Can u get in touch with me, there a weird Mandela effect with 2014 release like 2 separate realities for real. I can run u the odd censorship created by the Mandela effect.
@@Imabigfanguy Alan moore hasnt showered in like 20 years. The man is gross and while i love his early works. He quickly devolved into... well, literal trash. Alan not only hates comic books but he hates every one that buys them. He is literal human trash.
I’ve never been the biggest “grim dark” fan, but Alan Moore has always been a great example of stories that inspired the tone that many copy, but miss the details that make things like Watchmen and Marvelman actually feel like they have something to say and not just “look how much everything sucks and everyone is an asshole duuuuuuuuuhhhhh, isn’t this cool? This ain’t your zaddy’s Superman!”
And to make matters worse, Grant Morrison has said that they came into the industry with the idea that all British comic writers had to be like Alan Moore, replicate his style without his substance, and if Morrison thought that, it makes me think that there were a significant number of other British comic writers who felt that way. Makes me wonder how many found their own identity and philosophy like Grant Morrison and how many just continued to copy Alan Moore's style.
Alan Moore’s Supreme is another amazing gem of forgotten comic book history. It’s basically the author recanting every cynical/ grim thing he’s written about the genre and diving head first into unbridled superhero fun. It’s a love letter to silver age Superman updated for the 1990s and it’s brilliant
Love how Marvel was more concerned about Marvel Man being British than being involved in some bizarre romantic triangle. It’s like the British “people” meme come to life.
Marvel threatening to sue a significantly smaller publisher because a book using "Marvel" in their titles before they using the word is such a dick headed move by Marvel that is utterly on brand for them.
I just re-read this because I'm hyped for the new Omnibus. What a perfect time for this video to drop. Miracle Man really flips the Captain Marvel/Shazam trope on its head.
To have "super you" be so powerful, yet so separate and alien he cucks you to the point of suicide really is the biggest tear down of comic power fantasies there is
@@saucevc8353 yeah. A few days ago I met a girl named Holly Bowman. She married into the name. The thought that a girl named after a tree found an archer to hold her is mind-blowing.
This was probably the best time to be releasing this video, as before i had no idea who MiracleMan was, and given how in Marvel's "Timeless" one shot last year, they actually teased that MiracleMan will be coming back presumable within the Marvel universe, i was curious to see what this character was about. I never expected to be the result of many factors including Shazam's legal battle, British disributions, and so many other factors. Lets see what the future holds for this one special Miricale...
I'd been wanting to make this video for years, and was waiting for the right time to do it. After the Timeless one shot it seemed like it was finally time!
Ugh! Bringing him into the Marvel Universe is a TERRIBLE idea! His is the story of a superhuman who remakes the world, not just another strong guy who punches stuff.
I wish I can go back to me as 12 almost 13 year old kid opening up and reading Watchmen for the first time. Moore is such a master. I loved his run of Radioactive Man when he made his a heroin addicted jazz critic who wasn’t radioactive.
I know Allen Moore is steadfast in preferring the Marvel Man name, but Miracle Man honestly encapsulates the themes of the series better. What if you had the power to change the world to the point of changing human nature, and the people who can't adapt (including your normal alter ego) are left lamenting what was lost? Miracles take are the work of the divine, but even they fail to convince all into belief--and turn the apostates into the most fervent critics of all
Its pains me to see ‘forgotten’ in the title. I read Miracleman and Moore’s Swamp Thing in the eighties, BEFORE Watchmen, it it all blew me away: the ideas, the literate writing! I didn’t know you could do such things! And the attack on London……? It’s still vivid in my mind, the horror of a REAL battle between superhumans in an urban environment.
I cannot believe the image of Captain Marvel in Gargunza's FB made it in the original run and the Marvel reprint. I also loved the childbirth scene. But Miraclewoman's attitude of her own assault by Gargunza was very wonky to say the least.
Absolutely my favourite work by Alan Moore. I love V For Vendetta, Watchmen and From Hell especially. However Miracleman stands above all those in my heart. I pray Gaiman is able to complete the tale.
Miracle Man could be a fantastic animated series it could be more darker more mature and more gritty I can see them do that got that invisible feel to it
So based on a recent Kang comic, Marvel is officially introducing Miracleman in some 616 form, much like what DC did with Doomsday Clock. Good or bad idea? Ehhh we’ll find out soon enough.
My favourite comic ever, and I fully believe that it is one of the very greatest of all time, if not the greatest that will ever be printed. The staggering imagination illustrated within the 3 volumes by Moore has transcended what the human mind can produce. If anyone is to read any comic at least once in their lifetime, this is that essential comic. This work strikes perfection in the purest form; an achievement of the Miraculous.
It may sound insane but one of my biggest regrets was not to see the Miracleman’s story arc completed. It looks now it’s not being the case and I’m so very glad about that. Cheers 😀
In 2009 I asked David Lloyd about Warrior, and he face lit up. He said that it was wonderful because before that no creators were able to work on their own ideas.
God the research you did for this one was phenomenal! One of my favourites youve done so far :) keep up the awesome work owen, easily one of the best comic channels on here imo
OWEN! I don't know how I missed this video over a year ago. I was watching comic tropes talk about Marvelman and looked it up and you were the first video! great job. I never heard of this character before today, but I really want to read these comics now! Hope you can do some doctor who comics stuff in the future!
I remember this so well. It was the first book by Alan Moore that I ever read and you know right away that it is special and the writer is a genius. It was the first book I ever read that asked then showed what the world might be like with beings that had God like powers interacting with regular human beings. Their fights not just caused damage but destroyed cities and killed untold numbers of civilians. Governments not able to control them trying to contain or kill them. The exchange between Magaret Thatcher and Miracle Man near the end is amazing and considering that Alan Moore hated Thatcher it must have been cathartic for him to write the book in such a manner.
I see in this a lot of Alan Moore's plans for Billy Batson and the "House of Thunder" (Marvel Family) from the rejected _Twilight of the Superheroes_ proposal.
@@danielgreen2788 It's a little more complicated than that, but Marvel and DC certainly excel at offending and alienating Moore to the detriment of their annual revenues.
Could we see Kid Miracleman in a Kingdom Hearts game as a Secret Boss? Maybe, maybe. I think Kid Miracleman should be a Secret Superboss in Kingdom Hearts IV. Well, that's a sort-of Win-win solution long before everyone else is here.
Hey owen, i was thinking today about the series "trouble"...which prompted me to think about aunt may...she is easily one of THE MOST IMPORTANT people in peter parkers life and yet noone really talks about her, to the writers she's either an emotional (multifridged) punching back or a background character who's peters meal ticket...but here we a have a women who has a child she didnt ask for, and has to raise him on her own, with the complications of freaking spider-man's life...and she was NEVER resentful or stand offish toward that...i recall in a what if she even became spider ma'am herself...id aurgue she is essential to spiderman comics metawise, and integral to the person peter not only us but is still becoming...id like to request you consider doing a video on her cuz she even got frided in "no way home" and that is modern day 2022...ill punctuate it with a please...but even if you dont, thanks for considering my comment. 👍
better than watchmen, Moore is a genius, exposing everybody else as the talentless hacks they are. the industry will never recover from what he did to the so called super heroes genre
So many comics stole ideas from Alan Moore's miracleman. You can say it was stolen from Shazam but after moore got ahold of it there was nothing like it. But it's so obvious in some small way it influenced every comic after it. Even dark superman modern idea is stolen from it.
“Masterpiece” is a word that is so overused that it has become synonymous with hyperbolic praise. However, in the case of Alan Moore’s, Miracleman, there is no better word to describe it.
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a very fast building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy..
While I believe V4V, within the super-hero genre, presents Moore's most "satisfying" narrative cycle, and Watchmen works as his most "complete" & definitive statement on "mainstream" (let's call them "corporation-owned") super-heroes, I believe Miracleman serves as his definitive statement on so many aspects of comics - the publishing history of the Anglo-American "comics industry" (endless metaphorical threads), creator rights & the quality + ethics of creativity in various circumstances, the implications of devastating conflict + omnipotent power assuming "responsibility" in/for the world. While, perhaps, Lost Girls & From Hell reveal Moore at his most personally intrigued, and while Promethea remains my favorite of his works for its (relatively) lighter touch in addressing such thematic interests, I agree with you, Owen, in your wonderful assessment of Marvel/Miracleman being Moore's quintessential •requisite• work - maybe because for so long it was a "lost" classic? (As an aside: Neil & Bucky expertly gather + advance these themes, rising to Alan's challenge that the story was finished with perhaps no room left for those familiar conflicts fueling traditional storytelling - an exquisite red herring at best.) In any case, the opus' •meta• resonances as both expression & representation of comics history - myth (narrative) & manufacture (commerce), & as authorial accomplishment speak backward & forward from its moment to the entire audience of comics readers & creators, as well as to the form’s cultural significance & promise, & to its place within the cultural project of entertainment, discourse, and, again, creativity. All that said, another "lost & forgotten" work by Moore deserves real scrutiny & discussion in the history of comics, of popular culture, and of world politics: "Brought to Light," illustrated by Bill Sienkiewicz. Do you remember that one? (As for Big Numers.... Well...)
Alan Moore's MiracleMAn is the best comic book ever written and drawn and il debate that with anyone. While i like Neil's run, it can not be mentioned in the same light, its just no where near as ground breaking or interesting. Alan's issues have such a sense of mystery and awe, nothing else in comicdom has come remotely close to that
I hope Neil Gaiman completes his run, he's so popular now that it would financially stupid, but if love to see where his arc would have ended up. I do worry that both of their arcs have dated badly in places; Big Ben, nudity, violence, darkness female representation; and the gay themes in Neil Gaiman's run, both feel uncomfortable today. Oddly, it's up in our reading group next month, so I'll be interested to see what people make of it.
I totally want Marvel to do an animated MCU Multiverse Miracle Man show or special. Like as the MCU is now, I doubt they'd do a live action version of this story. But it could be a fun tangent thing and hey they're doing 1602 as a What If? I'm kinda assuming it's gonna be another testing ground episode. Like they did with Marvel Zombies, and if it does well it'll get its own mini series.
My era of comic fandom if I guess you could call it that was late 90s to early-mid 00s… superhero wise Miracleman was a super wellknown name. Everyone wanted MM to be reprinted. The whole MM legal drama was in the top two or three legal soap operas going on in the comic scene during that era. Like 90+% of comic readers at the time I was forced to read the series pirated in cbr/cbz formats. 04/05 I remember for whatever reason the original TPB of NGs run, a TPB published in the 90s Amazon showed it in stock ( AMZN was still a bookstore at this point lol). So anyway I ordered that book like 5 times because it always showed instock everytime but everytime I got an email saying blah blah can’t ship that one here’s the rest of your order and it took like 5 times b4 they finally changed it from instock to discounted. Glad Marvelman is getting published again tho
Perhaps his Comic: Top Ten - where we follow a police station of super heros is a version of the world centuries later where everyone is now a super hero but they still worship old super gods.. Top Ten is so much fun
This isn’t the first time marvel got a new character they have Malibu comic character the reasons they couldn’t used it has to do with creator pay since miracle man is still current on the hand of gaiman I think marvel will later incorporate him in the mainstream timeline
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Can u get in touch with me, there a weird Mandela effect with 2014 release like 2 separate realities for real.
I can run u the odd censorship created by the Mandela effect.
I love how Alan Moore hasn’t changed his look for over 40 years.
A combination of Rasputin and Gandalf the Grey.
@@Imabigfanguy he is a wizard afterall
@@Imabigfanguy Alan moore hasnt showered in like 20 years. The man is gross and while i love his early works. He quickly devolved into... well, literal trash. Alan not only hates comic books but he hates every one that buys them. He is literal human trash.
He can't remember the magic words to turn back, hence why he started studying the mystic arts
@@TheSuperQuail Highly underrated comment. Especially on a Miracleman video.
I’ve never been the biggest “grim dark” fan, but Alan Moore has always been a great example of stories that inspired the tone that many copy, but miss the details that make things like Watchmen and Marvelman actually feel like they have something to say and not just “look how much everything sucks and everyone is an asshole duuuuuuuuuhhhhh, isn’t this cool? This ain’t your zaddy’s Superman!”
That’s always been the problem: lesser writers try to copy the form, but they don’t…CAN’T get it.
@@jonbodhi Its always easier to mimic style than substance.
This always seem to be a problem no matter the type of media though.
How the boys
And to make matters worse, Grant Morrison has said that they came into the industry with the idea that all British comic writers had to be like Alan Moore, replicate his style without his substance, and if Morrison thought that, it makes me think that there were a significant number of other British comic writers who felt that way. Makes me wonder how many found their own identity and philosophy like Grant Morrison and how many just continued to copy Alan Moore's style.
I would like to see Alan Moore write and direct an episode of the boys
Alan Moore’s Supreme is another amazing gem of forgotten comic book history. It’s basically the author recanting every cynical/ grim thing he’s written about the genre and diving head first into unbridled superhero fun. It’s a love letter to silver age Superman updated for the 1990s and it’s brilliant
Supreme is so underrated. I absolutely love that series.
I completely agree, but the art is so painfully 90's!
I've always heard great things about it but have never been able to track down a copy.
@@finnsterling6514 it's really hard to get a copy, or was six months ago when I tried to get a replacement. Worth it, though. Good luck!
@@richardtrouncer3652 it's a mess...and most importantly, didn't have dave gibbons to save it
Love how Marvel was more concerned about Marvel Man being British than being involved in some bizarre romantic triangle. It’s like the British “people” meme come to life.
And basically did the sex triangle with the sentry
That’s very obviously not the case
Marvel threatening to sue a significantly smaller publisher because a book using "Marvel" in their titles before they using the word is such a dick headed move by Marvel that is utterly on brand for them.
It's awesome that we are finally getting reprints of Alan Moore's criminally underrated work of all time.
I just re-read this because I'm hyped for the new Omnibus. What a perfect time for this video to drop. Miracle Man really flips the Captain Marvel/Shazam trope on its head.
To have "super you" be so powerful, yet so separate and alien he cucks you to the point of suicide really is the biggest tear down of comic power fantasies there is
@@wikipediafollower Exactly.
Miracleman was always a better name than Marvelman. Glad to hear that Mick Anglo was able to benefit from his character in the end
Yeah. always made me shudder a bit. Maybe it's due to my Christian roots. Miracle strictly the domain of God.
@@RollingCalf Such a meaningful name for a character who's all about essentially becoming God in the eyes of Planet Earth.
@@saucevc8353 yeah. A few days ago I met a girl named Holly Bowman. She married into the name.
The thought that a girl named after a tree found an archer to hold her is mind-blowing.
Glad to see Marvel making reprints of Miracle Man. His comics are great, especially the 80s run.
Highly recommend seeking out his slightly earlier work on Captain Britain with Alan Davis where I feel reinvention really started for Moore
Let's goooooo
Glad to see you here. Love your videos on comics.
This was probably the best time to be releasing this video, as before i had no idea who MiracleMan was, and given how in Marvel's "Timeless" one shot last year, they actually teased that MiracleMan will be coming back presumable within the Marvel universe, i was curious to see what this character was about. I never expected to be the result of many factors including Shazam's legal battle, British disributions, and so many other factors. Lets see what the future holds for this one special Miricale...
I'd been wanting to make this video for years, and was waiting for the right time to do it. After the Timeless one shot it seemed like it was finally time!
Ugh! Bringing him into the Marvel Universe is a TERRIBLE idea! His is the story of a superhuman who remakes the world, not just another strong guy who punches stuff.
@@jonbodhi They actually own the rights now 😆
@@jonbodhiit's Nietzsche in comic form
I wish I can go back to me as 12 almost 13 year old kid opening up and reading Watchmen for the first time. Moore is such a master.
I loved his run of Radioactive Man when he made his a heroin addicted jazz critic who wasn’t radioactive.
I know Allen Moore is steadfast in preferring the Marvel Man name, but Miracle Man honestly encapsulates the themes of the series better. What if you had the power to change the world to the point of changing human nature, and the people who can't adapt (including your normal alter ego) are left lamenting what was lost? Miracles take are the work of the divine, but even they fail to convince all into belief--and turn the apostates into the most fervent critics of all
Well said! That final image of him lamenting over what could’ve been has always stuck with me.
“Sometimes, I just wonder”
The original squadron supreme comics are really underrated as well
Kimota!
Miracle man is a main inspiration whenever I write “classic” kinds of superheroes with insignias and brightly colored suits
Its pains me to see ‘forgotten’ in the title. I read Miracleman and Moore’s Swamp Thing in the eighties, BEFORE Watchmen, it it all blew me away: the ideas, the literate writing! I didn’t know you could do such things!
And the attack on London……? It’s still vivid in my mind, the horror of a REAL battle between superhumans in an urban environment.
Owen. Thank you. As a US comic book reading adolescent I was given a copy of MM and needless to say, it was over my head. Now it all makes sense.
Swamp thing is my favorite Alan Moore book, I've read so far.
I see Alan Moore"s name in the thumbnail, my interest has peaked
Gone but not forgotten, every time I'm in a comic shop I keep hoping to find a new miracleman.
Man this would make such a good Amazon Prime show
I cannot believe the image of Captain Marvel in Gargunza's FB made it in the original run and the Marvel reprint. I also loved the childbirth scene. But Miraclewoman's attitude of her own assault by Gargunza was very wonky to say the least.
The Miracleman comic is great! Wish they would make more.
Give the new Timeless comic featuring Kang a read, came out a few weeks ago
Hehe, about that.
Absolutely my favourite work by Alan Moore. I love V For Vendetta, Watchmen and From Hell especially. However Miracleman stands above all those in my heart. I pray Gaiman is able to complete the tale.
The ending made me realize that there's nothing more dystopian than an utopia
Miracle Man could be a fantastic animated series it could be more darker more mature and more gritty I can see them do that got that invisible feel to it
So good to hear someone call Shazam by his true hero name (Captain Marvel).
Like a dream.
I remember getting the Marvel reprints and being blown away
I feel so lucky to have picked these up while they were still on the racks.
So based on a recent Kang comic, Marvel is officially introducing Miracleman in some 616 form, much like what DC did with Doomsday Clock. Good or bad idea? Ehhh we’ll find out soon enough.
A lot of forgotten characters having been making a comeback lately
TERRIBLE idea!
Fucking terrible idea. Just brainless.
A very very very bad idea...
I'm going to guess bad. But maybe Neil Gaiman will finish his run.
16-issue run creating a timeless masterpiece! Thanks for the video took me back to when I first read this classic!
Fantastic work as always Owen! A fascinating story for sure. Cant wait to see what the character does next!
My favourite comic ever, and I fully believe that it is one of the very greatest of all time, if not the greatest that will ever be printed. The staggering imagination illustrated within the 3 volumes by Moore has transcended what the human mind can produce. If anyone is to read any comic at least once in their lifetime, this is that essential comic. This work strikes perfection in the purest form; an achievement of the Miraculous.
Agree with everthing you have stated. It was and is a masterpiece.
I haven’t read it but I’ll have to check it out
I swear I've seen this somewhere before. Have they ever done an animated or live action short film?
Kinda looks like a character from multiversity
There was a video a lot like this by the Nerdwriter, I think.
Most Arguable Hero. With Power Never Understood
Easily my favourite comic. Thanks for covering this.
It may sound insane but one of my biggest regrets was not to see the Miracleman’s story arc completed. It looks now it’s not being the case and I’m so very glad about that. Cheers 😀
somehow this ended up being one of the earliest comics i read and it absolutely cemented me as a comic book fan
Great video! The history of Miracleman as a character is super interesting.
Thank you!
Hello Owen, thanks again for your videos, they are true mastepiece. Simple editing and a complete analysis based on the history of comics. Well done !
Alan Moore is so good.
Hey, I’m a simple man. When I see Owen (Likes Comics) uploaded, I watch.
Was looking for a video like this a few weeks ago. This is exactly what i was looking for.
Glad you liked it!
Could you make a video about Dynamite Entertainment Project Superpowers please?.
There are two books whose last lines I remember: The Count of Monte Christo and Miracleman.
In 2009 I asked David Lloyd about Warrior, and he face lit up. He said that it was wonderful because before that no creators were able to work on their own ideas.
Just watching a video about Marvel's character "Sentry" and what it said about the beginning, it sounds a lot like "A Dream of Flying".
Finally someone acknowledges the Miracle Man inspiration in Sentry, the inane Superman comparisons are so tiresome.
God the research you did for this one was phenomenal! One of my favourites youve done so far :) keep up the awesome work owen, easily one of the best comic channels on here imo
Thank you so much, that's really kind of you to say!
OWEN! I don't know how I missed this video over a year ago. I was watching comic tropes talk about Marvelman and looked it up and you were the first video! great job. I never heard of this character before today, but I really want to read these comics now!
Hope you can do some doctor who comics stuff in the future!
I remember this so well. It was the first book by Alan Moore that I ever read and you know right away that it is special and the writer is a genius. It was the first book I ever read that asked then showed what the world might be like with beings that had God like powers interacting with regular human beings. Their fights not just caused damage but destroyed cities and killed untold numbers of civilians. Governments not able to control them trying to contain or kill them. The exchange between Magaret Thatcher and Miracle Man near the end is amazing and considering that Alan Moore hated Thatcher it must have been cathartic for him to write the book in such a manner.
Great history video on Alan Moore miracle man
I see in this a lot of Alan Moore's plans for Billy Batson and the "House of Thunder" (Marvel Family) from the rejected _Twilight of the Superheroes_ proposal.
Please do a video on Supreme! I'd love to hear about it through your lens!
This character isnt forgotten. Marvel fought for the rights and is reprinting everything and producing new material.
That last page of Timeless got me hyped
"fought for the rights"? more like stealing the work of the "original writer"
@@danielgreen2788 It's a little more complicated than that, but Marvel and DC certainly excel at offending and alienating Moore to the detriment of their annual revenues.
Could we see Kid Miracleman in a Kingdom Hearts game as a Secret Boss? Maybe, maybe. I think Kid Miracleman should be a Secret Superboss in Kingdom Hearts IV.
Well, that's a sort-of Win-win solution long before everyone else is here.
@maxleon61702 that's such a good idea omg
Hell yes! I have been waiting for this! Amazing job Owen, sending love and Happy Birthday!
Hey owen, i was thinking today about the series "trouble"...which prompted me to think about aunt may...she is easily one of THE MOST IMPORTANT people in peter parkers life and yet noone really talks about her, to the writers she's either an emotional (multifridged) punching back or a background character who's peters meal ticket...but here we a have a women who has a child she didnt ask for, and has to raise him on her own, with the complications of freaking spider-man's life...and she was NEVER resentful or stand offish toward that...i recall in a what if she even became spider ma'am herself...id aurgue she is essential to spiderman comics metawise, and integral to the person peter not only us but is still becoming...id like to request you consider doing a video on her cuz she even got frided in "no way home" and that is modern day 2022...ill punctuate it with a please...but even if you dont, thanks for considering my comment. 👍
Excellent video you should cover Moore's Supreme and glory runs as well as 1963
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Welcome! Thanks so much
I really really wish we could get that ever promised finale by Gaiman
better than watchmen, Moore is a genius, exposing everybody else as the talentless hacks they are. the industry will never recover from what he did to the so called super heroes genre
Purchased the first 2 hardcover collections this week. Hoping to hunt down the rest soon enough.
Best comic I've read
Also cover moors captain Britain as well as his supreme run as it ties to his Superman stories as well as 1963
I first encountered Miracleman (then Marvelman) in Warrior in black and white and thought the writing was brilliant. Proper human dialogue!
New to the channel loved the video 🔥🔥🔥
He is an amazing superhero!
Hardly forgotten. Marvel has released multiple hard copy comps
Never forgotten. Not by me.
Ever.
So many comics stole ideas from Alan Moore's miracleman. You can say it was stolen from Shazam but after moore got ahold of it there was nothing like it. But it's so obvious in some small way it influenced every comic after it. Even dark superman modern idea is stolen from it.
I wouldn't say 'stolen', the dark superman idea is just a natural evolution of the concept
Just in time.
“Masterpiece” is a word that is so overused that it has become synonymous with hyperbolic praise.
However, in the case of Alan Moore’s, Miracleman, there is no better word to describe it.
Great seeing a video on him
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a very fast building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy..
Its crazy the same day i learn about this character this video came out this shit is trippy
While I believe V4V, within the super-hero genre, presents Moore's most "satisfying" narrative cycle, and Watchmen works as his most "complete" & definitive statement on "mainstream" (let's call them "corporation-owned") super-heroes, I believe Miracleman serves as his definitive statement on so many aspects of comics - the publishing history of the Anglo-American "comics industry" (endless metaphorical threads), creator rights & the quality + ethics of creativity in various circumstances, the implications of devastating conflict + omnipotent power assuming "responsibility" in/for the world.
While, perhaps, Lost Girls & From Hell reveal Moore at his most personally intrigued, and while Promethea remains my favorite of his works for its (relatively) lighter touch in addressing such thematic interests, I agree with you, Owen, in your wonderful assessment of Marvel/Miracleman being Moore's quintessential •requisite• work - maybe because for so long it was a "lost" classic?
(As an aside: Neil & Bucky expertly gather + advance these themes, rising to Alan's challenge that the story was finished with perhaps no room left for those familiar conflicts fueling traditional storytelling - an exquisite red herring at best.)
In any case, the opus' •meta• resonances as both expression & representation of comics history - myth (narrative) & manufacture (commerce), & as authorial accomplishment speak backward & forward from its moment to the entire audience of comics readers & creators, as well as to the form’s cultural significance & promise, & to its place within the cultural project of entertainment, discourse, and, again, creativity.
All that said, another "lost & forgotten" work by Moore deserves real scrutiny & discussion in the history of comics, of popular culture, and of world politics: "Brought to Light," illustrated by Bill Sienkiewicz. Do you remember that one? (As for Big Numers.... Well...)
The 80s comics are so fucking good
21:11 NOW THAT. IS. IRONY!
I'm a fan of the original mick anglo run and the Alan Moore run I can't wait for the Neil gaiman to finish his
@OwenLikesComics I would love to see a crossover with Miracleman, the Ultimate Universe (Earth-6160) & George R. R. Martin's Wild Cards.
Alan Moore's MiracleMAn is the best comic book ever written and drawn and il debate that with anyone. While i like Neil's run, it can not be mentioned in the same light, its just no where near as ground breaking or interesting. Alan's issues have such a sense of mystery and awe, nothing else in comicdom has come remotely close to that
Marvel did a Marvel Tales reprint of the Alan Moore/Alan Davis Miracleman from the 80s. So if you haven't read this masterpiece yet, go get it.
Kid Marvelman seems a lot like Homelander.
Kimota!!
I know miracleman he should be in comics more often. 😀👍
Spoken like a true Owen
I have the 2 Marvel reprints. I heard he'll be back the new series, Timeless.
I hope Neil Gaiman completes his run, he's so popular now that it would financially stupid, but if love to see where his arc would have ended up.
I do worry that both of their arcs have dated badly in places; Big Ben, nudity, violence, darkness female representation; and the gay themes in Neil Gaiman's run, both feel uncomfortable today.
Oddly, it's up in our reading group next month, so I'll be interested to see what people make of it.
With mental capabilities to be as the cosmos would need
I totally want Marvel to do an animated MCU Multiverse Miracle Man show or special.
Like as the MCU is now, I doubt they'd do a live action version of this story. But it could be a fun tangent thing and hey they're doing 1602 as a What If? I'm kinda assuming it's gonna be another testing ground episode. Like they did with Marvel Zombies, and if it does well it'll get its own mini series.
Can you do a video of the 12 issue series Justice by Jim Krueger and Alex Ross?
My era of comic fandom if I guess you could call it that was late 90s to early-mid 00s… superhero wise Miracleman was a super wellknown name. Everyone wanted MM to be reprinted. The whole MM legal drama was in the top two or three legal soap operas going on in the comic scene during that era.
Like 90+% of comic readers at the time I was forced to read the series pirated in cbr/cbz formats. 04/05 I remember for whatever reason the original TPB of NGs run, a TPB published in the 90s Amazon showed it in stock ( AMZN was still a bookstore at this point lol). So anyway I ordered that book like 5 times because it always showed instock everytime but everytime I got an email saying blah blah can’t ship that one here’s the rest of your order and it took like 5 times b4 they finally changed it from instock to discounted.
Glad Marvelman is getting published again tho
I really hope/think Robert kirkman read Miracle Man before creating Invincible
Hey can you do a video on Bob Gale's cancelled Doctor Strange movie script which was going to be directed by Wes Craven
Perhaps his Comic: Top Ten - where we follow a police station of super heros is a version of the world centuries later where everyone is now a super hero but they still worship old super gods..
Top Ten is so much fun
HEY OWEN, After reading the Whole MiracleMan series by Alan Moore. Do you consider Miracle Man/Mikey Moran as a tragic Villain story?
Great video, but it hurt me when you mention in the opening avengers and x men as Marvels premier teams in the 60s and not the fantastic 4
This isn’t the first time marvel got a new character they have Malibu comic character the reasons they couldn’t used it has to do with creator pay since miracle man is still current on the hand of gaiman I think marvel will later incorporate him in the mainstream timeline