"You just want to stare at it..." YES! That is exactly true. The original is a masterpiece of engineering and art, and the DCS version is a magnificent simulation of it.
6 Months Later: Great content... Doing my DCS research and looking to add the Spitfire to the collection. Damn these DCS 50% off Sales...BLOODY HELL! Lol.
Lovely review! just one small comment regarding the difference between the clipped wing version to the regular wing: the clipped wing is a bit faster and will roll faster at high speed where compressibility sets in and starts to decrease roll authority. The flip side of this is that at low speed in tight turns it will stall a bit earlier and the onset of the stall is a bit more violent, especially in accelerated stalls.
Kind of surprised you didn't mention the sound design... DCS nailed it. Through a good speaker system, turned up enough to feel the vibration through your chest, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between DCS and being overflown by the real thing. Sound design is one area where ED are absolutely so far ahead of everyone else, it's not even funny - and getting the sound just right is such a critical, but overlooked, part of getting the immersion a flight sim deserves.
I love flying this plane; it's so much fun!! But, as you say, it's hard to learn to use a very soft hand to get her in the air. Thanks for the great vid mate.
@@TacticalPascale I wish I had the tracks from my first flights in warbirds. They were short and gritty but would have made a funny video. Really admired your vintage film look/news reel appearance at he beginning. Can I ask how you did that? What it's called? I would like to use that on a P-51 video sometime.
Fantastic video, Pascale! Been playing around with it in the last few days of the trial. Didn't even know there was a clipped variant in the module so cheers for that
The big show Pierre Closterman,bought that when i was a kid great book,got mustang spit nxt thx for info, my uncle flew spit recce aircraft over france and germany the only thing that frightned him was american fighters !!!
I'm a Dora fighter. I'd like to say I have a very decent k:d ratio. I've never once won against a spitfire in a toe to toe fight. Sneek up behind them hit them when they're not paying attention? Sure. But if I'm seen, I'm dead.
I am just super annoyed by the scratch texture on the cockpit glass. It's tiny and repeats about a thousand times all over the glass. Not good at all. But that's about it. Perfection in all other areas.
No offense, but I would buy the P-47 before I'd buy the Spitfire. Don't get me wrong. Everything you said about the Spitfire is true. But the P-47 holds a special place in my heart because the first major non-fiction book I read as a child was written by a P-47 pilot from my home state.
Personally -Why wouldn't you fly the Spitfire? It's incredible, and DCS has done a great job simulating it. Fly a DCS Spit and then an ILL -2 Spit. NO COMPARISON. Man, it is a brute, and flying it takes a piolet!
He shot down Legion during the 24 hr live stream. Azza, Laurens, Chuck owl, Kirin and myself were practicing some warbirds stuff and a horde of F-18s came to bomb our airfield. We scrambled, Azza killed Legion’s F-18 in his Spit.
buying this as my first warbird....Indian Air force operated them in 1932 thanks for the feelings you shared.... was confused between Huey and this...will be going with the spitfire 🔥
Is it a requirement in the UK to use the word 'absolute' in every 2nd sentence or something? ;-) Tried the warbirds in the free play...bounced every one of them off the runway and crashed while landing. Could not even get the Spitfire started in the training even after several tries and reading the Chuck's guide. Later discovered the training (as usual with a lot of DCS training) is broken.
If you count saying a word 4 times in 8 minutes as every 2nd sentence, then, absolutely yes 😁 The start up is pretty simple, I run through it in the background early on in the video. Landing can be a bit rough, but as with anything the more practice you do the easier it becomes.
@@TacticalPascale Just ribbing you...all the Brit videos I watch have several 'absolutes' scattered throughout. I'm Canadian eh, and its aboot time someone else took some 😁 Eastern Canucks... I think the startup in the training is pooched, never tried a free flight startup, although maybe the engine was 'flooded' or something.
Best way is to try free flight. I often find the tutorials bugged or they just drag on. Juice over at the air warfare group channel has a start up vid for the spit. Although, he is American and your sworn enemy, I don’t care what you say, us Europeans know you hate each other. 😁😁
Not when you consider the hours that go into producing them and updating them. The hours of “use” you get from them, I don’t see it as a huge issue as long as you feel you get your money’s worth.
@@TacticalPascale I'm looking into this now and the module itself is ok in the sale its just the need to buy the Normandy Map thats a bit naff when the Channel is better but some of the campaigns need the old one. Looking at about £80 for spit, assets and the two maps before any campaigns.
@@TacticalPascale Yeah the work thats been put in is quality. It's mostly just that Normandy one thats a bit annoying. Should be merged or something somehow.
I'm going to say this... the spitfire is an anomaly look at everything the British make: their cars - their food - their architecture - the dogs they breed - the movies they make - how they spell.... just EVERYTHING! it all looks just so... "weird" (except their music - I have to admit they've produced some excellent music) but the spitfire? its just... beautiful its objectively beautiful graceful smooth elegant under-stated... they nailed it!
I got into sims wanting to use the spitfire I’m British (English) too, my last name is shared by a a famous pilot ace Robert Stanford tuck I downloaded warthunder expecting to love it two problems the flight model is crap and the spawn point crap in sim is rubbish I got il2 blitz that’s good but doesn’t support VR Just waiting on a new gpu then I’m gonna invest in dcs
It flies great but the 3d model inside and out could do with some modernising - a lot of inaccuracies in the model, plus we've been spoiled by the texture quality in the 47 and Mossie.
Mr Pascale sir, I agree 100% with this video. My only extra advice would be to learn warbird first in the free trainer Mustang you get for free. You will learn the landing and take off. Taxiing I am afraid you will have to learn still in the Spitfire. First rule not too many RPM say between 1000 and 1200. Gentle on the brakes by tapping them and off you go. As a fellow RAF veteran may I ask what trade were you?
i dont this modulke at all and i have most of all propeller planes from DCS. They seem unable to deliver this plane with a centered elevator setting, even fully trim down makes things worse.
@@TacticalPascale the problem is in the spit as well as in the Mosquito that my joystick center of the elevator is alway pull the plane nose up like hell ! No other plane or prop plane have this problem....only the 2 english shitties; Mossie i can handel a bit better because i reduced elevator input down to 30%....enough and smooth now. But still i hav always to pull the stick forward a bit to fly level...even with trim down. Spit is worse. P51 and P47 and Dora and even 109 are much better for me in that.
Each aircraft has their own settings to be adjusted. Check your control bindings for the spitfire are not messed up. Check the trim settings and curves
I've had spitfire for over a year. I have had serious issues with flying it because it seems to bounce all over the sky--that is it seems to oscillate significantly. I try to finesse it but it doesn't seem to help. I can land it most of the time and generally take off. Maybe it's the "nut behind the wheel" but maybe not. Could it be the sensitivity of the joystick? I use Saitek x-65. Any suggestions?
Have you added curves to the inputs? Try chucks guides if not. When you add power it will turn left, when you reduce power it will turn right, trim constantly to keep it under solid control
Well I'm a Yank so I feel the same way about the P-51D and have said a lot of curse words about the Spitfire Engineers when it comes to the Brakes and Tail Wheel. lol it killed me more on the ground then any other plane. You are Right....It's a Joy to fly and it is the 2nd Best plane in my War Bird Collection. What I like about it MORE then the P-51D : Fire Power its a killer looking for a Victim. I was In the US AirForce. I Salute you for your Service.
@@TacticalPascale That is so funny I feel like I can Flame a Enemy way faster in a Spitfire then the P-51. But What do us Yanks Know we drive on the wrong side of the Road too.
The only thing I wish they would implement for the Spit is the artificial "autopilot" as they did for the Christen Eagle II. It makes flying so much easier when you need that brief moment of hands off HOTAS.
I love the Spit, but think the tail wagging on the ground is a bit overdone. Its too painful trying to tame that with my twist grip stick so I'm parking this module until I get a setup that allows rudder pedals.
I was at Kirton in Lyndsey when the Vulcan done it’s farewell tour. Flew right over the house. I’ll never forget that as long as I love. The howl was extraordinary.
@@TacticalPascale same time I saw it when it was flying over east Anglia just outside RAF Wattisham. Had a farming job and assumed I'd never see it until I saw a big tin triangle coming at me in the tractor almost at tree top level. Never jumped out of the cab with phone camera in hand faster in my life. Like to think the pilots saw me as they did 2 close orbits of me before flying off but who knows.
Hi Pascale, there are some tweaks that can be made to the elevator control curves that will make control inputs more analogous to real life control displacements; see here: forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=260949 I also briefly describe why modern gaming/sim joysticks struggle with the Spitfire's uniquely powerful elevator authority and how these curve adjustments help to provide not only a more realistic control range for the DCS Spitfire pilot but also, more a contrallable DCS Spitfire!
when you buy this does it come with scenery/landscape graphic patches as well? It would be a bit weird flying one over modern city scapes and motorways. :s
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"You just want to stare at it..." YES! That is exactly true. The original is a masterpiece of engineering and art, and the DCS version is a magnificent simulation of it.
6 Months Later: Great content... Doing my DCS research and looking to add the Spitfire to the collection. Damn these DCS 50% off Sales...BLOODY HELL! Lol.
Lovely review! just one small comment regarding the difference between the clipped wing version to the regular wing: the clipped wing is a bit faster and will roll faster at high speed where compressibility sets in and starts to decrease roll authority. The flip side of this is that at low speed in tight turns it will stall a bit earlier and the onset of the stall is a bit more violent, especially in accelerated stalls.
1st plane i bought when i started and got me into dcs
Kind of surprised you didn't mention the sound design... DCS nailed it. Through a good speaker system, turned up enough to feel the vibration through your chest, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between DCS and being overflown by the real thing. Sound design is one area where ED are absolutely so far ahead of everyone else, it's not even funny - and getting the sound just right is such a critical, but overlooked, part of getting the immersion a flight sim deserves.
Absolutely spot on. The sounds in this bird and many others are worlds apart from any other sim platform.
I just bought the p47D as my first dcs module but first I need to focus on my exams 😂😅
Good luck on your exams, study hard, smash them.....then fly the P-47!
@@TacticalPascale I will hahah thanks
I love flying this plane; it's so much fun!! But, as you say, it's hard to learn to use a very soft hand to get her in the air. Thanks for the great vid mate.
I’ll be doing an “outtakes” video soon 😆😆
@@TacticalPascale I wish I had the tracks from my first flights in warbirds. They were short and gritty but would have made a funny video. Really admired your vintage film look/news reel appearance at he beginning. Can I ask how you did that? What it's called? I would like to use that on a P-51 video sometime.
I used Sony Vegas pro
Fantastic video, Pascale! Been playing around with it in the last few days of the trial. Didn't even know there was a clipped variant in the module so cheers for that
Clipped Wing is good, but I prefer the aesthetics of the normal MkIX
brits: spitfire (graceful slender smooth...)
americans: thunderbolt (fat loud clumsy.... jarring!)
Best WWII DCS Channel!! Spitfire it´s best bird for DCS!!
"She was a lady in the air, but a Bitch on the ground" ~ RAF Veteran Spitfire Pilot Mary Ellis 'This is my favorite aircraft' would be an understate.
I say IL-2 with Bat Mod..DCS is a nice game but I'll never pay $100. Per Aircraft
The big show Pierre Closterman,bought that when i was a kid great book,got mustang spit nxt thx for info, my uncle flew spit recce aircraft over france and germany the only thing that frightned
him was american fighters !!!
Is it just me, or is it incredibly hard to takeoff in...?
Nice work TP. Gonna be my first warbird. My GFather flew these :)
I'm a Dora fighter. I'd like to say I have a very decent k:d ratio.
I've never once won against a spitfire in a toe to toe fight. Sneek up behind them hit them when they're not paying attention? Sure. But if I'm seen, I'm dead.
I am just super annoyed by the scratch texture on the cockpit glass. It's tiny and repeats about a thousand times all over the glass. Not good at all. But that's about it. Perfection in all other areas.
Nice video, could you please address the elevator trim problem does not seem to work thanks xraf.
No offense, but I would buy the P-47 before I'd buy the Spitfire. Don't get me wrong. Everything you said about the Spitfire is true. But the P-47 holds a special place in my heart because the first major non-fiction book I read as a child was written by a P-47 pilot from my home state.
Also, the visual model of the P-47 is night and day to the old, awful looking spitfire.
Personally -Why wouldn't you fly the Spitfire? It's incredible, and DCS has done a great job simulating it. Fly a DCS Spit and then an ILL -2 Spit. NO COMPARISON. Man, it is a brute, and flying it takes a piolet!
I agree, everyone should have the spit. Especially with the new cockpit textures
For those of you who really want the full experience, try the Authentikit 3D printed control set for the Spit.
Already done a review on it
Toggles in cockpit are not wooden but bakelite.
You should buy it just to look at it.
I’ve had it since release.
@@TacticalPascale now that's a champ move
a year later and the intro is absolutely amazing
Eeh, I think it's pretty overrated.
Says the guy who was shot down by one in his F-18.....:'D
You’re lucky I didn’t fly one with Azza’s F-18 kill stencil. 😄
@@p90arn whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????
shot down by a Spitfire in an F/A 18? Now THAT sounds like a vid worth seeing!
He shot down Legion during the 24 hr live stream. Azza, Laurens, Chuck owl, Kirin and myself were practicing some warbirds stuff and a horde of F-18s came to bomb our airfield. We scrambled, Azza killed Legion’s F-18 in his Spit.
buying this as my first warbird....Indian Air force operated them in 1932 thanks for the feelings you shared.... was confused between Huey and this...will be going with the spitfire 🔥
you sure bud? Wasn't introduced till 1938
@@Cessna152ful my bad IAF operated it from 1943-1959
Would love to see more of these if you get the time. :)
Is it a requirement in the UK to use the word 'absolute' in every 2nd sentence or something? ;-) Tried the warbirds in the free play...bounced every one of them off the runway and crashed while landing. Could not even get the Spitfire started in the training even after several tries and reading the Chuck's guide. Later discovered the training (as usual with a lot of DCS training) is broken.
If you count saying a word 4 times in 8 minutes as every 2nd sentence, then, absolutely yes 😁 The start up is pretty simple, I run through it in the background early on in the video. Landing can be a bit rough, but as with anything the more practice you do the easier it becomes.
@@TacticalPascale Just ribbing you...all the Brit videos I watch have several 'absolutes' scattered throughout. I'm Canadian eh, and its aboot time someone else took some 😁 Eastern Canucks... I think the startup in the training is pooched, never tried a free flight startup, although maybe the engine was 'flooded' or something.
Best way is to try free flight. I often find the tutorials bugged or they just drag on. Juice over at the air warfare group channel has a start up vid for the spit. Although, he is American and your sworn enemy, I don’t care what you say, us Europeans know you hate each other. 😁😁
@@TacticalPascale More like 'pity' the yanks these days...
The pricing of DCS modules are crazy
Not when you consider the hours that go into producing them and updating them. The hours of “use” you get from them, I don’t see it as a huge issue as long as you feel you get your money’s worth.
@@TacticalPascale I'm looking into this now and the module itself is ok in the sale its just the need to buy the Normandy Map thats a bit naff when the Channel is better but some of the campaigns need the old one. Looking at about £80 for spit, assets and the two maps before any campaigns.
Yes, the asset pack and maps are annoying to buy.
@@TacticalPascale Yeah the work thats been put in is quality. It's mostly just that Normandy one thats a bit annoying. Should be merged or something somehow.
I'm going to say this... the spitfire is an anomaly
look at everything the British make:
their cars - their food - their architecture - the dogs they breed - the movies they make - how they spell.... just EVERYTHING!
it all looks just so... "weird"
(except their music - I have to admit they've produced some excellent music)
but the spitfire? its just... beautiful
its objectively beautiful
graceful smooth elegant under-stated...
they nailed it!
We stole the design from Germany.
Supermarine Spitfire, Hawker Hunter, Br
Blackburn Buccanear, Reliant Robin. All British designs all beautiful
The phone, the television, the radio, the jet engine,the internet....you’re right, we’re awful.
@@TacticalPascale well at least we left it to the Scottish for deep fried Mars bars.
I’ve never tried one in all my years of being Scottish. Got to love a haggis supper though.
I better go buy it then.
Yes
Yes.
Yes
Quick answer.... Yes, Yes, YESSSS and the channel map :)
I got into sims wanting to use the spitfire I’m British (English) too, my last name is shared by a a famous pilot ace Robert Stanford tuck
I downloaded warthunder expecting to love it two problems the flight model is crap and the spawn point crap in sim is rubbish
I got il2 blitz that’s good but doesn’t support VR
Just waiting on a new gpu then I’m gonna invest in dcs
Guy loves the Spitfire. My first Module
Bought it but never managed to do anything other than spin around the airfield 😂 Now I now why. I will give her another go. Thanks 🙏🏻
It flies great but the 3d model inside and out could do with some modernising - a lot of inaccuracies in the model, plus we've been spoiled by the texture quality in the 47 and Mossie.
It does, same as the Huey and F-5
Yes
Mr Pascale sir, I agree 100% with this video. My only extra advice would be to learn warbird first in the free trainer Mustang you get for free. You will learn the landing and take off. Taxiing I am afraid you will have to learn still in the Spitfire. First rule not too many RPM say between 1000 and 1200. Gentle on the brakes by tapping them and off you go. As a fellow RAF veteran may I ask what trade were you?
Fighter controller
i dont this modulke at all and i have most of all propeller planes from DCS. They seem unable to deliver this plane with a centered elevator setting, even fully trim down makes things worse.
You have to trim as you change power settings
@@TacticalPascale the problem is in the spit as well as in the Mosquito that my joystick center of the elevator is alway pull the plane nose up like hell ! No other plane or prop plane have this problem....only the 2 english shitties; Mossie i can handel a bit better because i reduced elevator input down to 30%....enough and smooth now. But still i hav always to pull the stick forward a bit to fly level...even with trim down. Spit is worse. P51 and P47 and Dora and even 109 are much better for me in that.
Must be something in your control settings.
@@TacticalPascale definately NOT ! all other planes fly fine. Spit is a nightmare with its notorious nose up trim behaviour.
Each aircraft has their own settings to be adjusted. Check your control bindings for the spitfire are not messed up. Check the trim settings and curves
I've had spitfire for over a year. I have had serious issues with flying it because it seems to bounce all over the sky--that is it seems to oscillate significantly. I try to finesse it but it doesn't seem to help. I can land it most of the time and generally take off. Maybe it's the "nut behind the wheel" but maybe not. Could it be the sensitivity of the joystick? I use Saitek x-65. Any suggestions?
Have you added curves to the inputs? Try chucks guides if not. When you add power it will turn left, when you reduce power it will turn right, trim constantly to keep it under solid control
Well I'm a Yank so I feel the same way about the P-51D and have said a lot of curse words about the Spitfire Engineers when it comes to the Brakes and Tail Wheel. lol it killed me more on the ground then any other plane. You are Right....It's a Joy to fly and it is the 2nd Best plane in my War Bird Collection. What I like about it MORE then the P-51D : Fire Power its a killer looking for a Victim. I was In the US AirForce. I Salute you for your Service.
Thanks for your service too! That’s the one thing I dislike about the Spitfire, the peashooters for guns!
@@TacticalPascale That is so funny I feel like I can Flame a Enemy way faster in a Spitfire then the P-51. But What do us Yanks Know we drive on the wrong side of the Road too.
I get frustrated with the number of hits they take, especially compared to IL-2
Yea i tried it in the free thing they were doing and its the closest thing we have to a f-18 warbird
Great review! Do you need the Chanel scenery?
For the Spitfire, no. But it’s a great map to fly over in the spit
The only thing I wish they would implement for the Spit is the artificial "autopilot" as they did for the Christen Eagle II. It makes flying so much easier when you need that brief moment of hands off HOTAS.
Defo mate
You might be a wee bit biased. I
P51 kinda sucks I have it the spit is muchhh better and so is the 109
Biased.....but also correct. The spitfire is the king..........unless you fly the Tempest 😁 (P-51 is very, very good)
P51 can’t climb or turn how is it good compared to others?
Amazing intro music, what's it's name?
It’s called “Flying Lead”
@@TacticalPascale :S :S googled it, got theme from ET but nothing else :S :S
It’s from a site called “artlist.io”
@@TacticalPascale Wow, thanks, this is a very good website.
Thanks again sir.
I love the Spit, but think the tail wagging on the ground is a bit overdone. Its too painful trying to tame that with my twist grip stick so I'm parking this module until I get a setup that allows rudder pedals.
Try and anticipate the turn and counter before it gets too far ahead of you.
@@TacticalPascale LOL. Yeah, I'm familiar with that aspect of flying a plane and I'm not trying to catch a nap during taxi. 😅
Thank god they made the mark 9 with the ironic merlin and not a griffin engine
The sound of a Merlin engine is my happy place.
@@TacticalPascale the Merlin engine is there to remind you the world is okay after the Vulcan has made you want to run home crying
I was at Kirton in Lyndsey when the Vulcan done it’s farewell tour. Flew right over the house. I’ll never forget that as long as I love. The howl was extraordinary.
@@TacticalPascale same time I saw it when it was flying over east Anglia just outside RAF Wattisham. Had a farming job and assumed I'd never see it until I saw a big tin triangle coming at me in the tractor almost at tree top level. Never jumped out of the cab with phone camera in hand faster in my life. Like to think the pilots saw me as they did 2 close orbits of me before flying off but who knows.
Awesome stuff. Those engines were so good!
Hi Pascale, there are some tweaks that can be made to the elevator control curves that will make control inputs more analogous to real life control displacements; see here:
forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=260949
I also briefly describe why modern gaming/sim joysticks struggle with the Spitfire's uniquely powerful elevator authority and how these curve adjustments help to provide not only a more realistic control range for the DCS Spitfire pilot but also, more a contrallable DCS Spitfire!
Thanks for the link, I’ll give it a look.
Thanks for great video. Can I ask, your system specs?
When I get back to my PC is will post them.
buy f18, join the eyegasm on viper server or mustang server, usaly a busy carrier deck over thare
when you buy this does it come with scenery/landscape graphic patches as well? It would be a bit weird flying one over modern city scapes and motorways. :s
No, but you can get the Normandy or channel maps.
This produced a big smile on my face from the start untill the end! Great vid Pascale, thanks from Amsterdam!
Thank you sir for watching!
Excellent review