Spot on. I had COVID last year (Delta variant, despite being double vaccinated) and soon discovered I couldn't run at all without my HR immediately spiking to Zone 5. I stopped running for 1 month, then spent 2 more months running low mileage in Zone 1 or 2 (doing my best to ignore the slow pace). Then one day, I was suddenly back to normal. I slowly increased back into my pre-COVID training plan, and a few months later I smashed my half marathon PR. The recovery was agonizingly slow, but 6 months after COVID I was faster than ever. Thanks for the video, nice to know there are other runners sharing the same experience.
Same with with me. Didn't run for 2 months after covid, I had mild symptoms but just figured taking a break would do me good. My second week back to running and I'm finding I really need to take it easy and be aware of my heart rate.
Clear, concise, and well researched. I'm constantly telling my friends who were hit hard by covid to take it easy coming back, let their body dictate what it's ready for. I have 2 friends that tried to rush back to their normal training after, and wound up with severe lung issues. What you said about covid basically being a short blip in our life's timeline is so true.
That’s exactly what happened to me post vaccine, my HR was off the chart for about 2 months every time I tried to run my normal pace then all of a sudden it was back to almost normal. My pace is still a bit slower by about 20-30 seconds per k but improving very quickly. My V02 max has come back up by about 4 points and I can push on my speed repeat’s again. Thanks for addressing this, I am a cardiovascular sonographer and I can say that I have received a lot of referrals for post vaccine chest pain in mostly very fit men between the ages of ~30-45 who are endurance primary athletes (runners and triathletes). It’s a real problem and it needs to be addressed publicly.
Thanks for the objective sharing of data and experiences in this video and the real world applicable training recommendations. I never had COVID, but after each of the 3 vaccine doses I received (2 Moderna, 1 Pfizer booster), I had fairly severe side effects/symptoms each time that most definitely affected my running/training. I definitely experienced elevated heartrate and fatigue for a couple days after each shot, but what surprised me most was that I also experienced fairly severe joint and muscle pain for many weeks after each shot. After my second shot, I was unable to run without hip, knee, and back pain for a little over 6 weeks, it was a disappointing setback to my training to have to stop training normally for so long, but I did eventually recover and get back to my pre-vaccination fitness. It's reassuring to finally be hearing from others that I'm not the only person experiencing side effects for that long of a time frame, most people I've shared my experience with have dismissed my experience as it didn't align with their experiences.
Our local school district will not medically clear student athletes who have received any of the COVID vaccines unless they submit blood work and an echocardiogram in order to rule out potential heart damage.
My doctor tells me every single check up NOT to get the Covid vax and that his younger adult patients are getting blood clots and heart problems from it. He has told me since the beginning that it’s not safe.
This is such a helpful video, thank you! My stress levels, particularly overnight, have increased and my HRV & RHR have tanked since getting a mild cold mid-December. I don't want to risk Long Covid by getting back to my 20K trail runs. Some of the comments on here are also a good guide on how I should proceed, slow and cautiously.
Thank you - you always create informative videos. Currently infected with thankfully mild COVID, desperate to go out running again. This is brilliant advice about looking after yourself and studying your heart rate post-COVID. Knowing myself, I would have been impatient and gone quickly into high intensity stuff but I will be smarter about it thanks to your video.
This makes so much sense to me. Had the delta variant in September 21, followed by long covid for at least 3 months. 6 months on though, I'm still struggling to keep my HR under my MAF rate and having lots of energy problems. I was beginning to wonder if there was something else wrong with me, but this has given me hope that I will get back to where i was at some point. Slow....but just not this slow 🙂
Good day, how is your progress going so far? After double covid - december, february I still finding myself unable to run in higher paces without ending up total exahustion afterwards (dizziness, shakiness in limbs). Keeping my running pace in zone 1 and 2 (around 130-140 bpm) helps me to avoid these after run sympthons, yet my speed is around 7:30 per kilometer (in contrast with 4:10 before covid). The slowness of a whole recovery is really mentally taxating.
@@craigjohnston8235 sorry Craig - only just seen this. I'm generally struggling with illness/bad back etc so not got back to running at all. I've literally started back on the strength classes this week and am going to get plenty of yoga in as my flexibility has also suffered. Looking at getting back to some running hopefully in Feb. How are you doing?
14 days after testing positive my running heart rate is 10 to 20 bpm higher for the same run. I don't feel any different though. My heart rate when running has always been more than "max" for my age.
This is such a great video, very well informed. As someone who is 16months in with Long Covid, and currently in my 2nd Covid infection this is something I’ve been trying to tell my friends about exercise. Some really try to rush the healing process, which can make it worse. Take time to heal and get better before trying to run. I still can’t run a continuous 5K (before 2nd infection).
Wonderful advice, I’ve had long covid for 15months. I couldn’t run for a long time but I am getting back now. I have to take longer rest/recovery between runs.
I had COVID in October 2021 and it took me about 4 months to get my cardio back. Still haven't regained full strength. It was extremely slow progress at first. Great video. Thanks for trying to help and better people.
Thank you for the video. More time passed and I have a question, maybe on your further experience over time especially with long covids. Looks like I had COVID last summer (in 2022, but all tests were negative), it was like one week of a little bit more intense flu and then suddenly it was entirely gone. However, it totally ruined my condition and my regular tempo slowed like more than 1m30s per km. I was never a fast runner (5:30/km for 10km run is my PB), but after that I had to walk almost all the time to keep my HR low (Z2). The thing is that gradually I was able to get at least close to my condition before, but during the start of the winter I had cold just for a day or two and it "reset" my condition back to 0. After 2 months I was almost there again, another 1 day cold and my condition is again lost. I don't understand it, it's like working 2-3 months, gradually improving bit by bit, generally feeling good and then after 1 bad day (maybe cold or any minor day-to-day sickness) my body simply resigns and I'm at the beginning. It's not just a temporary slowdown, it's not that I need a week for recovery, it's literally full reset of my condition. It's very frustrating, starting over and over with the Zone 2 runs with tempo around 7 up to 7:50 (!) per km while I know I should be much better now. I'm still only 32, no weight issues, no other health problems at all so I don't understand what's wrong...
Thanks for making this video. I am in this situation right now. Started feeling sick 2 weeks ago, rapid test and pcr confirmed i had covid. Mild symptoms, headache and little fever with blocked nose for a couple days, then just not much at all until Easter Sunday when i tested negative on the rapid test. My energy level are still low and my Garmin Fenix 6X knows that as well as my resting HR being around 8 bpm higher. I tried going for a 40 min easy run today and whereas i could previously run at under 6min/km before at around 140bpm, now my heart rate goes up to 160 very easily and my pace is still a minute off. I hope i can get back to normal fitness soon. I came back home after 10 mins today as i was both disappointed and concerned. I will try and take it easy for some time. Cheers.
@@Br4tWur5t91 Generally speaking i am ok, i try and run a bit less at the moment until i feel completely fine. My running is about 80% compared to pre-covid. Also, it doesn't help that i am busy and it's flu and cold season. It takes time, i'll get there eventually. I hope you are doing well too :)
@@giodc8599 oh man, Hope you are back sooner then later! Im doing ok, but im struggling with my heartrate. As a 3hr marathoner it is very frustrating to run that slow again, but we will get there again 🤞
Great timing. Had my booster (Pfizer) in Jan (felt no side effect), took a day off then continued running. But caught the Omicron mid-Feb (only flu like symptoms). Until today i haven't regained the fitness, not sure if it's due to Covid itself or just from 2 weeks of self isolation/zero exercise.
Im 50 years old and i compete in cycling time trials and i cycle 100 miles a day 3 times a week. I got covid Omicron im on day 11 still not recovered sore throat tight chest headache and tummy pain my resting heart rate in the morning is under 50 since i had covid it is over 70 been like this for 11 days.
That's interesting, most of my unvax friends did not have any issues with excercise post covid. But 2 of my vaxed friends did. It would be interesting to see the difference in the rates of this unvax vs vax. And the effects in both groups post covid infection.
Most the people in my Squad got covid. It affected all of them for about 1/2 months after with a Lot of inconsistency, which I think is down to the fatigue / Not taking enough time Off before going Back to running
I had Covid, mild case but I was vaccinated. Post recovery I had to start all over again with running. As of today, 5 months later, my heart rate is still very high with running. Very frustrating because I’m training for a half marathon.
May be, after vaccination, vaccinated shoulder must not be moved some hours to avoid blood or lymphatic spread of lyposomes with mARN. Even using a scarf upper the neck ,to sustain forearm, like after shoulder luxation can be useful.
I got the booster vaccine back in January and did a workout despite feeling flu-like symptoms (clearly from the vaccine) and did ok. So I guess it just depends on each person.
I had Covid-19 back in 2020 but have remained unvaccinated. I’m still able to maintain my current pace without any problems whatsoever. However my employer is requiring me to be fully vaccinated and I really don’t want to risk anything since I already survived Covid and it’s already been 2 years.
I wish I watch this a bit sooner. I think I may of went too hard but now I am going to take it easier. (bike uphill to a job site yesterday) I will keep my heart rate down more for the next couple of weeks. Its been a month since I got Covid. Not sure how many times is too much to cuz lasting effects on your heart and lungs.
I’ve gotten all 3 shots. After the last one I had symptoms for about a day and ran a threshold the next day. It was pretty difficult but I felt fine and still feel fine. I’m probably lucky to an extent, but you could also argue getting the shot prevented me from having a more severe covid case further down the line which could have really done a number on my training.
Was sick like hell for 2,5 weeks, Lungs are so poor, but have done a few jogs, 5km 30 minutes. Tried one minute today at 4 min speed. My pulse was 204 after that tiny minute. 48 years old, should I be worried?
In my area of Scotland I have noticed a lot of people having heart attacks and strokes after getting the vaccine even in normal health people my age of 70yr old I didn't get the vaccine my immune system works just fine
@@eaholder9772ikes! Glad you stood firm. It was crazy to watch people around me fall for the scam. They will be customers of pharma the rest of their lives. That was pharma's intention.
Spot on. I had COVID last year (Delta variant, despite being double vaccinated) and soon discovered I couldn't run at all without my HR immediately spiking to Zone 5. I stopped running for 1 month, then spent 2 more months running low mileage in Zone 1 or 2 (doing my best to ignore the slow pace). Then one day, I was suddenly back to normal. I slowly increased back into my pre-COVID training plan, and a few months later I smashed my half marathon PR. The recovery was agonizingly slow, but 6 months after COVID I was faster than ever. Thanks for the video, nice to know there are other runners sharing the same experience.
This gives me hope, been the same since having covid. HR just mega high 😭 glad you're back to your best 💪
Same with with me. Didn't run for 2 months after covid, I had mild symptoms but just figured taking a break would do me good. My second week back to running and I'm finding I really need to take it easy and be aware of my heart rate.
@Tim Howard I never had Covid but severe reactions from 2nd jab. My resting pulse was 120-135. After almost 7 months, it is finally down to 80 bpm
I got Covid 4 months ago and my z2 pace has gone from 8.30 mile to 11 min mile. 5 k pace gone from 19.30 to 27 minutes. This is torture.
Prove that there is any test invented to differentiate covid variants?
Clear, concise, and well researched. I'm constantly telling my friends who were hit hard by covid to take it easy coming back, let their body dictate what it's ready for. I have 2 friends that tried to rush back to their normal training after, and wound up with severe lung issues. What you said about covid basically being a short blip in our life's timeline is so true.
I was lucky, I trained through it other than a few days...HR never changed
This is a lot of good information that I haven't seen being presented elsewhere! Thank you
That’s exactly what happened to me post vaccine, my HR was off the chart for about 2 months every time I tried to run my normal pace then all of a sudden it was back to almost normal. My pace is still a bit slower by about 20-30 seconds per k but improving very quickly. My V02 max has come back up by about 4 points and I can push on my speed repeat’s again. Thanks for addressing this, I am a cardiovascular sonographer and I can say that I have received a lot of referrals for post vaccine chest pain in mostly very fit men between the ages of ~30-45 who are endurance primary athletes (runners and triathletes). It’s a real problem and it needs to be addressed publicly.
@Kyle Forster me too. Never had Covid, but bad reaction to 2nd jab. Resting pulse was 120-135. After almost 7 months, now down to 80
yeah I had the chest pain for months as well, the one day it just disappeared!?!? did you ever find out what was causing the pains in these patients??
Thanks for the objective sharing of data and experiences in this video and the real world applicable training recommendations. I never had COVID, but after each of the 3 vaccine doses I received (2 Moderna, 1 Pfizer booster), I had fairly severe side effects/symptoms each time that most definitely affected my running/training. I definitely experienced elevated heartrate and fatigue for a couple days after each shot, but what surprised me most was that I also experienced fairly severe joint and muscle pain for many weeks after each shot. After my second shot, I was unable to run without hip, knee, and back pain for a little over 6 weeks, it was a disappointing setback to my training to have to stop training normally for so long, but I did eventually recover and get back to my pre-vaccination fitness. It's reassuring to finally be hearing from others that I'm not the only person experiencing side effects for that long of a time frame, most people I've shared my experience with have dismissed my experience as it didn't align with their experiences.
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Our local school district will not medically clear student athletes who have received any of the COVID vaccines unless they submit blood work and an echocardiogram in order to rule out potential heart damage.
State?
My doctor tells me every single check up NOT to get the Covid vax and that his younger adult patients are getting blood clots and heart problems from it. He has told me since the beginning that it’s not safe.
That's a good measure, considering all the issues to young people with these experimental medicines.
This is such a helpful video, thank you! My stress levels, particularly overnight, have increased and my HRV & RHR have tanked since getting a mild cold mid-December. I don't want to risk Long Covid by getting back to my 20K trail runs. Some of the comments on here are also a good guide on how I should proceed, slow and cautiously.
Thank you - you always create informative videos. Currently infected with thankfully mild COVID, desperate to go out running again. This is brilliant advice about looking after yourself and studying your heart rate post-COVID. Knowing myself, I would have been impatient and gone quickly into high intensity stuff but I will be smarter about it thanks to your video.
This makes so much sense to me. Had the delta variant in September 21, followed by long covid for at least 3 months. 6 months on though, I'm still struggling to keep my HR under my MAF rate and having lots of energy problems. I was beginning to wonder if there was something else wrong with me, but this has given me hope that I will get back to where i was at some point. Slow....but just not this slow 🙂
Good day, how is your progress going so far? After double covid - december, february I still finding myself unable to run in higher paces without ending up total exahustion afterwards (dizziness, shakiness in limbs). Keeping my running pace in zone 1 and 2 (around 130-140 bpm) helps me to avoid these after run sympthons, yet my speed is around 7:30 per kilometer (in contrast with 4:10 before covid). The slowness of a whole recovery is really mentally taxating.
How are both of you getting on? I have Covid 4 months ago and really struggling still. Slow pace and get tired after 4 miles and I run ultras
@@craigjohnston8235 sorry Craig - only just seen this. I'm generally struggling with illness/bad back etc so not got back to running at all. I've literally started back on the strength classes this week and am going to get plenty of yoga in as my flexibility has also suffered. Looking at getting back to some running hopefully in Feb. How are you doing?
I had covid and coach told me to lay off running for six weeks. He said if I did not listen it would take 2 years. I listened
14 days after testing positive my running heart rate is 10 to 20 bpm higher for the same run. I don't feel any different though. My heart rate when running has always been more than "max" for my age.
This is such a great video, very well informed. As someone who is 16months in with Long Covid, and currently in my 2nd Covid infection this is something I’ve been trying to tell my friends about exercise. Some really try to rush the healing process, which can make it worse. Take time to heal and get better before trying to run. I still can’t run a continuous 5K (before 2nd infection).
A mild case did not effect my training at all. I was fine in a few days. Without the shot.
Wonderful advice, I’ve had long covid for 15months. I couldn’t run for a long time but I am getting back now. I have to take longer rest/recovery between runs.
Thanks - very timely as I got Covid 3 days ago and still under the weather. Will take it slow when I start running again, hopefully in a week.
Studies show the average is 78 days before HR returns to normal following COVID.
I had COVID in October 2021 and it took me about 4 months to get my cardio back. Still haven't regained full strength. It was extremely slow progress at first.
Great video. Thanks for trying to help and better people.
Thank you for the video. More time passed and I have a question, maybe on your further experience over time especially with long covids. Looks like I had COVID last summer (in 2022, but all tests were negative), it was like one week of a little bit more intense flu and then suddenly it was entirely gone. However, it totally ruined my condition and my regular tempo slowed like more than 1m30s per km. I was never a fast runner (5:30/km for 10km run is my PB), but after that I had to walk almost all the time to keep my HR low (Z2). The thing is that gradually I was able to get at least close to my condition before, but during the start of the winter I had cold just for a day or two and it "reset" my condition back to 0. After 2 months I was almost there again, another 1 day cold and my condition is again lost. I don't understand it, it's like working 2-3 months, gradually improving bit by bit, generally feeling good and then after 1 bad day (maybe cold or any minor day-to-day sickness) my body simply resigns and I'm at the beginning. It's not just a temporary slowdown, it's not that I need a week for recovery, it's literally full reset of my condition. It's very frustrating, starting over and over with the Zone 2 runs with tempo around 7 up to 7:50 (!) per km while I know I should be much better now. I'm still only 32, no weight issues, no other health problems at all so I don't understand what's wrong...
Thanks for making this video. I am in this situation right now.
Started feeling sick 2 weeks ago, rapid test and pcr confirmed i had covid. Mild symptoms, headache and little fever with blocked nose for a couple days, then just not much at all until Easter Sunday when i tested negative on the rapid test. My energy level are still low and my Garmin Fenix 6X knows that as well as my resting HR being around 8 bpm higher.
I tried going for a 40 min easy run today and whereas i could previously run at under 6min/km before at around 140bpm, now my heart rate goes up to 160 very easily and my pace is still a minute off. I hope i can get back to normal fitness soon. I came back home after 10 mins today as i was both disappointed and concerned. I will try and take it easy for some time. Cheers.
Im sitting in the same boat right now. How do you feel today? Hope you are fine again!
@@Br4tWur5t91 Generally speaking i am ok, i try and run a bit less at the moment until i feel completely fine. My running is about 80% compared to pre-covid. Also, it doesn't help that i am busy and it's flu and cold season. It takes time, i'll get there eventually. I hope you are doing well too :)
@@giodc8599 oh man, Hope you are back sooner then later! Im doing ok, but im struggling with my heartrate. As a 3hr marathoner it is very frustrating to run that slow again, but we will get there again 🤞
Great timing. Had my booster (Pfizer) in Jan (felt no side effect), took a day off then continued running. But caught the Omicron mid-Feb (only flu like symptoms). Until today i haven't regained the fitness, not sure if it's due to Covid itself or just from 2 weeks of self isolation/zero exercise.
It’s the jab , do some research not msm
It's due to vaccine with covid on too of that.
Or the vaccine?
Im 50 years old and i compete in cycling time trials and i cycle 100 miles a day 3 times a week. I got covid Omicron im on day 11 still not recovered sore throat tight chest headache and tummy pain my resting heart rate in the morning is under 50 since i had covid it is over 70 been like this for 11 days.
That's interesting, most of my unvax friends did not have any issues with excercise post covid. But 2 of my vaxed friends did. It would be interesting to see the difference in the rates of this unvax vs vax. And the effects in both groups post covid infection.
Most the people in my Squad got covid. It affected all of them for about 1/2 months after with a Lot of inconsistency, which I think is down to the fatigue / Not taking enough time Off before going Back to running
Excellent explanation!!
I had Covid, mild case but I was vaccinated. Post recovery I had to start all over again with running. As of today, 5 months later, my heart rate is still very high with running. Very frustrating because I’m training for a half marathon.
Maybe aim for a 10km to ease back into it?
Had covid and was ill for 3 weeks . Took me about 3 weeks after illness to get my exercise heart rate back to normal levels. (unvaxxed)
Good sharing as usual...
May be, after vaccination, vaccinated shoulder must not be moved some hours to avoid blood or lymphatic spread of lyposomes with mARN.
Even using a scarf upper the neck ,to sustain forearm, like after shoulder luxation can be useful.
Really interesting thanks you
What’s a good tracking device or smart watch for monitoring heart rate in real time? I tried garmin but it’s too complicated for me 🙈
I got the booster vaccine back in January and did a workout despite feeling flu-like symptoms (clearly from the vaccine) and did ok. So I guess it just depends on each person.
I had Covid-19 back in 2020 but have remained unvaccinated. I’m still able to maintain my current pace without any problems whatsoever. However my employer is requiring me to be fully vaccinated and I really don’t want to risk anything since I already survived Covid and it’s already been 2 years.
15 minutes in zone 2 on the trainer and my HR was 171. I stopped. This sucks.
After second time with Covid, no symptoms the last 2 weeks.
I wish I watch this a bit sooner. I think I may of went too hard but now I am going to take it easier. (bike uphill to a job site yesterday) I will keep my heart rate down more for the next couple of weeks. Its been a month since I got Covid. Not sure how many times is too much to cuz lasting effects on your heart and lungs.
I’ve gotten all 3 shots. After the last one I had symptoms for about a day and ran a threshold the next day. It was pretty difficult but I felt fine and still feel fine. I’m probably lucky to an extent, but you could also argue getting the shot prevented me from having a more severe covid case further down the line which could have really done a number on my training.
Get a 4th for the sake of experimenting
Funny that all the jabbed getting ill after the jabs , all the unjabbed , all healthy mmm funny that , what’s the 🐘 in the room 👉💉💉
Was sick like hell for 2,5 weeks, Lungs are so poor, but have done a few jogs, 5km 30 minutes. Tried one minute today at 4 min speed. My pulse was 204 after that tiny minute. 48 years old, should I be worried?
In my area of Scotland I have noticed a lot of people having heart attacks and strokes after getting the vaccine even in normal health people my age of 70yr old I didn't get the vaccine my immune system works just fine
Yep that's what I have been seeing in the funeral home especially after the 3rd shot.
Also I just did my first run post covid and after a slow run I felt breathless and mild strain in my throat. Is that something to be worried about?
Grateful not to have gotten covid nor been vaccinated. Good health goes a long way.
my legs dont feel right, i have no stamina, i can cycle for 2 hours, but i cannot run anymore. 3 covid vacinations and had covid last february
You never had a vaccination for anything, the clue is you having 3 of them
All you people took that shot? Sheesh, no wonder there is so much heart and blood clot problems lately.
I did not thank goodness. All family who took it have all got respiratory a d heart problems at moment
@@eaholder9772ikes! Glad you stood firm. It was crazy to watch people around me fall for the scam. They will be customers of pharma the rest of their lives. That was pharma's intention.