Hey sorry for the poke here. We're considering getting 10gig internet. Should I go with cat7 or cat8 when getting wires installed in the walls? Does Cat7 get hot while under 10gig load?
Have you already bought the switches ? I like TPLink switches and they have affordable managed sfp switches. Feel free to ask me any questions Mike! Cheers my Friend!
I don't understand why CAT7 isn't IEEE certified. When I think of certifications I think of recognized. If they don't recognize CAT7 then why is there a higher number in the sucesion? Why not CAT7a?
Cat 7 isnt' even a standard. The market is flooded with "Cat 7" cables that are garbage. Cat 8 is not even rated to be use with RJ45 connectors or Keystone jacks. They are not designed for home use. Just stick with Cat 6 or 6A for now. They will be fine for any home application. Why is this not mentioned?
That's incorrect. Cat7 isn't officially recognized by some organizations and is by others. You can make the argument that the ones that matter don't recognize it, but as long as it's built to specification it does not matter. Cat8 is recognized, and is rated for 8p8c. There is a variant for that connector, and a variant for specialized connectors.
Thanks for this video. As far as future proofing in tech goes, I learned a long time back, there's no such thing for the most part. By the time you use the "future" features, there are cheaper and better products around than the janky old hardware you bought long back :) However, for house cabling I would say future proofing (CAT 8 ) would make sense, but for people doing short runs in their house/office, those cables get damaged pretty easily so better off with the cheaper cable that does the job (CAT7) :)
actually ive been running fiber lately thru the house and property. We have several out buildings and its just as cheap these days to run 10 gig fiber to them.
Cat7 and cat8 are compabile backwards with all old network equipment? I remember that when jumping from cat5 to cat6 had to replace all wall networks sockets since cat6 cable won't fin into cat5 socket
Your equipment and ISP (internet service provider) also plays a large factor in what cabling you need. Since your internet speed is not greater than 1gbps, you don't need anything bigger than Cat 6. You can also go to Cat 6e as well. However, if you foresee yourself switching ISPs or upgrading speeds, than that is a different story.
Great content as always!! Can you do something along the lines later regarding best network setup for people with a lot of smart devices/switches? I have 6 people in my house, around 70-80 devices/switches/plugs connected at any time with over 1gpbs internet speed & network switches - yet, I feel that my internet is too slow. I still haven't upgraded my lights yet (that's waiting for the tax return lolz)...
New to your channel. I just got fiber installed to my house. I figured I would just use CAT7 since I can't get more than 2.5gig anyways. Thanks for the video!
Cat7 will work great or even cat6a! It's a great feeling knowing when you upgrade to 2 or 3gig fiber that your ethernet will be able to handle it. Thanks for watching and for the great comments!
Hey, we're considering getting 10gig internet. Should I go with cat7 or cat8 when getting wires installed in the walls? Does Cat7 get hot while under 10gig load? Or should I go with Cat6e... Really cant decide.
Cat6a would work perfect. The sell cat6a wall jack plugs so it's easy to get your network setup. Cat7 and Cat8 cables are not needed for 10gig. If I had to chose it would be Cat8 over cat7. Just go with cat6a.
My home network is 500mbps i own asus rapture ax11000 im going to play ps5 online games should i connect my ps5 to a cat 7 pr cat 6 from router the ps5 ?
@@UltimateTechHub thanks for the help Bud you're awesome. There's not too many RUclipsrs that will reply back. I highly appreciate the help and the savings I'm not having to hire someone all thanks to your channel
@@EdwardDelgado-ym1hr Glad to help! And I always answer replies and questions. Good luck Edward and thank you for watching my channel! Have a great day!
I always use round if possible. Round cables are designed for longer distances and can reliably transmit data over their full rated length. Flat cables are ideal for discreet placement under carpets or along baseboards. Flat cables are also flexible and can be installed in tight spaces but they require more care during installation to avoid pinching or damaging the cable.
@@UltimateTechHub point is that people who have homes that large are extremely rare. And if they could afford that size home, they would probably opt for something like fiber. End to end it’s a football field in length. I wouldn’t even call it a home..it’s a palace!😂
@brucemc1581 I have cable runs over 100 feet in my house and it's not a mansion! Lol! Thanks for watching and for the comments it really helps thre algorithm !!!!
A suggestion for you. If you are considering going beyond 1 gigabit in the future on that cable. Do testing to make sure you are not dropping packets or getting a bunch of network jitter. On shorter runs Cat 5e is just fine. But a simple file transfer test may hide signal issues in the old cable that could cause issues for say online gaming. Especially in the future where multiple devices on the same cable may be using more than 1 gigabit. Getting two 10 gigabit cards for testing is quite expensive but even 2 cheap 2.5 gigabit cards should give you a good simulation of potential future use of the cable.
On the topic of future proofing. Even with huge advances in AI technology the chances of the average home user needing anywhere near 10 gigabits are so low to the point where "future proofing" the Ethernet cables to Cat8 or even Cat7 is just pointless. At most we will actually make use of 2.5 Gigabits to individual rooms and 10 gigabits to the internet. And the 2.5 standard works on even the rotting Cat 5e cables that have been sitting behind the walls for decades. Some will say "Well what about 8K streaming?" First of all consumers flatly rejected 8K technology because you need an 80 inch TV to even start to see the difference in the few videos that use it. Second, With modern compression even a crappy 1gigabit connection is just fine for even the most demanding 8K stream. Games are very unlikely to download more than 2.5 gigabits a second even with upgrades to the internet. By the time we actually flat out NEED beyond what Cat 6a can do. The "future proof" Cat 8 cables will have sat in the walls for decades and there is no guarantee that time will have been kind to them. Even small issues at the socket can greatly affect the quality of signal when you are talking about 10 gig and beyond. Need a high quality cable that "looks nice" connecting your modem to the router? Sure, spend the extra few bucks on a high quality Cat 8 cable (Hopefully one without a thousand fake reviews) Yet when you are talking about the amount of cable to run to each room on an average house? That is a lot of extra money to spend on a very unlikely maybe. Meanwhile 6a while more expensive than Cat 5e will give you plenty of future proofing. Besides, once we get beyond 10 gigabits for home use. There will surely be an actual home optical network cable standard. And if that is the case. Everyone will have to run the new cable anyway so might as well save the money now.
This video is just about deciding between cat7 or cat8 and its not about every ethernet cable type. I've already done a video on that subject and that video explains cat6 is plenty for 99% of homes. This was just a specific video for a specific topic. Thanks for watching and for the awesome comments. And you are correct about 8K TVs. It's not even worth the price if your eyes can barley tell the difference and since there is no 8k content to watch that means the Tvs are just upscaling from 4k to 8k. I would just buy 4k OLED and call it a day! As far as cables I only use cables from reputable dealers so no fakes. FYI my house has cat6a and some cat6 riser cable as well. My speeds are fantastic and low latency and jitter. Have a great day!
I would go with Cat6a because it's an industry standard and 10gigs is all most people need. Anything faster should be cat8 or fiber optics! Thanks for watching!
Don’t listen to this guy, Cat 8 is considered better due to its faster data transfer speed of up to 40 Gbps, which is four times faster than Cat6a, and its support for bandwidth up to 2 GHz, reducing latency for superior performance.
I've already done a video on testing all the ethernet types and I recommended cat6 for most homes. This video title is Cat7 vs Cat8 thats what its about. Thanks for watching and the comments.
Yes you can, but the max distance for maximum speeds is 30m! Lol! At 50m you won't get the 25gb to 40gb speeds or the 6000Mhz of bandwidth. You can buy a 1000ft of Cat8 if you want! Thanks for watching! 😉
Nobody should be wasting money on any cable more expensive than cat6. Even cat6a is wasted money. At the point where you want more speed than a cat 6 cable can offer, you are looking at fibre as its cheaper than these crazy expensive, and vendor insupported cat cables. Usually really good content, but this one really missed the mark.
Its a video on Cat7 versus Cat8 it's not about Cat6 or Cat6a. This is a topical video and I've already done other videos and explained cat6 is all you need for most situations. But some people want the higher end cables so this video clarifies the decision. Thanks for watching and sorry I missed the mark! Lol
Non sense, everything new item will be more faster. Example my samsung tablet andoid 9 when i buy before expensive but now slow, i buy new tablet china tablet latest android cheaper but faster. 😂😂😂.
There is 8gig what you can get in my country.. Besides putting those cables is not a fun job. So always go for the 8. The price difference is almost nothing
@eslol11 1. No the price difference is not almost nothing, not when you're running hundreds of feet of it. 2. I don't care if you can get 8gig in your country, facts are less than 1% of people will use that. 3. by time the majority of people decide to get net that's fast enough to utilize this cable, there will be a cat 15 already.
The video title is Cat7 vs Cat8. I've done videos on on cable types and tested them all and cat6 is my recommendation for most homes. But this video is deciding between cat7 or cat8. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I use Cat 7 for my 10gig home network.
Hey sorry for the poke here. We're considering getting 10gig internet. Should I go with cat7 or cat8 when getting wires installed in the walls? Does Cat7 get hot while under 10gig load?
If future proofing is your highest priority, you'll be deploying fibre, not copper (unless you're deploying wifi or other PoE equipment)
Fiber has its uses but for most home uses it's more trouble than it's worth and at the distances used copper has lower latency
Great video like always! I'm using Cat7 for my Home Network!
How about a sfp video mike? I am trying to link two switches between rooms what is the best option for this?
Have you already bought the switches ? I like TPLink switches and they have affordable managed sfp switches. Feel free to ask me any questions Mike! Cheers my Friend!
Cat 8 has more cats for your buck !
Great video, thanks for sharing Vegas Mike !
I don't understand why CAT7 isn't IEEE certified. When I think of certifications I think of recognized. If they don't recognize CAT7 then why is there a higher number in the sucesion? Why not CAT7a?
Cat 7 isnt' even a standard. The market is flooded with "Cat 7" cables that are garbage. Cat 8 is not even rated to be use with RJ45 connectors or Keystone jacks. They are not designed for home use. Just stick with Cat 6 or 6A for now. They will be fine for any home application. Why is this not mentioned?
The video title is....Cat7 versus Cat8. The first sentence of the video explains context of the video. Thanks for watching and for commenting !
That's incorrect. Cat7 isn't officially recognized by some organizations and is by others. You can make the argument that the ones that matter don't recognize it, but as long as it's built to specification it does not matter.
Cat8 is recognized, and is rated for 8p8c. There is a variant for that connector, and a variant for specialized connectors.
Yeah, this channel is a joke
But bro if your Internet is bad like mine USE CAT 8
Thanks for this video. As far as future proofing in tech goes, I learned a long time back, there's no such thing for the most part. By the time you use the "future" features, there are cheaper and better products around than the janky old hardware you bought long back :) However, for house cabling I would say future proofing (CAT 8 ) would make sense, but for people doing short runs in their house/office, those cables get damaged pretty easily so better off with the cheaper cable that does the job (CAT7) :)
@1nfiniteloop I agree 100 percent. Check out this video, you will probably like it too.
ruclips.net/video/gXZXQc2qIxQ/видео.htmlsi=KJ1Y074m_4h4sW1B
CAT 8 THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!
actually ive been running fiber lately thru the house and property. We have several out buildings and its just as cheap these days to run 10 gig fiber to them.
The existing RJ45 sockets ans plugs are only for Cat 6a designd. That is a bottle neck. All components shoud proof for cat7 and higher.
Cat7 and cat8 are compabile backwards with all old network equipment? I remember that when jumping from cat5 to cat6 had to replace all wall networks sockets since cat6 cable won't fin into cat5 socket
They are backwards compatible. That is why I would always go with 8. Because pulling cables is not a very fun job.. 😅
Yes pulling cables in a pain in the rear! Lol! Cat8 is great! 😉
Honestly Cat6 is all you need unless you magically get 1Gbps constant (I live in Scotland we'll get it in 500 years...)
I'm using the Wifi7 router which can support up to 10Gbps speed!
My home network is 70mbps internet connection. My motherboard support 2.5gbps lan port. Should i use Cat 8 or Cat 6? My main priority is Gaming.
Cat6
@@UltimateTechHub thanks ❤️
@@UltimateTechHub will i get full support with Cat6 cable from 70mbps internet connection? Or need Cat7?
@@SingerTV-b3d yes cat6 is all you need.
Your equipment and ISP (internet service provider) also plays a large factor in what cabling you need. Since your internet speed is not greater than 1gbps, you don't need anything bigger than Cat 6. You can also go to Cat 6e as well. However, if you foresee yourself switching ISPs or upgrading speeds, than that is a different story.
Great content as always!! Can you do something along the lines later regarding best network setup for people with a lot of smart devices/switches? I have 6 people in my house, around 70-80 devices/switches/plugs connected at any time with over 1gpbs internet speed & network switches - yet, I feel that my internet is too slow. I still haven't upgraded my lights yet (that's waiting for the tax return lolz)...
Hey brother, want to come out to WV and show us how it's done as far as really installing ethernet at home?
That's too far from Las Vegas! Lol!
@@UltimateTechHubhaha fair. Ask not, get not. Thanks for your videos. I will argue it's worth the trip, though!
New to your channel. I just got fiber installed to my house. I figured I would just use CAT7 since I can't get more than 2.5gig anyways. Thanks for the video!
Cat7 will work great or even cat6a! It's a great feeling knowing when you upgrade to 2 or 3gig fiber that your ethernet will be able to handle it. Thanks for watching and for the great comments!
Hey, we're considering getting 10gig internet. Should I go with cat7 or cat8 when getting wires installed in the walls? Does Cat7 get hot while under 10gig load? Or should I go with Cat6e... Really cant decide.
Cat6a would work perfect. The sell cat6a wall jack plugs so it's easy to get your network setup. Cat7 and Cat8 cables are not needed for 10gig. If I had to chose it would be Cat8 over cat7. Just go with cat6a.
@@UltimateTechHub Thanks!
My home network is 500mbps i own asus rapture ax11000 im going to play ps5 online games should i connect my ps5 to a cat 7 pr cat 6 from router the ps5 ?
@@abyssa1840 Cat6 is plenty for 500mbps. That's a nice router. Thanks for watching.
Thank you very much for the video 😀
Your welcome Bodie and thank you for watching! 😀
What's the distance I can run cat 6 . I'm looking at a distance of 120 ft to my shop for a second router
328 feet! And you can run 10gig at up to 165 feet. Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub thanks for the help Bud you're awesome. There's not too many RUclipsrs that will reply back. I highly appreciate the help and the savings I'm not having to hire someone all thanks to your channel
@@EdwardDelgado-ym1hr Glad to help! And I always answer replies and questions. Good luck Edward and thank you for watching my channel! Have a great day!
Flat or round for distances of more than 25 ft?
I always use round if possible. Round cables are designed for longer distances and can reliably transmit data over their full rated length. Flat cables are ideal for discreet placement under carpets or along baseboards. Flat cables are also flexible and can be installed in tight spaces but they require more care during installation to avoid pinching or damaging the cable.
Bro that test was not “minimal” that was an almost 30% decrease in jitter, which is HUGE.
Cat8 is better in every way. For the marginal difference in price you should just always go with Cat8.
Who needs 100 continuous meters of any cabling in a home?
A very large home or going from indoor to outdoor or in a business environment. Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub point is that people who have homes that large are extremely rare. And if they could afford that size home, they would probably opt for something like fiber. End to end it’s a football field in length. I wouldn’t even call it a home..it’s a palace!😂
@brucemc1581 I have cable runs over 100 feet in my house and it's not a mansion! Lol! Thanks for watching and for the comments it really helps thre algorithm !!!!
@@UltimateTechHub so do I, but 100 ft is 30ish meters, not even close to 100 meters.
Is it necessary to get cat7 to my 90 square meters home? maybe 6a it is better, what you recommend? Good video
Cat6a would work great for 90 square meters. Thank you for watching!
Me doing just fine using CAT 5e
95% of Homes will do just fine with Cat5e or Cat6. Thank you for watching.
@@UltimateTechHub thank you, no problem
A suggestion for you. If you are considering going beyond 1 gigabit in the future on that cable. Do testing to make sure you are not dropping packets or getting a bunch of network jitter. On shorter runs Cat 5e is just fine. But a simple file transfer test may hide signal issues in the old cable that could cause issues for say online gaming. Especially in the future where multiple devices on the same cable may be using more than 1 gigabit. Getting two 10 gigabit cards for testing is quite expensive but even 2 cheap 2.5 gigabit cards should give you a good simulation of potential future use of the cable.
Makes sense cat 7 for almkst all applacation unless you are running a insane home server
On the topic of future proofing. Even with huge advances in AI technology the chances of the average home user needing anywhere near 10 gigabits are so low to the point where "future proofing" the Ethernet cables to Cat8 or even Cat7 is just pointless. At most we will actually make use of 2.5 Gigabits to individual rooms and 10 gigabits to the internet. And the 2.5 standard works on even the rotting Cat 5e cables that have been sitting behind the walls for decades. Some will say "Well what about 8K streaming?" First of all consumers flatly rejected 8K technology because you need an 80 inch TV to even start to see the difference in the few videos that use it. Second, With modern compression even a crappy 1gigabit connection is just fine for even the most demanding 8K stream. Games are very unlikely to download more than 2.5 gigabits a second even with upgrades to the internet. By the time we actually flat out NEED beyond what Cat 6a can do. The "future proof" Cat 8 cables will have sat in the walls for decades and there is no guarantee that time will have been kind to them. Even small issues at the socket can greatly affect the quality of signal when you are talking about 10 gig and beyond.
Need a high quality cable that "looks nice" connecting your modem to the router? Sure, spend the extra few bucks on a high quality Cat 8 cable (Hopefully one without a thousand fake reviews) Yet when you are talking about the amount of cable to run to each room on an average house? That is a lot of extra money to spend on a very unlikely maybe. Meanwhile 6a while more expensive than Cat 5e will give you plenty of future proofing. Besides, once we get beyond 10 gigabits for home use. There will surely be an actual home optical network cable standard. And if that is the case. Everyone will have to run the new cable anyway so might as well save the money now.
This video is just about deciding between cat7 or cat8 and its not about every ethernet cable type. I've already done a video on that subject and that video explains cat6 is plenty for 99% of homes. This was just a specific video for a specific topic. Thanks for watching and for the awesome comments. And you are correct about 8K TVs. It's not even worth the price if your eyes can barley tell the difference and since there is no 8k content to watch that means the Tvs are just upscaling from 4k to 8k. I would just buy 4k OLED and call it a day! As far as cables I only use cables from reputable dealers so no fakes. FYI my house has cat6a and some cat6 riser cable as well. My speeds are fantastic and low latency and jitter. Have a great day!
I didn’t even know there was a cat8! Is this actually a thing then?
@@Circadianic Here's a video i did on Cat8. ruclips.net/video/Cb60r35yvzE/видео.htmlsi=Dsi4mqUU7sLd1emm
One question please, what about cat 6A vs cat 7 ?
I would go with Cat6a because it's an industry standard and 10gigs is all most people need. Anything faster should be cat8 or fiber optics! Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub Thanks
Cat5e.
I think I forgot things I knew after watching this video
cat 8 for my network.
Future-Proofing is a great idea! Thank you for watching!
Don’t listen to this guy, Cat 8 is considered better due to its faster data transfer speed of up to 40 Gbps, which is four times faster than Cat6a, and its support for bandwidth up to 2 GHz, reducing latency for superior performance.
Thanks for watching and for commenting!
Skip bayless?
That's a first! I don't know about that. I'm not a fan of Skip Baseless! Maybe Brad Pitt? Lol! Thanks for watching!
Stop wasting money on network cables. A proper cat6 FTP cable is more than enough for any home. Can even do 10gb speeds if you're that fancy.
I've already done a video on testing all the ethernet types and I recommended cat6 for most homes. This video title is Cat7 vs Cat8 thats what its about. Thanks for watching and the comments.
@@UltimateTechHubCat 6 or 6A?
@@saravanannagayah6492 Short cable run cat6, long cable run Cat6a.
@@UltimateTechHub How about 10M long cable?
@saravanannagayah6492 At 32ft Cat6 is plenty.
False you can get a cat 8 cable 50m
Yes you can, but the max distance for maximum speeds is 30m! Lol! At 50m you won't get the 25gb to 40gb speeds or the 6000Mhz of bandwidth. You can buy a 1000ft of Cat8 if you want! Thanks for watching! 😉
Nobody should be wasting money on any cable more expensive than cat6. Even cat6a is wasted money. At the point where you want more speed than a cat 6 cable can offer, you are looking at fibre as its cheaper than these crazy expensive, and vendor insupported cat cables. Usually really good content, but this one really missed the mark.
Its a video on Cat7 versus Cat8 it's not about Cat6 or Cat6a. This is a topical video and I've already done other videos and explained cat6 is all you need for most situations. But some people want the higher end cables so this video clarifies the decision. Thanks for watching and sorry I missed the mark! Lol
Non sense, everything new item will be more faster. Example my samsung tablet andoid 9 when i buy before expensive but now slow, i buy new tablet china tablet latest android cheaper but faster. 😂😂😂.
Answer: Cat 5. Most people aren't using internet that's more than 1000Mbps, so there's ZERO NEED to get the more expensive cables.
There is 8gig what you can get in my country.. Besides putting those cables is not a fun job. So always go for the 8. The price difference is almost nothing
@eslol11 1. No the price difference is not almost nothing, not when you're running hundreds of feet of it.
2. I don't care if you can get 8gig in your country, facts are less than 1% of people will use that.
3. by time the majority of people decide to get net that's fast enough to utilize this cable, there will be a cat 15 already.
The video title is Cat7 vs Cat8. I've done videos on on cable types and tested them all and cat6 is my recommendation for most homes. But this video is deciding between cat7 or cat8. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@UltimateTechHub Yea and its a false choice, because virtually no one has use for either of these cables.
@shawnpitman876 ok well thanks for watching my video and thanks for the comments they are fantastic for the algorithm !!!!