Kits to me just lack creativity and charm that stuff packs exude. And the frequency at which they are released adds up financially. I’d rather spend 10 dollars on something good than 5 dollars on something like kits.
Paranormal is one of my favourite packs, I don't have any kit packs rather get a expansion pack where you get everything, liked one of the clothing packs but no way would I pay 5.00.
yep it was the best stuff pack totally agree, kits don't have enough for the price . i don't have any kits either and stuff packs definitely give us a little more for the money for sure :0)
I'm so tired of kits. SO tired. I haven't bought one yet, i think a few of them are decent but a lot of them just miss the mark completely for me. I can't BELIEVE we've gotten seven already?! just give us a dine out refresh and generations please 😭🤣
I couldn't agree with you more... we need more playable content... and I too feel that they are starting to give up on packs, with all the kit releases.
No, we're getting 1 more Stuff Pack. If you look at the codes for the packs, Paranormal was SP18. The 1st Kit continued the SP series, but at SP20. There's still 1 more Stuff Pack, SP19, to go before they turn the series into just Kits. No idea what SP19 might be, or when, but they are very good at planning their releases (however chaotic it appears to the rest of us). Stuff packs are coming to an end, but not quit yet.
@@TONZAMUSIC If we get more than one more Stuff Pack, the numbering will mix with the Kits. The Sims team will either have to change the designation of all the Kits released so far, or mix Stuff Packs and Kits in the SP series, both of which are very unlikely. They very determinedly left 1 space open before numbering the Kits. We know they are working on Sims 5 from job listings from EA. We are now trying to figure out how much new content is planned for Sims 4. While we can't say definitely on anything, they left a big clue on Stuff Packs.
Still waiting for Werewolves, scifi and steampunk stuff. If they're in a kit that's fine, but please give us those before sims 5. The amount of cc stuff for all of these shows there's a demand for official stuff!
I agree, kits are the bite sized overpriced content that they intended stuff packs to be but they accidentally started setting the bar high on SPs and couldnt go back. Now they’re pumping out kits as a replacement and phasing out SPs
I was watching the Iron Seagull video and was wondering the same thing. They told us before that we weren't going to get kits released like this. They were going to do one or two every few months. Now all of a sudden we are getting 4 within weeks of each other. What I suspect is that lock down made it difficult for them to get the game pack released on time so they are subbing it with these. If that's the case not much of a trade off if you ask me.
They actually said we wpuld be getting kits whenever we didn't have a exp/gp/sp schedule for that month. I was expecting that we would get one every month, but i guess they can release any amount they desire. I don't like that.
I literally just said this exact thing. It really feels the game is coming to an end and Actually it’s 9 kits before the end of the year. There were 5 kits before the season of selves and the season of selves is coming with 4 kits. Two that have been released and there is another cas and build kit coming.
Totally agree with you, I miss stuff packs because it gave you extra things to do... I love the kits.... but I hope they will give us more stuff packs.
What I’ve noticed is since the update for spa, the young kids can do yoga, but get no skills for it, it’s the same as gardening and cooking yes you can include the kids but they don’t get any skill points which I find annoying 💜💯🇦🇺
They get skill points for the kid skills. Gardening gives mental skill I think and when the kid levels up and completes it it is then supposed to give the adult skills
Completely agree! I think the whole mental/social type skillets massively need upgrading... how can my kids communicate with the dead and do yoga, but not pick up a guitar and only recently be able to water the plants... bonkers!
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The fact that we haven’t gotten anymore gameplay kits is telling. I miss a good stuff pack. Lately they’ve actually been good and fleshed out. I hope that what would be a stuff pack doesn’t get chopped down and split up into a kit. Okay
I'm pretty sure these are all signs they kind of stop putting so much REAL content out for the sims. I don't think we're getting any new stuff pack, I think if there are gonna be similar stuff to paranormal they're gonna be game packs. The refresh also makes me think we're reaching the end of the sims 4 - like, we're going to put less content out and instead improve on the half-assed job we did prior so people know we're not gonna do the same mistakes in future games (hopefully). And honestly I'm excited for a new sims game... I feel like the sims 4 will never be good enough for people - I barely hear people being actually happy with what they're putting out, there's always something to be upset about and to critique, even when the pack/update/refresh IS, in fact, good. And that critique is also deserved a lot of the times, so I think at this point they're ust kind of stretching the game to buy time for another while still getting some more money. I'm gonna say it: the sims 4 must go
That’s a good take! Interesting. I’m a vintage Sims player, and only have gotten into Sims4 in the past year-ish. I’d Be sad if sims 5 comes out too soon and I’d want to Start over again.
The people who constantly yell about everything wrong with ts4 are a minority, but a very loud one. Yes, all the bugs in the game are frustrating and I don't like every single pack or kit they release, but I still love playing the game. There's definitely room for improvements, but I'm tired of all the negativity.
i would love a generations ep too. if anything, give me a music pack with some great gameplay attached to it and i'm happy. I don't mind kits at all. kits are more of a specific niche, not all the kits will be for everyone.
Mmmm.... My take on it is more optimistic. With all the work they did lately to make it profitable it doesn't make sense they would stop halfway. I think they're changing direction, but like you just said if they're going to make quality over quantities then it make sense we have less things coming out. Because we definitely can't have both. However, we're used to have a lot of things coming out to keep us engaged in the game. So I think that's the purpose of kits, keep us engaged while they're working on other stuff ? Like you said it's easier to have kit done, like older stuff pack. I just think it's a transition period.
I hope they keep stuff packs. kits aren't worth it for me, not enough items in them, I still think we will get a mythical creatures stuff pack with zombies, fairies and werewolves along with maybe whimsical vibes maybe. Expansion pack might be generations with like a royal lineage castles and stuff and family aspects (fingers crossed on these) I'd be all for that. Also love your Halloween nails too :0)
I was so hopeful that this year was finally gonna be Werewolves Game Pack... Now I'm not as hopeful, I'm actually sad. How could they not release one of the paranormal fan favorite gamepack in THE PARANORMAL MONTH! It's just sad? I hate kits, more than I should, probably because I'm waiting for werewolves since vampires was released and got nothing yet, also feels like it's kits fault, might just be my hate filling up with TS4 Kits, but still, I blame them.
Nah. Just because we're getting tons of kits doesn't mean stuff packs are over. Stuff packs went on hiatus for over a year after My First Pet Stuff, but they still came back. If they actually do stop making stuff packs I think the SimGurus would say so.
I’m sure for anyone not playing on pc, the kits are great! However… if you ARE playing on pc.. you can get CC that looks exactly the same or even better IMO. I’d love to see a few more stuff and game packs. (Werewolves please!!!) They won’t be getting any of my money regarding the kits. Ever. CC is just too good, there’s so many talented people who make the same stuff for FREE, and I’d honestly rather throw them a couple bucks for the talent and effort than pay 5 bucks for stuff that probably should have already been in the game.
So long, stuff packs lol. But I have to admit that the last 2 kits are great and couldn't have been done in a stuff pack. Because they're 2 different styles and I don't think EA would want to give us a "Around the World SP (although it would be cool). However I'm not a bootlicker I still prefer an SP with lots of useful things. And now when we get the announcement of" new packs" they're all kits :/ R.I.P SP
A sim guru stated that they plan packs out years in advance, but i think that’s cap. Their moves seem sloppy and cash grabbing. EA wants to know how much they can charge for minimal effort. All of the kits combined don’t amount to one of the stuff packs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re wrapping up TS4 and moving on to something else
The only kit I’ve bought is the Country Kitchen one and then they released Cottage Living not long after when I saw the kitchen items in that pack I was little upset because they are similar. I feel like maybe they were trying to tease the expansion pack with that kit which is kind of unfair.
I don't like kits much, I've only bought 2 of them. Just like you said, they feel boring and they really don't even have that many items in them. I hope ea will forget the kits and put the effort toward the bigger packs.
I don’t think stuff packs will end for kits. I think kits are just EA getting content that got scrapped from other packs out for sale. The country kitchen kit coming out right before the Cottage Living pack came out with a new kitchen set solidified that for me. Like, they made more than one kitchen set and the one in the EP is the one they chose but realized they had extra content laying around they could be selling for money.
I like Stuff Packs AND kits. However, I think that in addition to new kits, they need to be doing refreshes of some of the older packs like they did with Spa Day. I'm going to be so mad if they move on to Sims 5 anytime soon. I've spent so much money recently on packs and expansions because I love this game and I need time to get my money's worth before they move on to a new version of the game.
Like Stuff Packs were JUST getting good and now we have kits. I feel like Stuff Packs were a good amount and worth what your getting. Whereas kits- they’re small, lacking and expensive for what they are. EA. You cannot be new, and improved if you still aren’t perfect.
We're not getting a "generations" pack ever. Maybe a spin off where it half touches on it and has another theme. But none of the packs were exactly as any other pack before.
Your video makes totally sense for me. I'm wondering about this too. My opion is the Sims 4 were supposed to come to an end about this year or maybe next year. I expected the Sims 5 to be announced this year and being published next year. But for some reason the Sims 5 are still not announced. For me this could be the reason for the lack of packs this year. Kits are easier to produce and don't take as much time as a pack. And they don't need a huge staff for programming. I wonder if the main Sims 4 staff allready works at Sims 5. For me kits were supposed to be the placeholder untill the release of Sims 5. I don't know if I'm right but maybe they have a big problem with Sims 5 not being released and not having packs for Sims 4 in work. I really hope the kits are not the new stuff packs and we are having new packs coming soon.
I don't think this is the end of stuff packs but of course I could be wrong. As far as kits go, I don't mind them BUT I would love something other than content for YA/Adult sims. Tried to dress my toddler boys today and WOW how lacking are we in that department. Give me a kit for tots, kids and teens and I'm there!.. and yes PLEASE, Generations gameplay!
1. Do you have October nails? (cute) 2. I'm pretty sure the guru's said kits were filler content to avoid a drought. I think they have a different definition of "drought".
They told us that kits would not effect the release of packs so I believe them and don't think we've seen the last of Stuff Packs. I hope we get a second one this year otherwise I expect there will be one in January. I'd love to do another community vote one! And I am completely for Kit's. I love them and want to keep them coming
Hi! Of couse they are grabbing as much money as they can from us, they work for money not really for our entertainment 😂 Speaking of kits and stuff packs, I ended up with your same conclusion, but onestly if this could mean that maybe game packs would be mooore rich, I'm okay with that. Kits for only "new stuff", and game packs for stuff, careers, aspirations, traits, maybe new worlds, as well as a tiny expansion pack. I think that they want to give a new specific face (and price) to contents, and maybe take more time to focus and work on future (and bigger) GP or EP while giving us bits of simple content as "kits". Still making money periodically with minimum effort (kits), effort to give to future GP and EP instead, or even game refreshes, as long as TheSims4 exists. This is my intricate opinion 😅
🥺i dont want it to go i need it for new stuff we all need new stuff im gonna cry if it goes i will cry and cry every day i need sims 4 to stay i need itt🥺
I'm only missing one stuff pack.. Kits I have bought 3 of them Country Kitchen, Industrial Loft and throwback Fit Kit.. I really hope that SP aren't disappearing. The only content I buy the most of.. To me expansion packs and game packs are hit or miss.. As kits go more misses then hits.. Not sure it is the Sims team.. I think EA is trying to grab has much money as it can and hope we all line up and keep paying without question.. I love playing the sims 4.. Also think why buy kits, stuff packs and such when there are many talented custom creators that can make better content.. I mean I have over 2GBs of custom content and enjoy spending time looking and adding things to my collection..
The kits are so annoying. Like some of the stuff in them is good especially for representing some other cultures but I don’t wanna have to pay for representation. Also, other than maybe courtyard oasis, I have not seen a kit that couldn’t have been combined as an update to an existing pack. Throwback fit? That should be in fitness stuff. Country kitchen? Why on earth isn’t that in cottage living? Industrial loft? That really should go with city living. Fashion street is super cool Indian fashion and representation that should be in base game. Also I wouldn’t mind as much if it was cheaper. If kits were somewhere more like $1 to $2.50 I’d buy them. They are really worth $3 max. The only ones I think I’m probably going to cave and buy are courtyard oasis and fashion street just because I want more diversity and representation in my game. Also I have been waiting for them to go on sale cause I’m so determined not to pay full price but so far none of they have gone on sale! They really expect me to pay their ridiculous full price… Kits bother me.
I think the problem is that stuff packs started to become mini gamepacks while gamepacks were also mini expansions, in the previous games it was easy to tell apart expansions and stuff pack, now you have gameplay, cas and build items in all of them, and while I think that kits need to either have more stuff or lower their prices I rather have kits that are easily skipable like in previous games than having to buy all the games to have the full gameplay and have stuff packs become full gamepacks or just be included in expansions, but I don't think this means is the end of the sims 4 but a change in economics, stuff packs were too cheap for how good they were becoming (I mean that as EA point of view)
Yuck!!! I'm so sick of kits. *crying* They're too expensive!! It's $5 for clothes that don't matter AT ALL in gameplay. I really wish EA would add some clothing gameplay so it'd be worth it (like the sims actually recognizing when they're wearing their favorite colors, and attraction based on style). These kits are so sad and a waste of time.
@@elye0987 True! That would be cool if they actually could buy clothes and piece outfits together in the morning. but No, they don't mind wearing the same thing for years lol.
I just started playing the Sims 4 during the pandemic last year when it was first released on Steam. I refuse to buy the stuff packs from before 2018 because I don’t feel like they are worth the price to get 3 or 4 things, and no gameplay. I also don’t really like the kits. None of them have really been catered to my personal style of playing besides the Country Kitchen Kit. I would really appreciate it if EA would continue refreshing the existing packs and updating the base game. Dine Out is still extremely buggy. I have issues with Seasons sometimes when it’s snowing or raining. There’s so much to be fixed and I feel like they are just releasing these little kits because they’re out of ideas for stuff packs. We’ve been begging them to fix babies, and make the overall game better and their response is “Here’s a new kit to buy, it’s only $5. Build an Industrial Loft”
Honestly I would not have noticed this if it weren't for the fact that you pointed it out. I rarely look at trends in The Sims franchise. Thank you for pointing this out to me. That said I am annoyed with the kits and have yet to purchase one. I am more inclined to buy a stuff pack for the simple fact that it comes with 1 Premium item at least. Hopefully this is not a harbinger of the end nor the destruction of stuff packs.
Just my therapy, but I think the sims team has had all of these kits planned out for longer than we’ve even known about kits. The release schedule was probably made thinking that there would be a much more positive response to kits in general. I’m hoping they listen moving forward and either make kits worth the money or focus on the other kinds of DLC we already have.
I only switched to Sims 4 (from 3) in January because I couldn't let go of the occults and paranormal. The thing that bothers me with the kits is that it is the only place to get things to increase Sim diversity. It seems like a money grab for someone wanting diversity. CC can replace what is missing but not everyone has access to CC.
Kits and game packs are the hugest scams!! I love so many of the game packs but even with the existence of it, it doesn’t feel any better then the previous games which is what their motive should be for the sims4. I just hope the sims 5 isn’t the same and has everything we ever wanted the sims4 to be but much better ofc
I doubt it. The world isn't open enough for the horses to run in. The most they'd give us is a large horse corral object, where the horse can run in a circle.
Thank you for mentioning that. No one seems to be talking about it. We've had more kits than actual expansion, stuff or game packs combined this year. And people think Sims 5 is going to be an improvement.....LOL!!!!
I love the sims 4.its sims 2 then 4.4 beats 3 just because I hated the way you couldn't move sims without losing all thier relationships.sims 4 has issues but if it had open neighborhoods it might be my fav...but it doesn't,so it isn't lmao
I think that's because EA doesn't WANT us to get value for our money. That should be obvious, since they limit their developers (the devs have expressed their frustration at this - in a subtle way, because I think they were afraid to speak out too much) in what they're even allowed to put in an expansion, game pack, or stuff pack. When we saw the reveal on RoM, this was very apparent; the two devs that were showing that pack off, said there were other things they wanted to do, but weren't allowed to. It's quite obvious that once WE are getting value for our money, EA becomes discontent, and feels that THEY aren't getting enough money for our value. It's rather a cynical thing to have to say, but unfortunately, it's what EA's behaviour certainly points at.
Kits are probably the result of the pandemic. If they are still working from home they can only do so much. For example complicated motion capture for animations is something that they probably can't do from home. Like the ones we see with spell casting or light saber fights. However making a very simple animation for Bust the Dust is doable. I don't think this will be the end of stuff packs or other kinds of packs, it's just the stupid pandemic.
It’s my understanding that kits are niche content release between the bigger packs that they offer. I’m totally cool with it. Don’t get why everyone is so prickly about it. 🤷🏽♀️
Because we've barely had nothing in between the kits. We've had 9 kits this year compared to 1 expansion pack, 1 stuff pack and 1 game pack that's buggy and doesn't work (Home Decorator). All they talk about is kits but have announced nothing about any other packs and it's almost the end of the year. So that "in between packs" theory is CRAP.
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Kits to me just lack creativity and charm that stuff packs exude. And the frequency at which they are released adds up financially. I’d rather spend 10 dollars on something good than 5 dollars on something like kits.
Paranormal is one of my favourite packs, I don't have any kit packs rather get a expansion pack where you get everything, liked one of the clothing packs but no way would I pay 5.00.
yep it was the best stuff pack totally agree, kits don't have enough for the price . i don't have any kits either and stuff packs definitely give us a little more for the money for sure :0)
I'm so tired of kits. SO tired. I haven't bought one yet, i think a few of them are decent but a lot of them just miss the mark completely for me. I can't BELIEVE we've gotten seven already?! just give us a dine out refresh and generations please 😭🤣
i hope not! Paranormal was so good!
Paranormal was the best 😭
I couldn't agree with you more... we need more playable content... and I too feel that they are starting to give up on packs, with all the kit releases.
I haven’t wanted to buy a single kit, so… if they’re trying to replace SPs with kits they aren’t doing a very good job of making them look appealing.
No, we're getting 1 more Stuff Pack. If you look at the codes for the packs, Paranormal was SP18. The 1st Kit continued the SP series, but at SP20. There's still 1 more Stuff Pack, SP19, to go before they turn the series into just Kits. No idea what SP19 might be, or when, but they are very good at planning their releases (however chaotic it appears to the rest of us). Stuff packs are coming to an end, but not quit yet.
No, we are getting more than 1 SP. Who the hell said SP19 is the last one anyway?!?
@@TONZAMUSIC If we get more than one more Stuff Pack, the numbering will mix with the Kits. The Sims team will either have to change the designation of all the Kits released so far, or mix Stuff Packs and Kits in the SP series, both of which are very unlikely. They very determinedly left 1 space open before numbering the Kits. We know they are working on Sims 5 from job listings from EA. We are now trying to figure out how much new content is planned for Sims 4. While we can't say definitely on anything, they left a big clue on Stuff Packs.
Still waiting for Werewolves, scifi and steampunk stuff. If they're in a kit that's fine, but please give us those before sims 5. The amount of cc stuff for all of these shows there's a demand for official stuff!
I agree, kits are the bite sized overpriced content that they intended stuff packs to be but they accidentally started setting the bar high on SPs and couldnt go back. Now they’re pumping out kits as a replacement and phasing out SPs
I don’t intend to buy any kits
If they never added the "gameplay object" in stuff packs, they would still be exactly like kits are.
i honestly dont like kits. i think stuff packs were better.
I was watching the Iron Seagull video and was wondering the same thing. They told us before that we weren't going to get kits released like this. They were going to do one or two every few months. Now all of a sudden we are getting 4 within weeks of each other. What I suspect is that lock down made it difficult for them to get the game pack released on time so they are subbing it with these. If that's the case not much of a trade off if you ask me.
They actually said we wpuld be getting kits whenever we didn't have a exp/gp/sp schedule for that month. I was expecting that we would get one every month, but i guess they can release any amount they desire. I don't like that.
I literally just said this exact thing. It really feels the game is coming to an end and Actually it’s 9 kits before the end of the year. There were 5 kits before the season of selves and the season of selves is coming with 4 kits. Two that have been released and there is another cas and build kit coming.
Totally agree with you, I miss stuff packs because it gave you extra things to do... I love the kits.... but I hope they will give us more stuff packs.
What I’ve noticed is since the update for spa, the young kids can do yoga, but get no skills for it, it’s the same as gardening and cooking yes you can include the kids but they don’t get any skill points which I find annoying 💜💯🇦🇺
They get skill points for the kid skills. Gardening gives mental skill I think and when the kid levels up and completes it it is then supposed to give the adult skills
Completely agree! I think the whole mental/social type skillets massively need upgrading... how can my kids communicate with the dead and do yoga, but not pick up a guitar and only recently be able to water the plants... bonkers!
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The fact that we haven’t gotten anymore gameplay kits is telling.
I miss a good stuff pack. Lately they’ve actually been good and fleshed out. I hope that what would be a stuff pack doesn’t get chopped down and split up into a kit. Okay
I'm pretty sure these are all signs they kind of stop putting so much REAL content out for the sims. I don't think we're getting any new stuff pack, I think if there are gonna be similar stuff to paranormal they're gonna be game packs. The refresh also makes me think we're reaching the end of the sims 4 - like, we're going to put less content out and instead improve on the half-assed job we did prior so people know we're not gonna do the same mistakes in future games (hopefully). And honestly I'm excited for a new sims game... I feel like the sims 4 will never be good enough for people - I barely hear people being actually happy with what they're putting out, there's always something to be upset about and to critique, even when the pack/update/refresh IS, in fact, good. And that critique is also deserved a lot of the times, so I think at this point they're ust kind of stretching the game to buy time for another while still getting some more money. I'm gonna say it: the sims 4 must go
That’s a good take! Interesting. I’m a vintage Sims player, and only have gotten into Sims4 in the past year-ish. I’d Be sad if sims 5 comes out too soon and I’d want to
Start over again.
the sims 4 must go
the sims 5 must NOT fail
The people who constantly yell about everything wrong with ts4 are a minority, but a very loud one. Yes, all the bugs in the game are frustrating and I don't like every single pack or kit they release, but I still love playing the game. There's definitely room for improvements, but I'm tired of all the negativity.
i would love a generations ep too. if anything, give me a music pack with some great gameplay attached to it and i'm happy. I don't mind kits at all. kits are more of a specific niche, not all the kits will be for everyone.
To me I feel like Kits should be a 3rd of the price of stuff packs because Kits are only a third of the content that is in a stuff pack.
Mmmm.... My take on it is more optimistic. With all the work they did lately to make it profitable it doesn't make sense they would stop halfway. I think they're changing direction, but like you just said if they're going to make quality over quantities then it make sense we have less things coming out. Because we definitely can't have both.
However, we're used to have a lot of things coming out to keep us engaged in the game. So I think that's the purpose of kits, keep us engaged while they're working on other stuff ?
Like you said it's easier to have kit done, like older stuff pack. I just think it's a transition period.
I hope they keep stuff packs. kits aren't worth it for me, not enough items in them, I still think we will get a mythical creatures stuff pack with zombies, fairies and werewolves along with maybe whimsical vibes maybe. Expansion pack might be generations with like a royal lineage castles and stuff and family aspects (fingers crossed on these) I'd be all for that. Also love your Halloween nails too :0)
I just want them to add fairies and werewolves before this game ends man 😭😭
I was so hopeful that this year was finally gonna be Werewolves Game Pack... Now I'm not as hopeful, I'm actually sad.
How could they not release one of the paranormal fan favorite gamepack in THE PARANORMAL MONTH!
It's just sad?
I hate kits, more than I should, probably because I'm waiting for werewolves since vampires was released and got nothing yet, also feels like it's kits fault, might just be my hate filling up with TS4 Kits, but still, I blame them.
Nah. Just because we're getting tons of kits doesn't mean stuff packs are over. Stuff packs went on hiatus for over a year after My First Pet Stuff, but they still came back. If they actually do stop making stuff packs I think the SimGurus would say so.
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I love stuff packs, not a fan of kits
I’m sure for anyone not playing on pc, the kits are great! However… if you ARE playing on pc.. you can get CC that looks exactly the same or even better IMO.
I’d love to see a few more stuff and game packs. (Werewolves please!!!) They won’t be getting any of my money regarding the kits. Ever. CC is just too good, there’s so many talented people who make the same stuff for FREE, and I’d honestly rather throw them a couple bucks for the talent and effort than pay 5 bucks for stuff that probably should have already been in the game.
So long, stuff packs lol. But I have to admit that the last 2 kits are great and couldn't have been done in a stuff pack. Because they're 2 different styles and I don't think EA would want to give us a "Around the World SP (although it would be cool). However I'm not a bootlicker I still prefer an SP with lots of useful things. And now when we get the announcement of" new packs" they're all kits :/ R.I.P SP
A sim guru stated that they plan packs out years in advance, but i think that’s cap. Their moves seem sloppy and cash grabbing. EA wants to know how much they can charge for minimal effort. All of the kits combined don’t amount to one of the stuff packs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re wrapping up TS4 and moving on to something else
The only kit I’ve bought is the Country Kitchen one and then they released Cottage Living not long after when I saw the kitchen items in that pack I was little upset because they are similar. I feel like maybe they were trying to tease the expansion pack with that kit which is kind of unfair.
I don't like kits much, I've only bought 2 of them. Just like you said, they feel boring and they really don't even have that many items in them. I hope ea will forget the kits and put the effort toward the bigger packs.
I don’t think stuff packs will end for kits. I think kits are just EA getting content that got scrapped from other packs out for sale. The country kitchen kit coming out right before the Cottage Living pack came out with a new kitchen set solidified that for me. Like, they made more than one kitchen set and the one in the EP is the one they chose but realized they had extra content laying around they could be selling for money.
I like Stuff Packs AND kits. However, I think that in addition to new kits, they need to be doing refreshes of some of the older packs like they did with Spa Day.
I'm going to be so mad if they move on to Sims 5 anytime soon. I've spent so much money recently on packs and expansions because I love this game and I need time to get my money's worth before they move on to a new version of the game.
Like Stuff Packs were JUST getting good and now we have kits. I feel like Stuff Packs were a good amount and worth what your getting. Whereas kits- they’re small, lacking and expensive for what they are. EA. You cannot be new, and improved if you still aren’t perfect.
We're not getting a "generations" pack ever. Maybe a spin off where it half touches on it and has another theme. But none of the packs were exactly as any other pack before.
Your video makes totally sense for me. I'm wondering about this too. My opion is the Sims 4 were supposed to come to an end about this year or maybe next year. I expected the Sims 5 to be announced this year and being published next year. But for some reason the Sims 5 are still not announced. For me this could be the reason for the lack of packs this year. Kits are easier to produce and don't take as much time as a pack. And they don't need a huge staff for programming. I wonder if the main Sims 4 staff allready works at Sims 5. For me kits were supposed to be the placeholder untill the release of Sims 5.
I don't know if I'm right but maybe they have a big problem with Sims 5 not being released and not having packs for Sims 4 in work. I really hope the kits are not the new stuff packs and we are having new packs coming soon.
Wow, I just realized the newest pack is paranormal stuff
Shoot, maybe I need the paranormal
Pack, I don’t have that.
I am afraid, that we are going to the end of the road, with Sims4...And thanks for a really good, and informative video.. I must say, I agree... 👍❤️👍
I don't think this is the end of stuff packs but of course I could be wrong. As far as kits go, I don't mind them BUT I would love something other than content for YA/Adult sims. Tried to dress my toddler boys today and WOW how lacking are we in that department. Give me a kit for tots, kids and teens and I'm there!.. and yes PLEASE, Generations gameplay!
1. Do you have October nails? (cute) 2. I'm pretty sure the guru's said kits were filler content to avoid a drought. I think they have a different definition of "drought".
I do!! They’re just black and orange but they bring me joy 🥰 and ugh, I need other content so badly
TAYLOR WE ARE SOOOO CLOSE TO 100K
They told us that kits would not effect the release of packs so I believe them and don't think we've seen the last of Stuff Packs. I hope we get a second one this year otherwise I expect there will be one in January. I'd love to do another community vote one! And I am completely for Kit's. I love them and want to keep them coming
I love stuff packs!!! My favorite one is laundry day!!!!!! What is your Taylor? Also, sadly I think kits are gonna start replacing game packs 😔
Hi! Of couse they are grabbing as much money as they can from us, they work for money not really for our entertainment 😂 Speaking of kits and stuff packs, I ended up with your same conclusion, but onestly if this could mean that maybe game packs would be mooore rich, I'm okay with that. Kits for only "new stuff", and game packs for stuff, careers, aspirations, traits, maybe new worlds, as well as a tiny expansion pack. I think that they want to give a new specific face (and price) to contents, and maybe take more time to focus and work on future (and bigger) GP or EP while giving us bits of simple content as "kits". Still making money periodically with minimum effort (kits), effort to give to future GP and EP instead, or even game refreshes, as long as TheSims4 exists. This is my intricate opinion 😅
🥺i dont want it to go i need it for new stuff we all need new stuff im gonna cry if it goes i will cry and cry every day i need sims 4 to stay i need itt🥺
I'm only missing one stuff pack.. Kits I have bought 3 of them Country Kitchen, Industrial Loft and throwback Fit Kit.. I really hope that SP aren't disappearing. The only content I buy the most of.. To me expansion packs and game packs are hit or miss.. As kits go more misses then hits.. Not sure it is the Sims team.. I think EA is trying to grab has much money as it can and hope we all line up and keep paying without question.. I love playing the sims 4.. Also think why buy kits, stuff packs and such when there are many talented custom creators that can make better content.. I mean I have over 2GBs of custom content and enjoy spending time looking and adding things to my collection..
The kits are so annoying. Like some of the stuff in them is good especially for representing some other cultures but I don’t wanna have to pay for representation. Also, other than maybe courtyard oasis, I have not seen a kit that couldn’t have been combined as an update to an existing pack. Throwback fit? That should be in fitness stuff. Country kitchen? Why on earth isn’t that in cottage living? Industrial loft? That really should go with city living. Fashion street is super cool Indian fashion and representation that should be in base game.
Also I wouldn’t mind as much if it was cheaper. If kits were somewhere more like $1 to $2.50 I’d buy them. They are really worth $3 max. The only ones I think I’m probably going to cave and buy are courtyard oasis and fashion street just because I want more diversity and representation in my game.
Also I have been waiting for them to go on sale cause I’m so determined not to pay full price but so far none of they have gone on sale! They really expect me to pay their ridiculous full price…
Kits bother me.
I can’t stand kits because I play the sims for gameplay. Cas and bb aren’t as important to me. Stuff packs need to return.
I think the problem is that stuff packs started to become mini gamepacks while gamepacks were also mini expansions, in the previous games it was easy to tell apart expansions and stuff pack, now you have gameplay, cas and build items in all of them, and while I think that kits need to either have more stuff or lower their prices I rather have kits that are easily skipable like in previous games than having to buy all the games to have the full gameplay and have stuff packs become full gamepacks or just be included in expansions, but I don't think this means is the end of the sims 4 but a change in economics, stuff packs were too cheap for how good they were becoming (I mean that as EA point of view)
Kits need to be cheaper or have more stuff in them. Now they ar little shiti.😬 We need more stuff pack like Paranormal stuff.
Yuck!!! I'm so sick of kits. *crying* They're too expensive!! It's $5 for clothes that don't matter AT ALL in gameplay. I really wish EA would add some clothing gameplay so it'd be worth it (like the sims actually recognizing when they're wearing their favorite colors, and attraction based on style). These kits are so sad and a waste of time.
Or having to like idk actually buy clothes like irl. Lmao yeah like who cares this is the least realistic life sim
@@elye0987 True! That would be cool if they actually could buy clothes and piece outfits together in the morning. but No, they don't mind wearing the same thing for years lol.
I just started playing the Sims 4 during the pandemic last year when it was first released on Steam. I refuse to buy the stuff packs from before 2018 because I don’t feel like they are worth the price to get 3 or 4 things, and no gameplay. I also don’t really like the kits. None of them have really been catered to my personal style of playing besides the Country Kitchen Kit.
I would really appreciate it if EA would continue refreshing the existing packs and updating the base game. Dine Out is still extremely buggy. I have issues with Seasons sometimes when it’s snowing or raining. There’s so much to be fixed and I feel like they are just releasing these little kits because they’re out of ideas for stuff packs. We’ve been begging them to fix babies, and make the overall game better and their response is “Here’s a new kit to buy, it’s only $5. Build an Industrial Loft”
Honestly I would not have noticed this if it weren't for the fact that you pointed it out. I rarely look at trends in The Sims franchise. Thank you for pointing this out to me. That said I am annoyed with the kits and have yet to purchase one. I am more inclined to buy a stuff pack for the simple fact that it comes with 1 Premium item at least. Hopefully this is not a harbinger of the end nor the destruction of stuff packs.
Just my therapy, but I think the sims team has had all of these kits planned out for longer than we’ve even known about kits. The release schedule was probably made thinking that there would be a much more positive response to kits in general. I’m hoping they listen moving forward and either make kits worth the money or focus on the other kinds of DLC we already have.
Instead of CAS kits, how about fashion kits?
I only switched to Sims 4 (from 3) in January because I couldn't let go of the occults and paranormal. The thing that bothers me with the kits is that it is the only place to get things to increase Sim diversity. It seems like a money grab for someone wanting diversity. CC can replace what is missing but not everyone has access to CC.
Kits and game packs are the hugest scams!! I love so many of the game packs but even with the existence of it, it doesn’t feel any better then the previous games which is what their motive should be for the sims4. I just hope the sims 5 isn’t the same and has everything we ever wanted the sims4 to be but much better ofc
Do you think sims will ever give us horses again like sims 3?.... I love having horses in my game it was one of my favs from sims 3 💜💯🇦🇺
I doubt it. The world isn't open enough for the horses to run in. The most they'd give us is a large horse corral object, where the horse can run in a circle.
NO NOT THE KITS
Kits should be $3.
I'll never get kits as a PC player. I can just get the same amount of content as cc for free instead of paying 5 dollars for each small kit
EARLLYYYYYY!
If we disregard all of the kits this year...we would’ve only gotten 3 packs throughout the ENTIRE YEAR
Thank you for mentioning that. No one seems to be talking about it. We've had more kits than actual expansion, stuff or game packs combined this year. And people think Sims 5 is going to be an improvement.....LOL!!!!
I love the sims 4.its sims 2 then 4.4 beats 3 just because I hated the way you couldn't move sims without losing all thier relationships.sims 4 has issues but if it had open neighborhoods it might be my fav...but it doesn't,so it isn't lmao
I said a while ago stuff packs are going
I think that's because EA doesn't WANT us to get value for our money. That should be obvious, since they limit their developers (the devs have expressed their frustration at this - in a subtle way, because I think they were afraid to speak out too much) in what they're even allowed to put in an expansion, game pack, or stuff pack. When we saw the reveal on RoM, this was very apparent; the two devs that were showing that pack off, said there were other things they wanted to do, but weren't allowed to.
It's quite obvious that once WE are getting value for our money, EA becomes discontent, and feels that THEY aren't getting enough money for our value.
It's rather a cynical thing to have to say, but unfortunately, it's what EA's behaviour certainly points at.
I don't buy any kits. I own everything else.
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Kits are probably the result of the pandemic. If they are still working from home they can only do so much.
For example complicated motion capture for animations is something that they probably can't do from home. Like the ones we see with spell casting or light saber fights. However making a very simple animation for Bust the Dust is doable.
I don't think this will be the end of stuff packs or other kinds of packs, it's just the stupid pandemic.
I hope this is why!!
Kits are a waste of resources
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@@taylorsaurus omg hiiii
The fact that we've gotten so many kits tells you how successful the micro transactions are for EA. Mmmm tasty consumerism. Ewww icky content.
It’s my understanding that kits are niche content release between the bigger packs that they offer. I’m totally cool with it. Don’t get why everyone is so prickly about it. 🤷🏽♀️
Because we've barely had nothing in between the kits. We've had 9 kits this year compared to 1 expansion pack, 1 stuff pack and 1 game pack that's buggy and doesn't work (Home Decorator). All they talk about is kits but have announced nothing about any other packs and it's almost the end of the year. So that "in between packs" theory is CRAP.
This is the saddest video you've posted lol.
😂it breaks my heart if it’s true
If Sims doesn't stop being all over the map and pull it together it's going to be the end of them 😓 They need to hire new guru's
Its EA's fault, not the gurus.