don't follow D&D channels. But, he's super fun and talented.
keep it up! thank for the videos!
I really want to see a "Best Tymna Deck in cEDH" video
What’s the song at 8:30?
You didn't want to set off any alarms with your Village Bellringer? #FlavorFail
What is the art on Nate's playmat?
That is my fiancé and I with our two snakes she had it commissioned and made for my birthday
@@NateNasty1993 that is awesome! Thanks for getting back to me, it's beautifully done I couldn't figure out what mtg cards it referenced 😆. Can't wait to see you on more games, love the channel.
How do you win with Kinnan ?
Infinite mana combos, I think. (Basalt monolith, etc)
We love to see Dylan wins
cam is still my favorite because jashi forever :D. my only cedh deck and my friends hate them
Personally, I never attack with Dauthi Voidwalker. Losing his ability to grab an instant that just hit the grave is too much risk for just 3 damage.
Wooooooooooooooo
I'm xrrunkkkkk againnnnnnnnn hahahajajajJjajaja.
Sonttmind me guussss him just drunk afffffdddd but i camae here to just comkkentngor talegorithym purposeessss you onid idk ehat imtdoing but iliie i do appreciate your conentn as snitnsnakazing and you giuyysssss are andvamazing bucnh, I'm drink but i do onow tahhat cyour channel is awesomd and i do lie an enjoy rhythe content you're producing rnc keep it uppppp
Loving ittttttttttt, jajajjajajjaa
P.s. donttmind me I'm just drink afffffffffff, thNks dylan for helping me out sith my listan i man i do appreciate you taking your time to do so!!!!
Beat cedh. Hannel channel ever!!!
Ironic...he didn’t want Village Bell-Ringer to sound any alarms
Entomb countered by flusterstorm turn 0, nice
10:00 yea underworld breach is a strong card 😂
Begin!!!!!!
I respect the production quality. I’m just not a huge fan of these staple-y type of decks. Which is kinda cedh in a nutshell. Cool cards for sure ! Just overused
B E G I N
I just want to say that every time you call Jeska/Ishai anything other than Jeskai Jeskai I hear nails on a chalkboard.
Sleeves are sold out 😭
JUSTICE FOR GOLOS
Nobody payed life for tarnished citadel
And the sleeves are gone
10:50 why did Cameron didn’t countered all spells with that flusterstorm? Neither players had mana to pay for them, Oophe and Drannith Magistrate would have been the only stax piece on board
Flusterstorm only hits instants and sorceries
@@CamToWin totally missed that, thanks
“Reading the card…”
F*k man sleeves sold out in 2 days yo
5th!!!!
i love the vids but i HATE stax! you guys should try some lists with no/fewer stax pieces so we can see the decks do their thing! just to mix it up! keep up the great vids!
12 hours. Sold out of sleeves. Making more when?
Why the gitrog player sound like he’s playing over a prison pay phone?
Love the channel and everything you guys do but to be totally honest, the lack of interaction and the general speed of the games made this weeks episode kinda boring.