I don't comment on gaming videos much, but you make so much sense when you explain stuff. I am not a young man, but I have been playing WOW since 2005. I rally enjoyed MW when MOP went live and always wanted to get back into it. I am just saddened that they "nerfed" FW because I was just starting to get into playing that. Now I have to learn MW all over again, imagine that. I went back to Monk for the FW because I usually play melee and FW fit right into my playstyle. Now I die from a lvl 1 squirrel......... j/k, it was really a lvl 2. I will continue to watch your videos as I navigate the change of going from a melee to a caster. However, I do hope that FW will make it's way back to PVP. Please keep up the good work.
After I play my monk I have to take a break before I play any other class. It skews my perception of what I can do because it’s head and shoulders above the rest
As always, ty insanely well done guide glad that im subbed for years to u :) Just a little sidenote on the race. Personally I play voidelf, I cant tell u how many times this saved my ass of getting trained down by meelecleaves
I swapped to a MW caster main in 10.0.7 after playing rdru and disc and not particularly enjoying them. Haven't played MW since MoP. Love your videos and all the positive vibes. The essence of monk chi
"Knowing how to survive and get away from people." Yea, that's difficult in battlegrounds. Been playing BGs the last few days on my MW in prep for future solo shuffle battlegrounds and it's a bit of a pain when things are so uncoordinated and I'm targeted.
Has this question already been answered? BTW great guide, I just picked up MW today and it helped alot from a fresh healer. Im trying to set my bars up in an effecient way and I was wondering if you could list all of the spells that you do not have bound. I know essence font forsure but what about the melee abilities?
In solo shuffle i feel like my teammates die super fast, and LOS me a lot. Whenever that happens i have to push into the enemy team and put myself at risk of getting cc'ed (which often looses me the game) how do the rest of you guys deal with spread damage when renewing mist isnt enough? And also what to do about getting cc'ed when my team pushes in deep?
Thank you so much!! There are 2 times when I use it: 1. If you use it on someone while channeling soothing mist it’ll heal both of you. So I use it when me and my target are both taking damage 2. If you’re channeling soothing mist and your teammate outranges you or LoS you behind a pillar, you can still use it on them!
How do you get the purple and yellow smoke stuff that’s coming out of your toon when you are casting and stuff? I’m assuming it’s a toy? What about the rainbow trail too? Looks so dope lol
TY for the guide! Well done. How do i get the thingie that gives me precog and stuff?? Like where do i farm the items that i have to put in the working order. Noone says it in the guides :(. I only do arenas and dont know shit about anything else. Is there a lot of aids i have to do to get this thing? If so ill skip the season i cba doing pve.
I just lvled a monk, wawtched some high ranked people on RBG, 3v3 and so on, most of them use Haste only. I guess that's another build in general? This seems to focus on Master. What's the healing output differences?
Hi! Haste and Mastery are both good, it just depends on what type of content you are playing. In Shuffle/RBGs I would highly recommend playing Haste/Vers. You will get A TON of value out of your HoTs. In normal arena I use Vers/mastery because of how strong Mastery healing is when you have a lot of it. I hope this helps!
It feels like if you're gonna take an Expel Harm talent, Strength of Spirit seems better than Vigorous Expulsion. I only use it when I'm on the run and in danger personally. I'd like it to do something when I'm low health.
I have a panda and I like it a lot! The CC duration didn’t get reduced in 10.1. My only problem is that we will likely run Ring of Peace instead of Song of Chi-ji now because of the choice node. I also use the Mastery/Precog embellishments because it’s more passive healing. Overall though, I think panda is solid, but not as good as Orc or Night Elf/Gnome
Hey Myst, great vid again, i got a question, does the talent Tea of Serenity and Focused Thunder stack ? Seam like when i choose both talents only empowered 2 , TIA I just tried again, it only show 2 empowerer spell, not 4 ?
They do! So look at the buffs carefully. When you use TFT you’ll get a buff with 2 charges of Thunder Focus Tea and then 2 other buffs with either Renewing Mist/Enveloping Mist/Vivify. If you use one of the buffs from Tea of Serenity it won’t consume the charges of Thunder Focus Tea. You should also see which spells are empowered from Tea of Serenity because they will glow. I hope this helps!
What should I be using spark of shsdowflame on? Armorying people and I dont see any monks that have used it so Im not sure. Are the infurious boots not a good choice anymore? Thanks Mystical!
Hi! I’m kinda scared to use it because it takes 2 weeks to get another, but here is what I’m thinking: 1. I like our Tier set and will probably be using it. I want to use the pieces that have either Vers or mastery on it. So that means I will use everything except for legs, but there are Vers/Mastery PvP legs. So I probably won’t craft legs 2. This leaves either Belt, Boots, Neck, Ring, Bracers. The issue is that the PvP items will only upgrade Belt/Boots from these 4. So that leaves me with choosing between belt or boots. 3. Between belt or boots, there is Vers/mastery gear for bloody tokens for the belt. So this means the best piece would be boots. SO, I will be crafting the precog embelishment on my boots with Vers/mastery using the Spark of Shadowflame/450 PvP ilevel piece. I hope this helps! 😌
Mystical, if possible, for us who enjoy haste builds (i.e., rbg ladder) could you recommend bis talent tree, gearing/crafting for that environment? Appreciate you brother.
I like it video so much. I just came back to game after a 10 year breack, i noticed my roll is shorter then it used to be. Any tips how to make that longer?
How much better did you find mastery/vers to be? Ive just committed to crafting my big precog item as haste/vers, is it worth scrapping my haste plans and prioritizing mastery when the season starts?
From my testing, they are very similar and some Mistweavers are actually preferring haste/Vers. The issue I have with it is that the meta is fast right now and Mastery healing feels really good with your instant healing. Also with Haste you tend you run out of Mana a bit quicker than Mastery. I think for Solo Shuffle Haste/Vers is still much better I wouldn’t scrap that crafted piece because I think Haste/Vers is still very good, I just prefer Mastery. I hope this helps!
Thanks for the reply mate. I've updated my mastery set and realised after commenting that you can easily recraft your items so it's nbd fixing stats. I'm gonna try the vers mastery route as, like you said, mana has been a decider for me in more damp games
Hi! What game modes/spec are you trying to play? I have a guide for Solo Shuffle if you would like a link to that. I also have a video with all talents/builds you will need! Feel free to ask me any questions and I’ll be more than happy to answer them 😌
@@MysticallTheMonk what makes you think that they could still be good? Saw the thread on the worldofpvp sub and everybody is just rejoicing that they have been gutted. As a WW player I loved how FW was playing and was bummed to read what happened to them from the blue post. I’m sure your video will touch on this but will they even be viable in comparison to other healers while retaining their play style?
@@MysticallTheMonk do you? i think the build is dead. Of course people like you (the best monks) can use the build with skill but fist weaving isnt viable anymore. First they update "teaching" and now these nerfs we lost our damage and healing...vs classes like arms or retry is hard really. Thanks for your video, we ALL waiting for this.
when monk gets gutted , gj blizz now there good for not much within the meta , such a cool class , but blizz wants us to stand there casting our nuts off ... from blue post 06/05/23 live on the 9th :( Developers’ notes: Mistweavers have received significant Quality of Life changes throughout the last few patches that have increased their effectiveness in PvP to a point where we see them as oppressive to the viability of other specializations. We’re reducing many of the PvP multipliers associated with Ancient Teachings and their damage throughput, and we’re increasing the effectiveness of Renewing Mist to encourage Healing over Time management and reducing Vivify’s healing to keep their casting throughput relatively similar. Ancient Teachings’ effectiveness is now increased by 120% in PvP Combat (was 150%). Blackout Kick no longer deals 25% increased damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat. Blackout Kicks from Teachings of the Monastery now deal 15% reduced damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat. Tiger Palm now deals 15% increased damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat (was 30%). Rising Sun Kick’s damage reduced by 20% for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat. Vivify’s primary healing now reduced by 10% for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat. Renewing Mist’s healing increased by 40% in PvP Combat (was 25%).
one of the best guides I have seen in a long time thank you.
Thank you so much!! If you EVER have any questions, please let me know!
I don't comment on gaming videos much, but you make so much sense when you explain stuff. I am not a young man, but I have been playing WOW since 2005. I rally enjoyed MW when MOP went live and always wanted to get back into it. I am just saddened that they "nerfed" FW because I was just starting to get into playing that. Now I have to learn MW all over again, imagine that. I went back to Monk for the FW because I usually play melee and FW fit right into my playstyle. Now I die from a lvl 1 squirrel......... j/k, it was really a lvl 2. I will continue to watch your videos as I navigate the change of going from a melee to a caster. However, I do hope that FW will make it's way back to PVP. Please keep up the good work.
Really liked the video, friend. Found it very helpful. I'm looking forward to future content.
I’m glad you found it helpful! If you ever have any questions, please let me know 😌
Was waiting for this to drop ty bro
My pleasure! Let me know if you have ANY questions 😌
Ty mysticall for this guide can't wait for the next ones u talked about. Can we expect a rbg guide too please.
As a HPal main that has played Monk in the past and is now rerolling. It frustrates me how good MW is compared to HPal's obvious pit falls.
After I play my monk I have to take a break before I play any other class. It skews my perception of what I can do because it’s head and shoulders above the rest
Oh yeah. I played Hpal all last season. It blew me away how much better mistweaver monk is. It’s not even comparable
Tell me about it, I've been playing Disc Priest my entire life and it's so hard to switch back now that I hit 2.200 with the Monk
As always, ty insanely well done guide glad that im subbed for years to u :)
Just a little sidenote on the race. Personally I play voidelf, I cant tell u how many times this saved my ass of getting trained down by meelecleaves
I swapped to a MW caster main in 10.0.7 after playing rdru and disc and not particularly enjoying them. Haven't played MW since MoP. Love your videos and all the positive vibes. The essence of monk chi
Straight to the point. No bs, subbed.
What a Guide! Thanks for that :)
My pleasure, hope it was helpful!
amazing stuff, thank you for this content, it's extremely helpful
Nice guide thanks for you work :)
My pleasure! Let me know if you have any questions 😌
"Knowing how to survive and get away from people."
Yea, that's difficult in battlegrounds. Been playing BGs the last few days on my MW in prep for future solo shuffle battlegrounds and it's a bit of a pain when things are so uncoordinated and I'm targeted.
Love the mog
Thank you! 😌
Has this question already been answered? BTW great guide, I just picked up MW today and it helped alot from a fresh healer. Im trying to set my bars up in an effecient way and I was wondering if you could list all of the spells that you do not have bound. I know essence font forsure but what about the melee abilities?
In solo shuffle i feel like my teammates die super fast, and LOS me a lot. Whenever that happens i have to push into the enemy team and put myself at risk of getting cc'ed (which often looses me the game) how do the rest of you guys deal with spread damage when renewing mist isnt enough? And also what to do about getting cc'ed when my team pushes in deep?
Thanks for the video as always Mysticall! Do you see yourself doing things differently for RBGs? Are we still going Haste for RBGs?
Thank you, Master Mystical, for the this informative guide. One question: when/how do I use Expel Harm? Do I ever use it?
Thank you so much!! There are 2 times when I use it:
1. If you use it on someone while channeling soothing mist it’ll heal both of you. So I use it when me and my target are both taking damage
2. If you’re channeling soothing mist and your teammate outranges you or LoS you behind a pillar, you can still use it on them!
@@MysticallTheMonk Thanks for the response!
Did they kill fist weave?
How do you get the purple and yellow smoke stuff that’s coming out of your toon when you are casting and stuff? I’m assuming it’s a toy? What about the rainbow trail too? Looks so dope lol
TY for the guide! Well done.
How do i get the thingie that gives me precog and stuff?? Like where do i farm the items that i have to put in the working order. Noone says it in the guides :(. I only do arenas and dont know shit about anything else. Is there a lot of aids i have to do to get this thing? If so ill skip the season i cba doing pve.
I just lvled a monk, wawtched some high ranked people on RBG, 3v3 and so on, most of them use Haste only. I guess that's another build in general? This seems to focus on Master. What's the healing output differences?
Hi! Haste and Mastery are both good, it just depends on what type of content you are playing. In Shuffle/RBGs I would highly recommend playing Haste/Vers. You will get A TON of value out of your HoTs. In normal arena I use Vers/mastery because of how strong Mastery healing is when you have a lot of it. I hope this helps!
@@MysticallTheMonk Thanks for answering. Also, is your talent build suitable for haste build?
It feels like if you're gonna take an Expel Harm talent, Strength of Spirit seems better than Vigorous Expulsion. I only use it when I'm on the run and in danger personally. I'd like it to do something when I'm low health.
Hey Mys , what do you think about Panda racial ? Quaking palm replacing Song and also proc 510 stat embellishment
I have a panda and I like it a lot! The CC duration didn’t get reduced in 10.1. My only problem is that we will likely run Ring of Peace instead of Song of Chi-ji now because of the choice node. I also use the Mastery/Precog embellishments because it’s more passive healing. Overall though, I think panda is solid, but not as good as Orc or Night Elf/Gnome
thanks bro really good content
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoy it 😌
Hey Myst, great vid again, i got a question, does the talent Tea of Serenity and Focused Thunder stack ?
Seam like when i choose both talents only empowered 2 , TIA
I just tried again, it only show 2 empowerer spell, not 4 ?
They do! So look at the buffs carefully. When you use TFT you’ll get a buff with 2 charges of Thunder Focus Tea and then 2 other buffs with either Renewing Mist/Enveloping Mist/Vivify. If you use one of the buffs from Tea of Serenity it won’t consume the charges of Thunder Focus Tea. You should also see which spells are empowered from Tea of Serenity because they will glow. I hope this helps!
I just resubbed to come back to my MW, does soothing mist no longer stay casting? I have not played it in a long time. looks like 7 seconds only now
@mystical thx for the nice guide , question do u have a weakaura for then zensphere to track on enemy and mates ?
What should I be using spark of shsdowflame on? Armorying people and I dont see any monks that have used it so Im not sure. Are the infurious boots not a good choice anymore? Thanks Mystical!
Hi! I’m kinda scared to use it because it takes 2 weeks to get another, but here is what I’m thinking:
1. I like our Tier set and will probably be using it. I want to use the pieces that have either Vers or mastery on it. So that means I will use everything except for legs, but there are Vers/Mastery PvP legs. So I probably won’t craft legs
2. This leaves either Belt, Boots, Neck, Ring, Bracers. The issue is that the PvP items will only upgrade Belt/Boots from these 4. So that leaves me with choosing between belt or boots.
3. Between belt or boots, there is Vers/mastery gear for bloody tokens for the belt. So this means the best piece would be boots.
SO, I will be crafting the precog embelishment on my boots with Vers/mastery using the Spark of Shadowflame/450 PvP ilevel piece. I hope this helps! 😌
Great job sir!
Do you have a guide on escaping from being trained as a mist build? I have struggled with this. Fist builds have less issues.
Thank you
BEEN WAITING TY!!
brilliant guide, thank you. can you share your ui setup? how you get the dots to show up like that. thank you
Do you have a page with ss of your gear or skill trees.
I do! Here is a guide on Solo Shuffle: ruclips.net/video/iXPxGazouyQ/видео.html
Mystical, if possible, for us who enjoy haste builds (i.e., rbg ladder) could you recommend bis talent tree, gearing/crafting for that environment? Appreciate you brother.
I like it video so much. I just came back to game after a 10 year breack, i noticed my roll is shorter then it used to be. Any tips how to make that longer?
Thanks! So I’m guessing we need two sets of gear again? Have to run haste gear for FW?
One question: what toy do u use when u use lifecocoon(firework) 32:10
Hi! It’s called Winning Hand 😌
Hey man what is the best 450 or 447 wepon for mastery build ... staff or one hand and off hand
How much better did you find mastery/vers to be? Ive just committed to crafting my big precog item as haste/vers, is it worth scrapping my haste plans and prioritizing mastery when the season starts?
From my testing, they are very similar and some Mistweavers are actually preferring haste/Vers. The issue I have with it is that the meta is fast right now and Mastery healing feels really good with your instant healing. Also with Haste you tend you run out of Mana a bit quicker than Mastery. I think for Solo Shuffle Haste/Vers is still much better
I wouldn’t scrap that crafted piece because I think Haste/Vers is still very good, I just prefer Mastery. I hope this helps!
Thanks for the reply mate. I've updated my mastery set and realised after commenting that you can easily recraft your items so it's nbd fixing stats. I'm gonna try the vers mastery route as, like you said, mana has been a decider for me in more damp games
Thanks for vid! What is about fistweaver? Is it still playable and what stat is better for it haste or mastery?
What should you buy with conquest on the first week? I was thinking 1h weapon mastery/vers + trophy of strife off hand haste/vers?
I am a beginner any other videos you recommend for me. I leveled quickly to pvp
Hi! What game modes/spec are you trying to play? I have a guide for Solo Shuffle if you would like a link to that. I also have a video with all talents/builds you will need! Feel free to ask me any questions and I’ll be more than happy to answer them 😌
Hey Mystical, do you still sometimes play the fistweaving build? Would it still be viable or does it to much less healing?
too dogshit dont play it
Same talents for rbgs for mw???
In one of my latest videos I talk about RBG build! Mostly focused around Haste and Invoker’s Delight for the insane Haste 😌
Bro i need ur transmog what is the enchant ??
Do you think MW will be good with RET and WW?
CAN U LINK FISTWEAVER TALENTS PLS!
Thanks! can you also do Fistweaver please?
I definitely can! I saw the nerfs, but I think it could still be good
@@MysticallTheMonk what makes you think that they could still be good? Saw the thread on the worldofpvp sub and everybody is just rejoicing that they have been gutted. As a WW player I loved how FW was playing and was bummed to read what happened to them from the blue post. I’m sure your video will touch on this but will they even be viable in comparison to other healers while retaining their play style?
@@MysticallTheMonk do you? i think the build is dead. Of course people like you (the best monks) can use the build with skill but fist weaving isnt viable anymore. First they update "teaching" and now these nerfs we lost our damage and healing...vs classes like arms or retry is hard really.
Thanks for your video, we ALL waiting for this.
How do I heal as a mist weaver? 😅😂 jk jk great video as always dude
Can u do a video for how to do the crafted gear pls? Im lost
There is already multiple other videos. Look at aeghis. Precog video
bro is fistweaving dead now or?
when monk gets gutted , gj blizz now there good for not much within the meta , such a cool class , but blizz wants us to stand there casting our nuts off ...
from blue post 06/05/23 live on the 9th :(
Developers’ notes: Mistweavers have received significant Quality of Life changes throughout the last few patches that have increased their effectiveness in PvP to a point where we see them as oppressive to the viability of other specializations. We’re reducing many of the PvP multipliers associated with Ancient Teachings and their damage throughput, and we’re increasing the effectiveness of Renewing Mist to encourage Healing over Time management and reducing Vivify’s healing to keep their casting throughput relatively similar.
Ancient Teachings’ effectiveness is now increased by 120% in PvP Combat (was 150%).
Blackout Kick no longer deals 25% increased damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat.
Blackout Kicks from Teachings of the Monastery now deal 15% reduced damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat.
Tiger Palm now deals 15% increased damage for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat (was 30%).
Rising Sun Kick’s damage reduced by 20% for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat.
Vivify’s primary healing now reduced by 10% for Mistweaver Monks in PvP Combat.
Renewing Mist’s healing increased by 40% in PvP Combat (was 25%).
do you think fw will still do good
Mistweaver is trash this patch. No heals. People can burst through all your heals now.