That's literally how the block button work on every other site. It only block the user from interacting with you, but your message is still publicly visible to everyone regardless if you block them.
Youve been wrapped up in such petty nothings that you forgot the real reason for it: bots and annoying people RUclips would be a paradise if I could block users on god
The way the idea was explained to me is if X is a digital town square, you are free to go there and publicly broadcast your message. However since you are publicly broadcasting your message you don't get to decide that certain people in the town square don't get to hear you.
I'd respect that if Twitter was truly handled like a free speech platform without needing to enroll, but the administration before nor Musk's administration show any true interest in that.
@@TheTrains13 Exactly what I thought. I don't need my boss to dangle both migrants and the twiteroti over me as my replacement should I arrive 6 mins late again, while still not firing the person who stares at the wall all day because at least "they?" show up on time.
The sheer inconsequential outrage from this change convinced me it was a good one. Blocking never deleted someone from the internet; it was trivial to circumvent. But the fact that these people believed that delusion, and built their subcultures around that, feels like it encouraged their character. Anything that strips them of that petulant mentality can only be good. Actual integrity of thought requires practice. Time for them to work.
They're gonna be really upset when people can still screenshot their tweets and use them as evidence for their stupidity. Now, if only protected mode could be abolished. Or as I like to call it coward mode.
People are saying that this breaks Apple's and Google's app store policies, but it's the same exact system Discord uses. If someone blocks you, you can still see what they're saying, you just can't add reactions to the message.
Both stores have very vague definitions of what constitutes a block feature. Morons extrapolate whatever definition they want from the vagueness to shit on Elon and pretend like they somehow know better.
Doesn't surprise me. Tim Pool might be a lefty disowned by the liberals and progressives for failing to comply 100% of the time, but he is still a lefty. Outrage is all he knows how to do. Ever notice how when something bad happens to a very dumb leftist, he's more angry about the optics being bad for liberals than he is glad that a bad person got what they deserved in this usually unjust world?
Tim, being controlled opposition, doesn't like anything that harms the left's ability to be duplicitous. He's good with things as long as they only serve to marginally help the right. But if something that truly matters comes up, like election integrity questions, the public square going back to being a public square, ect., he's dead set against it. I used to think he was just a fence sitter, but I've watched him for enough years to notice the pattern, now.
Wait until the +oons who are mad about this find out their tweets could always be seen by people they've blocked. All you have to do is open incognito mode or log out.
It never made any sense that blocking someone should make you entirely invisible to them. Preventing someone from interacting with or commenting on your posts makes complete sense, but anything beyond that is just silly
I can't edit on mobile browser, but I should add that the one exception where blocking someone should result in your posts becoming inaccessible to them is if your profile is set to private.
@@Riley_Mundt Yeah, but the prevention of that is really hard and is mostly up to the parents who we know won't do much to monitor their children's activities.
I just think it funny that certain people are so mad at this that they are going to use a platform where currently you don’t need an account to see people’s posts.
Sure, Elon's proposed changes to blocking could use a bit more refinement. I think it is telling that the first response of so many is to go "welp, moving to BlueSky LOL" and it is funny because years ago they were the "Twitter is a private company" crowd.
@@mightyfineincredible2252 yeah imo that's why his take is so bad he says that doesn't matter because people don't really do that. He got ratio'd all over X
Tim's IQ is barely above room temperature. He knows the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground, so he's above most Marxists, but that's as far as it goes.
For years I never blocked a single person, but over the last few months I’ve had to deal with so many tourists in the anime community that I’ve started to block these people. I’ll usually block someone if they fill my notifications with just meme’s without saying anything with the meme. Or if I can tell they’re unable to separate fiction from reality & wont stop replying to me. Or if they post my pfp back to me without saying anything, that’s an instant block. But I don’t care if that they can see my posts, just as long as I don’t get notifications from them.
This is honestly in our benefit. Allows us to ignore the tourists if we want while being able to protect us from their offensive blocks maneuvers to hide their campaigns like what they did to Chibi Reviews recently.
A reasonable take on a feature that is not 100% known/confirmed how it will work. And this topic shows not just leftist who have loose screws, some centrist like Tim Pool also got insane issues with it (in his case I'm simply blaming the beanie cutting off circulation).
At this point, all "centrists" are just controlled opposition. After everything that has happened in the past few years, it's impossible for a sane person to remain "in the center".
@@ACE1918 i agree, I badly worded that your video covered the point right after i commented. the new key is thinking of how they will exploit this. offhand the only exploit is this forces them to make a new cesspool to hide in.
My main concern about this is that it will increase the amount of anime artists having their posts false flagged because blocking no longer prevents the Twitiots from seeing those posts
@asandax6 I hope you are correct however I think the no interaction part only applies to commenting on and liking posts. I'm pretty sure blocked people can still report tweets if they can see them. There is already a problem of furries targeting anime artists on Twitter. Blocking them used to be the solution. I'm worried that might not work anymore with the new changes
Honestly, this is the only type of harassment I actually see online. Hopefully, if nothing else, they ramp up suspensions for accounts that cry wolf at everything that offends their delicate sensibilities.
I'd say the bigger and more nuanced fallout is from artists who don't like that X can now train their new AI on any art posted on the platform. A lot of artists are going to bluesky in protest so there might be meat to this exodus this time
> Posts art online in a public space > Is shocked that people are able to see that art Just as human artists can use other people's art as a reference, AI can do the same. If you don't want people seeing something, don't make it public.
What did you do to Razorfist of all people. I always assumed he'd consider using tweets he didn't like as an opportunity rather than something to run from.
@@decarabiaumbra560 Someone had posted a reply to one of his posts saying that the left wing craziness is needed to fight off the Matt Walsh christofascist regime, and I replied to them saying that I would rather live under Matt Walsh's theocracy than in a leftist hellhole. Which was not actually an endorsement of Walsh or his world view (which I have plenty of problems with), but just saying that the left is vastly worse. It's the only post I can remember in relation to Razorfist that wasn't just a tacit agreement or a repost. I've really missed not being able to see his stuff since.
IRL when you disagree with someone the most you can do (without breaking the law lol) is ignore them. You can't just snap your fingers and disappear them. I think too many people have gotten too used to that ability in the digital space and as such have an atrophied tolerance towards opposing views.
Considering most of these chronically online troglodytes only use the block feature to protect themselves while they obsessively stalk and snapshot everything you post through infinite burner accounts, I see this as an absolute win.
Don't know if this is how it'll work but wouldn't be great if it didn't tell them they were blocked? If you block someone who's trying to harass you they wouldn't know they were wasting their time. Websites can shadow ban you, why can't we shadow block?
I always thought blocking was lame, unless they're spamming and/or disrupting basic functionality. Otherwise, it's basically saying you can't handle mean words on a screen, and need reality curated and bubble wrapped for you.
I'll admit, hearing the nerf of the block button sounded stupid to me at first, but with someone rational providing the justification it at least seems like something worth a shot. Still leaves the other aspect about 'ownership of what's posted' as a touchy point, though.
The downside of this is you cannot remove bot accounts, cornbots, or potential art thieves which I still see daily. I still see this as pretty bad for anyone dealing with a potential ex or an IRL stalker. At least it is removing the echo chamber function.
A stalker would just use an alt account, unfortunately there's only so much you can do. And if you're getting harassed you should be notifying the authorities to begin with
Yeah, if someone is stalking then I will imagine they will be willing to go through the extremely high effort attempt of just creating an alt account on the internet. I fail to see how this change in the slightest affects bots or "Art theft".
@gsgunawan80 I wouldn't know. I have a 5 year old account that I literally only use to see adult content. Never posted or liked anything. I'd literally have to go figure out HOW to do either of those things.
Isn't it super easy to circumvent the block button anyways, like using an alt? Edit : Ace brought it up. But also raises the question if the victim really cares about harassment why not private the account?
@@Ragehaven Which is hilarious(ly sad) Instead of choosing the normal way out. E *_X_* iting out of the website (get it.) They instead choose to not allow the user to participate in conversation. Which is petty, and contradicts the rules of Twitter anyways.
@E.V.A.N-COProductions wouldn't have a clue. Don't actually use it, I had just hazard a guess as to why he's doing it. Can't say I disagree with the move. People hiding and lying behind a block button is cowardice.
He's not really changing much at all. Anyone who was blocked could always see someone's posts by logging out or getting an alt. People have been doing that for years, even before Elon ever came along. What do they have to hide, that they think the block button MUST hide their posts and not just prevent engagement?
Young women are more paranoid of stalkers than clinical schizophrenics, but the difference is that the schizophrenics are actually cautious about what they make public to the entire planet
It's how blocking works in *every single website in the world*. Twitter is the only website that had weird blocking behavior. And now they're making their block behavior consistent with every other website.
This basically turns the block option into what the mute button should've always been: you can see me, I can't hear you.
That's literally how the block button work on every other site. It only block the user from interacting with you, but your message is still publicly visible to everyone regardless if you block them.
@@n337Although it shouldn't block your ability to communicate with another user. A "message hidden" prompt is good enough.
@@E.V.A.N-COProductions exactly how discord functions lmao
@@n337exactly, if it claims to be a "public platform" that means everything you post should be available to everyone.
Youve been wrapped up in such petty nothings that you forgot the real reason for it: bots and annoying people
RUclips would be a paradise if I could block users on god
They will totally leave the site for cereal this time!....for about a day.
2 more weeks
Cereal?
@@IDESTROYER236 Old slang term for serious.
@@SlyGltch-vf5il do NOT make me feel old for the 79th time today
The NPCs are already spamming the butterfly. They have no clue how much worse bluesky is for muh safe space and privacy...
The way the idea was explained to me is if X is a digital town square, you are free to go there and publicly broadcast your message. However since you are publicly broadcasting your message you don't get to decide that certain people in the town square don't get to hear you.
I'd respect that if Twitter was truly handled like a free speech platform without needing to enroll, but the administration before nor Musk's administration show any true interest in that.
It's over, the university mrxist studies club has fallen, billions must get a part time job...
No please, it's hard enough to find a job without the market being flooded by twitteroids
@@TheTrains13 as long as you are semi litterate you are already more skilled then they are.
@@TheTrains13 Exactly what I thought. I don't need my boss to dangle both migrants and the twiteroti over me as my replacement should I arrive 6 mins late again, while still not firing the person who stares at the wall all day because at least "they?" show up on time.
Guess this means that far left activists will just retreat to Reddit and blue sky.
Good
Reddit is dumb. Let them have it.
if only
If only...
excellent, now we can have some autistic dudes to keep an eye on them and share whatever degeneracy the bluesky lefties will be engaging in.
The sheer inconsequential outrage from this change convinced me it was a good one. Blocking never deleted someone from the internet; it was trivial to circumvent. But the fact that these people believed that delusion, and built their subcultures around that, feels like it encouraged their character. Anything that strips them of that petulant mentality can only be good.
Actual integrity of thought requires practice. Time for them to work.
The church in your pfp looks like a bird.
Just adding an important point to the conversation
@@justinbuddy56 That's the point
@@tribacioustee2846 Crazy.
It always seemed like Blocking people was the main reason FOR the Echo Chamber's that has been "festering" for lack of better terminology.
Why'd you use the apostrophe there? Does "that" belong to Chamber? Do you mean "Echo Chamber is that"?
@@dirt_dert_durt So that way you know what word I have a lack of synonyms for.
@@The_General_Zubas but what is the plural for chamber?
@@dirt_dert_durt I thought it was a possessive noun! Friggan English.
@@dirt_dert_durt Dude, go be a Grammar Nat-Soc somewhere else.
I'm convinced the outrage to this offense is driven primarily by "African Man Bad."
If only we could apply that sentiment more broadly..
Left wingers when they have to see opposing viewpoints once again 😡
*Left-wingers when the Right can see their viewpoints once again
They're gonna be really upset when people can still screenshot their tweets and use them as evidence for their stupidity. Now, if only protected mode could be abolished. Or as I like to call it coward mode.
@@NewCanada We can only hope for that one day
I don't think left wingers want to see slurs on thier timeline
People are saying that this breaks Apple's and Google's app store policies, but it's the same exact system Discord uses. If someone blocks you, you can still see what they're saying, you just can't add reactions to the message.
It breaks their policies because an ‘evil’ man is saying they will do it.
Both stores have very vague definitions of what constitutes a block feature. Morons extrapolate whatever definition they want from the vagueness to shit on Elon and pretend like they somehow know better.
Alyssa Mercante screaming at the void right now.
You should have seen Tim Pool losing his mind about this while having no idea how the previous system was helpful to him
He made several posts on X and 2 videos if I remember well,hes beign a drama queen XD
Doesn't surprise me. Tim Pool might be a lefty disowned by the liberals and progressives for failing to comply 100% of the time, but he is still a lefty. Outrage is all he knows how to do. Ever notice how when something bad happens to a very dumb leftist, he's more angry about the optics being bad for liberals than he is glad that a bad person got what they deserved in this usually unjust world?
Tim, being controlled opposition, doesn't like anything that harms the left's ability to be duplicitous. He's good with things as long as they only serve to marginally help the right. But if something that truly matters comes up, like election integrity questions, the public square going back to being a public square, ect., he's dead set against it. I used to think he was just a fence sitter, but I've watched him for enough years to notice the pattern, now.
@@noanswer1864 Who is controlling Tim?
@@signa8 He's practically said it straight out before
Wait until the +oons who are mad about this find out their tweets could always be seen by people they've blocked.
All you have to do is open incognito mode or log out.
Honestly this is a nonissue.
Even if someone blocked you and you wanted to see their stuff you could just like create an alt account.
It never made any sense that blocking someone should make you entirely invisible to them. Preventing someone from interacting with or commenting on your posts makes complete sense, but anything beyond that is just silly
I can't edit on mobile browser, but I should add that the one exception where blocking someone should result in your posts becoming inaccessible to them is if your profile is set to private.
@@SethAbercromby Or if you are trying to prevent minors from seeing NSFW accounts, which is an argument I saw and agree with.
@@ericneuens Unless you are like a growing number of people who think minors shouldn't be online.
@@ericneuens I'd argue the site should have better NSFW tagging and age gating features/moderation instead of relying on blocking
@@Riley_Mundt Yeah, but the prevention of that is really hard and is mostly up to the parents who we know won't do much to monitor their children's activities.
I just think it funny that certain people are so mad at this that they are going to use a platform where currently you don’t need an account to see people’s posts.
lol aren't the people made at this going to bluesky
They’re totally serious this time. Totally.
Just like how they’ll totally move to Canada this time if Trump wins.
Yeah, I'm sure the addicts will drop the booze this time. They really, really, really promise
Sure, Elon's proposed changes to blocking could use a bit more refinement. I think it is telling that the first response of so many is to go "welp, moving to BlueSky LOL" and it is funny because years ago they were the "Twitter is a private company" crowd.
That's exactly how it should be. If you don't want a specific person viewing your post, make your account private. 🤷🏾♂️
Tim Pool said it puts his life in danger 🙄😒
It's complicated.
Does he know if his account is public anyone can see his tweets by logging off or using incognito mode?
If he thinks people seeing his hot takes is putting him in danger, he should stop using the platform to post his exact coordinates
@@mightyfineincredible2252 yeah imo that's why his take is so bad he says that doesn't matter because people don't really do that. He got ratio'd all over X
Tim's IQ is barely above room temperature. He knows the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground, so he's above most Marxists, but that's as far as it goes.
now you dont need to make an alt to view blocked tweets and this is a good change since blocking should just stop them from interacting with you
Typical, more people blowing things out of proportion.
For years I never blocked a single person, but over the last few months I’ve had to deal with so many tourists in the anime community that I’ve started to block these people.
I’ll usually block someone if they fill my notifications with just meme’s without saying anything with the meme. Or if I can tell they’re unable to separate fiction from reality & wont stop replying to me. Or if they post my pfp back to me without saying anything, that’s an instant block.
But I don’t care if that they can see my posts, just as long as I don’t get notifications from them.
This is honestly in our benefit. Allows us to ignore the tourists if we want while being able to protect us from their offensive blocks maneuvers to hide their campaigns like what they did to Chibi Reviews recently.
A reasonable take on a feature that is not 100% known/confirmed how it will work. And this topic shows not just leftist who have loose screws, some centrist like Tim Pool also got insane issues with it (in his case I'm simply blaming the beanie cutting off circulation).
At this point, all "centrists" are just controlled opposition. After everything that has happened in the past few years, it's impossible for a sane person to remain "in the center".
Feel like this will unintentionally serve to help people who wish to “cancel” people who aren’t woke enough.
This is exactly how block should always have worked. Not a hide button, an "I don't want to see your drivel" button.
Lol I can hear the leftoid screeching from here 😂
This is how it always should've been.
as it should always have been
this can also be useless as people can make or use another account to spy if they want.
At least they won't be able to use the block button to hide their actions from you.
@@ACE1918 i agree, I badly worded that your video covered the point right after i commented. the new key is thinking of how they will exploit this. offhand the only exploit is this forces them to make a new cesspool to hide in.
My main concern about this is that it will increase the amount of anime artists having their posts false flagged because blocking no longer prevents the Twitiots from seeing those posts
They can see them but can't interact with it so it should mean they also can't flag it because they are blocked otherwise that'll mess up the system.
@asandax6 I hope you are correct however I think the no interaction part only applies to commenting on and liking posts. I'm pretty sure blocked people can still report tweets if they can see them. There is already a problem of furries targeting anime artists on Twitter. Blocking them used to be the solution. I'm worried that might not work anymore with the new changes
Honestly, this is the only type of harassment I actually see online. Hopefully, if nothing else, they ramp up suspensions for accounts that cry wolf at everything that offends their delicate sensibilities.
@@decarabiaumbra560 agreed
Congrats elon, minors that were blocked by NSFW will see NSFW 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"That's it Elon, I'm leaving twitter, and this time I mean it!" - average leftist "activist"
I'd say the bigger and more nuanced fallout is from artists who don't like that X can now train their new AI on any art posted on the platform. A lot of artists are going to bluesky in protest so there might be meat to this exodus this time
You mean tumbler artists? Yeah no
how dare twitter do what.....literally every site on the internet does.
if those artists leave, they wont be missed.
M a g n i f i c e n t
> Posts art online in a public space
> Is shocked that people are able to see that art
Just as human artists can use other people's art as a reference, AI can do the same. If you don't want people seeing something, don't make it public.
I still can’t see Razorfist’s account after he blocked me, so it still seems unchanged to me.
Give it a minute.
Mightve been an accident, he blocks a lot of people unintentionally on his phone
What did you do to Razorfist of all people. I always assumed he'd consider using tweets he didn't like as an opportunity rather than something to run from.
@@decarabiaumbra560 Someone had posted a reply to one of his posts saying that the left wing craziness is needed to fight off the Matt Walsh christofascist regime, and I replied to them saying that I would rather live under Matt Walsh's theocracy than in a leftist hellhole. Which was not actually an endorsement of Walsh or his world view (which I have plenty of problems with), but just saying that the left is vastly worse. It's the only post I can remember in relation to Razorfist that wasn't just a tacit agreement or a repost. I've really missed not being able to see his stuff since.
@@Skyblade12 Yeah, that's a fairly ludicrous reason to block you. I can't imagine disliking Walsh to that extent
IRL when you disagree with someone the most you can do (without breaking the law lol) is ignore them. You can't just snap your fingers and disappear them. I think too many people have gotten too used to that ability in the digital space and as such have an atrophied tolerance towards opposing views.
"In the final stages, subject became erratic, violent, and really funny to watch."
Oh, Kiwi Farms is going to *love* this.
Hello. I don't use X or Twitter, so I have an actual question: people can just delete messages they want to hide, right?
Or set their account to private
@@oz_jones but how would i farm interactions and get that dopamine rush if i do that?
Considering most of these chronically online troglodytes only use the block feature to protect themselves while they obsessively stalk and snapshot everything you post through infinite burner accounts, I see this as an absolute win.
“I’m leaving Twitter forever this time…for reelz you guys!”
They should remove protected mode completely.
This sounds like a solid move.
Don't know if this is how it'll work but wouldn't be great if it didn't tell them they were blocked? If you block someone who's trying to harass you they wouldn't know they were wasting their time. Websites can shadow ban you, why can't we shadow block?
I always thought blocking was lame, unless they're spamming and/or disrupting basic functionality. Otherwise, it's basically saying you can't handle mean words on a screen, and need reality curated and bubble wrapped for you.
Just call it what it is. Twitter. It's literally no different to how before Elon bought it.
But, Elon likes X!
He's obsessed with the letter.
@@James_Bee SpaceX, X, X com, Generation-X... Wait that can't be right.
I'll admit, hearing the nerf of the block button sounded stupid to me at first, but with someone rational providing the justification it at least seems like something worth a shot.
Still leaves the other aspect about 'ownership of what's posted' as a touchy point, though.
Shives must be shitting himself.
This is really good! Now they need to reverse their decision to remove the ability to opt out of having your images be used for generated content.
Nah, let the leeches of society cope
Out of sight, out of mind. It shouldn't be changed.
Isn't the whole point of twitter to as many likes and retweets as possible?
Good. What people are saying should be seen and the block button has been used as a shield from criticism for too long.
I don’t really see an issue with this since you can just log out to look at any post anyway
based
If you just open the other person's post or account on a new tab you would achieve the same result. The change is being exagerated by most
You didn't have to make an alt account. Just open the link of the tweet you are blocked in a private window.
Last I checked, you still have to be logged in to see tweets at all.
@@FusionArmorX It depends. Sometimes you can see them without being logged in.
The downside of this is you cannot remove bot accounts, cornbots, or potential art thieves which I still see daily.
I still see this as pretty bad for anyone dealing with a potential ex or an IRL stalker.
At least it is removing the echo chamber function.
A stalker would just use an alt account, unfortunately there's only so much you can do. And if you're getting harassed you should be notifying the authorities to begin with
Yeah, if someone is stalking then I will imagine they will be willing to go through the extremely high effort attempt of just creating an alt account on the internet. I fail to see how this change in the slightest affects bots or "Art theft".
if this gives someone ammo on you i think you might have a oversharing problem to begin with
Good. If you can just log out to see stuff then it's not any different.
Can he buff the 'Not Interested' button?
So the right will see a sea of hateful rhetoric. And the left will see a bunch of hentai.
Damn. The left is getting the good end of the deal.
If it's the matter of not wanting to view certain people's tweets/replies, there's 'mute' function.
@gsgunawan80 I wouldn't know. I have a 5 year old account that I literally only use to see adult content. Never posted or liked anything. I'd literally have to go figure out HOW to do either of those things.
Noice
Interesting change to the meta. How will noobs respond?
But what about spam and pron accounts?
Only ones i ever block.
Isn't it super easy to circumvent the block button anyways, like using an alt?
Edit : Ace brought it up. But also raises the question if the victim really cares about harassment why not private the account?
I think it's more about sending a message. He has the power they don't
@@Ragehaven Which is hilarious(ly sad) Instead of choosing the normal way out. E *_X_* iting out of the website (get it.) They instead choose to not allow the user to participate in conversation. Which is petty, and contradicts the rules of Twitter anyways.
@E.V.A.N-COProductions wouldn't have a clue. Don't actually use it, I had just hazard a guess as to why he's doing it. Can't say I disagree with the move. People hiding and lying behind a block button is cowardice.
But will Block be useless against spam ads and corn! Wait actually the Blocker won't see them anymore but the bots can still see their data??
I'm pretty sure that if you block someone, you won't see anything from that person
So it only block them from DMing you, right?
Nope they can't reply to your posts or retweet them.
Razorfist on suicide watch
why
So is Steve Shives, bitshammer, and Dan slott.
@@cloaker2829He does seem to accidentally block his own fans if the weekly livestreams are anything to go by
Proof or ACK.
You think Razorfist blocks people so they can’t see his tweets? Like for real? You actually believe that? 🤡
Excuse me, what?!?
why are you faking your speech cadence to sound like 'Liberal Hivemind'
...posers are cringe
Apparently it violates android and apple TOS, so we'll see if it actually happens
Why change something that works and we are no longer in 2016 move on
Leftest: i can't keep my lies hidden anymore. Well, im leaving the platform for the 4th, no 5th, no 6th time for realzies this time 😤
baaaaaaaaaaaaaased
He's not really changing much at all. Anyone who was blocked could always see someone's posts by logging out or getting an alt. People have been doing that for years, even before Elon ever came along. What do they have to hide, that they think the block button MUST hide their posts and not just prevent engagement?
Young women are more paranoid of stalkers than clinical schizophrenics, but the difference is that the schizophrenics are actually cautious about what they make public to the entire planet
This is how its worked on 🍀chan for like a decade
It's how blocking works in *every single website in the world*. Twitter is the only website that had weird blocking behavior. And now they're making their block behavior consistent with every other website.