worse. gameplay is unbalanced in a way that's somehow worse feeling than DaD, ai is completely incapable, stats are overly simplified, models are buggy, maps are too huge. it's got a lot of potential but there's a LOT of work left to do
@user-lm6tv5fk8v bro what no way dark and darker is UE 5 and looks this badXDD im not a hater, im lvl 60 bard, i like both but dungeonborne is better than dark and darker in everything except mechanics variations. dark and darker has lots of different classes with very different and cool mechanics, and edungeonborne lacks it yet, but its just yet.
I love watching ESO's content, but unless this was a sponsored video, I'm gonna have to pass. This is just Dark and Darker with Dark Souls graphics. Seems very nice looking but also too similar in mechanics. Glad to see you branching out of the Bethesda games! Now I'm back to playing Enshrouded.
I hope this forces dark and darker to step up. Ever since they introduced Druid I’ve had a miserable time. Don’t get me wrong, there’s other classes with ridiculous abilities and perks. But I honestly have no idea how Druid made it past play testing.
@@MrJordie11 Dark and darker didn't steal assets. The devs working on P3 just jumped ship and remade the game concept when P3 got canned. Ironically, this game is doing the same thing Dark and Darker (and Ironmace, the studio) did, sort of. They just took the concept and remade it in their own image. Although this time, the devs of dungeonborne aren't refugees from Ironmace/Dark and Darker. There's nothing illegal or unethical about it though. I'd go as far to say it's actually a very good thing for the games. Keeps the studios and devs innovating, updating, and competitive.
@@goatthecreator9905 "P3" or "project 3" (no official title) was the precursor to dark & darker, a game being developed at Nexon by the same devs who would go on to leave, found ironmace studios, and make Dark and Darker after Nexon shelved P3 indefinitely.
I tried it but didn't enjoy it probably because of my love for wizard/mages type. Felt like the controls just wasn't up to my liking. I'm actually enjoying Lightyear Frontier though. Haven't found any RPG demos I like though.
When you level up the characters they gain stats and are actually able to kill stuff in a decent time even with starter equipment. Also you really need to learn move patterns of enemy so you know when to strike to increase your clear speed. So for me the slow killing time is not an issue. I agree on the AI tho. The enemies are just too dumb and could use a little more intelligence. Not sure on how different movement speed impacts battle, so far Knight can charge and Death Knight can pull enemies to him, to hinder them from escaping. Both these classes also have AoE around them which counters rogue jumping around atleast a little bit. Need more playtesting to have a judgemebr bout that.
This is literally Dark and Darker but on steroids, in terms of graphics, animations, lighting, playable classes, etc. These guys jumped on the hype train when they saw what Dark and Darker was doing and the amount of hype they got. Literally nothing different in terms of game play loop.
Yea but if it’s more fun and has better UI, who cares about the game play loop? All extraction games have the same game play loop. Most first person shooters have the same gameplay loop. Doesn’t mean it’s not fun ya know
so youre saying the demo doesn't count on me spending my money in the future on this game ? Wtf does it have to do with me buying it on release ? @@Olemann4444
To me this game looks already better than dark and darker. A lot of quality of life improvements, possibility to buy space in stash, shared stash with other classes. Better trading experience overall. The fact that you can grind materials and make your own bandages and potions and flasks, throwables are a cool addition. I had more fun in Dungeonborne compared to dark and darker as a solo non rogue player
Great idea, looks like shit. too long to open the door. bad idea with the ring. too long to close the door. if i find an extract point, let me take it. so either notify other players and make it fast, or make it slow like this is, without notifying anyone
I agree. I saw the title, watched the first couple of minutes and thought "Multiplayer, so no, not the game I've been waiting for". Hopefully Avowed scratches that itch this year.
All depends if your going to be in dungeons with higher level player characters. Otherwise it'll be your normal gankfest game. Why grind when you can just kill players to steal what they have like you did.
This is just dark and darker with Skyrim
Exactly what I was thinking
Yea thee genre as it can get when it comes to that
Which is a good thing
Is that bad?
Skyrim and Skyrimer
So Dark and Darker?
Pretty much
its way better
no it is not lol
@@curtisnowling6603
With better graphics, animations, combat, lighting, and classes you mean? :D
worse. gameplay is unbalanced in a way that's somehow worse feeling than DaD, ai is completely incapable, stats are overly simplified, models are buggy, maps are too huge. it's got a lot of potential but there's a LOT of work left to do
The knight assassinating the rogue was pure gold 🤣
Honestly didn't think much about this when I started seeing it but it plays really well! Even in Solo.
Is this dark and darkers palworld? Looks awesome though, like d&d upgraded.
looks like Dark and Darker on the unreal 5 engine.
@user-lm6tv5fk8v bro what no way dark and darker is UE 5 and looks this badXDD
im not a hater, im lvl 60 bard, i like both but dungeonborne is better than dark and darker in everything except mechanics variations. dark and darker has lots of different classes with very different and cool mechanics, and edungeonborne lacks it yet, but its just yet.
I love watching ESO's content, but unless this was a sponsored video, I'm gonna have to pass. This is just Dark and Darker with Dark Souls graphics. Seems very nice looking but also too similar in mechanics. Glad to see you branching out of the Bethesda games! Now I'm back to playing Enshrouded.
This is like Dark and Darker (D+D) 👍✌
exactly same game right ?
I was thinking the same thing.
@@eddiaim4003 the traders are different but the game is very a like
combat system not the same@@galaxyking3014
This is exactly the kind of game I've been looking for.
This Darker and Darker
@@AthasinIt’s also an extraction fantasy game yes, which is great, competition
Havent been looking very hard have you?
@@Woobieeee Nor you reading very well huh
@@lothara.schmal5092 im not sure what you are referring to. I wasnt talking to you.
I hope this forces dark and darker to step up. Ever since they introduced Druid I’ve had a miserable time. Don’t get me wrong, there’s other classes with ridiculous abilities and perks. But I honestly have no idea how Druid made it past play testing.
This has to be dark and darker polished up lol.
Isn’t this the game that dark & darker stole assets from?
@@MrJordie11 Nope. It's same concept, different development
@@MrJordie11 Dark and darker didn't steal assets. The devs working on P3 just jumped ship and remade the game concept when P3 got canned. Ironically, this game is doing the same thing Dark and Darker (and Ironmace, the studio) did, sort of. They just took the concept and remade it in their own image. Although this time, the devs of dungeonborne aren't refugees from Ironmace/Dark and Darker. There's nothing illegal or unethical about it though. I'd go as far to say it's actually a very good thing for the games. Keeps the studios and devs innovating, updating, and competitive.
P3?
@@goatthecreator9905 "P3" or "project 3" (no official title) was the precursor to dark & darker, a game being developed at Nexon by the same devs who would go on to leave, found ironmace studios, and make Dark and Darker after Nexon shelved P3 indefinitely.
I thought this was Skyrim Together when I saw the title 😅
Why does the name and the visuals remind me of trailers I have seen several YEARS ago? Even before Dark and Darker was a thing.
The absolute disrespect to dark and darker with people acting like this idea is original rip
I tried it but didn't enjoy it probably because of my love for wizard/mages type. Felt like the controls just wasn't up to my liking. I'm actually enjoying Lightyear Frontier though. Haven't found any RPG demos I like though.
faster npc and kick animation would be nice with some barrels to throw enemy
When you level up the characters they gain stats and are actually able to kill stuff in a decent time even with starter equipment. Also you really need to learn move patterns of enemy so you know when to strike to increase your clear speed. So for me the slow killing time is not an issue.
I agree on the AI tho. The enemies are just too dumb and could use a little more intelligence.
Not sure on how different movement speed impacts battle, so far Knight can charge and Death Knight can pull enemies to him, to hinder them from escaping. Both these classes also have AoE around them which counters rogue jumping around atleast a little bit. Need more playtesting to have a judgemebr bout that.
I actually liked the dumbness of the enemies. Made it more fun just pounding them into the dirt.
A dark fantasy mmorpg with this graphics and combat would go hard
I think I'd love this game a lot more if they added an extraction timer like Tarkov instead of a terrible Battle Royale circle like Dark and Darker.
This looks amazing, but what platform can this be played on?
I hope they update the character creation system it's abit lacking 😊
Looks cool except for the unbearable door and lootbox opening timer and the slow movement speed
Love the art direction.
If only Skyrim & Valheim combined and had a baby….. sigh.
Skyrim's world building and RPG goodness with Valheim's crafting and survival. The ultimate Game.
@@ShogunV and the PVP. Valheim’s pvp is actually quite fun with a good play group
@@MrJ6H
Makes me think vermintide/pvp
Enshrouded?
Nope it looks more like the cancel IP from techland hellraid
so exactly Dark & Darker
Oh I played the demo
oh thansk for headsup
To slow, you need to be able to run with a stamina system and became louder af, if they adjust the movimebt system, it will be very cool
This looks promising!
This looks interesting. Thanks for sharing downloading while watching your video.
is it the demo? I don't see it on early access
So.... Dungeonborne is like the retail WoW version and Dark & Darker is the classic WoW version?
would get really toxic and competitive really quick thats the answer to the title lol
This is good it will force all games like this to out do each other it will be good for the market all around
Man I love this channel
Would be more enjoyable without pvp. Camping portals breaks the game
Hello
Looks like dark and darker but hopefully i can actually launch this one
Nope, the Mediveal Fantasy Game I wanted, Released Last year, it's called Baldur's Gate 3
This is exactly the kind of game I have not been looking for.
I love how ESO is presenting this to us as if Dark and Darker isn't real, and even as if the battle royale genre itself hasn't happened yet 😂
I actually prefer the combat here w/ skill based and slow TTK and obviously the visuals.
PVP? No thanks
Looks and have the feels of Dark Messiah
This is literally Dark and Darker but on steroids, in terms of graphics, animations, lighting, playable classes, etc. These guys jumped on the hype train when they saw what Dark and Darker was doing and the amount of hype they got. Literally nothing different in terms of game play loop.
Yea but if it’s more fun and has better UI, who cares about the game play loop? All extraction games have the same game play loop. Most first person shooters have the same gameplay loop. Doesn’t mean it’s not fun ya know
So this is what happened with the dark and darker assets?
Cool game. Needs some help in the gameplay department but the idea is cool
he said knight mage assassin and healer none of which are classes
So what do we call this new genre? Dungeon extraction?
this game is way better than Dark and Darker feels more polished less clunky and it is a fucking alpha
Dark and darker but better graphics. Are the two games made by the same people?
Literally just Dark and Darker lol
If it had a PVE without the PVP option id buy it for me currently its a no
Its free demo
so youre saying the demo doesn't count on me spending my money in the future on this game ? Wtf does it have to do with me buying it on release ? @@Olemann4444
It's dark and darker ?
yep if visually upgrade edit: similar even down to the game's handedness
You should try Dark and Darker. It's better, and came out first.
shouldnt sponsored videos should say that they are paid promotion?
is there PvE only mode?
So dark and darker with better graphics really wish companies would stop copying each other and do something original.
Hackers are going to ruin this game!
Wouldn't be surprised. Hackers ruin every game they touch.
how is this game not copyrighted looks exactly like dark and darker and the spells look exactly like Diablo wtf
This is like hunt showdown just medieval
Looks like a darkest dungeon with better graphics.
Is this better than dark and darker?
No, it's still way too janky and everything feels way too slow. It has potential though.
I'd play this game
It's on steam and you can play it right now
it looks like might and magic
I cant put it down!!
This is just someone who reskinned Dark and Darker with more options...
at [ 15:25 ] it goes from first person to third person perspective. Anyone knows if one can choose to play it on 3rd person?
it was the Q skill
Battle between Stealth Archers turns the game into FPS game 😂😂
I don’t know, but it’s definitely the one you got
It looks like hellraid the cancel ip from techland
The equipement HUI look like diablo 4
To me this game looks already better than dark and darker. A lot of quality of life improvements, possibility to buy space in stash, shared stash with other classes. Better trading experience overall.
The fact that you can grind materials and make your own bandages and potions and flasks, throwables are a cool addition. I had more fun in Dungeonborne compared to dark and darker as a solo non rogue player
Great idea, looks like shit. too long to open the door. bad idea with the ring. too long to close the door. if i find an extract point, let me take it. so either notify other players and make it fast, or make it slow like this is, without notifying anyone
Looks fun
Those "players" were clearly bots btw LOL. Last guy might've just been afk but the two looting before are 100% bots
The game seems fun and enjoyable ... until hackers start appearing. Is there anything in terms of an anti-cheat?
Only first person?
Does it have controller support?
Wow ok they literally cloned Dark and Darker down to even the animations of opening doors and chests. Looks cool though
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dude half the stuff in this game is a straight up rip from dark and darker, down to the mimic looking EXACTLY the same
Reminds me of dungeon siege
Seems like a combination of Skyrim and tarkov plus some battle royal rules…
Needs a lot of work but looks promising.
Thank you!!
For me it's not, because I won't be able to play it offline.
dark and darker?
My guys just getting free/cheap kills at this point haha
So dark and darker
Also, sounds a lot like medieval fortnight
Looks like a blast if you like to harm other people. Alas, not for me.
I agree. I saw the title, watched the first couple of minutes and thought "Multiplayer, so no, not the game I've been waiting for". Hopefully Avowed scratches that itch this year.
All depends if your going to be in dungeons with higher level player characters. Otherwise it'll be your normal gankfest game. Why grind when you can just kill players to steal what they have like you did.
So just a better looking dark and darker?
teaching people while skipping basic mechanics like leaving all healing pots on player while low health
So um Dark and Darker? Totally an upgraded version.
I think it's 2 or 3 times now the title of this vid has been changed. Lol ... well fair enough. The first title was total click bait.
much better than Warhammer: Vermintide 2
PVPVE >>> PVE
Dank and Danker
Dark and Darker has done this and it's better
Where Steam ?
dark and darker is simply better