Audemars Piguet’s Other Collections: Jules Audemars, Millenary & Edward Piguet
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2018
- With the immense popularity of the Royal Oak and Royal Oak Offshore, the other collections by Audemars Piguet are largely ignored. This video takes a look at some of the Cinderellas in the AP manufactory.
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Thanks Bill, your approval and thoughts means a lot, luckily my wife is visiting London so she can pick it up, few things I learnt that I can share with you, no VAT on preowned watches bought in UK so some deals can be had, also some dealers are apparently very cagey or outright refuse to mail watches with rare animal straps ie alligator, has to do with customs especially from Germany.
Hi Eddie, it sounds great, and you seem to have landed a very good deal. Send a picture when you get it! Thanks, Bill
What a great collection of Ap watches. The one that tickled my fancy was the 'dual time'. Once again thank you for your tireless input and knowledge :)
Hey Kenneth, my pleasure! The best part is that some of these watches are actually affordable ... sort of. Cheers, Bill
Good day, Bill! Its nice to see the Jules Audemars, the Edward Piguet and other alternatives to the Royal Oak from AP. This being said, the Royal Oak is a watch I never understood why was so popular until I watched it live. It is really an amazing watch. Regards.
Hi Enrique, on its own, the Royal Oak deserves all the praise it gets. However, it has so overshadowed every other watch in the AP collection that compared to JLC, Vacheron Constantin, and Patek Philippe, AP looks a bit like a one-trick pony. A similar thing has happened to Zenith; with so much focus on the El Primero movement and watches, the very affordable and quite substantial Elite series has been all but ignored. Cheers, Bill
Absolutely, Bill. It has become their gold mine!
Thanks so much I’m pondering a 16015ST Millenary as I am writing this!
You can find some great buys on the Millenary APs! Unique shape and very interesting, Angel. Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
Thanks again, Bill. Fascinating. Some of those 150 series Millinery are very much my sort of watch but they all have solid casebacks. I'm hoping you can contradict me on that.
Hi Jeremy, I was looking at some of those AP Millinery watches myself and ran into the same problem; solid case-backs. I wish I could contradict you on that, but not yet! (That fact might bring the price down even more!) Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci I wonder how easy it is to change the casebacks on a watch if the same brand uses the same case size. I presume there's potential problems with clearance as the display back could be thicker? I suppose a look through the AP spare parts catalogue could be enlightening in lots of ways. I'll have to see if someone's archived a copy online.
Hi Jeremy, let me talk to a friend who's got ties with Audemars Piguet and see if I can find the person to contact there to see if exhibition backs are available for Millinery models. If they're not ... use that fact as a negotiation tool. Cheers, Bill
Great Review about the Magnificent Dress watches : Jules Audemars . They used to be the Soul of Audemars Piguet before introduction of Royal oak in 1972 .
Yes, they Jules was the Calatrava-Patrimony of AP! Kindest regards, Bill
Love my Millenary, unique oval shape.
Hi Rick, which one do you have. Love that watch! Cheers Bill
WatchArtSci 4101
That's so uniquely Millenary, you can see in a second that it's a Audemars Piguet! Kindest regards, Bill
Hi Bill,
thanks for mentioning the Jules Audermars :)
The Royal Oak is such a dominant watch that it overshadows all other watches within the brand.
It is like the Lamborghini Countach or Porsche 911 in cars. All successors within the brand have to mess with these icons even if they are technical better.
I think the RO and ROO are boon and bane of Audemars. They have to rely on it for ever. Patek has a broader product portfolio with the Calatrava, and the Complications. PP doesn't need rely on the Nautilus/Aquanaut alone. So PP in my opinion is not at mercy on one watch as AP.
What do you think Bill?
cheers Andi
Hi Van Dyke, I know what you mean. Having one 'star' makes the company vulnerable to the situation where that star-power fades. Patek has several as does Vacheron Constantin and Jaeger-Lecoultre. They are in a safer place. Kindest regards, Bill
Thanks Bill, catching up on your great postings, saw a flurry of watches recently, would greatly appreciate your comments on JEAGER LECOULTRE REVERSO GRANDE TAILLE DAY D
SKU: 270.8.36, initially I was not sure of the size and the circular calendar on a rectangular watch, but after trying it on a few times I began to appreciate the geometry of the watch and also love the practically of the watch with the day of week window.
Hi Eddie, I'm sort of a fan of JLC Reversos, including the Grande Talle Day Date. Kindest regards, Bill
I have always liked the millenial but haven't had the chance to try one. Like the old model, is affordable and easy to read the time. Cheers Bill
Hi Akula, yes, the Millenary is very unique and some quite affordable. In the newer ones, he calibre 4101 was reversed to enable the dial side to display components that are usually hidden. That's unique and interesting! Cheers, Bill
Thanks Bill, I was also looking at the AP Edward piguet collection, similar shape and size, three handed with date function but no calendar, close to the same price but in white gold, black wavy guilloche dial Arabic numerals, between the 2 based on movements etc what would u go for?
Oooh Eddie..that's a tough choice. An AP EP or JLC Reverso Grande... The EP would make a great dress watch, while the Reverso would be more flexible. What do you need most? Cheers, Bill
Very correct Bill, the model is the discontinued 270.8.36, my offer of 4600 dollars was accepted, I saw a cheaper one from Russia 4200 but was all scratched up on photos, it comes with papers and box, no manual, I saw the watch twice in London and wore it, the shop etc looked legit, a tiny scratch on the back, otherwise very clean, I am told JLC stainless steel scratches very easy, the strap was a original JLC slightly used, going through the chrono 24 system now. I hope the date and calender function ok, otherwise I am screwed since JLC service is expensive!!
It looks like you got a great watch and great deal! That's a very interesting watch! Congratulations! Cheers, Bill
@7:19 Bill, do overlapping dials ever reach the point of fussy confusion? I love imaginative design, but I also wonder if gimmickry is desperation to be different to make sales. What do you think? Confusing dials that make it difficult to just tell time might be a worthy topic
Hi Forbin, in my opinion, they do it all the time. In an upcoming video there is a discussion of a different kind of dial arrangement, but that's not about confusion. What you're talking about is very important: information design vs. graphic design. Not only are dials and sub-dial arrangements important; so too are color schemes, graphics, and everything else under the sun. To some extent, men's watches are men's only jewelry, and often designers forget that they're actually for telling time. Great topic.
Design-wise at home, I plan to try printing these dials and sub diuals and arranging in a 42mm circle. Could be a fun exercise...Here's a gorgeous FP Journe *resonance* movement:
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Thanks, that was interesting: Here's the video I did on the FPJ Resonance Watch: ruclips.net/video/Wp0FHxiuIWk/видео.html Cheers, Bill
I had not seen your earlier vid on FPJ so Thx! watching now...
Thanks Bill, I re watched your show on entry level on high horology regarding AP and the Edward Piguets, great review, one final question and I will let u rest in piece, what is the premium u will be willing to pay for precious metals? a JLC reverso that I am looking at is 5K in stainless steel would u pay another extra 2.5K to get the gold option? My heart says gold but head says stainless steel?
I've seen 10k gaps and more between ss and gold; so 2.5k doesn't sound bad. What color gold?
Dear Sir. If you are wearing an FP Journe, you clearly do not need to worry too much about price. Splendid watch though. I just have to make do with my 'bargain basement' AP/JP Dual Time. Nice video, forgive my humour, English sarcasm.
Would you be interested in making a micro-brand watch?
KK, I'm interested in making a watch, but I'm not interested in making one for business. Cheers,
Bill
Would be yellow gold around 4.7 for SS and 7.5 yellow gold
Well 7.5-4.7 = 2.8. ... is the difference worth $2800 (or quid or euro). If you got ss, would you think, "For just 2.8 more, I could be wearing gold! Or would you think "SS would have been just as good if you got gold?"
You're supposed to do the wrist watch check at the beginning of the show not at the end!
D'oah! Now you tell me Marcus!
overseas!?offshore sir!
Hi Ratka, not sure your reference. Was the Vacheron Constantin Overseas mistakenly substituted for 'Offshore?' Thanks, Bill
WatchArtSci royal oak,royal oak overseas:)
So it should have been Royal Oak Offshore? I thought that was what was said; if not, the RO Offshore is indeed correct.
WatchArtSci great video by the way!