Miscommunication can work really well. A good writer can easily start out with a small case of miscommunication and build it up to write a good emotional conflict. The problem is that in a lot of anime, writers make use of this trope way too lightheartedly, resulting in poor plot lines that make you facepalm and think "All this could have been resolved if they just talked for two fucking minutes"
@@alpha-sama Yeah I agree. Misunderstandings that don't come from shenanigans but from fundamental character flaws make for fantastic character drama. Resolution would require active attempts at trying to understand each other, not just silly interruptions and blaming for the sake of creating false tension.
I'm surprised my most hated trope wasn't on the list: "accidental interruptions". I bloody hate it when two characters are having a moment, bonding, or taking their relationship to the next level, and then someone walks into the room, shouts from across the street, or bloody falls from the sky, interrupting them. It's the most infuriating thing ever. Dear author, I don't care you're scared that you won't have anything to write about in the future if you let things progress too quickly - just let my characters develop their relationship at their own pace!
this is so true, like really true. Like one example i saw recently was chika in love in war (yes i was super late to watch it), it was just so annoying and it was even in one of the opening videos
"let them develop at their own pace" its the authors pace though? did you forget these are stories and none of it is natural and its just the decisions of 1 or 2 people?
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 many authors write in a way they make characters and the story develops around those characters. Or they make a world and let the story develop by itself. Like - ok, what would happen next, how would these characters react to this situation? So the relationship have some natural pace. It is typical for character driven stories - you have the feeling that it is exactly how the character would react and that´s why the story is the way it is And you can have - ok - I want this and this and this to happen, and you drag your characters through the story. In this case, characters can act out of their own personalities because the author just needed to push them somewhere and if it is done badly, the audience always notice that the characters acted wierdly And then you have different attitude - ok, I need this supsension between those characters and they will always be "maybe" - like all those 90s series like X-files. I think there are many ways you can approach the writing, also depending on the purpose of your work.
No trope about when a character gets a drop of water on them, they automatically catch a cold or if a group of characters are in the woods, someone is sliding down a hill/cliff
@@subhashthapa909 i just Googled it now, The difference between a trope and a cliché is that tropes reflect pre-existing genre archetypes, and they're helpful to writers because they come from storytelling patterns that have worked well for generations. A cliché reflects patterns that are no longer effective, and can even be derogatory or damaging. A trope is a tried and true story element that people like, and nearly every story has one or several. A cliche just means something has been used too much first 2 results apparently jts just "do people like this, yes or no?" which is news to me
A good one I feel was omitted from the list: "Badass old guy" essentially an elderly figurehead-type character who turns out to be incredibly powerful. Tons of good examples in anime, many of which are some of the most fun characters in their series.
@@Shiki_Nanaya Roshi, Sarutobi, Jiraya, White Beard, Rilegh, Garp, Genkai, Silverfang (he's literally a parody of the trope), Zeus, I could go on all day...
I don't mind tragic backstories, but don't have them happen right before/after the character had died. Tell me a bit about the main cast before the arc properly starts. I always feel so manipulated when they drop the sad backstory out of nowhere
blue exorcist is the best example i've seen of this working well. it happens organically near the start of the story and continues to be an important motivator going forward
I think that a perfect example of making a tragic backstory would be the story of the city director in Ergo Proxy, it is not even a backstory we see the climax of the decline of his life pass at the beginning, we just don't realize that said event is related to him until the end of the anime and that hits hard when you realize that his motivations make very specific sense.
Absent parents are mostly necessary in the types of stories it is used in. You can’t really have an adventure if you’re parents want you to be safe. I think it would mostly detract from the story
Orphans are just cooler. I tried writing a story with loving parents once, but ran into so many complications. Tropes exist to get a story going and that's fine. Not everything about a story needs to be the most special thing ever written
@@kingsleycy3450 I like having 1-2 orphans, but even in a fantasy world, you can expect me to believe that everyone there doesn’t have parents, especially when the world is shown to be fairly safe.
When I think of tragic backstories, I think of Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal, Kizumonogatari, and Maison Ikkoku, which are some of my all-time favorites.
Time skip feels sometimes like a whole new anime, Naruto for example felt completely different, the stakes, the powers, and the maturity of the different characters, one piece has my favorite time skip, I still love og one piece but damn, the build up to the time skip was pure hype and watching the crew overpower their enemies after the time skip felt like they were smurfing, pure bliss.
We got some sunlight two days ago here in Michigan, 74 F in a fucking February in Michigan! But it was followed by a tornado ravaging parts of my city, and waking up to 28 F today...
@@shaunriordan493 It was nice being able to walk outside with just a shirt on, but it always concerns me when it gets unseasonably warm because it's almost always followed by something terrible, like a giant snow storm, or a tornado in this case, plus that shit can't be good for like the animals and plants n shit.
I remember when I was younger and I ALWAYS laugh at the "tripping and falling into boobs" trope and then now I just groan and this is coming from someone who thinks the steam/light censor is peak anime trope
He is right tho.... orange fur? Cunning? Mischievous? With an autumn theme? I think "wolf" is the wrong term. Also Foxgirls Wolf girls Catgirls Fight me.
Vinland Saga alone is enough to demonstrate how awesome time skips are, also my favorite trope as well, easily. Great way to refresh a cast/setting and give us something that's not HS. H/V teamup is also a great way to refresh the cast/plot and the tournament arc is just refreshing in general.
I would have to disagree. Timeskip is one of my favorite tropes and Vinland Saga's not the best example of it. I do agree that it's a good way to refresh the setting like you put it, but that is really it for Vinland Saga. Like Garnt said, my favorite part is seeing how much the characters grew, their new attacks and the mystery that comes with it. Vinland Saga's time skip is just a transition to get to the next narrative point in Thorfinn's life. Take Naruto for example, before the time skip, he's a little kid following instruction, and after the time skip, he's some kids senior in the village. That change in dynamics is pretty cool to see with the main characters, it's like the Naruto and Konohamaru dynamic. Later down the line, you'll see Konohamaru grown and act as the next generation's 'senpai' and inspiration, and I think that is what I like about time skip the most.
Cat ears are so good because it works so well when it comes to proportions and aesthetics. Biology didn't give them to real humans because it isn't evolutionary beneficial. But we can give them to anime characters because practicality doesn't matter and we can focus on cuteness
power of friendship anime : everyone watches the main character fight alone. then the main character realize he loves his nakama. everyone watching are touched and cry. continues watching the main character fight alone.
As a female anime watcher, all of the fanservicey type tropes go in F-tier for me. I definitely don't mind hot characters of either gender, but when it's constant panty shots or jiggle physics, it gets really annoying and at times disgusting and unnecessary. Even when it's fanservice of male characters, it just gets so stale so quicky and detracts from the story.
Real, like it just detracts from the story most of the time. It's alright if the characters are like, having a romantic moment or something, but otherwise it's just annoying.
Watching Jujutsu Kaisen made me want more filler episodes in anime. Every "emotional" moment on Shibuya had a flashback about something that easily could have been a filler episode on the show (the closer we got were the Jujutsu shorts on the first season and it was THE BEST PART OF THE WHOLE SEASON). Shaman King had a lot of filler (the old one) and it was great because the characters were great and expanden a lot about them. I just think that Naruto or Bleach style filler is so horrid, but if they add like 3-5 filler episodes between arcs, it could have been WAAAY better in some anime.
You know what show really proved that filler isn't always bad? Literally the Pokemon anime. I'm not caught up with the new series, but as an adaptation of a game about encountering hundreds of weird fantastical creatures and befriending/battling them, the well for filler is incredibly deep--here's a Pokemon we haven't shown off before, or not for a long time, and so every filler episode is a chance to show off someone's favorite Pokemon that otherwise there would have been no excuse to include. If Ash simply rushed from point A to point B doing only the stuff immediately relevant to the Pokemon League tournament, there just wouldn't be time to explore all of that--and besides, Pokemon is an RPG, of course there's gotta be some level grinding, right? I don't think anyone's out here calling it the best anime ever, but I think it gets a bad rap in part because of the filler, but also it has a better excuse to have filler than most shows do.
@@life-destiny1196 Those adventure type animes have always good excuses for filler in the journey. Fena: The Pirate Princess is one of those adventure-type shows that could have been 10 times better if it had good "filler"
Does anyone know where the trope of getting sick because of even slight rain/cold came from? It's always been so odd to me that despite having _almost_ zero real logic it seems to be in every single SoL/romance series ever
@@user-nc8iz7ff5rusually happens in comedy anime, like "Daily Lives of High School Boys", "World God Only Knows", "Gintama" and the like. Sometimes it's done with the whole scene transition or just a pop-up of a character in a corner sneezing (like a small bubble, with only that character in it going "achoo" and then that bubble disappears) You could also include people "getting chills" when someone's thinking about them, usually reserved, when they don't like the character, that's thinking about them.
@@user-nc8iz7ff5r it's a common joke in Japan. It's usually a one-off throwaway moment that never gets tons of attention. If you want specifics, off the top of my head MHA does it a few times where it'll snap to All Might or Aizawa right after someone talks about them and they sneeze in the teachers' office.
@@dominikmagnus I haven't watched any of these lol, I rarely watch comedy anime BTW in my country, if you have hiccups they say someone is missing you or thinking about you
The fang being S tier is so real. One of the smallest additions to a character that somehow adds a whole other layer of appeal that I cant get enough of
The most genius part of Jujustu Kaisen is that the world has built in lore where explaining your ability somehow makes its effects stronger if the opponent understands how it works etc. Its so genius. Sukuna even says in one scene "im not going to be petty and explain how my ability works"
Hey Garnt, Philosophy student here. The term "Deconstruction" comes originally from the writings of the French philosopher Jacque Derrida, who defined it in a purposely ambiguous way, because it essentially has to do with the inherently unstable meaning of language, so not knowing what deconstruction specifically means or whether something is or is not a deconstruction is part of the point. However, my own understanding after reading a whole lot of Derrida is that deconstruction is essentially the ability of a text to be taken apart into its different elements and re-construct its meaning in a way different than the original speaker or author intended the text to be read. A lot of Derrida's works are unconventional readings of texts in the western cannon, which go against their conventional meaning and find very different and new interpretations of them. In light of that, I would say that to use the term "genre deconstruction" appropriately, the work would have to be one which takes the tropes of the original genre and makes a new meaning out of them - for example, Gon is a quintessential Shonen protagonist, but he's so happy-go-lucky all the time in a world that's harsh and brutal because he's a bit of an amoral sociopath. It's not just subverting a trope - it's taking the trope as it is, but actually digging into it's possible meanings, conclusions, and logical extremes
When used to talk about a show as a whole, it's generally seen as a love letter but also a roast of the genre tropes. Eva being a teen mecha show, but instead of focusing on the mecha it's centered in the absurdity and psychological damage done to the kids. Madoka being......well everything in madoka being a call out of magical girl shows. But yeah, technically anything can be a deconstruction, as long as there's a level of self-awareness about it. Kill la kill is intentionally absurd. Generic Isekai of the week is generally not self-aware enough to realize what it's doing.
So if we took the top two tiers and made an anime out of it to create Garnt's dream anime it would be "Tournament of the Super Battle Onee-chan/MILF Harem!!!" the lead character would have an inner monologue, a trainng arch where they learn Power-ups and a fang.
I will say, filler episodes can be fun when they expand on the background characters using nothing but the data books, spin off books/light novels, or even the authors notes.
Not an anime but one of the most hype moments for me was those few minutes in Halo 3 when you team up with the Flood to stop the firing of the Ark. Hero-Villain Team Up is goat tier.
My favorite Demon Slayer specific trope is the 'my sickly mom/das'. Let's consider how many characters this applies to. Tanjiro, Rengoku, Muichiro, Akaza, Daki/Gyutaro, Yoriichi, literally the entire Ubuyashiki clan, and probably some other minor characters I forgot. Hell, Akaza even gets TWO sickly loved ones, lucky guy. You also have the characters themselves that were sickly, like Muzan, Rui, Tamayo, and Yushiro. Seriously, like over half of the tragic backstories involve a sick parent, and most of the rest it's the character themselves that are sick. It's literally a more common backstory than the 'demon massacre orphan' variety, though sometimes the two are combined. I just wanted to add this, since I found it hilarious.
I agree with filler episodes being D but sometimes and I mean sometimes they are great but that’s usually just in comedy animes or single episodes after shounen arcs to just see the characters chilling and having fun.
Time skips are pretty good most of the time. The ones that really killl it though are the very short form timeskips. I absolutly hate it when some shows tell the main characters they need to train or need to go somewhere far away only to entirely skip that time as if it never happened until the plot needs to come back to it.
I really hope someone has made a Spice Gigguk Dune meme. It just fits. Also in defense of the Babaloli, it can be used to good effect. Shinobu being this in Monogatari and particularly Kizumongatari is used to great affect. Her innocent appearance is underscored by a profoundly monstrous mind is good shit.
7:51 agree with jjk, reminds me of gojo vs toji fight. Gojo having an inner monologue like he's achieved enlightenment and explaining hollow purple was beautifully cinematic. They could have gone for a more violent, adrenaline filled scene but they went with this. 10/10
I think when a beach episode isn't just over sexualized characters but shows the main character and his friends having chill or fun vibes is a good and relaxing episode imo
I feel the "Running with toast in mouth" has by now just become a meme even within anime. It does still show up every once in a while, but always very much as a joke. I can't think of the last time I've seen it show up unironically though..
I think the problem of the most of these tropes is that authors experiment with much of them really rarely In a lot of counterexamples authors inspire by west or other media so they try to mix up this external experience with usual tropes to make something absolutely unique In other cases they just may ask "what if i do that instead of usual this" and it will work. At least until they forget about theirselves' own concepts
Re: Hero/Villain Team Up (29:30) In RL, I have to team up with my personal 'villains' quite a bit. Also, some of the tropes are comic book/manga ones. And this is one of those, X-Men Charles and Eric for example. Similarly inner monologues, power ups, tragic backstories...the list goes on.
The thing about absent parents is that their presence could often completely "solve" situations. Since you mentioned SAO imagine the parents being around when Asuna isn't truly released from the game by the creep developer/whatever and basically kidnapped. Kirito wants to do something about it but can't, imagine what having Asunas parents around would have done to that situation? This continues for tons of situations in a wide variety of manga/anime. Yeah sure the situations are probably stupid plothole zone anyhow, but always having absent parents ontop of it just makes it worse as a trope.
4:00 I think this has to do with the attack being magic-related or requiring some sort of encantation for it to charge up and work. It doesn't *have* to be this way, but if your brain associates it with the concept of shouting out the name being a requirement for the attack to work (or be more effective), then it would make sense, there's now a reason to do it, and as such it's not cringe anymore. For example, in Harry Potter movies, live action, they scream attack names, it's cool as shit, cuz there's some sort of logical reason behind it, that being the name/encantation strengthens the spell. Now this trope is very present in anime, *because* these kinds of magical attacks are very present in anime. However, this trope has become a thing even in moments where a person is doing a normal punch attack for example, I assume this is because the trope became so prevalent in anime that anime watchers became used to it and they can accept it on any attack at this point as long as its in anime form. It could even be used in a comedy manner, such as Anya's dodge ball attack in spy family.
I think it's pretty fair for a "on average" ranking. Naturally, each trope have its shining stars and burning garbage, so it would be impossible to rank otherwise. A couple notes on some of them that I find exceptional one way or another. I just mentally went through a lot of the MC of my favorite shows and... vast majority are not self insert material. I mean I would like what they have in the end(be it waifu or power), but the process to get there.... holy shit no. Leaving aside the extend of effort that would actually require for gaining power etc, there are just a lot of mental anguish and physical pain that needs to be pushed through. Every Fate story is dark as heck if you really think about it. Touma, Issei, Tatsuya and quite a number of others went through some serious shit. There are only a few that aren't as bad, mostly in romcom. And even there... I don't know if I can deal with the life style of, for example, Shirogane. Feels pretty draining and painful tbh. There are only two "thousand year old loli" that I like. First, Rory Mercury who is mostly loli in name only(literally even). Yes, canonically speaking she stopped aging at like 12 or something, but honestly she could just pass for a petite Asian woman. She doesn't feel loli in any other way and the loli bit is not why I like her. I just like red&black themed combat girls, like Kurumi and Tohsaka. So, I don't love her for being this trope, it is just happenstance. Second, Evangeline A.K. McDowell. Now this... the loli part is important and impactful. Long story short, she was robbed of her childhood, which affects her mental growth which is why the loli bit is important. At the same time, the thousand year old bit is important for the darkness within her, for it is the curse of timelessness that made her the way she is. It's a wonderful contrast that brings about a truly sympathetic character hidden under the façade of evil, power and sensuality. The trope is therefore plot relevant and character defining, thus well executed. When it comes to wincest, the only one I like is Mahouka. Because it actually ends up being an important plot point that have meaning. It is the result of the social and political environment of the world it is set in. Now, it's hard to say if the author thought it all the way through at the start, but at the very least it is retroactively rationalized in a believable way. But... I'm not sure if getting meta is even appropriate when considering the quality of a work.
There are a good amount of tropes that depend heavily on if they are well implemented or not, while some tropes just stand on their own. Things like explained mechanics, imoutos and fan service for example can be good.
I like the 1000 year old loli trope beautiful it makes Twitter mald and that's always fun to to see, plus the changes are usually funny and seeing a Girl act like a Granny is always interesting
The caveat regarding filler episodes is valid. The shikamaru shogi moment is one of my favorites in the entire series. Fillers are best used to give screen time and "worth" to existing characters and stories that either havent been explained or need more fleshing out to help give the main story weight.
You forgot the "Ultra Dense Male Character" trope. It's such an aggravating trope that is in almost every single anime and it applies to any male character regardless of their role. Not only does it block out love building, especially for a girl who is head over heels for them but it also makes them commit stupid acts like they don't have a brain.
Garnt puts beach episodes at B and says he enjoys onsei episodes even more, while straight up throwing filler episodes to thrash and saying it needs a tier lower than D :D
i think miscommunication is oveused
That's the worst trope in all of media
I don’t mind it, it can work really well, but it is a lot of the times not used well
Miscommunication can work really well. A good writer can easily start out with a small case of miscommunication and build it up to write a good emotional conflict. The problem is that in a lot of anime, writers make use of this trope way too lightheartedly, resulting in poor plot lines that make you facepalm and think "All this could have been resolved if they just talked for two fucking minutes"
@@alpha-sama Yeah I agree. Misunderstandings that don't come from shenanigans but from fundamental character flaws make for fantastic character drama. Resolution would require active attempts at trying to understand each other, not just silly interruptions and blaming for the sake of creating false tension.
Overused is an understatement. If this were a towel, it would be full of holes and barely holding on by a thread.
For Garnt there should be a "Sidney trope", animecharacter is white, blond hair, tsundere = sidney trope
look no further than ISUCA
HEYGUYS!!!
Tsundere!? Sydney!?
Basically, just a blonde Gyaru is Sydney
TSUNDERE? SYDNEY? I think you meant Yandere.
Another trope that gets me 90% of the time: Opening Song in Final Battle.
Kill La Kill did this perfectly
@@DJKokaKolaMob Psycho 100 will forever be burned into my soul
OPM season 1 is another great example
when it's done right ooh boy, it's so awesome
Sword Art Online Abridged is another of my favorite examples
I'm surprised my most hated trope wasn't on the list: "accidental interruptions". I bloody hate it when two characters are having a moment, bonding, or taking their relationship to the next level, and then someone walks into the room, shouts from across the street, or bloody falls from the sky, interrupting them. It's the most infuriating thing ever. Dear author, I don't care you're scared that you won't have anything to write about in the future if you let things progress too quickly - just let my characters develop their relationship at their own pace!
this is so true, like really true. Like one example i saw recently was chika in love in war (yes i was super late to watch it), it was just so annoying and it was even in one of the opening videos
"let them develop at their own pace" its the authors pace though? did you forget these are stories and none of it is natural and its just the decisions of 1 or 2 people?
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Yes, I did forget. I forgot long ago. Don't remind me.
It’s a job for people, they need to make money
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 many authors write in a way they make characters and the story develops around those characters. Or they make a world and let the story develop by itself. Like - ok, what would happen next, how would these characters react to this situation? So the relationship have some natural pace. It is typical for character driven stories - you have the feeling that it is exactly how the character would react and that´s why the story is the way it is
And you can have - ok - I want this and this and this to happen, and you drag your characters through the story. In this case, characters can act out of their own personalities because the author just needed to push them somewhere and if it is done badly, the audience always notice that the characters acted wierdly
And then you have different attitude - ok, I need this supsension between those characters and they will always be "maybe" - like all those 90s series like X-files.
I think there are many ways you can approach the writing, also depending on the purpose of your work.
Garnt put incest in C tier but it will always be S in his heart🗿
isn't that the reason why he married Sidney?
S for sexual predator?
@@sharebear421huh???
@@sharebear421 Incest is kinda consensual in anime ngl
XD
Hero/Villian team up is peakest of the peak of tropes.
Aizen + Ichigo
Obito + Naruto
Crocodile + Luffy
The Fucking Guts and Zodd team up in Berserk is still my favourite moment in all of manga
Best trope fr
Fr whenever ash and team rocket teamed up you know something was about to go down
I really liked the episode where Tom & Jerry teamed up against 3 kittens
Especially when it’s part of a villain redemption arc
Anti-Heian Plot Armour is the best trope.
Lol JJK reference?
Ha😂
"Ahh yes, the sukuna glaze technique I haven't used since-
shit, I'm always using it"
- Gege akutami
Aah yes, my anti weeb technique haven't used this since the heian era
Spawns in showers
‘Oh I was actually holding back the whole time’
No trope about when a character gets a drop of water on them, they automatically catch a cold or if a group of characters are in the woods, someone is sliding down a hill/cliff
Shoujo tropes could easily have a separate video 😂😂
Hmm
I think those are cliches and not tropes?
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 cliches are just IRL tropes
@@subhashthapa909 i just Googled it now, The difference between a trope and a cliché is that tropes reflect pre-existing genre archetypes, and they're helpful to writers because they come from storytelling patterns that have worked well for generations. A cliché reflects patterns that are no longer effective, and can even be derogatory or damaging.
A trope is a tried and true story element that people like, and nearly every story has one or several. A cliche just means something has been used too much
first 2 results
apparently jts just "do people like this, yes or no?" which is news to me
A good one I feel was omitted from the list: "Badass old guy" essentially an elderly figurehead-type character who turns out to be incredibly powerful. Tons of good examples in anime, many of which are some of the most fun characters in their series.
Cough* Yamamoto Genrusai cough* Netero
@@Shiki_Nanaya Roshi, Sarutobi, Jiraya, White Beard, Rilegh, Garp, Genkai, Silverfang (he's literally a parody of the trope), Zeus, I could go on all day...
@@emp100k Jiraya doesn't look that old plus he gives more of different vibes than these
That's my favorite,!
I don't mind tragic backstories, but don't have them happen right before/after the character had died. Tell me a bit about the main cast before the arc properly starts. I always feel so manipulated when they drop the sad backstory out of nowhere
demon slayer lmao
blue exorcist is the best example i've seen of this working well. it happens organically near the start of the story and continues to be an important motivator going forward
Demon slayer has the worst ones. Because they throw them in in the middle of a fight
I think that a perfect example of making a tragic backstory would be the story of the city director in Ergo Proxy, it is not even a backstory we see the climax of the decline of his life pass at the beginning, we just don't realize that said event is related to him until the end of the anime and that hits hard when you realize that his motivations make very specific sense.
Itachi i all I see with this. I mean I was fine with Obito, Nagato, and like every Naruto backstory but Itachi is just meh
"Harems turn the anime into a sport."
Fujoshis: Sports anime are my favorite harems.
"Vtubers are like wrestling with waifus"
Absent parents are mostly necessary in the types of stories it is used in. You can’t really have an adventure if you’re parents want you to be safe. I think it would mostly detract from the story
Orphans are just cooler.
I tried writing a story with loving parents once, but ran into so many complications. Tropes exist to get a story going and that's fine. Not everything about a story needs to be the most special thing ever written
@@kingsleycy3450
I like having 1-2 orphans, but even in a fantasy world, you can expect me to believe that everyone there doesn’t have parents, especially when the world is shown to be fairly safe.
Eh, y’all say this but there is an abundance of adventure stories with parents.
Sure, “no parents” makes it easier but it is far from “necessary”.
@@M.Nihankin key word being mostly
@@thomasffrench3639 sure, but we will have to agree to disagree. I don’t think they are mostly necessary. I think they’re sometimes convenient.
8:00 if garnt thinks jjk does a good job balancing ability exposition, just wait for Hakari.
You don't really need to understand his whole CT, just "He Gamble so good he gets invincible"
@@snowsanta7 I know that, but the amount of explanation Gege did for it was over the top
It felt like half of JJK season 2 was just explaining powers. I don't see the balance he is talking about.
@@2jacked2read
I remember having to look up a few explain videos to see wtf he was talking about
@@2jacked2readThat over explanation being annoying is literally a part of the technique
The animal girl ears are an “emotional hints and tricks” indicator
? people can tell emotion from anime girl cat ears??
or just that giving them cat ears generally means its a mischievous character?
When I think of tragic backstories, I think of Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal, Kizumonogatari, and Maison Ikkoku, which are some of my all-time favorites.
same, my first thought was Madoka, and that shit was fire.
Off topic but shoutout to shaft for making madoka and monogatari, still some of the greatest pieces of fiction i’ve ever experienced.
Nah Naruto is the best in backstory
Time skip feels sometimes like a whole new anime, Naruto for example felt completely different, the stakes, the powers, and the maturity of the different characters, one piece has my favorite time skip, I still love og one piece but damn, the build up to the time skip was pure hype and watching the crew overpower their enemies after the time skip felt like they were smurfing, pure bliss.
Signature attack is peak. I feel like I have seen it work in live action, but I cannot think of one.
It’s used a lot in Sentai shows.
@@Endershock1678 that is true, but I think I was thinking something like “Hulk Smash” working without any issue. It has come back to me after 4 hours
signature attack is reason most of action anime falls flat.
@@QWERTY-gp8fd lmfao okay sure buddy
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 how can u enjoy knowing how story goes lol. naruto spam clone and that weird blue ball until he wins
Gigguk coming in on a rough day is like finally getting some sunlight in mid March.
I feel you on that. Might have to start looking for another job after tomorrow so I needed this... Good luck bro
@@DerpyDerpums keep grinding man. Go after your dream. Even if it means moving back to a Jr role to work your way up while being actually happy.
We got some sunlight two days ago here in Michigan, 74 F in a fucking February in Michigan! But it was followed by a tornado ravaging parts of my city, and waking up to 28 F today...
@@Kodeb8 I feel that. I’m in Chicago, and that weather had all of us questioning life lol
@@shaunriordan493 It was nice being able to walk outside with just a shirt on, but it always concerns me when it gets unseasonably warm because it's almost always followed by something terrible, like a giant snow storm, or a tornado in this case, plus that shit can't be good for like the animals and plants n shit.
I remember when I was younger and I ALWAYS laugh at the "tripping and falling into boobs" trope
and then now I just groan
and this is coming from someone who thinks the steam/light censor is peak anime trope
Pantsu/ thigh POV is best trope good sir. I beg of you to ponder on it.
Did he really just call Holo the Wise Wolf a fox?
He is right tho.... orange fur? Cunning? Mischievous? With an autumn theme? I think "wolf" is the wrong term.
Also
Foxgirls
Wolf girls
Catgirls
Fight me.
Vinland Saga alone is enough to demonstrate how awesome time skips are, also my favorite trope as well, easily. Great way to refresh a cast/setting and give us something that's not HS. H/V teamup is also a great way to refresh the cast/plot and the tournament arc is just refreshing in general.
I would have to disagree. Timeskip is one of my favorite tropes and Vinland Saga's not the best example of it. I do agree that it's a good way to refresh the setting like you put it, but that is really it for Vinland Saga. Like Garnt said, my favorite part is seeing how much the characters grew, their new attacks and the mystery that comes with it. Vinland Saga's time skip is just a transition to get to the next narrative point in Thorfinn's life.
Take Naruto for example, before the time skip, he's a little kid following instruction, and after the time skip, he's some kids senior in the village. That change in dynamics is pretty cool to see with the main characters, it's like the Naruto and Konohamaru dynamic. Later down the line, you'll see Konohamaru grown and act as the next generation's 'senpai' and inspiration, and I think that is what I like about time skip the most.
Cat ears are so good because it works so well when it comes to proportions and aesthetics. Biology didn't give them to real humans because it isn't evolutionary beneficial. But we can give them to anime characters because practicality doesn't matter and we can focus on cuteness
Tournament arc when done right is S+ tier. Dark tournament and the flame of recca tournament come to mind
power of friendship anime : everyone watches the main character fight alone. then the main character realize he loves his nakama. everyone watching are touched and cry. continues watching the main character fight alone.
As a female anime watcher, all of the fanservicey type tropes go in F-tier for me. I definitely don't mind hot characters of either gender, but when it's constant panty shots or jiggle physics, it gets really annoying and at times disgusting and unnecessary. Even when it's fanservice of male characters, it just gets so stale so quicky and detracts from the story.
I’m ngl I like it sometimes and it gets overhated imo😅😅
Real, like it just detracts from the story most of the time. It's alright if the characters are like, having a romantic moment or something, but otherwise it's just annoying.
Garnt: Ara Ara = S Tier
Me remembering Sydney's 1hr Ara Ara Stream 💞
"Filler Episodes are dying out"
Pokemon anime in 2024: *Let me introduce myself*
Watching Jujutsu Kaisen made me want more filler episodes in anime. Every "emotional" moment on Shibuya had a flashback about something that easily could have been a filler episode on the show (the closer we got were the Jujutsu shorts on the first season and it was THE BEST PART OF THE WHOLE SEASON). Shaman King had a lot of filler (the old one) and it was great because the characters were great and expanden a lot about them.
I just think that Naruto or Bleach style filler is so horrid, but if they add like 3-5 filler episodes between arcs, it could have been WAAAY better in some anime.
You know what show really proved that filler isn't always bad? Literally the Pokemon anime. I'm not caught up with the new series, but as an adaptation of a game about encountering hundreds of weird fantastical creatures and befriending/battling them, the well for filler is incredibly deep--here's a Pokemon we haven't shown off before, or not for a long time, and so every filler episode is a chance to show off someone's favorite Pokemon that otherwise there would have been no excuse to include. If Ash simply rushed from point A to point B doing only the stuff immediately relevant to the Pokemon League tournament, there just wouldn't be time to explore all of that--and besides, Pokemon is an RPG, of course there's gotta be some level grinding, right?
I don't think anyone's out here calling it the best anime ever, but I think it gets a bad rap in part because of the filler, but also it has a better excuse to have filler than most shows do.
@@life-destiny1196 Those adventure type animes have always good excuses for filler in the journey.
Fena: The Pirate Princess is one of those adventure-type shows that could have been 10 times better if it had good "filler"
Does anyone know where the trope of getting sick because of even slight rain/cold came from? It's always been so odd to me that despite having _almost_ zero real logic it seems to be in every single SoL/romance series ever
Catgirls and Monster Girls should have been seperate tropes on this list. Even H tags agree, Kemonomimi and Monster Girl are separate tags!!
the friends who find out their lifelong friend is super powerful or special has always been one of my favorite tropes. i love the reveal.
For the signature attacks, I love how Nasu has given us a lore reason for Servants shouting out their weapon name when using their ultimate attack
If running with toast in mouth is a trope, I'd like to nominate "person sneezing when other people talk about them", it's really cute
I've never seen that in any anime could you name one please
@@user-nc8iz7ff5rusually happens in comedy anime, like "Daily Lives of High School Boys", "World God Only Knows", "Gintama" and the like. Sometimes it's done with the whole scene transition or just a pop-up of a character in a corner sneezing (like a small bubble, with only that character in it going "achoo" and then that bubble disappears)
You could also include people "getting chills" when someone's thinking about them, usually reserved, when they don't like the character, that's thinking about them.
@@user-nc8iz7ff5r Look up sneeze cut tvtropes, tons of examples there
@@user-nc8iz7ff5r it's a common joke in Japan. It's usually a one-off throwaway moment that never gets tons of attention. If you want specifics, off the top of my head MHA does it a few times where it'll snap to All Might or Aizawa right after someone talks about them and they sneeze in the teachers' office.
@@dominikmagnus I haven't watched any of these lol, I rarely watch comedy anime
BTW in my country, if you have hiccups they say someone is missing you or thinking about you
The fang being S tier is so real. One of the smallest additions to a character that somehow adds a whole other layer of appeal that I cant get enough of
The most genius part of Jujustu Kaisen is that the world has built in lore where explaining your ability somehow makes its effects stronger if the opponent understands how it works etc. Its so genius. Sukuna even says in one scene "im not going to be petty and explain how my ability works"
Hey Garnt,
Philosophy student here. The term "Deconstruction" comes originally from the writings of the French philosopher Jacque Derrida, who defined it in a purposely ambiguous way, because it essentially has to do with the inherently unstable meaning of language, so not knowing what deconstruction specifically means or whether something is or is not a deconstruction is part of the point. However, my own understanding after reading a whole lot of Derrida is that deconstruction is essentially the ability of a text to be taken apart into its different elements and re-construct its meaning in a way different than the original speaker or author intended the text to be read. A lot of Derrida's works are unconventional readings of texts in the western cannon, which go against their conventional meaning and find very different and new interpretations of them.
In light of that, I would say that to use the term "genre deconstruction" appropriately, the work would have to be one which takes the tropes of the original genre and makes a new meaning out of them - for example, Gon is a quintessential Shonen protagonist, but he's so happy-go-lucky all the time in a world that's harsh and brutal because he's a bit of an amoral sociopath. It's not just subverting a trope - it's taking the trope as it is, but actually digging into it's possible meanings, conclusions, and logical extremes
When used to talk about a show as a whole, it's generally seen as a love letter but also a roast of the genre tropes. Eva being a teen mecha show, but instead of focusing on the mecha it's centered in the absurdity and psychological damage done to the kids. Madoka being......well everything in madoka being a call out of magical girl shows.
But yeah, technically anything can be a deconstruction, as long as there's a level of self-awareness about it. Kill la kill is intentionally absurd. Generic Isekai of the week is generally not self-aware enough to realize what it's doing.
Would you say its more "If these tropes took place in a more rational world," version?@@DJKokaKola
So if we took the top two tiers and made an anime out of it to create Garnt's dream anime it would be "Tournament of the Super Battle Onee-chan/MILF Harem!!!" the lead character would have an inner monologue, a trainng arch where they learn Power-ups and a fang.
I will say, filler episodes can be fun when they expand on the background characters using nothing but the data books, spin off books/light novels, or even the authors notes.
Not an anime but one of the most hype moments for me was those few minutes in Halo 3 when you team up with the Flood to stop the firing of the Ark.
Hero-Villain Team Up is goat tier.
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@@fimy3268 Nani ga wakaranai desu ka?
My favorite Demon Slayer specific trope is the 'my sickly mom/das'. Let's consider how many characters this applies to. Tanjiro, Rengoku, Muichiro, Akaza, Daki/Gyutaro, Yoriichi, literally the entire Ubuyashiki clan, and probably some other minor characters I forgot. Hell, Akaza even gets TWO sickly loved ones, lucky guy. You also have the characters themselves that were sickly, like Muzan, Rui, Tamayo, and Yushiro. Seriously, like over half of the tragic backstories involve a sick parent, and most of the rest it's the character themselves that are sick. It's literally a more common backstory than the 'demon massacre orphan' variety, though sometimes the two are combined.
I just wanted to add this, since I found it hilarious.
In anime they're called tropes, in hentai they're Tags
Lmao
Why is bro kinda right? lol
When I hear "tragic anime backstory" my brain immediately pictures Naruto on the swing
6:49 this moment right here is pure comedy!
I agree with filler episodes being D but sometimes and I mean sometimes they are great but that’s usually just in comedy animes or single episodes after shounen arcs to just see the characters chilling and having fun.
"Ahegao face was never hot"
true
cringeworthy from the start
one trope which i think should have been included in the tier list is anime openings having spoilers
Madoka was a deconstruction and then became a new trope - being magical girl is suffering.
Joey would unalive Garnt in cold-blood if he saw the thumbnail showing Monogatari being D.
This individual really put loli next to filler episodes💀💀💀
"Timeskips are like highschool reunions"
I don't know about Garnt, but I think most people wouldn't put their high school reunions in S tier.
"Dead parents aren't the worst thing in the world." - Gigguk; 2024
Time skips are pretty good most of the time. The ones that really killl it though are the very short form timeskips. I absolutly hate it when some shows tell the main characters they need to train or need to go somewhere far away only to entirely skip that time as if it never happened until the plot needs to come back to it.
Those sound effects at 2:55 were from Sydney's ara ara vid, weren't they? I'd recognize that shit anywhere. Still can't believe I watched that.
11:41 idk why i immediately thought about re:zero. The use of absent there is something amazing, it hits
I really hope someone has made a Spice Gigguk Dune meme. It just fits. Also in defense of the Babaloli, it can be used to good effect. Shinobu being this in Monogatari and particularly Kizumongatari is used to great affect. Her innocent appearance is underscored by a profoundly monstrous mind is good shit.
Thank you for the trope ranking video!!
Garnt character development era is here
Still love attack names in Kamen Rider >w
I’m pretty sure that’s where it started, but yeah Kamen Rider is awesome.
He need to talk about the manga named: Rosen Garten Saga.
7:51 agree with jjk, reminds me of gojo vs toji fight. Gojo having an inner monologue like he's achieved enlightenment and explaining hollow purple was beautifully cinematic. They could have gone for a more violent, adrenaline filled scene but they went with this. 10/10
That thumbnail is a wild statement LMAO
Ain't no way Monogatari is D tier.
@@yossithe9031I think that was Ranking 1000 year old loli specifically in D tier
@@awatcher4965 I agree with that. I was talking about the thumbnail itself
@@awatcher4965 I though he liked Shinobu or am I thinking of thenanimeman......
I think when a beach episode isn't just over sexualized characters but shows the main character and his friends having chill or fun vibes is a good and relaxing episode imo
I was just looking up anime tropes yesterday lmao 😂talk about timing 😂
Great conclusions. Was a fun ride
Hero/villain team up is top 3 anime tropes
16:20 Garnt brings back his best VA work of Owl in Mashle
for the 1000 year old loli, I like it for the cute and must protect aspect like rika (higurashi) and kanna (miss kobayashi dragon maid)
I feel the "Running with toast in mouth" has by now just become a meme even within anime. It does still show up every once in a while, but always very much as a joke. I can't think of the last time I've seen it show up unironically though..
I think the problem of the most of these tropes is that authors experiment with much of them really rarely
In a lot of counterexamples authors inspire by west or other media so they try to mix up this external experience with usual tropes to make something absolutely unique
In other cases they just may ask "what if i do that instead of usual this" and it will work. At least until they forget about theirselves' own concepts
loli shinobu best girl
Garnt once again reinforcing the name of his podcast
Blud was scared to voice his opinion lol. Look at his chat
90%+ compatible with my values. Thank you for setting a nice standard sir.
Fireworks at the end episode of the season deserve a spot here
My Dress Up Darling
Garnt: *puts loli shinobu on D Tier
Joey: "I felt a great disturbance in the force..."
Disappointed that taking care of your crush when they're sick didn't make the list. It's the ultimate romance anime trope.
The Essential Guide to Garnt's brain.
Fanservice is a straight F . For fairy tail
Re: Hero/Villain Team Up (29:30) In RL, I have to team up with my personal 'villains' quite a bit.
Also, some of the tropes are comic book/manga ones. And this is one of those, X-Men Charles and Eric for example. Similarly inner monologues, power ups, tragic backstories...the list goes on.
The thing about absent parents is that their presence could often completely "solve" situations. Since you mentioned SAO imagine the parents being around when Asuna isn't truly released from the game by the creep developer/whatever and basically kidnapped. Kirito wants to do something about it but can't, imagine what having Asunas parents around would have done to that situation?
This continues for tons of situations in a wide variety of manga/anime. Yeah sure the situations are probably stupid plothole zone anyhow, but always having absent parents ontop of it just makes it worse as a trope.
4:00 I think this has to do with the attack being magic-related or requiring some sort of encantation for it to charge up and work.
It doesn't *have* to be this way, but if your brain associates it with the concept of shouting out the name being a requirement for the attack to work (or be more effective), then it would make sense, there's now a reason to do it, and as such it's not cringe anymore.
For example, in Harry Potter movies, live action, they scream attack names, it's cool as shit, cuz there's some sort of logical reason behind it, that being the name/encantation strengthens the spell.
Now this trope is very present in anime, *because* these kinds of magical attacks are very present in anime.
However, this trope has become a thing even in moments where a person is doing a normal punch attack for example, I assume this is because the trope became so prevalent in anime that anime watchers became used to it and they can accept it on any attack at this point as long as its in anime form. It could even be used in a comedy manner, such as Anya's dodge ball attack in spy family.
16:10 now we have another reason why he likes chained soldier so much
I think it's pretty fair for a "on average" ranking. Naturally, each trope have its shining stars and burning garbage, so it would be impossible to rank otherwise.
A couple notes on some of them that I find exceptional one way or another.
I just mentally went through a lot of the MC of my favorite shows and... vast majority are not self insert material. I mean I would like what they have in the end(be it waifu or power), but the process to get there.... holy shit no. Leaving aside the extend of effort that would actually require for gaining power etc, there are just a lot of mental anguish and physical pain that needs to be pushed through. Every Fate story is dark as heck if you really think about it. Touma, Issei, Tatsuya and quite a number of others went through some serious shit.
There are only a few that aren't as bad, mostly in romcom. And even there... I don't know if I can deal with the life style of, for example, Shirogane. Feels pretty draining and painful tbh.
There are only two "thousand year old loli" that I like.
First, Rory Mercury who is mostly loli in name only(literally even). Yes, canonically speaking she stopped aging at like 12 or something, but honestly she could just pass for a petite Asian woman. She doesn't feel loli in any other way and the loli bit is not why I like her. I just like red&black themed combat girls, like Kurumi and Tohsaka. So, I don't love her for being this trope, it is just happenstance.
Second, Evangeline A.K. McDowell. Now this... the loli part is important and impactful. Long story short, she was robbed of her childhood, which affects her mental growth which is why the loli bit is important. At the same time, the thousand year old bit is important for the darkness within her, for it is the curse of timelessness that made her the way she is. It's a wonderful contrast that brings about a truly sympathetic character hidden under the façade of evil, power and sensuality. The trope is therefore plot relevant and character defining, thus well executed.
When it comes to wincest, the only one I like is Mahouka. Because it actually ends up being an important plot point that have meaning. It is the result of the social and political environment of the world it is set in. Now, it's hard to say if the author thought it all the way through at the start, but at the very least it is retroactively rationalized in a believable way. But... I'm not sure if getting meta is even appropriate when considering the quality of a work.
There are a good amount of tropes that depend heavily on if they are well implemented or not, while some tropes just stand on their own.
Things like explained mechanics, imoutos and fan service for example can be good.
No Truck-kun is a shame
I like the 1000 year old loli trope beautiful it makes Twitter mald and that's always fun to to see, plus the changes are usually funny and seeing a Girl act like a Granny is always interesting
Need to see Garnt rank tournament arcs.
This is legit lovely Gigguk content
The caveat regarding filler episodes is valid. The shikamaru shogi moment is one of my favorites in the entire series. Fillers are best used to give screen time and "worth" to existing characters and stories that either havent been explained or need more fleshing out to help give the main story weight.
The best beach "episode" I watched recently was from Jujutsu Kaisen
If you know, you know
this video really only going up to 720p :o
I'm guessing that's just a technical difficulties thing, it's aight
He put isekai in B tier. This isn’t the real Garnt.
You forgot the "Ultra Dense Male Character" trope. It's such an aggravating trope that is in almost every single anime and it applies to any male character regardless of their role. Not only does it block out love building, especially for a girl who is head over heels for them but it also makes them commit stupid acts like they don't have a brain.
the middle Shinobu is the best, I think I've only seen her in one scene but she was mostly Karen and oh boy, gimme more of that
Man demon slayer and their villain backstories😂
Garnt puts beach episodes at B and says he enjoys onsei episodes even more, while straight up throwing filler episodes to thrash and saying it needs a tier lower than D :D
16:19, that's the peak Gigguk voice acting right there.
Garnt: "Holo is a fox"
Me: You had one job! It's in he fucking NAME! Spice and mo'fuckin' WOLF!
I have a special nostalgic place in my heart for Roshi and Nosebleeds.
“It’s weird cause running in toast with mouth” 28:19
Yeah Boruto would be kinda okay if it's not full of filler, I heard they're doing seasons for the TBV? If that's the case I might pick it up again.
They gave screaming out attack name an in universe significance in Dandadan......and I love that...