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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • Review of the ARRI Signature Prime lenses with comparison to Sony G Master lenses.
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    Review of the ARRI Signature Prime lenses with comparison to Sony G Master lenses.
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    0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
    1:49 - Build & Ergonomics
    3:45 - Focus Breathing
    4:21 - Chromatic Aberration
    6:07 - Distortion & Vignetting
    7:33 - Bokeh
    9:09 - Impression Filters
    10:54 - Color Quality
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  • @impatrickt
    @impatrickt 9 месяцев назад +152

    apologies to patrick tomasso we ran out of time

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  9 месяцев назад +26

      Shout-out to Patrick for shooting the scenes at ARRI rental. 💜🙏

    • @StephenFord
      @StephenFord 9 месяцев назад +8

      Patrick is Matt Damon confirmed

    • @OneTap__
      @OneTap__ 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@geraldundone Love the distortions and chromatic aberration at the end... Never tough an ARRI could do that. :D

    • @SkyCoreLLC
      @SkyCoreLLC 9 месяцев назад +8

      We put those up against the new $5k set of NISI primes and were blown away using the same projector in Burbank. The days of $30k primes are almost over. We sold our Summilux C's and now shooting major shows on Tokina and Sigmas.....crazy.

    • @larryrobins
      @larryrobins 8 месяцев назад +1

      A couple of things to keep in mind with rentals on these and other cinema lenses. Rental houses are somewhat loathe to break a set of these lenses. Your regular rental house will usually rent you a lens or two but they would prefer to rent the ‘set’ of 7 or 11 lenses. Many houses do not own a full set of ARRI Signatures or Leitz Primes or, or, or. You might have to call around to multiple houses to get the primes you want and if the rental house doesn’t already know you and have an agreed upon price discount, you might end up paying full daily, weekly or monthly price. Also, there are a lot of extraordinarily good lower priced primes that do a creditable job for most cinematographers at a fraction of the cost of these primes. One of things you’re paying for with these Signature lenses (or Leitz or Cooke etc.) is the consistency of the set. Almost all have identical diameter front elements along with factory based color matching. And, one last thing: if you’re not pretty good at focus pulling ,don’t even bother with these lenses. If you’re gonna pay the rental freight, hire a first rate focus puller or you’re just wasting your time and money. Great review. Thanks, Gerald.

  • @kylehaggard7348
    @kylehaggard7348 9 месяцев назад +321

    Fun fact about the chromatic aberration on the signature primes vs other lenses: when bending light for out of focus areas in the foreground and background, the usual wavelengths are magenta and green as we know. but, on the signature primes, they designed the optical formula to have the wavelengths of light be blue for background and amber for foreground, which are a lot more natural looking. You can tell this in the testing you did, actually

    • @clfeuillet
      @clfeuillet 9 месяцев назад +36

      They mentionned that in the video with potatoJet I remember!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  9 месяцев назад +76

      Yeah. Agreed. The hue of the fringing on the ARRI is less aggressive.

    • @nicolask.3825
      @nicolask.3825 9 месяцев назад +11

      I swear some Canon lenses do this, too - at least going off of some older Christopher Frost reviews.

    • @Legendary_Tales
      @Legendary_Tales 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank for that technical tid-bit. So the coating on the glass makes the BG blue and the FG amber? A perfect lens for skin tones. Yeah? For just about everything you can capture with a camera. Yeah?

    • @Legendary_Tales
      @Legendary_Tales 9 месяцев назад

      @@geraldundone I sincerely value your opinion. I have for years, now. So, the coating on the glass makes the BG blue and the FG amber. So says @kylehaggard7348. Does that make this a (nearly) perfect lens for skin tones. Actually, it would be the "best" (most visually pleasing to humans) for just about everything you can capture with a camera. Yeah?

  • @flochfitness
    @flochfitness 9 месяцев назад +278

    Thank goodness for this in-depth review. I was on the fence between the signature primes and the G Master, and this just cinched it for me. Thank you, Gerald!

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 9 месяцев назад +190

    I was going to buy this lens, but the lack of image stabilization totally killed it for me.

  • @gregnewland2651
    @gregnewland2651 9 месяцев назад +41

    Of all the reviews, and all the years I have watched your channel, THIS is hands-down my favorite review. So rare is it for us mortals to really get to see what makes $30+K of ARRI glass so incredibly special. And that projector melted my brain...

  • @kayjaylin
    @kayjaylin 9 месяцев назад +122

    I quite like this comparison between the ULTIMATE and something premium. It gives a lot of context and perspective to the reviews. I think we get so much into the pixel peeping, spec sheet battling, this vs that battle, that we lose perspective. This gives perspective that we are looking at the wrong things quite often.

    • @ChadSchrandt
      @ChadSchrandt 9 месяцев назад +3

      I think your assessment is correct and it goes beyond that. Not only are we looking at the wrong things quite often, we're the only ones paying attention to this stuff in the first place. 99.9% percent of consumers of content will not notice weird bokeh or minor fringing. The vast majority of people will not care about any of this stuff as long as the story or content is good.

    • @kayjaylin
      @kayjaylin 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@ChadSchrandt Indeed. Its very similar to how shy individuals will imagine everyone is looking at them, judging and picking them apart, when in reality, no one cares. Same applies to a filmmaker viewing their own film...most audiences don't see the issues they see - whether that be color correction, chromatic abberation, angles that are shown, symbolism, etc.. Or even models and their perspective on their bodies. Its a human nature thing to put ourselves in the center of the world, thinking everything important revolves around our details, but in reality, its a different story for everyone. MORE big picture thinking.

    • @kayjaylin
      @kayjaylin 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@POVwithRC Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 9 месяцев назад +1

      A lot of what reviewers look at has no bearing on actual, real world work and gets abused by manufacturers' marketing. Nikon just came out with a 135mm that eliminates cat's eye and vignette. Neither matters in the real world, but it shows up in reviews, so they give the lens a special name and charge a premium.
      In real world use, only a few things really matter: Do the focus motors keep up with what I'm shooting? Is the lens sharp enough for display on a 4k tv and for my maximum print size? Are there ugly abberations that take a long time to fix in post (ie on trees against a bright sky; false color on textured clothing, etc)?
      Beyond that, it's all just statistics with no real world impact. Run of the mill chromatic abberations and vignette? Irrelevant, they get fixed in camera or on import with zero work in post. Focus breathing? Doesn't matter whatsoever, unless you're trying to focus stack for macro. In video I've actually had clients comment *positively* on "that cool zoom effect". Cat's eye? Same thing, doesn't matter. No client is ever going to notice. Personally I positively like it. Build quality? Features like a good aperture ring can matter for some, but whether the lens is plastic or metal is not going to make a difference unless you're dropping it, in which case it needs to go into repair anyway. It's a style over substance thing in almost all cases.
      What's really stupid though is the fact that it's usually the hobbyists who obsess over this the most. Yes,it's fun to be nerdy about gear. Definitely. But please understand that it's just that - a nerdy bit of fun. You're not going to get better images out of a lens that has those (non) issues mentioned above "fixed". Professionals who take tens of thousands of images with all sorts of glass don't care. You don't need to buy a technically perfect lens to take pictures of your kids. Get a nifty 50 and a camera with good eye af. That's all you need. :D
      Addendum: Yes, I've mentioned elsewhere that I shoot with a collection of GM glass. Absolutely. This is because I want the reliability of fast, linear focus motors and I need the fast apertures because weddings include a lot of very low light work. The fact that they give the access to Sony Pro Services is a nice reassurance. However, in no way did any of the typical review-parameters deliniated above factor into my buying decisions.

    • @kayjaylin
      @kayjaylin 9 месяцев назад

      @@youknowwho9247 I appreciate this. Gear heads can have fun, and that's all fine, and I like obsessing over the details as its a hobby as well as the next gearhead and that can be its own existence. Though, for those who like execution of product, in the big picture, small issues with a lens can be "character" or framing/story is more important. Tools are there to just enhance, support, or detract. Its very similar to the PC and consumer tech industry, minute gear details get talked about all the time in marketing language. "The faster ever" "50% faster processor over the previous", but in the end, they represent minute and incremental improvements, nothing that will change the artists work monumentally. Some of the best creative works come from limitation in budget and resources. Sometimes when you have everything perfect, sometimes bad stuff can come out too. The only situation where I say the details matter, is when you leap frog from a largely older system to new gen to speed up the work, bring down costs, democratize the technology, and help distribute the work.

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 9 месяцев назад +120

    So what you’re telling me is that photo lenses have actually just gotten incredibly good.

    • @quentindescotte6037
      @quentindescotte6037 9 месяцев назад +11

      Not really, photographic lenses and cinema lenses have almost always been of equivalent optical quality, but the cinema industry only used the highest-quality lenses. There is little to no fundamental difference between photographic and cinema lenses. For example, Leica lenses use the same optical formulas for both cinema and photography. The crucial aspect is the housing, to attach motors and control focus breathing.

    • @FutureChaosTV
      @FutureChaosTV 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@quentindescotte6037
      But the glass of the cinema lenses is much larger (to collect more light as video needs way more light?)

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@FutureChaosTVThe lens is this large so that the light can pass through it in very straight manner in order to decrease CA and distortion. But it doesn’t gather more light than the Sony (well it kinda does as it has way less vignetting)

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@FutureChaosTV As a hybrid wedding shooter I can tell you that stills photography requires more light than video. This is because in video, I can drop the shutter speed much lower. Let's say I'm shooting the first dance of a wedding couple. The lighting at the venue is beautiful, so I don't want to overpower it with speedlights, I want to capture it. But it's also dim, which is the case pretty much always. For my stills, I'm going to need a shutter speed of 1/250ish. For 60 fps video I want 1/125, but I can get away with 1/60 in a pinch. This means that if I'm shooting photos at 3200 ISO, I can get my video down to 1600 or even 800 (which is base ISO for S-log 3). Same light, cleaner video.

    • @noahyv
      @noahyv 9 месяцев назад

      Photo lenses have always been optically comparable to cinema lenses, imax films are often shot on still lenses, but as always they still fall way behind on breathing, matching, and manual focus mechanics

  • @cafarellidigital
    @cafarellidigital 9 месяцев назад +6

    This is a fantastic comparison and analysis, and a great perspective on re-aligning what qualities we should be looking for in a lens. I'd love for you to continue doing a series of this!

  • @kc-db
    @kc-db 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, Gerald. Cool concept. Glad you're finding ways to keep things fresh for your reviews and still helping folks learn!

  • @vonwolfersdorff
    @vonwolfersdorff 9 месяцев назад +5

    Great video Gerald and really the first time I did NOT put something into my shopping list after watching your review. Greets from Berlin!

  • @victorroyclicks
    @victorroyclicks 9 месяцев назад +2

    This set is starting to look a lot better! Keep up the great work!

  • @t1merickson
    @t1merickson 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hands down the most interesting video from you in a long while. Awesome to see this comparison

  • @david_garibaldi
    @david_garibaldi 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much, Gerald! For someone who just recently started renting cinema lenses for the narrative client projects i shoot, this is really something i´d love to see you doing way more. There are already some really good, affordable (and of course less affordable) cinema lenses on the market. To see them compared to the KING made by Arri would be so cool. For a lot of the newer cine lenses you don't even need a PL mount anymore.. how convenient. 🙂

  • @hudsonhower2042
    @hudsonhower2042 9 месяцев назад +7

    Impression filters are the most exciting things about these lenses to me. It essentially gives you new lenses with each filter. I'm wildly hopeful that another lens manufacturer will implement this kind of filtering, as it's still tough to handle the Signature Prime price tag. Even when considering rentals.

  • @andgainingspeed
    @andgainingspeed 9 месяцев назад +2

    Such an entertaining episode! Great premise and it worked well. Reward yourself with that projector. 👍

  • @anchorsanvils
    @anchorsanvils 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Gerald this was a fantastic review and I hope you can continue doing this with other equipment to show what the top tier of equipment is vs your regular pro-sumer and just get people back to shooting and creating instead of endless gear acquisition syndrome.

  • @noenken
    @noenken 9 месяцев назад +18

    This is a great idea, I think. Sure, comparisons between a bunch of lenses that are "good" is interesting to make a purchasing decision. But having the context of what is actually possible can be really helpful. I would even suggest to have a comparison of non compromise lenses against each other. One of these cinema primes, a Zeiss Otus, a Noct, a Leica SL APO Summicron ... That would be crazy. :D

  • @davinfitch
    @davinfitch 9 месяцев назад

    I wish there were more reviews like this. You did a very good job showing and explaining what characteristics are going on from lens to lens. Also surprised to see the CA on the signature, although subtle - just inherently is what comes with glass. The only test I wish I saw was color consistency from lens to lens in a set, but I also understand why you only had the 35mm. It'd be nice to know what a realistic expectation of that would be since I feel like "color consistent" is used for marketing, but I've seen shifts on the more expensive cinema lenses. All in all - great video Gerald!

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 9 месяцев назад

    Impressive review. Thanks for bringing back the swirling vortex at the end. I always look forward to it.

  • @blancheit4696
    @blancheit4696 9 месяцев назад +2

    I like the return of the old format. Maybe not always but keep doing some time this kind of episode. As always awesome job!

  • @M2008tw
    @M2008tw 9 месяцев назад

    I tried this lens from ARRI yesterday and was quite surprised at how smoothly the focus ring moves plus the size - I thought it was bigger - I got that impression from this wonderful YT ❤😊. It was at the same time a bit funny because at the same time I looked at Nisi Athena - which is much smaller, but I have no doubt where they have been inspired in their visual expression and surface treatment. At the same time, they are more within range of something I can afford - plus they don't take up as much space and weight if you're on the go. It's a wild time we live in with all the possibilities. THX for the upload Gerald 👍🏽

  • @ddgarage7025
    @ddgarage7025 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lens projectors are so cool to use. Back when I used to work at a Nikon, Tamron and Sony repair centre, I used them all the time for calibrating and inspecting lenses and it's really something else.

  • @boristahmasian9604
    @boristahmasian9604 9 месяцев назад +2

    Gerald, you are too much buddy! I was not expecting this. You always have a surprise up your sleeve. Great comparison. Love your videos. No wonder the movie guys love ARRI lenses.

  • @DanielsimsSteiner
    @DanielsimsSteiner 9 месяцев назад

    This vid is so good. One of my favorites you’ve ever done

  • @MichaelGAubrey
    @MichaelGAubrey 9 месяцев назад +4

    It's common for manufacturers pursuing APO quality to go for more purple/blueish than magenta because the blue is less offensive or visible. Arri is clearly following that tradition. And it does make the CA more subtle.

  • @UXXV
    @UXXV 9 месяцев назад +15

    That into the sun comparison was incredible. Consumer lens and even pro ones losing contrast where the Arri showed why it’s a cine performer !

    • @terrygoyan3022
      @terrygoyan3022 9 месяцев назад +9

      The contrast was stunning. The deep blacks in the shadows really shows how well that lens puts the light rays exactly where they belong, and nowhere else! Impressive to say the least.

    • @nyanyamero
      @nyanyamero 9 месяцев назад +3

      Arri showed us what consumer lens could have been. ✨

    • @UXXV
      @UXXV 9 месяцев назад

      If they had the real estate to not need to bend light as Gerald says
      @@nyanyamero

  • @HaraldEngels
    @HaraldEngels 9 месяцев назад +4

    One of the most interesting reviews I have got to see since a long time. I am so bored by the limited product scope of most reviewers. Please produce more videos which are not the version 27 of the same old story (with some minor technical improvements). RUclips videos - like yours - have educated the audience to be ready nowadays for more excursions into the professional domain and more looks "behind the scenes" of innovative manufacturers like Arri.

  • @mattslaboratory5996
    @mattslaboratory5996 9 месяцев назад +2

    Videos about Arri are always fun. They seem to do everything right. I wish we had more really good manufacturers like that. Of course, then we'd have to rent or lease everything. Might be ok.

  • @asrieljaksa1996
    @asrieljaksa1996 9 месяцев назад

    Absolutely loved this video. I've personal been very curious to see Gerald review the extreme high-end level of video gear; RED, ARRI, etc.
    Really cool to see the actually difference between a ARRI 35mm and a Sony G Master 35mm.

  • @smryt9728
    @smryt9728 8 месяцев назад

    10:59 This is such a great reference photo I just had to screenshot. Each focal length gives off different vibes. This is great for when you aren’t sure what focal length to use but you know what emotion you want to convey

  • @PsychonautTV
    @PsychonautTV 9 месяцев назад +2

    amazing video, Gerald! I love it when people nerd out over super high-end gear, it just speaks to my soul.
    and yeah, I've been saying this for ages, but cat-eye bokeh is actually good, idk why people don't like it. if anything, it draws attention towards the centre of the frame, making the subject stand out more.
    and that projector is incredible!! if only you could've mounted a G-Master on it 🤔😂

  • @MiddleofKnowhere
    @MiddleofKnowhere 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome video. Love seeing how you are geeking out to this. It's very impressive!

  • @redumbrella4218
    @redumbrella4218 9 месяцев назад

    Wow! You have the talent to teach! Fantastic job! Thank you!

  • @YOUAREMYKIN
    @YOUAREMYKIN 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, that was amazing. So nice to learn more about Arri’s lenses. And am so curious how this experience might change the approach to your reviews! Btw. Potato Jet’s review of the Arri SP 40mm was great too.

  • @bala1000mina
    @bala1000mina 3 месяца назад

    Loved the lens! Thanks for sharing your review Gerald!

  • @GoodcoStudios
    @GoodcoStudios 9 месяцев назад

    I don't have much to say other than, this video was so to watch. Incredible content once again GU!

  • @heathwirt8919
    @heathwirt8919 9 месяцев назад

    Very interesting, thank you for the video. The projection device for lens testing is next level.

  • @Jason-mk3nn
    @Jason-mk3nn 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this video. Even though I will never have the opportunity to play with that lens, it was amazing to see the pinnacle.
    I would bet that you could build a projector like they had. If out of the question, maybe this is an opportunity for a partnership with ARRI as it would continuously be a proof of their quality in comparison to any/all other lenses.

  • @quadsis5569
    @quadsis5569 9 месяцев назад

    absolutely bonkers. beautiful review. interesting to see that arri projector. thank you gerald

  • @simonfil2
    @simonfil2 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a first assistant camera the signature primes are a dream to work with. They make everything faster and communicates with the camera and wcu-4 system without having to manually set up everything.

  • @TechnoBabble
    @TechnoBabble 9 месяцев назад +1

    That contrast shooting directly into the sun was mind-blowing on the Signature Prime.

  • @torbenmayer
    @torbenmayer 9 месяцев назад +2

    The difference in the second shot with the sunstar along the edge of the roof was insane!

  • @DustinAbbottTWI
    @DustinAbbottTWI 9 месяцев назад

    That was really interesting, Gerald. I enjoyed it.

  • @michaelmcasey
    @michaelmcasey 9 месяцев назад +1

    Francois is the best!! Btw, the key difference with Signature Prime chromatic aberration is that it's shifted more towards blue and orange than green and magenta. It is impossible to remove chromatic aberration after a point, and Arri found that shifting it to blue-orange felt much more natural to the eye. I would agree.

  • @SavageAppOfficial
    @SavageAppOfficial 9 месяцев назад +1

    That projector is nuts!
    Which non-Arri lenses did they put on the projector for comparison?

  • @dynamicrangeproductions
    @dynamicrangeproductions 9 месяцев назад

    i loved this review a lot of reviews out there are just unnecessary nit picking and don't even translate to actual usage, that's why I prefer gerald he just gives you the review as is and you learn more after watching each video

  • @sjaakcoppens1000
    @sjaakcoppens1000 Месяц назад

    Excellent video. Good for viewers (like a hobbyist as me) to relax and go to improve and get better results starting with composition and technique. I went from Sony rx10 to a6700 and did buy lenses after reviewing several influencers and only cared for sharpness because of cropping afterwards and using TC on my long lens. (11mm1.8; 16-55mm2.8; 56mm1.4; 70-200mm2.8.)

  • @tysonbirmann
    @tysonbirmann 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great and informative video. It is hard to get this kind of access andd perspective as a "regular person". That being said, I have a thought.
    Lenses are the new film stock. Back when everything was shot on film, you had the option to change film stocks; speed, ASA, and various physical properties within the composition of the emulsion gave each stock a slightly different look. Kodak alone had A bunch of different formulas for their popular VISION stock. (still do). The point is, when they could use the film stock as a factor, the lens was just a part of the look.
    NOW... digital has nullified that difference. Your digital sensor is not going to change... so the lens and filters are the only way to affect the image optically on set. Companies like Panavision spend a lot of money and time perfecting what they call "prescriptions" that will add coatings and treatments to a lens set that will essentially 'destruct' the clean look of a so-called, perfect lens. DPs love to talk about 're-housed' vintage lenses that they have. Imperfect is a choice to them.
    The point is... Each lens has a look. saying one is more "pure" than another may be a fair statement... but calling it the BEST is subjective. The look of a lens isn't about how little distortion or color shift... it is about what you like.
    Gerald makes one point that is KEY in my opinion, but glosses over it pretty quickly. Consistency. What makes these crazy expensive lenses worth using isn't the perfection of the image. To me, it is the consistency of the "imperfections" that make them great. Knowing that you will get the same results from your 24mm - your 85mm is a great thing. I think this is where companies like SONY fall short. They treat each lens as if it is the ONLY lens. Use this G-Master 35 and then put the 85 equivalent on... not only will there will be a visual difference, but also the lens itself will feel like it was made in another factory and designed by another engineer. (often they are). Arri, Panavision, etc... create lens SETS that are meant to match in look and build, and quality.
    IF you are looking for a perfect lens and can afford the Signature Prime... go for it. But you should also ask yourself, if it is perfect... Why isn't it used in EVERY movie out there? Because Lenses are the new film stock.

  • @PresidentialFilm
    @PresidentialFilm 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great review! Love the Signature Primes! Shot with them last year. It'd be interesting to hear your take on the Tokina Cinema Vista lenses-since they claim to have no breathing and CA. They aren't as sharp as a Signature but for the price really hard to beat

    • @haxstir
      @haxstir 9 месяцев назад

      They are also used as a base lens for Masterbuilts and it is claimed Panavision use the Vistas for some of their FF frame sets.

  • @stefangroenveld
    @stefangroenveld 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting review and comparision. Thank you for your effort. I wished you would a similar video about the Leica SL Apo 35mm.

  • @frameguide
    @frameguide 9 месяцев назад

    Really cool to see the signature prime tested by you as a baseline ^^ If ARRI lets you i'd be stunned to see a test of the Alexa 35 (or the propably upcoming 35LF) as a comparison for all the mirrorless cameras, especially in the claimed dynamic range.

    • @oscarstegland
      @oscarstegland 9 месяцев назад

      Look at CineD. They have lab tests of this. The Alexa 35 is the real deal. Better than anything on the planet in the DR department

  • @williamwang3084
    @williamwang3084 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you Gerald for the video, very informative. Also, Wouldn't it be awesome if there were a future video comparing the Arri Signature Prime and Zeiss Otus lenses?

    • @grasmuc
      @grasmuc 9 месяцев назад

      exactly what I thought :-) pls do it!

  • @thermicdig3013
    @thermicdig3013 9 месяцев назад

    I massively enjoy your content, it’s helped along years to make real purchasing decisions, but I also love to just watch how thoroughly you and semi-scientifically analyze whatever gets on your hands.
    And I’ve got to say, this is the video I’ve enjoyed the most, it’s so interesting in so many ways.
    All right, I’m done…

  • @thejackoss
    @thejackoss 29 дней назад

    Hey Gerald, you ever got the occasion to try the 12mm of the Signature Prime series? One of the most jaw dropping lenses I've ever seen, and incredibly clean too (with barely any distorsion, for a 12mm!!)

  • @ramseymellette3169
    @ramseymellette3169 9 месяцев назад

    The cut to the wide shot to reveal a Teddy Bear seated in your guest chair? Amazing. 😀

  • @invisibleadversary
    @invisibleadversary 9 месяцев назад +9

    You get to a certain point where you're paying an insane premium for very small improvements generally only perceptible to other filmmakers but that's the beauty of having options. You can rent Arri primes if that difference means something to you or the story you're telling or you can buy a G Master lens which is also amazing and is usually sufficient for the job at hand.

  • @sane7798
    @sane7798 9 месяцев назад +10

    Nikon released 135mm f2 'DC' lens long time ago, and its internal lens element position can be adjusted to get the effects similar to impression filters you expained. It's bit disappointing that almost no major camera companies try bold experiment on their lenses nowdays.

    • @kavavnaughmp
      @kavavnaughmp 9 месяцев назад +5

      They also made one in 105mm

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 9 месяцев назад +2

      Canon has put that as a feature on their RF100mm macro

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 9 месяцев назад +1

      BTW speaking of Nikon, I wonder how their new 135mm Plena lens would stack up against an ARRI Signature prime. Their marketing for it mentioned some of the tweaks that are also present on the Signature Primes, like a larger projection circle. Would be interesting to see how it performs against a lens that has turned those tweaks to eleven

    • @oscarstegland
      @oscarstegland 9 месяцев назад

      You can get rear filters for signature primes as well as a bunch of Cine lenses these days

  • @remery4
    @remery4 9 месяцев назад +1

    i watch video just because i like your content.
    no chance in the world i would even get to touch these. as much as i trust in myself and hoping for the best, this lens is like 10x of my current rig :P

  • @sandb1867
    @sandb1867 Месяц назад

    14:16 microlensing effect (sensor diffraction) in the flare. Same problem often seen in astrophotography when imaging bright stars.

  • @HardwareMana
    @HardwareMana 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Gerald!! A big fan of your work 😊 Can I please suggest a video topic that is related to the missing video formats on Sony Alpha cameras?
    Basically, modern sony a7 series of cameras don't support H.265 PAL 4k25 shooting mode at all. Almost all of Europe and Asia use that mode and it's completely missing here.. There's no 4k30 mode as well in the XAVC HS mode which is honestly a weird omission as all canon, nikon or panasonic bodies support it
    HS is so much more space efficient for budget and beginner users and it's actually easier to edit on Apple M and Intel based modern computers.

  • @tomjkelly
    @tomjkelly 2 месяца назад

    Great video and good benchmark set

  • @Flippin-Beats
    @Flippin-Beats 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing video as always! Maybe do a Canon R7 review sometime? Would like to know it's nerdy specs as you could only get from Gerald.

  • @michaeltorumedia
    @michaeltorumedia 9 месяцев назад

    I can see the value in having the ultimate benchmark to compare other lenses too. Thanks for another great review and love the new talkshow set. Is the teddy bear your 1 year olds? My 2 year old daughter has a giant bunny stuffie callled Bun Bun 😅

  • @Abestechgarage
    @Abestechgarage 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for answering a question I’ve had for a very long time

  • @OneTap__
    @OneTap__ 9 месяцев назад

    *Love the distortions and chromatic aberration at the end... Never tough an ARRI could do that. :D*

  • @Legendary_Tales
    @Legendary_Tales 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the video, Gerald. I am a cinematography student. I had NO IDEA that Arri made lenses with "impression filters" that change the character of the otherwise pristinely neutral image. That is brilliant innovation from Arri. Now... I just thirty grand.

  • @SilatShooter
    @SilatShooter 9 месяцев назад +1

    Cool video! This comparison reminds me of high super cars compared to Vette Z01. To get that 10-15% more performance, the price skyrockets. Point of diminishing returns.

  • @jonathanz9889
    @jonathanz9889 9 месяцев назад +1

    Would also be cool if we coul get a comparison to the hasselblad setup

  • @ColtCapperrune
    @ColtCapperrune 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing stuff man 🤘🏻

  • @KikujiroChan
    @KikujiroChan 9 месяцев назад +7

    You can't say this often anymore but Arri is the kind of company I'm proud of as a german. While Leica lost most of their shine over the years everything related to Arri screams professionalism.

    • @haxstir
      @haxstir 9 месяцев назад

      Would like to see a FF Cooke S8/i 32mm comparison.

    • @Peahnuts
      @Peahnuts 9 месяцев назад

      How do you feel about the Leica Q3? (And it’s lens)

  • @NDWolff-of2zw
    @NDWolff-of2zw 9 месяцев назад +3

    Love it! Hope you do the same thing for cameras. Would love to see everything compared to Alexa 35.

    • @albinliungman1093
      @albinliungman1093 9 месяцев назад

      Don’t think that would be too interesting. Sensor technology today is reasonably even between price points and most sensors are made by Sony anyways. Arri lenses are expensive because they are perfect lenses. Arri cameras are expensive because DPs are willing to pay for them. Obviously they have pleasing color and high Dynamic range. mostly they are just reliable and provide a good platform for a cinema rig. I wager the difference in what you would see out of the final image between a sony mirror less and a arri is a lot less than differences in lenses. And sony gives that in a smaller form factor, with af, and for a lot less.
      One of my favourite directors grei Fraser is as you probably have heard using a Sony mirror less for the movie The Ceator
      Currently. Perfect optical quality is more expensive than perfect sensor quality. So that’s why I think the leap for cameras when moving into professional cinema gear is not as great.

  • @putzytart
    @putzytart 9 месяцев назад

    Hey what mic are you using for this video? Sound is stellar

  • @JorenVaes
    @JorenVaes 9 месяцев назад +1

    Regarding the lens color: I have heard (but don't remember where or how reliable this is) that on Nikon Z lenses this 'Color' was one of the things that made a lens 'S' line - supposedly the 'S' line lenses all use the same coatings and that gives them a matched color balance. Likely not to the same level as Sig Primes but still something.

  • @charlie9086
    @charlie9086 9 месяцев назад

    Great review! Can we expect one for the new BMCC 6K FF aswell?

  • @lputaa
    @lputaa 9 месяцев назад +1

    Asante sana kwa maelezo nzuri Gerald, you're the best reviewer hapa,wueh! Hii lens ni motoo...alafu mbona watu wa Canada wanapenda pickles? 😂

  • @fnytnqsladcgqlefzcqxlzlcgj9220
    @fnytnqsladcgqlefzcqxlzlcgj9220 9 месяцев назад +1

    WOW!!! those filters are incredible!!!

  • @daniellugo1
    @daniellugo1 9 месяцев назад

    What A review! Hats off

  • @pavelperina7629
    @pavelperina7629 9 месяцев назад +3

    Once I tried to take photos of night sky and milky way. I found out there are astigmatism and coma artifacts and no one mentions them in a reviews, because they normally do not matter, they are causing just some sharpness issues in the corner and/or barely noticeable loss of contrast. It surprised me they are described on some webs dedicated to astrophotography, but not elsewhere.

    • @joeaddison
      @joeaddison 9 месяцев назад

      Every review video from Christopher Frost includes this information

  • @CountDonoho
    @CountDonoho 9 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting comparison, but a few questions / thoughts: I'd be curious if a native lpl mount on an Arri camera would have had any different results, as i'm not sure if wooden camera is a mathematically "flawless" lpl mount on a Sony camera (this lens wasn't designed for that sensor). Its also worth noting that the signature primes aren't advertised as being a "perfect" lens, they paint them as having a classic softness, warmth, and naturalism: I don't think this is the lens to be the benchmark for physical perfection, more of an aesthetic benchmark based on what arri feels the human eye likes the most. I wonder if Panavision primes or the recently updated Leica lenses would check the boxes on bokeh and aberration better for "flawless".

  • @aCuria.
    @aCuria. 9 месяцев назад +3

    Very cool, did you manage to mount the GM onto the projector to make a comparison?

  • @ruppertbohle9597
    @ruppertbohle9597 9 месяцев назад

    so when can we expect you to get a Chrosziel P-TP7 II to do your future lens testing with?

  •  Месяц назад +1

    4:40 The cool thing is Arri tuned the Chromatic abberations to be more warm and cold OR Blue And yellow Which is sooo much better looking than green and magenta

  • @Imhotep397
    @Imhotep397 9 месяцев назад

    1 layer of effect is great for most commercial projects, but attenuated characteristics passing through multiple optical elements are more nuanced, more complex and depending on the project that nuance and/complexity is contributed in service of the story.

  • @wardsellars8805
    @wardsellars8805 9 месяцев назад +1

    Curious to know the Arri 35mm Signature prime with the Cooke equivalent, since we are talking about 'unobtanium' lenses.

  • @Zodion
    @Zodion 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Gerald!
    Regarding the projector: you should really check out the Dulens MF60 cinema lens projector. It's quite new and will support LPL for about 5 to 6k (if my memory is correct). I can get you in touch with Jackson, who is handling most of the customer orders and support :-)

  • @futoenjoyer
    @futoenjoyer 8 месяцев назад

    the impression filter basically does the same thing as the canon rf 100mm f2.8 macro lens
    which has an additional "SA Control" Ring that goes from negative to positive. it affects the foreground and background bokeh in the same way as how the positive and negative impression filters does to this arri prime lens.

  • @faba6753
    @faba6753 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Gerald, love your content. Im a Sony shooter but wonder why you never review Leica lenses / systems? Ive been very interested in that too.

  • @ettepet9308
    @ettepet9308 9 месяцев назад +1

    Fun comparison! Mine is still the 600mm GM.

  • @navpreetsingh8156
    @navpreetsingh8156 9 месяцев назад

    Interesting comparison, did you add the distortion for the Sony?

  • @nubscrub
    @nubscrub 9 месяцев назад

    Impressive. If anything, this just highlights (again) how awesome of a job Sony did with the 35GM.

  • @hzubovi1
    @hzubovi1 9 месяцев назад

    I got to mount a anamorphic prime from Vantage - Hawk on my Sony a7RIII, and the colors, contrast and 3D effect You get out of those is amazing

  • @jonathanbtodd
    @jonathanbtodd 9 месяцев назад

    I love your new set!

  • @HAlariousInc
    @HAlariousInc 9 месяцев назад

    The projector is a Chrosziel Lens Testing Projector TP7. They also make some stuff for the FX6

  • @ThomasFransson
    @ThomasFransson 9 месяцев назад

    Oh wow!
    Can't wait to watch this one.

  • @trowaclown
    @trowaclown 9 месяцев назад

    You do you, sir. You do you, and your vibe will attract your tribe.

  • @Innuya
    @Innuya 9 месяцев назад

    François is such a character (and good salesperson :p)
    yeah, these lenses are nuts. Are we to expect an upcoming video on the Arri 35 textures?

    • @Innuya
      @Innuya 9 месяцев назад

      Also, this is a great demonstration of the 80:20 rule. The Sony G Master will get you 80% of the way but at 20% (or in this case, 7%!) of the expenditure.

  • @PaulFeinberg
    @PaulFeinberg 9 месяцев назад

    very interesting video! Yes you should have one of those projectors lol Great video!

  • @marcback1
    @marcback1 9 месяцев назад

    Dear Gerald, my anxiety issue ramp up during this video. Seeing this 30k lense sitting on the rear lense cap on the edge of your desk, with you, moving randomly your hands... it was too much for me. I had to take my mediation...again, i thought I was done with this.
    😂😂
    By the way, as a professionnal photographer for 15 years now, I really never understood why the "roundness" of bokeh balls was a criteria of perfection for so many people reviewing lenses.
    Thank for this video and all your work

  • @mzungudave
    @mzungudave 9 месяцев назад

    Fascinating - thanks!

  • @rachinski
    @rachinski 9 месяцев назад

    Please do a review on the Cooke sp3!
    Nice job as always!