Engine Problems With My GTI MK7 | Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • In this video, my Volkswagen MK7 GTI is having some engine issues. Jimmy scans the codes on the GTI and we think it may be an oil pressure sensor, we bring it to local mechanic Automotivation to try and diagnose what is exactly is going on.
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Комментарии • 167

  • @trapcracker
    @trapcracker 4 года назад +50

    Just wanted to drop a comment on how good that mechanic’s communication and people skills are. Sometimes they get a bad rep but you can tell he goes about things the right way. Big thumbs up.

  • @tedk4605
    @tedk4605 4 года назад +60

    Brandon's professionalism is through the roof

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад +5

      He was awesome and would highly recommend him.

  • @freshoutafolsom20
    @freshoutafolsom20 4 года назад +1

    One hell of a professional every mechanic needs to take notes i dont work in the industry anymore but id work in this man's shop any day

  • @icurt06
    @icurt06 4 года назад +17

    Contact the Humble Mechanic on RUclips. He's the man when it comes to Volkswagens!

  • @patrickbyr
    @patrickbyr 4 года назад +3

    I feel for you man. Love the channel. I just bought a ‘17 GTI as a weekend/track car and this is my biggest nightmare. Even being careful when buying a used car there are no guarantees. Good luck!

    • @rambow70
      @rambow70 4 года назад +2

      I've got a 17 GTI and same lol. I'm just hoping that as long as I put Motul or Liqui Moly in it every 5k miles I should be good

  • @peytonallie9604
    @peytonallie9604 4 года назад +1

    That is a very great price for that cambridge seal repair, Brandon is a beast.

  • @benkirkham2017
    @benkirkham2017 4 года назад +9

    I'm crying already and it's 30 seconds in

  • @dirk5950
    @dirk5950 4 года назад +5

    Never seen your channel before but as soon as I saw low oil pressure I was like "Bet it's a manual!" Sure enough the manager hops in and you can see it's a stick. I haven't made it to the end of the video but I already know it has crankwalk. Did I hear upgraded clutch? Yup, that'll make it happen much faster. I'm not sure with the extensive accounts of this happening why anyone buys a MK7 with a stick.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад

      Welcome to the channel!

    • @Cheo.M
      @Cheo.M 4 года назад +1

      ... because it's better...

    • @ur2slob724
      @ur2slob724 4 года назад

      @@Cheo.M better at what going slower?

  • @TomyBuckets
    @TomyBuckets 4 года назад +2

    Good thing you know a guy that fixes salvage cars :)

  • @camai75
    @camai75 4 года назад +3

    So much is so wrong...DONT EVER DRIVE IT WITH LOW PRESSURE WARNINGS!! If its KNOCKING>>>DONT DRIVE IT!!!Put a pressure gauge on it and see what the pressure is..this requires pulling the sensor. After oil pressure is checked, drop the pan and look for foreign material in the pan or on the pickup tube...

  • @eddiemk7418
    @eddiemk7418 4 года назад +15

    Its called clutch chatter, due to the SMFW.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 4 года назад +2

      Nope, watch part two.

    • @eddiemk7418
      @eddiemk7418 4 года назад +3

      @@gpaje clutch chatter due to the southbend stage 2 clutch. I know what I'm talking about. I have one on my car.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 4 года назад +4

      @@eddiemk7418 They found the half crank thrust washer in the oil pan, I think we are talking about two different issues here. Watch part two. The crank is essentially moving around.

    • @parhamdibajnia8048
      @parhamdibajnia8048 4 года назад +1

      gpage you have no idea what you’re talking about

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 4 года назад +3

      @@parhamdibajnia8048 Watch part two of his video so you can understand that I actually know more than you at this point. Spoiler Warning........His motor needs to be replaced, likely caused by the Southbend Stage 2 Clutch.

  • @YGOandMasterDuel
    @YGOandMasterDuel 4 года назад +1

    Loving this videos. Keep up the good work. These videos are helping me a lot.

  • @amyotterness1906
    @amyotterness1906 4 года назад +10

    So glad I fought and fought for my husband to not buy this car. Well I lost as you see but he lost too haha. And yes I saw that you said you love this car. I think we should just blow it up at this point, who’s with me? 🤣

    • @dirk5950
      @dirk5950 4 года назад +2

      You should have fought for the DSG. They don't have this issue.

    • @amyotterness1906
      @amyotterness1906 4 года назад +2

      Dirk he needs a Honda or something practical lol.

    • @oyurcha1
      @oyurcha1 4 года назад

      Blowing it up would be cheaper than fixing it. It'll also ensure that there will be no other problems long term......

  • @dolamyte
    @dolamyte 4 года назад

    My '18 GTI makes a similar sound that goes away when you depress the clutch. Sounds like the bottom end clanking around. I did an oil analysis with the first change and had metal and other issues, happy to compare notes if you want. I'll see what the upcoming second change looks like, but following cause of identical issues minus the oil pressure one.

  • @burb17
    @burb17 4 года назад +2

    Aftermarket clutch equaled bad thrust bearing. ???

  • @rob5631
    @rob5631 4 года назад

    Golf R time! Unfortunately you have to pay to play and accept the risk when you tune your car. I would just part it out and start off with a new R with a warranty. Also resist the urge to tune it. This video has reinforced my decision to not tune my Golf R. I came from a MK 7 GTI too and the stock R is plenty of power to have fun. Plus the engine is built in Europe with maybe better parts? (I have nothing to back that up with) Good luck whatever you decide to do.

  • @Paolo0902
    @Paolo0902 4 года назад +1

    Sorry to say this, but probably the best option is to get new engine. I think that will be cheaper than rebuilding this one (money wise).

  • @joespittle1
    @joespittle1 4 года назад +4

    You're a detailer, so why is you're steering wheel greasier than a Big Mac🤔

  • @MartyBlaha100
    @MartyBlaha100 4 года назад +2

    It is always BIG issue when TSi engine goes wrong and it cost a lot!

  • @DudeVW
    @DudeVW 4 года назад

    I worked at vw and we had a stage 3 gti come in. Same problem with the clutch chatter. Dude ended up replacing the motor, crank broke.

  • @LouieP1110
    @LouieP1110 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like the beginning of crank walk to me. All the best

  • @zoheb718
    @zoheb718 4 года назад

    Id def recommend throwing an oil catch can setup for the blow by.

    • @SR-xk3oy
      @SR-xk3oy 4 года назад

      Totally unnecessary if he’s not seeing lots of track use. The inline ones are almost always dry, and the PCV replacement ones (Racingline, Spulen) full you because the stock PCV valve has an oil separator so it just dumps in together.

  • @DanJLeh
    @DanJLeh 4 года назад +5

    Typical stick mk7 issues. Crank walk for days.

  • @littleramfan
    @littleramfan 4 года назад

    Damn I’m in the same boat, have a 17 gti, timing guides went and jumped timing! And somehow oil pump went simultaneously! Now gotta check bearings too. The more I tear into it the more problems I find! It sucks! 😕

  • @HuckleBerry476
    @HuckleBerry476 4 года назад

    In all seriousness... That tech was seemingly legit!

  • @mikematherly1313
    @mikematherly1313 4 года назад

    I bet it’s crank walk jr14 had the same issues your having maybe alil worse on his car but vary similar

  • @djfx549
    @djfx549 4 года назад

    @Chicago Auto Pros - when is part 2 dropping?

  • @laynetrout8150
    @laynetrout8150 4 года назад

    Seeing things like this kind of worries me. Just picked up my first GTI a month ago. 2020. I’m hoping I can get many, many years out of it.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад

      Then don't mod it!

    • @laynetrout8150
      @laynetrout8150 4 года назад

      Chicago Auto Pros So far my plan is to at least make it a year without tuning but that stage 1 is always tempting haha!

    • @HotHatchHero
      @HotHatchHero 4 года назад

      Mine is a 2017 autobahn, traded in a 2016 SE under lemon law due to rust through the paint on the roof. Didn’t deter me from VW as all manufacturers have lemons. I change my oil every 5k, I know they recommend every 10k but the oil in my 2016 was black at 7k miles and I don’t drive mine hard. Once you get this sorted I would highly recommend more regular maintenance. Especially since your car is tuned , this would help immensely with longevity.

    • @HotHatchHero
      @HotHatchHero 4 года назад

      Almost 50k miles no issues whatsoever

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад +1

      @@HotHatchHero I also had zero issues at 50k. The issue was not maintenance here. Watch part two.

  • @justincaballero1420
    @justincaballero1420 4 года назад +1

    First mechanic sounds like a total air head so unprofessional, second guy explained it better than anyone else could!

    • @FIDDYgg
      @FIDDYgg 4 года назад +1

      First "mechanic" was his front desk manager at the detailing shop just helping him do some DIY diagnostics.

  • @genadiolopez8281
    @genadiolopez8281 4 года назад

    Chatter on the clutch is the throw out bearing.

  • @Dragg0
    @Dragg0 4 года назад

    Sooo sad man. Basically the engine blow. Oil on the spark plug chamber 😱.

  • @polverlinden2609
    @polverlinden2609 4 года назад +1

    You have to clean that shiny steering wheel

  • @darrengooding8785
    @darrengooding8785 4 года назад

    awwwww dude im gutted for you, they can be a cruel mistress at times

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 3 года назад

    Vw what can i say.. peoples car so cant be that great. Here is ausie land there are few of them around. When they work they are good but more often they have engine issues. And that is not just gti, we had the super and turbo 1.4l in lower end models. What a disasters that was after 4 to 5 years. Also the reason why i dont buy Audi's.. same issues.

  • @Bawla187
    @Bawla187 4 года назад

    I have a later prodctn model 17' manual, bought new. Guess I won't be getting it modded🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @ENSYYSNE
      @ENSYYSNE 4 года назад +1

      That’s what I’m thinking man there are hundreds of problems. Terrified to do anything

  • @dirk5950
    @dirk5950 4 года назад

    Cam cradle reseal is about $1k in labor BTW. Anyone who says it's a simple job doesn't know this car.

  • @ajjax89
    @ajjax89 4 года назад

    No warranty? Didnt you get the car from dealership?

    • @domiggy4455
      @domiggy4455 4 года назад

      I believe the tune on the car voided the warranty.

    • @ajjax89
      @ajjax89 4 года назад

      @@domiggy4455 cant take the tune off and set it back to stalk? But damn.. sucks.

    • @domiggy4455
      @domiggy4455 4 года назад

      @@ajjax89 Once you tune your car, your VIN is flagged through VW. He could always try it anyway. I just recently went stage 2 on my 2018 gti. I'm going off of what I've read from numerous sources.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад +4

      It's over the mileage for warranty.

    • @ajjax89
      @ajjax89 4 года назад

      @@ChicagoAutoPros oooouch!!! :/

  • @ismaeljrp1
    @ismaeljrp1 3 года назад

    Lol, why would you tell him to take notes of the codes, just take a picture of the snap on screen.

  • @Chuckles4200
    @Chuckles4200 4 года назад

    Wow 539 just to tell you take it to a pro?

  • @dxdevan9022
    @dxdevan9022 4 года назад

    Mo powha bebe !!

  • @Nevaeh178
    @Nevaeh178 4 года назад

    Add an oil catch can

  • @onlyLyneex
    @onlyLyneex 4 года назад

    Sry but the one at Auto pros doesn’t have a real plan what he’s talking about

  • @Coldheart1903
    @Coldheart1903 4 года назад +5

    Sell it...and get a Honda.

  • @themachine8009
    @themachine8009 4 года назад +3

    That mechanic sucked Jason. Scotty would’ve been able to fix it. Of course he would’ve said whoever u bought that car from beat it up and that u paid too much cuz VW really don’t have any resale value.
    He also would’ve said that VW r endless money pits and rolling piles of junk as they age.
    If I were u I’d tow it to Houston and u can say u have ur car fixed by Scotty.
    This is why I don’t go to mechanics, they will ream u seven ways to Sunday.

    • @urabusliberty9258
      @urabusliberty9258 4 года назад +2

      Vws have good resale and are reliable so stop blindly listening to a senile old man

  • @Perceni
    @Perceni 4 года назад

    First mechanic ripped you off

  • @TheFlyingPLiner
    @TheFlyingPLiner 4 года назад +4

    $539 and they didn't even conclusively fix anything?!? Go on vwvortex and get a recommendation for a good shop near you.

    • @japjoe7
      @japjoe7 4 года назад +2

      Diagnosis of that nature isn't free. "It was more than just an oil change, they did a pressure test and installed the new plugs."

  • @joespittle1
    @joespittle1 4 года назад

    10:11, hehehe

  • @2011chitsazzadeha
    @2011chitsazzadeha 4 года назад

    Wow this guys has no idea what he's talking about lmfao. The oil pressure sensor is located in an area that sees oil pressure, crankcase pressure isn't gonna make it leak oil out of the sensor threads.

  • @mrud4248
    @mrud4248 4 года назад +4

    It's a WV what did you expect

  • @thomask3076
    @thomask3076 4 года назад

    This problem will cost you around 5.000-8.000 $

  • @juanito2288
    @juanito2288 4 года назад

    Common VW problems

  • @Deaddriftbum
    @Deaddriftbum 4 года назад

    “20 dollar scan tool I paid 2,000 more for”. Eh not quiet but yeah SnapOn charges your the premium of warranty and tool truck service. But you buy a 20 dollar Amazon special scanner and compare it to your SnapOn scanner you’ll see the differences real quick

  • @celli351
    @celli351 4 года назад +1

    It's a VW what do you expect

  • @joespittle1
    @joespittle1 4 года назад

    11:41, not hard to pronounce, it isn't "ahdi" its "owdi" I'd expect better from a mechanic

  • @mycarpultunnel
    @mycarpultunnel 4 года назад +28

    Thank you for documenting this process. I have 15' GTI manual. This is like the worse case scenario for a first time vw owner. My car has 85,000 on the odo, and Ive been so meticulous with services. I really hope this experience doesn't sway you away from GTI jason!

    • @danielfl.9347
      @danielfl.9347 4 года назад +1

      Keep it original and it will outlast many other cars, even if you beat it. Just service it. 2.0 TSI is a workhorse, but dont go past stage one

    • @elijahwest99
      @elijahwest99 3 года назад

      @@danielfl.9347 I have 2017 Jetta gli . So don’t go pass stage 1? I wasn’t going to anyway

    • @danielfl.9347
      @danielfl.9347 3 года назад

      @@elijahwest99 Yeah I would say to avoid it. The engine is very strong, but people tune them too much.
      Just keep service OK and enjoy it

    • @elijahwest99
      @elijahwest99 3 года назад

      @@danielfl.9347 your saying avoid tuning all together and enjoy stock or avoid anything over stage 1

    • @danielfl.9347
      @danielfl.9347 3 года назад +1

      @@elijahwest99 Do not go over Stage 1+ (remap + exhaust + air filter).

  • @shongthoj
    @shongthoj 4 года назад +7

    my GTI was consuming a bunch of oil took it to the stealership and they said it needed a new engine of course i gave them the finger and walked out

  • @1stfrompuertorico568
    @1stfrompuertorico568 4 года назад +6

    With any vehicle that you like sucks when things start breaking down when you take care of it. I feel you Jason brother man!!
    Great you know someone who is an expert in it.
    Xoxo from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷

  • @derek723
    @derek723 4 года назад +5

    sounds a lot like JR14's experience with his manual MK7. might have crank walk my friend

  • @kespiet7734
    @kespiet7734 4 года назад +6

    500 dollars for oil change holy moly. I think they found no metal but gold

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад +4

      It was more than just an oil change, they did a pressure test and installed the new plugs.

  • @CatonsvilleCentralRwy
    @CatonsvilleCentralRwy 4 года назад +4

    hasn't anyone done a compression/leakdown test on the oily cylinder?

  • @dirk5950
    @dirk5950 4 года назад +5

    I skipped over the mechanic because he was just making guesses. I'm at the end. Go ahead and add a zero onto that final bill. Sorry man.

    • @the_OCD_Garage
      @the_OCD_Garage 4 года назад +5

      You know this mechanic (not a technician) knows nothing when he spends more time talking then looking at the car. 600$ bill for him talking for 30 min plus an oil change, what a rip off.

    • @themachine8009
      @themachine8009 4 года назад +1

      Dirk same here. I knew he was gonna get ripped off by him

    • @zubastik2992
      @zubastik2992 4 года назад +1

      It would've been fine if he could actually fix it instead of sending him on his way to a VW specialist. If you know nothing about VW why did you even wasted his time

    • @themachine8009
      @themachine8009 4 года назад

      Alex Shnaider exactly. U hit on the nail. Right off the bat, he knew he couldn’t fixed it and still bs him for $600

  • @acefighterpilot
    @acefighterpilot 4 года назад +4

    Oh, look. Another EA888 with an aftermarket clutch and crank walk. Time to find another engine.

    • @ENSYYSNE
      @ENSYYSNE 4 года назад

      I’m new to them I’m assuming this is ongoing? What factors are in play, just aftermarket clutch?

    • @acefighterpilot
      @acefighterpilot 4 года назад +1

      @@ENSYYSNE Look on VWVortex. Stock clutch is rare, but has happened, aftermarket clutch, it's not an if but a when. Very rare for DSG cars.

    • @HealthyMotherfcker
      @HealthyMotherfcker 3 года назад +1

      @@acefighterpilot that is total horse shit. There have been a TINY amount of cars that this has happened to…

  • @rondhole
    @rondhole 4 года назад +1

    Sorry man...., It is GTI, and it is NOT made in Germany with Germans precision. If you want sophisticated midgrade German cars, get it that it is still made in Germany. Get simpler robust design cars that everyone in the planet can built it right like Toyota, Honda, or Mazda. Or at least with much less sophisticated things like Skoda (cheaper VW).

  • @MyGuyKirby
    @MyGuyKirby 4 года назад +1

    At 8:00 Jimmy was so right, that was never right on the clutch noise. You have one flywheel and one clutch plate making contact. Oh what a learning curve this one turns out to be!

  • @shoaybyusuf9895
    @shoaybyusuf9895 4 года назад +1

    Duuuude, I’ve had THE EXACT SAME issue with my MK5 GTI my hats off to you bro I’m on my second engine

  • @millefune
    @millefune 4 года назад +1

    Mechanical problems with a German car... not surprised. Sad this happened to a good person.

  • @filipegil8752
    @filipegil8752 4 года назад +3

    German cars are only good too lease. 4 years, 60k, move one. After that, money pits... 🥴
    Sorry Jason, I do hope you get the best outcome possible out of this 👍

  • @seussyyy
    @seussyyy 4 года назад

    Lmao the rape on shop labour is real

  • @bladerunner6662
    @bladerunner6662 4 года назад

    This truly sucks. I have a DSG MK6 APR stage 2. A month ago I got a CEL and thought I had fixed it by replacing the PCV. Nope, turns out the rear main seal needed to be replaced. And two years before that I had to replace the DSG mech unit. $$$$.

  • @Spirit2TT
    @Spirit2TT 4 года назад

    Its called NVH for the Single Mass Flywheel, chatter is normal. Same happens when you install dogbone to tighten up transmission and motor. Install a harmonic damper crankshaft pulley from fluid ampr to limit NVH

  • @jq1560
    @jq1560 4 года назад

    Never hold your foot on or above the clutchpedal while driving! Put your foot next to pedal after shifting. Leaning on the pedal will cause your clutch to slip.

  • @mitchella2675
    @mitchella2675 4 года назад

    Same thing happened to my 15 GTI the day after I got it from the dealership. Luckily it was under dealer warranty. Ended up replacing the engine.

  • @ryandake2450
    @ryandake2450 4 года назад +2

    Built motor is the way

    • @jasun2737
      @jasun2737 4 года назад

      Built engine isn't going to address crank walk.

    • @ryandake2450
      @ryandake2450 4 года назад

      Ja Sun find a better build company

    • @jasun2737
      @jasun2737 4 года назад

      @@ryandake2450 you have any to suggest?

    • @ryandake2450
      @ryandake2450 4 года назад

      Ja Sun Try Integrated Engineering. Based out of Utah I believe

    • @jasun2737
      @jasun2737 4 года назад

      @@ryandake2450 I personally know of 3 people with defective engines from them.

  • @saftek9623
    @saftek9623 4 года назад +1

    Is the knocking a Knackered flywheel?

    • @dirk5950
      @dirk5950 4 года назад

      single mass flywheel

    • @saftek9623
      @saftek9623 4 года назад

      @@dirk5950 possibly I had a smf in one of my cars and it chattered on idle👍

  • @ryanbeck4826
    @ryanbeck4826 4 года назад

    My vw cc with a similar 2.0 tsi engine blew after oil pressure issues I feel your pain!

  • @alecd1348
    @alecd1348 4 года назад

    My 1994 cobra makes the same noise with the clutch. I have a firewall adjusters that i believe has fixed the issue. But it may be a bad throw out bearing.

  • @shokstudios
    @shokstudios 4 года назад

    Dang man, this really sucks to see, I would be so upset😔

  • @camai75
    @camai75 4 года назад

    My guess...clogged pickup tube..

  • @Spirit2TT
    @Spirit2TT 4 года назад +4

    Did I just hear valve cover or oil sensor as involved, labor intensive? Um, no.

    • @bcshay
      @bcshay 4 года назад

      thrust washer

  • @koroco
    @koroco 4 года назад

    I wont hit the like bottom on this! Hope your GTI get well soon ✌️

  • @sawdustandsweat1750
    @sawdustandsweat1750 4 года назад

    Hey man I've been trying to get ahold if you

  • @muhammadzailani7313
    @muhammadzailani7313 4 года назад

    The video has a sad theme to it 😢. You truly love this car.

  • @dmaggot51
    @dmaggot51 4 года назад

    Привет, капиталочка

  • @sergeihanush2262
    @sergeihanush2262 4 года назад +5

    lets check maybe there is an metal in oil.....oh no...let's take it for a spin!!! Where did you get this diagnostic guy from?.... sorry, but for it looks he doesn't know how even car works!! My subjective opinion

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida 4 года назад

    That mechanic was so cool!

  • @randyk7699
    @randyk7699 4 года назад

    You never know when you buy!

  • @davidbritt6676
    @davidbritt6676 4 года назад

    'There's oil in it....'

  • @HuckleBerry476
    @HuckleBerry476 4 года назад

    I had this same issue with my mk6 GLI. Wondering which engine code/variant you have... there’s no campaign or TSB that I can find directly addressing this on yours. But, hopefully you took it to a legit dealer. Don’t get me wrong Jimmy seems great! But.... yeah... You da best Jimmy! Haha

  • @sats7819
    @sats7819 4 года назад +5

    typical vw...

  • @Iceberg4k1
    @Iceberg4k1 4 года назад +2

    If the car is a '15 model year, specifically an early production car, it is almost a 100% chance the crank thrust bearing failed. This results in crank walk and poor oil pressure. The engine will need to be replaced or rebuilt. If you have under 60k miles, the engine should still be eligible for warranty coverage.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад +2

      Yeah, I'm at 69,000. 😣

    • @coses4957
      @coses4957 4 года назад +1

      @@ChicagoAutoPros Really bad luck, sorry for you. But it shows how good VW is with crunching numbers.

    • @dddon513
      @dddon513 4 года назад +2

      Do you have an aftermarket clutch on it? Those have been thought to exacerbate crankwalk. If it is CW and stock clutch, you may still be able to get some help from VW on a "goodwill" basis towards the repair, even out of warranty. Especially for an outspoken RUclipsr. Good luck.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  4 года назад

      @@dddon513 Yes is has a southbend stage II clutch.

    • @erics.5785
      @erics.5785 4 года назад

      Chicago Auto Pros ......nice

  • @guardiahangar246
    @guardiahangar246 4 года назад +1

    No te me aguites compadre todo tiene. Solución menos la muerte ...saludos desde México 👍 Animo

  • @sylenzyostampa
    @sylenzyostampa 4 года назад

    I dont know why nord american people buy shit vw cars?....tsi engine is most unreliable in the world ...bring in USA Renault Sport and you taste the real fking Hot Hatch- Megane 3RS,Megane 4 RS ....the real deal....King of NRing