The cars from the 80's are the most impressive out of any of these. Those cars were not very aerodynamic and could still hit 200+ mph. That says a lot about the horsepower those engines were putting out.
Just imagine what the gen 4 car or COT could’ve done if they didn’t have restrictor plates at Daytona/Talladega. I think 240 going into turn 1 would be possible. Absolutely nuts.
@@RussellAutosport cot car was never gonna succeed. reason they scrapped it. was cars were turning into airplanes and helicopters. and if you go back to listening radio and interviews. none of the drivers liked the car. most of em called them coffin cars.
@@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 The COT is still used today. The “gen 6” car is the same car with a different body over the chassis. The reason cars were taking off with the COT was the rear wing initially put onto it. Once they put a spoiler back on, that problem was fixed.
Ford Thunderbird was very aerodynamic. Those boxy GM cars weren't. They were so bad they had to whine to NASCAR to get the sloped back glass to be able to compete with the Thunderbird. Too bad I have never seen one like that on the road but you can still see Thunderbirds like that!
You never fully appreciate something until it’s gone. I think that’s what we did with the 750 and 900 HP. those things would scream off into turn 1 and down the backstretch. We’ll never get those races again thanks to the tapered spacer and the terrible HP package.
I so want the high HP back. Went to the race at TX this last weekend and while it was fun it’s just not the same. The cars while loud, sound bogged down where they used to just scream
Dale Jr got severely concussed in 2012 at Kansas going 190 when he blew a right front tire. At a certain point, the speeds become too dangerous. They need to go back to the limit and just not cross that.
It's so funny that you posted this because I literally have been watching a replay of the 2014 Pure Michigan 400 for the sake of seeing fast cars again. The minimum speed in the corners used to be faster than they hit on the straights now at Michigan. Insane speed and I love it
2:58 I forgot how much rear steer the cars had in 2012. NASCAR will never be the edge of the limit sport it once was. I’m glad I got to see the peak decade of the sport growing up.
@@easyenetwork2023 oh ok. My brothers good buddy used to watch it a lot in the late 90’s early 2000’s I remember. I’ve never really watched. Seems like the older fans aren’t happy with the product anymore. Just like everything else it going to crap I guess?🤣
Side force was a cool gimmick and made the cars fun to watch just in terms of pure speed but it absolutely ruins the air. Clean air became king and you'd never catch someone in first once they were clear. I know because it feels like half of the races I watched when I was a young teenager ended with one guy getting out in front with 30 to go and having a 17+ second gap to second place by the checkered flag.
@Ryley Zayet I know it's easy to hate NASCAR when you don't watch it, but they are going easily 200+mph at Daytona and Talladega. Catch the draft right and they go 210mph.
Ambrose's 203 MPH lap at Michigan isn't even the track record. Two years later in August 2014, Jeff Gordon won the pole with a lap at over 206 MPH! Currently today, the three fastest tracks are Talladega, Daytona, and Michigan. Just behind those three, Tony Stewart qualified at just over 200 MPH at Texas, and in one round of qualifying Kurt Busch turned a lap at over 200 MPH at Charlotte. If it weren't for the 550 HP package, God knows what the pole speed at Atlanta would be next year on the new pavement. I think Geoffrey Bodine's 197 MPH record is safe. If you are wondering what were the dates in which Bill Elliott set his Daytona and Talladega records. His 210 MPH Daytona lap occurred on February 8th, 1987 while his Talladega 212 MPH lap was on April 30th, 1987 (Talladega back then saw them qualify on Thursdays).
@@jebediahgentry7029 In 1998 the Fords switched to the Taurus. Plus the 197 MPH lap was on the freshly reconfigured and current Atlanta layout. The asphalt that is being ripped up is the same asphalt that Bodine ripped that lap on. In fact, that was the first time the pole speed was 190+ MPH in the track's history. On the old layout, the record was 186 MPH.
@@mattkowal90 I know that they switched to the Taurus the next year and it was repaved the track but the impressive part of that lap is the fact that it was done in one of the cars from that era.
'04 the day Kasey Kahne broke the track record at pocono, ill never forget waiting in a 4 hr line with my 3yr old to meet kasey at bass pro shop in Harrisburg. I was very nervous, but wished him good luck qualifying. Cool day, forever burned in my brain.
The Bill Elliott clip was from 1985. Before restrictors, he was running race laps, by himself, over 205 MPH. In 1987 he qualified at Talladega at 212.809. Now even in a draft they can't run that fast. With the restrictions on chassis and engine designs, it will be a long time before they reach those speeds again. And every time they begin to creep up on 200 MPH qualifying laps, NASCAR acts to slow them down. Their biggest concern is 3500# car catching air and going into the stands.
Yep. What drew me to NASCAR in the first place was the fact that the cars were shitboxes with little downforce and way too much power. Just a year later, they started restricting the engines. And some years later, they decided that it was a good idea to reduce the power even more and increase the downforce on 1.5 miles ovals.
Sounds like you need a different racing series to watch then..indycar’s consistently run over 225mph at Indianapolis, and their 2020 Indy 500 had only 6-7 lead changes that weren’t because of pit stops. You’ll also notice how many of the clips in these videos are from qualifying, where the cars are trimmed out, and there’s no other competition. If top speed was everything Indycar wouldn’t be struggling to bring in 1 million viewers for every race :)
Yes! I remember watching that race. Had a rain delay, got back to racing then was finally called for rain. Was awesome to see the cars running that fast.
Right. Look how these guys used to turn 9500. I remember I went to some races at Homestead in the early 00s - mid 00s and they were turning close to 9400 at the end of the straightaway and it was just ear splitting hearing those cars turn that rpm. You literally had an ear ache by the end of the race if you didn't have any ear plugs/headphones.
2014 had to have the fastest year overall ever in NASCAR. It's sad those days are gone thanks to the engine manufacturers not wanting to build 900 horsepower engines again.
They've never said just how fast Elliot was down the back strip but he had to be around 220 or better. I honestly believe that even Elliot didn't know just how fast that car was until that day.
You need to do a part 2 to this. Like Jeff Gordon pole at Michigan in 2014 or his 2015 Daytona 500 pole or Tony Stewart or Kurt Busch at Texas going over 200mph on a 1.5 mile track. Or Bill Elliots track records at Daytona and Talladega. Ahh the good old days before nascar fucking turned into girl on her period dictatorship
@@ThiccRicc 2014 pure michigan 400 or whatever it was called back then, the actual race. Also after looking back at it, the speed was actually 235 mph. Average lap speed was around 207 to 208 mph. Oh, the 2017 Pure Michigan 400 was also hella fast.
Haven't watched the video yet, but please tell me 97 napa 500 qualifying is on their. Still the Atlanta track record Update: dude! How can you leave that off!? 197mph around AMS. And the fact that it's still the record and it was done in 1997 makes even more impressive
I still dont understand what happened with Elliot that season. He had to have been cheating obviously, something was very clearly different in that car, but it doesn't seem like anyone else figured it out lol
Those were the peak Chrysler had it own track and wind tunnel the 426 hemi was designed for aircraft but became obsolete due to jet engines... they were banned because of winning by laps nothing since has been a stock car you could order from a dealer
I think cool thing nascar could what make qualifying exciting could do with new hybrid car. I love at Indy when they give teams more boost during qualifying
The new Atlanta surface is going to break all the old track records if they would just give them their 850 HP back. But with Nascar limiting the HP in these cars now you aren't going to see 200+ MPH anymore.
The cars from the 80's are the most impressive out of any of these. Those cars were not very aerodynamic and could still hit 200+ mph. That says a lot about the horsepower those engines were putting out.
“Not very aerodynamic”
Cale Yarborough: Fuck cars, I’m flying an aeroplane now...
Just imagine what the gen 4 car or COT could’ve done if they didn’t have restrictor plates at Daytona/Talladega. I think 240 going into turn 1 would be possible. Absolutely nuts.
@@RussellAutosport cot car was never gonna succeed. reason they scrapped it. was cars were turning into airplanes and helicopters. and if you go back to listening radio and interviews. none of the drivers liked the car. most of em called them coffin cars.
@@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 The COT is still used today. The “gen 6” car is the same car with a different body over the chassis. The reason cars were taking off with the COT was the rear wing initially put onto it. Once they put a spoiler back on, that problem was fixed.
Ford Thunderbird was very aerodynamic. Those boxy GM cars weren't. They were so bad they had to whine to NASCAR to get the sloped back glass to be able to compete with the Thunderbird. Too bad I have never seen one like that on the road but you can still see Thunderbirds like that!
I miss when the cars were going 210+ into turn one at Fontana
sad that next year theyre gonna be going 70 mph in the turns in california
Yeah, but yet 200 Miles Per Hour at Talladega was just too fast smh 🤦🏻♂️.
Or 215 at Michigan
@@testing056 2023
@@TracksideViews my bad
"Two-oh-Ten". How did I forget THAT Darrell-ism? 😆
“ ITS A NEW TRACK RECORRRRRRD”
Denny Hamlin
We will probably never hear that again
It's like Mario Party: NEW RECORD!
"WHATTAYA KNOW!"
Lies again? Face Of MLS FNB Money
I forgot how angry sounding the cars used to be in the CoT and early Gen 6 era. I miss it.
its RPM. anything over like.. 8500 starts to sound insane. especially like 9500. Insane coming from a pushrod engine
@@2jsalomonand the fact that they are big 'murican V8 engines and not something like little 2 liters high rpm inline 4 is just amazing
@CJ-xx5msthat's because they used x-pipes for the exhaust
2019 to now: *_timid laughter of 550 package_*
The 670 of today is an improvement, but still far flung from the 900 we desire
You never fully appreciate something until it’s gone. I think that’s what we did with the 750 and 900 HP. those things would scream off into turn 1 and down the backstretch. We’ll never get those races again thanks to the tapered spacer and the terrible HP package.
I know, but I never thought in a hundred years they cut that much HP. I definitely took it for granted.
Fortunately we're getting a 670 HP package at Fontana and other 1-2.5mi tracks. Wonder how that'll do.
They added too much downforce. The downforce is what makes the dirty air bigger, I think. HP negates some of the dirty air.
I so want the high HP back. Went to the race at TX this last weekend and while it was fun it’s just not the same. The cars while loud, sound bogged down where they used to just scream
It's weird to see qualifying televised fully and with commentary. Just even existing at all.
Ye
The good ole days. Where practice and qualifying were must watch
I loved real qualifying. Any real fan misses this. Qualifying was as good as the race!
Why is that weird? They still do that.
@@kyleraymer5581 what
Remember 10 years ago when nascar could go 210mph into a corner and be safe but magically today can’t…
Why is that??
@@jacobmontes5000 because they run all over each other these days.
There was never anything safe about 210 in a corner.
Dale Jr got severely concussed in 2012 at Kansas going 190 when he blew a right front tire. At a certain point, the speeds become too dangerous. They need to go back to the limit and just not cross that.
There is no such thing as safe at 210mph in a race car.
It's so funny that you posted this because I literally have been watching a replay of the 2014 Pure Michigan 400 for the sake of seeing fast cars again. The minimum speed in the corners used to be faster than they hit on the straights now at Michigan. Insane speed and I love it
The whole 2012 repave at Michigan started the low horsepower
I miss the days when race cars were fast. #wewant900hpback
2:58 I forgot how much rear steer the cars had in 2012. NASCAR will never be the edge of the limit sport it once was. I’m glad I got to see the peak decade of the sport growing up.
What were the peak years?
@@yankees29 Probably mid to late 2000s into early 2010s.
@@easyenetwork2023 oh ok. My brothers good buddy used to watch it a lot in the late 90’s early 2000’s I remember. I’ve never really watched. Seems like the older fans aren’t happy with the product anymore. Just like everything else it going to crap I guess?🤣
Side force was a cool gimmick and made the cars fun to watch just in terms of pure speed but it absolutely ruins the air. Clean air became king and you'd never catch someone in first once they were clear. I know because it feels like half of the races I watched when I was a young teenager ended with one guy getting out in front with 30 to go and having a 17+ second gap to second place by the checkered flag.
Back when the cars went fast before NASCAR went and chased after a fanbase that don't exist
Now they go... just as fast.
@Ryley Zayet I know it's easy to hate NASCAR when you don't watch it, but they are going easily 200+mph at Daytona and Talladega. Catch the draft right and they go 210mph.
@@RippingItAllSportsCards "Now they go... just as fast." --- No, they do not. No one is coming close to track records anymore.
@@StsFiveOneLima They also haven't qualified in a while haha. No one was debating about track records being broken, but they do go just as fast.
@@RippingItAllSportsCards Whatever. They are considerably slower than they could or should be.
SPEED BABY
DW really said 2010 in the first clip lmfao
the good ole days when cars went over 2,000 mph
engage ludicrous speed!
Ambrose's 203 MPH lap at Michigan isn't even the track record. Two years later in August 2014, Jeff Gordon won the pole with a lap at over 206 MPH! Currently today, the three fastest tracks are Talladega, Daytona, and Michigan. Just behind those three, Tony Stewart qualified at just over 200 MPH at Texas, and in one round of qualifying Kurt Busch turned a lap at over 200 MPH at Charlotte. If it weren't for the 550 HP package, God knows what the pole speed at Atlanta would be next year on the new pavement. I think Geoffrey Bodine's 197 MPH record is safe. If you are wondering what were the dates in which Bill Elliott set his Daytona and Talladega records. His 210 MPH Daytona lap occurred on February 8th, 1987 while his Talladega 212 MPH lap was on April 30th, 1987 (Talladega back then saw them qualify on Thursdays).
Geoff Bodine is one of the more impressive runs to me. The fact that he did it in 1997 in of of those old thunderbirds is insane
@@jebediahgentry7029 In 1998 the Fords switched to the Taurus. Plus the 197 MPH lap was on the freshly reconfigured and current Atlanta layout. The asphalt that is being ripped up is the same asphalt that Bodine ripped that lap on. In fact, that was the first time the pole speed was 190+ MPH in the track's history. On the old layout, the record was 186 MPH.
@@mattkowal90 I know that they switched to the Taurus the next year and it was repaved the track but the impressive part of that lap is the fact that it was done in one of the cars from that era.
I was at MIS for Gordon’s lap. So cool to watch.
'04 the day Kasey Kahne broke the track record at pocono, ill never forget waiting in a 4 hr line with my 3yr old to meet kasey at bass pro shop in Harrisburg. I was very nervous, but wished him good luck qualifying. Cool day, forever burned in my brain.
Ambrose in the thumbnail
The big double thumbs up 👍👍
The Bill Elliott clip was from 1985. Before restrictors, he was running race laps, by himself, over 205 MPH. In 1987 he qualified at Talladega at 212.809. Now even in a draft they can't run that fast. With the restrictions on chassis and engine designs, it will be a long time before they reach those speeds again. And every time they begin to creep up on 200 MPH qualifying laps, NASCAR acts to slow them down. Their biggest concern is 3500# car catching air and going into the stands.
That is a good concern. At 250, every wreck might be fatal.
@@easyenetwork2023 I’d say 200-208 os fine
550HP Package: we don’t do that, here
550 is Bullshit
@@aldouscoroza that’s facts
@@aldouscoroza Yeah.
NASCAR.
BRING, BACK, THE UNRESTRICTED/HIGH HORSEPOWER /900 HORSEPOWER ENGINE PACKAGE AGAIN!
@@Jose-Gomez pray bro pray
@@aaronbld Yes. For The 2025 NASCAR Cup Series, BUSCH Series, And The Craftsman Truck Series Season.
This is what we need to bring back. I don’t care about making the racing “close” just make the cars fast again
Amen to that.
Same
Yep. What drew me to NASCAR in the first place was the fact that the cars were shitboxes with little downforce and way too much power.
Just a year later, they started restricting the engines.
And some years later, they decided that it was a good idea to reduce the power even more and increase the downforce on 1.5 miles ovals.
I’d much rather have closer competitive racing at 170-180 mph than someone pulling away out front at 205 mph
Sounds like you need a different racing series to watch then..indycar’s consistently run over 225mph at Indianapolis, and their 2020 Indy 500 had only 6-7 lead changes that weren’t because of pit stops.
You’ll also notice how many of the clips in these videos are from qualifying, where the cars are trimmed out, and there’s no other competition.
If top speed was everything Indycar wouldn’t be struggling to bring in 1 million viewers for every race :)
Bring this back. I remember in 2018 Michigan they showed fastest speeds going into turn 1 multiple cars 218 219. Jimmie Johnson 220
Yes! I remember watching that race. Had a rain delay, got back to racing then was finally called for rain. Was awesome to see the cars running that fast.
I remember seeing those numbers that weekend. 220 in the race for JJ was the fastest I remember seeing too.
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT Not at 220 at Michigan, maybe at plate tracks or mile and a half tracks they might.
@@easyenetwork2023 watch the 2018 michigan race they were doing like 217 down the fronystretch
They were running at 750 HP with ride heights low to the ground. That's what racing needs to be.
Love the random love for Terry Labonte and the Delphi car! I wonder how fast the quickest cars were going down the straightway in that session.
I'd've been disappointed if Awesome Bill hadn't been #1. Amazing race. I'd love to watch the whole thing. Thanks!
It's here on RUclips in 3 parts
@@knobdikker thanks. I'll watch it today.
Woo, that SNAIL is FAST!!!!
This makes me miss the 900 horsepower days 😢
I miss hearing 9000+ RPM. Its not the same now sitting in the stands hearing these tapered spacer cars.
Right. Look how these guys used to turn 9500. I remember I went to some races at Homestead in the early 00s - mid 00s and they were turning close to 9400 at the end of the straightaway and it was just ear splitting hearing those cars turn that rpm. You literally had an ear ache by the end of the race if you didn't have any ear plugs/headphones.
I agree they don’t sound as loud. Almost like a dull not as loud drone
2014 had to have the fastest year overall ever in NASCAR. It's sad those days are gone thanks to the engine manufacturers not wanting to build 900 horsepower engines again.
They've never said just how fast Elliot was down the back strip but he had to be around 220 or better. I honestly believe that even Elliot didn't know just how fast that car was until that day.
Notice how most of these are from 2012 when those cars were built to perform
I miss seeing my guy Kasey Kahne race. I want him to make a comeback to NASCAR
Best race ever: 1985 Winston 500! Bill lays a North Georgia asswhuppin on everybody!
"I am SPEED" -Lightning Mcqueen
ah yes, the days of Rick Allen and DW in the same booth
Ah yes 2010 mph
Good old super sonic speed how I missed you in racing (sarcasm a lot)
I remember when they hit nearly 220 at Michigan in the draft on race day.
You need to do a part 2 to this. Like Jeff Gordon pole at Michigan in 2014 or his 2015 Daytona 500 pole or Tony Stewart or Kurt Busch at Texas going over 200mph on a 1.5 mile track. Or Bill Elliots track records at Daytona and Talladega. Ahh the good old days before nascar fucking turned into girl on her period dictatorship
2014.
Michigan.
Greg Biffle hit 226 mph.
Enough said.
Where I need to see this
@@ThiccRicc 2014 pure michigan 400 or whatever it was called back then, the actual race.
Also after looking back at it, the speed was actually 235 mph.
Average lap speed was around 207 to 208 mph.
Oh, the 2017 Pure Michigan 400 was also hella fast.
@@lsbigworld6672 I watched the 2014 race and skipped through to find the speed tikers and I couldn't find anything nighter than like 214
Thank God you mentioned Bill Elliot. I was starting to worry. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville🤙🏻
Missed out on Jeff Gordon’s laps at Michigan and Charlotte in 2013
That Kasey Kahne clip made me think about how heavy of an impact Dale Jr's blown tire must have been at Kansas
2017 michigan qualifying was mad fast
I've seen the estimated speed on some NASCARS a couple years ago on FOX, some were going 215 MPH!
Even all these years later Bill Elliott hasn't said what they did to make his cars that fast. I have always wanted to know that
There's so much history, and so many legendary events.
Bill eliotts ford was something else that day.
Awesome video! Love the topic, Hope there is more in this series. Great work!! 🔥
I hope next gen cars are faster than the 2021 car
@LE95CY Next Gen car is way faster on road courses, which I like.
I would love to see the most crazy DNF in nascar or the cars the most laps down not due to a accident or mechanical problem
The most crazy one ever is probably dnf do to not have a door
buddy baker was a badass
0:48 two o ten?
Man, those winged Mopars were the coolest.👍
I can't wait for the reaction channels to get ahold of this one.
2:17 😳 look at him in the car
He’s looking right where he’s going and the front wheels are turned into the spin. He’s in midair and still trying to save it.
@@MScotty90 pretty wild photo.
Now Gen 7:
Cries in 185mph
If you’re not FAST, you’re last.
Awesome clip videos keep them coming.
there’s a reason a lot of teams have a Yates or an Elliott build their engines.
"The only thing he asked: 'what was that first lap?'" LOVE IT
Taking my kids to their first nascar race in homestead this year. Looking forward to it.
2:17 man what a cool shot!!!
Aric Almirola went 217 at Michigan a few years ago.
What was the highest you could go at Auto Club back then?
2018 probably.
Bill Elliott hit 219 for a lap at Talladega in January 1988.
@@TheHighRoad1748 Just barely under that... I go to auto club every year... when it's on the schedule
2012 they had some fast cars
"2 -0 -10 my man said in first clip
How can Cale Yarborough look the same age in the 80’s as today ?? 😮
Haven't watched the video yet, but please tell me 97 napa 500 qualifying is on their. Still the Atlanta track record
Update: dude! How can you leave that off!? 197mph around AMS. And the fact that it's still the record and it was done in 1997 makes even more impressive
I was going off of speed but yes that is definitely an honorable mention
@@AthletesForChrist18 it's a great video btw. There's probably enough for a part two
I still dont understand what happened with Elliot that season. He had to have been cheating obviously, something was very clearly different in that car, but it doesn't seem like anyone else figured it out lol
nah
NASCAR needs to uncork those engines and let them run before we get into the electric era.
Agreed.
The clock is ticking...
With the hybrids though, they could run 550 HP and go fast as the V8s though. That would not bother me. The electric would.
They could remove the plates but for safely reasons, thats not happening
@0:45 Id watch more Nascar if the cars sounded like this again
Going that fast in one of those cars from the 80s is wild nobody would have the balls to do that today in one of those death traps
Gotta love the accent NASCAR drivers have.
Shew you can tell that terry labonte was straight cookin at Indy
“Two o ten”
Scottt SPEEEEED
Ahh back when there was a speed channel..
If ur in this video ur insane
Fastest moments: im fast!
Light: Are u sure about that
It’s so insane how Nascar just let the CoTs and Gen 6s go up to 205, damn
5:35 look at that thing driving sideways lol almost as much as hornish that time
Does anyone know where that documentary clip about Cale came from? I'd like to watch the full thing, just don't know the name
Kind of surprised there wasn't anything from 2014 where they were going 215 in race trim at Michigan.
Darrell really said 2-0-10🤣🤣
This reminds me when my father used to race with a BMW M5 Competition
I loved those Monte Carlos in the 80's
That 70’s video at talladega is crazy
Those were the peak Chrysler had it own track and wind tunnel the 426 hemi was designed for aircraft but became obsolete due to jet engines... they were banned because of winning by laps nothing since has been a stock car you could order from a dealer
Where was that interview about Daytona with Cale from? I'd like to watch whatever that was lol.
And the one at the end lol.
The best part are the screaming unrestricted V8s. The 2nd best part is mid corner speeds are faster than the end of straight speeds today
"Two o ten into turn three." -Darrell Waltrip
Where did you find the video of Hamlin’s Pocono run? I’ve been trying to find video from that qualifying session
I think cool thing nascar could what make qualifying exciting could do with new hybrid car. I love at Indy when they give teams more boost during qualifying
REMOVE RESTRICTER PLATES!!!
Imagine that engine inside the 2023 F1 Chassis 🤣🤣🤣
So weird hearing Darrell Waltrip and Rick Allen together
Jeff Gordon
2014 Michigan
206.558 average
I can’t even imagine the cars today going 202+ at Kansas😲
hey KKB can you make hardiest hits:brake falure edition
We'll never see speeds like this again unless NASCAR get their heads out their ass
They literally have this year.
@@RippingItAllSportsCards where? Most tracks nowadays they hit 180-185mph tops. No where near 200-210 like its shown above.
Daytona and Talladega
Don't ever count on NA$CRAP getting its head outta of itsASS!
I thought Greg Biffle once was at 215 mph going into turn 1 at MIS ?
Bring back 850 HP cars.
210 mph for a stockcar is faster than what it is for a Formula
Jackson storm been real quiet since then
The new Atlanta surface is going to break all the old track records if they would just give them their 850 HP back. But with Nascar limiting the HP in these cars now you aren't going to see 200+ MPH anymore.
how did cale's windshield pop out intact so easily?
How do you not include Jeff Gordon at Michigan 2014?!