Sounds like pretty good advice. Would really like to see your next video of you testing your bag and equipment. Either in an urban area overnight or woodland overnight.
I recommend adding a Victorinox Huntsman. It provides smaller and thinner knife blades than a single blade locking pocket knife, and multiple tools (scissors, flat driver, cap lifter, Phillips driver (the fine flat tip on the can opener), can opener, small wood saw, awl, parcel hook, and cork screw). In addition to opening a corked wine bottle, the cork screw can be used for untying knots, removing staples, scratch marking, and holding a fine flat screwdriver, fine tweezers, and toothpick). It is the main knife I carry because it is so useful. I bought a suspension clip to keep it vertical in my pocket. Also, consider a Mora Companion fixed blade knife. It is inexpensive, light weight, durable, versatile, and proven. Although. not highly useful in an urban environment (except for maybe food prep), it becomes more useful as tree density increases.
Hello there. While the Huntsman is a good tool, and I have SAKs in other places as well as a Leatherman Wave in my EDC pouch, the additional room in this bag allows me to have purpose-built tools (scissors, screwdriver set, saw) that work better for what they're intended for, especially considering the very limited reach and access of the screwdrivers in the Huntsman. The canvas needle can be used for scratch marking, removing staples, and makes a fantastic awl when held with the pliers. I also cover the can and bottle openers as well as tweezers in part 3. I definitely wanted to have more robust, dedicated solutions for things like tools, first aid, food and water because I think they are among the most important things to have in a BoB. I also get the benefits of a fixed blade knife, but for me, I think a high quality, super strong folding blade is a better option, since I can easily put it in my pocket or clip it to my pants instead of the more limited options to carry a fixed blade, many of which also require a sheath. Nothing wrong with your choices, but having dedicated tools that work in more scenarios as well as a knife that has more flexible carry options are why I went in the direction that I did. Have a great day!
Hello listening to your point of view and reasoning and yes I heard that one word 9 times. ;) yeah I’ve not a fan of those card tools either. Personally I like to put them together, as one tends to know it better overall versus pre made, and can be fine tuned better. Take CaRe
Thanks so much! I saw some BoB videos with duplicate items for redundancy, 11 ways to start a fire and a small multitool in a full size 3-day backpack, so I thought I had to weigh in.
I know that it's not a hand forged 5000 layer Damascus blade, but as far as mainstream knives that are made in a factory and not in an artisan workshop, the Griptilian is absolutely a premium knife.
@@cleverengineering2 doesn’t have to be Damascus. Doesn’t have to be an artisan knife. Plenty of premium factory made blades are available it’s 2023. In modern knife standards magnacut, m4, s110v, m390 would be considered premium imo. A s30v or 154cm griptilian depending on how recently you bought it would be considered a mid tier knife for most people who know knives. I guess it all depends on your definition of premium.
I like a lot of your insights. I do wonder: for you, what is your reason to choose many dedicated-use items as opposed to multi-use? I tend in the other direction.
Thanks for the compliment. Fair question. I talked about it with some of the specific items in the video, but the general answer is that you can do way more with a dedicated item. A few examples from this video: - The good but still small Leatherman pliers that live in my EDC pouch or the tiny pliers in a SAK are not at all comparable to a 6 inch wrench and Knipex Twingrip - The quick setting epoxy and woundseal powder are far more effective (for both wound sealing and gluing) compared to super glue - The dedicated saws are way faster and more effective than a multitool saw blade - The single purpose pry bar is effective in a very large number of situations, where a fixed blade knife or a tool that combines a prybar with something else is only effective in a very small number of situations Because of capacity in the BoB, I really wanted to maximize the effectiveness of each item, particularly as they might apply to a Bug Outs scenario, and that's why you see so many dedicated items here.
@@cleverengineering2 I see-yes, you did go into that some. I think I see your point. I’m still going to be a Leatherman multitool person, but I do see your way.
Well thought out bag, however from experience I'd cut the Stanley and folding chain saw for a quality folding saw. They serve the same purpose and for the same price or less you can get a better one.
I actually used both - the folding chain saw once (on a large and thick branch) and the Stanley several times (on smaller branches as well as on drywall.) The super light Stanley and folding chain saw COMBINED weigh as much and take up the same space as a quality folding saw, so that's the reason that I have two different saws - IMO they are more useful in more scenarios, and have no size / weight penalty.
I like the idea of including epoxy, but I feel like I'd throw in a bottle of CA glue and bondic or some other UV resin. They don't take up a lot of space, but they're handy for fixing lots of little things. I use them more than epoxy in regular life.
I bought the multi pack single use CA glue from the Dollar Tree and put several into a plastic/acrylic storage cylinder (Dollar Tree sells them in a 6 pack) to prevent them from getting damaged and leaking.
So i am commenting before the end of the video. About 7 and a half minutes in. I live in an urban/suburban/industrial area in California, so i think having a lot of these tools are great in theory. However, i think quite a lot of them could be kept at your bugout location. Not sure what your plan is, but you should have one or more locations with family and friends far enough away to be safe from whatever you might be fleeing from. You can easily keep some of these tools there. (I would also obviously suggest keeping food, water, and more shelter items there) Two wrenches make sense. But if one was a multitool, you could also do away with one or both of the screwdrivers and possibly even the folding saw. There are quite a number of videos on youtube about modding leatherman tools specifically to hold sawzall blades. A bit kit, a couple different saw blades for various purposes, and you can eliminate a good portion of your tools. And i do agree with your pry bar. However, some fixed blade knives would also serve as replacements. Im assuming it is to get into or out of a building/room. I live in an apartment and i specifically keep a Becker BK 2 in my bedroom in case i need to extract myself from my room after an earthquake etc. The Gerber Strongarm is also a good knife for this (among many others) These knifes can pry open doors or failing that "dig" through the door or even the drywall. One solid full tang knife and one multitool with proper attachments would weight significantly less and also take up significantly less room in your pack. I am interested in the rest of your video and any more in the series. Obviously, im not trying to pick apart your video, but trying to lend legitimate constructive criticism.
Hello. I appreciate your feedback and want to address everything that you mentioned. The purpose of this BoB an the contents is to be available to move with me. I wasn't planning to keep some of the items at a specific location, since said location may not be accessible if something happens. Having said that, I explained (towards the end of the video) that this is a fully customized solution that works for me. If you have a Bug Out location that you are confident will almost certainly be accessible to you in case of emergency, then of course your solution will be different from mine. I also explained in this video that I use a Leatherman Wave with a bit extension and bit kit in my EDC pouch, and why I don't use a multitool in my BoB - I fully understand that I can eliminate a good portion of my tools (like I did in my EDC pouch) but I would also eliminate a lot of tasks that I can perform with the purpose-built tools that simply aren't possible with a multitool. I also explain why I don't use a saw blade on a multitool when I discuss the saws (this would apply to a modified multitool as well.) Finally, I considered the real-world usefulness of the tools that I selected. If you were going to pry open a door in a Bug Out situation, it would most likely be an entrance door that would not be surrounded by drywall and would stand up to all but the largest full tang fixed blade knives. Again, I appreciate the feedback, but these are all factors that I considered, and everything (except the purpose of the BoB) was discussed in the video. Have a good day.
Thanks for the reply! As i mentioned before, im not trying to be a jerk, just trying to make sure you have justifications for the things you want to bring. My biggest recommendation of all would be to think about why you need a BoB. Its different for everyone. You mentioned power outages, hurricanes, etc. So it seems like those and other, similar disasters are the most likely reasons you might need to flee your home. For me, it would be a fire or earthquake. So, while i do have a bugout bag, a fire or earthquake is still pretty localized. Getting 20-50 miles away would likely be enough to get out of the MOST disasters. So having friends and family a ways away would be my best Primary bugout location (following a PACE plan) Dont get me wrong, i fully try to plan for plan for eventualities like "what if i get to my bugout location and it isnt safe?" So its perfectly reasonable to be tool heavy. But being tool heavy to the point while also losing mobility might be detrimental to your overall safety. As you mentioned, its all about compromise. We will never be able to carry all of the things we want, but we should make sure to not carry too many things that dont have clearly defined purposes. Additionally, finding multifunctional solutions to common problems is super important. After all, thats what refugees and homeless people do. And isnt that what a good portion of "bugging out" is? To leave your home and try to flee danger? So while having some of these things might be nice or useful, im not entirely sure how some of them might be effective at actually keeping yourself (and any loved ones who might be traveling with you) alive. Again, its entirely possible that you, as an engineer with experience i dont have, might be able to find creative ways to use these things, i am somewhat concerned that you might be overlooking tried and true techniques that are used to keep the human body alive. Again, just trying to keep the conversation friendly. I am definitely planning to watch any additional videos on the topic, and i find your views on the topic so far fascinating.
Hello again. I appreciate that you have been friendly and respectful. I understand and mentioned in the video that every person has different needs and what works for me may not work for you, and I also want to reiterate that every item in the bag has a very specific purpose (for me) in a situation that I think I am reasonably likely to encounter. Again, speaking for myself, I don't have a specific bug out location, and part of that is based on where I live and work, because there is a good possibility that I won't be able to get to a specific bug out location in a reasonable amount of time so the location being safe or unsafe is moot (for me) if it can't be reached in the first place. The tools in my bag only weigh a combined total of a few pounds. I know exactly how much the bag weighs with all the contents (which will be revealed in a future video) but I haven't weighed each individual item. However, these single purpose tools, like the pliers and wrench, are helpful in so many situations that I can imagine encountering in a way that the excellent but small pliers on a Leatherman (which lives in my EDC pouch) or the tiny pliers on a SAK simply can't handle. In both emergency and non-emergency situations, I have encountered broken equipment that I understand how to repair (actual examples are a generator and a heater) and while this isn't anything close to a full set of tools, using my engineering training along with some improvisation, it will be MUCH more likely that I can get very useful equipment working with dedicated tools as opposed to a far more limited multitool. I also understand that some of my choices are non-traditional, and when I lead a project or present a proposal, I am regularly told 'well, we've been doing it this way for the last 8 years.' I will immediately reply 'I'm trying to help you do it in a better way now, so you don't do it less effectively for the next 8 years.' As far as keeping the human body alive, this video is only part 1, and has items in just 5 of the 14 survival categories that I classified. Categories like containers (which includes water purification,) cover / shelter, and cut care / first aid are all going to be covered in future videos. I'm not going to provide any spoilers, but just like with this video, there are some things that you would expect in every BoB (like paracord and waterproof matches) and some surprises (like no multitool or super glue.) Again, appreciate the feedback and respectful conversation. Have a great day!
Oddly enough, about a week ago I was reviewing one of the evac bags in my household and found myself wondering why I had a (subpar) multitool in said bad when a handful of specific tools would be both less expensive than a better multitool and would perform wildly better, while not taking up vastly more space. To me, a multitool is something you carry on your person because you simply can't carry much in the way of proper tools. But if I have a backpack, there's no reason to make the massive compromise on functionality that is a multitool.
Super BOB. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series. I've the Esbit, but my favorite little solid fuel stove is the BCB Fire Dragon. It has an extra piece of removable wind shield that works great when needed. It can be modified for hexamine cubes, but I prefer to make my own fuel to bypass the smell of hexamine. Great video!
So weight?? Thats gonna be the biggest factor unless you train with the weight. In fact train with more weight. And also you need to pack more space.. Dump pouch or folding back pack in case you find something you need on yoir travels
The weight will be revealed in a future video - this is part 1 of 3. Also the pouch doesn't go into my BoB. It is only to show where some of the items are and why (like the multitool) and that some combo items (like super glue) don't do certain tasks well enough, which is why I have epoxy and woundseal powder (but different sizes) in both my pouch and BoB.
I'm a retired Navy SERE Instructor, and noticed some flaws in your kit. Your means of heating/cooking , why a stove that needs a commercial fuel source? It doesn't matter if it is the gas stove or the Esbit stove, you have to carry the fuel with you, and when it runs out you are done and it is dead weight. Check out the EmberLit stoves, you will find them lighter in weight and much smaller in size. I have to ask, have you used your your kit under adverse conditions. And over redundancy isn't about space, it is about weight. "ounces=pounds and pounds = PAIN" I also didn't see any spare batteries or a means of recharging any rechargeable batteries you may have. Have you actually used that chainsaw gadget? Why do you need a whole set of super fine screwdriver bits? Where is your cooking gear? What about water? Generally speaking, your kit should be based around the rule of 3s (3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food) I'm not trying to dawg you on this, but I would rather you actually survive a situation than curse it as you slowly die.
Hello. While I appreciate your feedback, I have to disagree with what you called 'flaws' and I'll explain point-by-point. First, a BoB is intended to be used for a maximum of 72 hours; it's not a long-term solution. Between a stove that has 220g of commercial fuel (which burns for over 2 hours and can be shut off and re-lit as desired) and the Esbit tablets, each of which burns for 15 minutes, that will definitely meet the requirements. Once the fuel runs out, both stoves add a combined total of 8 oz / 227g, so IMO this is completely acceptable. Second, I consider all aspects of redundancy. They not only include space and weight, but functionality in different scenarios (which is why I don't have multiple lighters) and likelihood of use (I explained that no Navy Seal ever said nine is eight and eight is seven.) Third, I showed some spare Lithium batteries at 20:12 and brought up spare rechargeable batteries at 20:21; I'll show the rechargeable spares in a future video when I discuss the Communication / signaling section. Fourth, I used the chainsaw gadget once, and it was VERY effective and quick with a thick tree branch. It also looked brand new and was just as sharp after I cleaned it. Fifth, the precision screwdriver (along with some of the other dedicated tools) are there because I have actually encountered and repaired a generator as well as multiple heaters using fairly few (but actual dedicated) tools. I have both knowledge and experience when it comes to repairing electronics, so the precision screwdriver is for a scenario where a potentially useful but broken or damaged piece of electronic gear might be encountered in a bug out situation. Sixth, both the cooking and water gear will be covered in the future video under the 'Container' category - this video is part 1, which only covers the first 5 categories. I regularly discuss engineering solutions and implementations with clients, and they say 'well we've been doing it this way for the last 8 years.' I immediately counter 'well we want to improve things so you are doing it in a better way for the next 8 years.' My point here is that I expanded the 10 Cs and added 4 more because I believe that there is a better way, and that also extends to food. I fully understand (and mention in the video) that people may disagree that I added 'Calories / food' as a survival category, but I also fully understand that if you're on the move, being able to simply survive for 3 days (forget about 3 weeks) while not being able to perform well physically or to focus well mentally because you are starving is not acceptable for me. I customized this bag based on what works for me. While I am not a professional survivalist, I am a professional system engineer and I also have quite a bit of wilderness and outdoor experience. I explained in the video that every single item has been carefully selected based on the same logic and criteria that I apply in my work on a daily basis. Again, I appreciate your feedback, and hopefully my explanation above will make the thought process behind my choices a little more clear.
@michael I agree with you and notice the same flaws. Judging by his response to useful comments he seems to know better than trained experts. God bless and thank you for your service. The only good day was yesterday.
The only flaw I see here is that you clearly didn't read my explanation above before leaving your comment :( In my explanation above, I pointed out that the batteries are explained in the video (with the timestamp,) why I have the precision screwdriver, the fact that cooking and water gear will be covered in a future video, etc. So having said all that, if you actually read my explanation, what are these 'same flaws' that you claim to notice?
@@cleverengineering2 I am curious, what practical survival experience do you have? Have you taken that kit out for a 72 hour field trip? Have you actually used this kit under adverse conditions? And let me ask you this, when was the last time we had a major disaster that lasted 72 hours or less? After Katrina hit it took FEMA more than 72 hours to get supplies and services to the people of New Orleans and the surrounding area. I've been doing this for over 45 years, and I've learned from people with more experience than me, made mistakes, survived and have been an instructor since 1989. I was trying to give you the benefit of my experience. It is much easier to learn from the mistakes of others than make the mistakes yourself.
Fair question. I have taken the bag out for several field trips and I've used it twice under adverse conditions. I just posted a new video with part 2 of the BoB - ruclips.net/video/3uK36M9FCdE/видео.html - and while I respect experience, I explained at several points in part 2 that just because there is a traditional way to do things, that doesn't mean it's the only way or even the best way. I also pointed out items in both parts 1 and 2 (and will point out more in part 3) that I changed or added in the last year because the bag is always evolving, since I'm always looking for a better way. I regularly explain in presentations to clients that just because something has been done a certain way for the last 8 years doesn't mean that it can't be done in a better way for the next 8 years, and I also explained at the beginning of part 2 that doing things a certain way just because it worked in the past is was a hard lesson learned by Blackberry, Kodak and Radio Shack. Customization is one of the 5 concepts I used when I created the bag; what works for me may not work for you and I understand that. However, I tried to thoroughly explain WHY I made the choices that I made, and the reason will never be 'well, that's just how it's been done for X number of years.' While I'm not a professional survivalist or instructor, I am a professional system engineer. I solve problems for a living and I've been told that I'm very good at my job. I've also been an avid and experienced wilderness enthusiast since I was a child. Between my professional expertise, my non-professional experience, and my problem-solving abilities, I know that the choices I made have worked for me in the past and I am very comfortable that they will continue to work for me in the future.
A lot of stuff you're showing isn't in frame of the camera :/ also you're like super super quiet. I have to turn my volume all the way up just to hear you.
You can have the most expensive BugOut bag in the world, but if you don't carry a comprehensive medical kit, you could die. You should carry a Trama Kit and a good all-around medical kit.
This is part 1 of the video, which only covers the first 5 of the 14 survival categories I identified. Category 11 (Cut care / first aid) will be covered in a future video.
only use for this bag is to stay in car there is no food shelter way to filter water no blanket if you had to hike/walk looks too heavy in short you wont last too long i have 35+ years in the outdoors 10 years military bug out bag weight 20 - 30 lbs do more research before making another video
You clearly didn't watch the videos (you just looked at the thumbnails) based on how ridiculous your comment is. The bag with everything in it (from all 3 videos combined) weighs a total of 33 lbs. The fact that you just said 35 years experience also proves that you didn't watch the videos because I clearly explained, especially in parts 2 and 3, that someone trying to use number of years of experience to prove that they are right won't get them very far. Do more research (by actually watching the videos instead of looking at the thumbnails) before making another stupid comment!
Sounds like pretty good advice. Would really like to see your next video of you testing your bag and equipment. Either in an urban area overnight or woodland overnight.
I recommend adding a Victorinox Huntsman. It provides smaller and thinner knife blades than a single blade locking pocket knife, and multiple tools (scissors, flat driver, cap lifter, Phillips driver (the fine flat tip on the can opener), can opener, small wood saw, awl, parcel hook, and cork screw). In addition to opening a corked wine bottle, the cork screw can be used for untying knots, removing staples, scratch marking, and holding a fine flat screwdriver, fine tweezers, and toothpick). It is the main knife I carry because it is so useful. I bought a suspension clip to keep it vertical in my pocket.
Also, consider a Mora Companion fixed blade knife. It is inexpensive, light weight, durable, versatile, and proven. Although. not highly useful in an urban environment (except for maybe food prep), it becomes more useful as tree density increases.
Hello there. While the Huntsman is a good tool, and I have SAKs in other places as well as a Leatherman Wave in my EDC pouch, the additional room in this bag allows me to have purpose-built tools (scissors, screwdriver set, saw) that work better for what they're intended for, especially considering the very limited reach and access of the screwdrivers in the Huntsman. The canvas needle can be used for scratch marking, removing staples, and makes a fantastic awl when held with the pliers. I also cover the can and bottle openers as well as tweezers in part 3. I definitely wanted to have more robust, dedicated solutions for things like tools, first aid, food and water because I think they are among the most important things to have in a BoB.
I also get the benefits of a fixed blade knife, but for me, I think a high quality, super strong folding blade is a better option, since I can easily put it in my pocket or clip it to my pants instead of the more limited options to carry a fixed blade, many of which also require a sheath.
Nothing wrong with your choices, but having dedicated tools that work in more scenarios as well as a knife that has more flexible carry options are why I went in the direction that I did.
Have a great day!
Hello listening to your point of view and reasoning and yes I heard that one word 9 times. ;) yeah I’ve not a fan of those card tools either. Personally I like to put them together, as one tends to know it better overall versus pre made, and can be fine tuned better. Take CaRe
I like your thought processes and most of your gear choices quite a lot. Good video.
Thanks so much! I saw some BoB videos with duplicate items for redundancy, 11 ways to start a fire and a small multitool in a full size 3-day backpack, so I thought I had to weigh in.
not a good video no food shelter way to filter water no emer blanket
Great information, great video. Love your thought process on these items. And yes those wallet survival cards are absolute garbage!
Did this man say the griptilian is a premium knife? Boy, have I got news for you😂😂
I know that it's not a hand forged 5000 layer Damascus blade, but as far as mainstream knives that are made in a factory and not in an artisan workshop, the Griptilian is absolutely a premium knife.
@@cleverengineering2 doesn’t have to be Damascus. Doesn’t have to be an artisan knife. Plenty of premium factory made blades are available it’s 2023. In modern knife standards magnacut, m4, s110v, m390 would be considered premium imo. A s30v or 154cm griptilian depending on how recently you bought it would be considered a mid tier knife for most people who know knives. I guess it all depends on your definition of premium.
I like a lot of your insights. I do wonder: for you, what is your reason to choose many dedicated-use items as opposed to multi-use? I tend in the other direction.
Thanks for the compliment. Fair question.
I talked about it with some of the specific items in the video, but the general answer is that you can do way more with a dedicated item.
A few examples from this video:
- The good but still small Leatherman pliers that live in my EDC pouch or the tiny pliers in a SAK are not at all comparable to a 6 inch wrench and Knipex Twingrip
- The quick setting epoxy and woundseal powder are far more effective (for both wound sealing and gluing) compared to super glue
- The dedicated saws are way faster and more effective than a multitool saw blade
- The single purpose pry bar is effective in a very large number of situations, where a fixed blade knife or a tool that combines a prybar with something else is only effective in a very small number of situations
Because of capacity in the BoB, I really wanted to maximize the effectiveness of each item, particularly as they might apply to a Bug Outs scenario, and that's why you see so many dedicated items here.
@@cleverengineering2 I see-yes, you did go into that some. I think I see your point. I’m still going to be a Leatherman multitool person, but I do see your way.
Well thought out bag, however from experience I'd cut the Stanley and folding chain saw for a quality folding saw. They serve the same purpose and for the same price or less you can get a better one.
I actually used both - the folding chain saw once (on a large and thick branch) and the Stanley several times (on smaller branches as well as on drywall.)
The super light Stanley and folding chain saw COMBINED weigh as much and take up the same space as a quality folding saw, so that's the reason that I have two different saws - IMO they are more useful in more scenarios, and have no size / weight penalty.
I like the idea of including epoxy, but I feel like I'd throw in a bottle of CA glue and bondic or some other UV resin. They don't take up a lot of space, but they're handy for fixing lots of little things. I use them more than epoxy in regular life.
I bought the multi pack single use CA glue from the Dollar Tree and put several into a plastic/acrylic storage cylinder (Dollar Tree sells them in a 6 pack) to prevent them from getting damaged and leaking.
So i am commenting before the end of the video. About 7 and a half minutes in.
I live in an urban/suburban/industrial area in California, so i think having a lot of these tools are great in theory.
However, i think quite a lot of them could be kept at your bugout location. Not sure what your plan is, but you should have one or more locations with family and friends far enough away to be safe from whatever you might be fleeing from. You can easily keep some of these tools there. (I would also obviously suggest keeping food, water, and more shelter items there)
Two wrenches make sense. But if one was a multitool, you could also do away with one or both of the screwdrivers and possibly even the folding saw.
There are quite a number of videos on youtube about modding leatherman tools specifically to hold sawzall blades.
A bit kit, a couple different saw blades for various purposes, and you can eliminate a good portion of your tools.
And i do agree with your pry bar. However, some fixed blade knives would also serve as replacements. Im assuming it is to get into or out of a building/room.
I live in an apartment and i specifically keep a Becker BK 2 in my bedroom in case i need to extract myself from my room after an earthquake etc.
The Gerber Strongarm is also a good knife for this (among many others)
These knifes can pry open doors or failing that "dig" through the door or even the drywall.
One solid full tang knife and one multitool with proper attachments would weight significantly less and also take up significantly less room in your pack.
I am interested in the rest of your video and any more in the series. Obviously, im not trying to pick apart your video, but trying to lend legitimate constructive criticism.
Hello.
I appreciate your feedback and want to address everything that you mentioned.
The purpose of this BoB an the contents is to be available to move with me. I wasn't planning to keep some of the items at a specific location, since said location may not be accessible if something happens.
Having said that, I explained (towards the end of the video) that this is a fully customized solution that works for me. If you have a Bug Out location that you are confident will almost certainly be accessible to you in case of emergency, then of course your solution will be different from mine.
I also explained in this video that I use a Leatherman Wave with a bit extension and bit kit in my EDC pouch, and why I don't use a multitool in my BoB - I fully understand that I can eliminate a good portion of my tools (like I did in my EDC pouch) but I would also eliminate a lot of tasks that I can perform with the purpose-built tools that simply aren't possible with a multitool.
I also explain why I don't use a saw blade on a multitool when I discuss the saws (this would apply to a modified multitool as well.)
Finally, I considered the real-world usefulness of the tools that I selected. If you were going to pry open a door in a Bug Out situation, it would most likely be an entrance door that would not be surrounded by drywall and would stand up to all but the largest full tang fixed blade knives.
Again, I appreciate the feedback, but these are all factors that I considered, and everything (except the purpose of the BoB) was discussed in the video.
Have a good day.
Thanks for the reply!
As i mentioned before, im not trying to be a jerk, just trying to make sure you have justifications for the things you want to bring.
My biggest recommendation of all would be to think about why you need a BoB. Its different for everyone. You mentioned power outages, hurricanes, etc.
So it seems like those and other, similar disasters are the most likely reasons you might need to flee your home.
For me, it would be a fire or earthquake. So, while i do have a bugout bag, a fire or earthquake is still pretty localized. Getting 20-50 miles away would likely be enough to get out of the MOST disasters.
So having friends and family a ways away would be my best Primary bugout location (following a PACE plan)
Dont get me wrong, i fully try to plan for plan for eventualities like "what if i get to my bugout location and it isnt safe?"
So its perfectly reasonable to be tool heavy. But being tool heavy to the point while also losing mobility might be detrimental to your overall safety.
As you mentioned, its all about compromise. We will never be able to carry all of the things we want, but we should make sure to not carry too many things that dont have clearly defined purposes.
Additionally, finding multifunctional solutions to common problems is super important. After all, thats what refugees and homeless people do. And isnt that what a good portion of "bugging out" is? To leave your home and try to flee danger?
So while having some of these things might be nice or useful, im not entirely sure how some of them might be effective at actually keeping yourself (and any loved ones who might be traveling with you) alive. Again, its entirely possible that you, as an engineer with experience i dont have, might be able to find creative ways to use these things, i am somewhat concerned that you might be overlooking tried and true techniques that are used to keep the human body alive.
Again, just trying to keep the conversation friendly. I am definitely planning to watch any additional videos on the topic, and i find your views on the topic so far fascinating.
Hello again. I appreciate that you have been friendly and respectful.
I understand and mentioned in the video that every person has different needs and what works for me may not work for you, and I also want to reiterate that every item in the bag has a very specific purpose (for me) in a situation that I think I am reasonably likely to encounter.
Again, speaking for myself, I don't have a specific bug out location, and part of that is based on where I live and work, because there is a good possibility that I won't be able to get to a specific bug out location in a reasonable amount of time so the location being safe or unsafe is moot (for me) if it can't be reached in the first place.
The tools in my bag only weigh a combined total of a few pounds. I know exactly how much the bag weighs with all the contents (which will be revealed in a future video) but I haven't weighed each individual item. However, these single purpose tools, like the pliers and wrench, are helpful in so many situations that I can imagine encountering in a way that the excellent but small pliers on a Leatherman (which lives in my EDC pouch) or the tiny pliers on a SAK simply can't handle.
In both emergency and non-emergency situations, I have encountered broken equipment that I understand how to repair (actual examples are a generator and a heater) and while this isn't anything close to a full set of tools, using my engineering training along with some improvisation, it will be MUCH more likely that I can get very useful equipment working with dedicated tools as opposed to a far more limited multitool.
I also understand that some of my choices are non-traditional, and when I lead a project or present a proposal, I am regularly told 'well, we've been doing it this way for the last 8 years.' I will immediately reply 'I'm trying to help you do it in a better way now, so you don't do it less effectively for the next 8 years.'
As far as keeping the human body alive, this video is only part 1, and has items in just 5 of the 14 survival categories that I classified. Categories like containers (which includes water purification,) cover / shelter, and cut care / first aid are all going to be covered in future videos.
I'm not going to provide any spoilers, but just like with this video, there are some things that you would expect in every BoB (like paracord and waterproof matches) and some surprises (like no multitool or super glue.)
Again, appreciate the feedback and respectful conversation.
Have a great day!
Oddly enough, about a week ago I was reviewing one of the evac bags in my household and found myself wondering why I had a (subpar) multitool in said bad when a handful of specific tools would be both less expensive than a better multitool and would perform wildly better, while not taking up vastly more space.
To me, a multitool is something you carry on your person because you simply can't carry much in the way of proper tools. But if I have a backpack, there's no reason to make the massive compromise on functionality that is a multitool.
Super BOB. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series. I've the Esbit, but my favorite little solid fuel stove is the BCB Fire Dragon. It has an extra piece of removable wind shield that works great when needed. It can be modified for hexamine cubes, but I prefer to make my own fuel to bypass the smell of hexamine. Great video!
So weight?? Thats gonna be the biggest factor unless you train with the weight. In fact train with more weight. And also you need to pack more space.. Dump pouch or folding back pack in case you find something you need on yoir travels
The weight will be revealed in a future video - this is part 1 of 3.
Also the pouch doesn't go into my BoB.
It is only to show where some of the items are and why (like the multitool) and that some combo items (like super glue) don't do certain tasks well enough, which is why I have epoxy and woundseal powder (but different sizes) in both my pouch and BoB.
I'm a retired Navy SERE Instructor, and noticed some flaws in your kit. Your means of heating/cooking , why a stove that needs a commercial fuel source? It doesn't matter if it is the gas stove or the Esbit stove, you have to carry the fuel with you, and when it runs out you are done and it is dead weight. Check out the EmberLit stoves, you will find them lighter in weight and much smaller in size. I have to ask, have you used your your kit under adverse conditions. And over redundancy isn't about space, it is about weight. "ounces=pounds and pounds = PAIN" I also didn't see any spare batteries or a means of recharging any rechargeable batteries you may have. Have you actually used that chainsaw gadget? Why do you need a whole set of super fine screwdriver bits? Where is your cooking gear? What about water? Generally speaking, your kit should be based around the rule of 3s (3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food) I'm not trying to dawg you on this, but I would rather you actually survive a situation than curse it as you slowly die.
Hello. While I appreciate your feedback, I have to disagree with what you called 'flaws' and I'll explain point-by-point.
First, a BoB is intended to be used for a maximum of 72 hours; it's not a long-term solution. Between a stove that has 220g of commercial fuel (which burns for over 2 hours and can be shut off and re-lit as desired) and the Esbit tablets, each of which burns for 15 minutes, that will definitely meet the requirements. Once the fuel runs out, both stoves add a combined total of 8 oz / 227g, so IMO this is completely acceptable.
Second, I consider all aspects of redundancy. They not only include space and weight, but functionality in different scenarios (which is why I don't have multiple lighters) and likelihood of use (I explained that no Navy Seal ever said nine is eight and eight is seven.)
Third, I showed some spare Lithium batteries at 20:12 and brought up spare rechargeable batteries at 20:21; I'll show the rechargeable spares in a future video when I discuss the Communication / signaling section.
Fourth, I used the chainsaw gadget once, and it was VERY effective and quick with a thick tree branch. It also looked brand new and was just as sharp after I cleaned it.
Fifth, the precision screwdriver (along with some of the other dedicated tools) are there because I have actually encountered and repaired a generator as well as multiple heaters using fairly few (but actual dedicated) tools. I have both knowledge and experience when it comes to repairing electronics, so the precision screwdriver is for a scenario where a potentially useful but broken or damaged piece of electronic gear might be encountered in a bug out situation.
Sixth, both the cooking and water gear will be covered in the future video under the 'Container' category - this video is part 1, which only covers the first 5 categories.
I regularly discuss engineering solutions and implementations with clients, and they say 'well we've been doing it this way for the last 8 years.' I immediately counter 'well we want to improve things so you are doing it in a better way for the next 8 years.' My point here is that I expanded the 10 Cs and added 4 more because I believe that there is a better way, and that also extends to food. I fully understand (and mention in the video) that people may disagree that I added 'Calories / food' as a survival category, but I also fully understand that if you're on the move, being able to simply survive for 3 days (forget about 3 weeks) while not being able to perform well physically or to focus well mentally because you are starving is not acceptable for me.
I customized this bag based on what works for me. While I am not a professional survivalist, I am a professional system engineer and I also have quite a bit of wilderness and outdoor experience. I explained in the video that every single item has been carefully selected based on the same logic and criteria that I apply in my work on a daily basis.
Again, I appreciate your feedback, and hopefully my explanation above will make the thought process behind my choices a little more clear.
@michael I agree with you and notice the same flaws. Judging by his response to useful comments he seems to know better than trained experts. God bless and thank you for your service. The only good day was yesterday.
The only flaw I see here is that you clearly didn't read my explanation above before leaving your comment :(
In my explanation above, I pointed out that the batteries are explained in the video (with the timestamp,) why I have the precision screwdriver, the fact that cooking and water gear will be covered in a future video, etc.
So having said all that, if you actually read my explanation, what are these 'same flaws' that you claim to notice?
@@cleverengineering2 I am curious, what practical survival experience do you have? Have you taken that kit out for a 72 hour field trip? Have you actually used this kit under adverse conditions? And let me ask you this, when was the last time we had a major disaster that lasted 72 hours or less? After Katrina hit it took FEMA more than 72 hours to get supplies and services to the people of New Orleans and the surrounding area. I've been doing this for over 45 years, and I've learned from people with more experience than me, made mistakes, survived and have been an instructor since 1989. I was trying to give you the benefit of my experience. It is much easier to learn from the mistakes of others than make the mistakes yourself.
Fair question. I have taken the bag out for several field trips and I've used it twice under adverse conditions.
I just posted a new video with part 2 of the BoB - ruclips.net/video/3uK36M9FCdE/видео.html - and while I respect experience, I explained at several points in part 2 that just because there is a traditional way to do things, that doesn't mean it's the only way or even the best way.
I also pointed out items in both parts 1 and 2 (and will point out more in part 3) that I changed or added in the last year because the bag is always evolving, since I'm always looking for a better way.
I regularly explain in presentations to clients that just because something has been done a certain way for the last 8 years doesn't mean that it can't be done in a better way for the next 8 years, and I also explained at the beginning of part 2 that doing things a certain way just because it worked in the past is was a hard lesson learned by Blackberry, Kodak and Radio Shack.
Customization is one of the 5 concepts I used when I created the bag; what works for me may not work for you and I understand that. However, I tried to thoroughly explain WHY I made the choices that I made, and the reason will never be 'well, that's just how it's been done for X number of years.'
While I'm not a professional survivalist or instructor, I am a professional system engineer. I solve problems for a living and I've been told that I'm very good at my job. I've also been an avid and experienced wilderness enthusiast since I was a child.
Between my professional expertise, my non-professional experience, and my problem-solving abilities, I know that the choices I made have worked for me in the past and I am very comfortable that they will continue to work for me in the future.
A lot of stuff you're showing isn't in frame of the camera :/ also you're like super super quiet. I have to turn my volume all the way up just to hear you.
Υou better change your saw. This is not a saw to deal with green branches. As for the chain saw you better leave this at home.
You can have the most expensive BugOut bag in the world, but if you don't carry a comprehensive medical kit, you could die.
You should carry a Trama Kit and a good all-around medical kit.
This is part 1 of the video, which only covers the first 5 of the 14 survival categories I identified. Category 11 (Cut care / first aid) will be covered in a future video.
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only use for this bag is to stay in car there is no food shelter way to filter water no blanket if you had to hike/walk looks too heavy in short you wont last too long
i have 35+ years in the outdoors 10 years military bug out bag weight 20 - 30 lbs
do more research before making another video
You clearly didn't watch the videos (you just looked at the thumbnails) based on how ridiculous your comment is. The bag with everything in it (from all 3 videos combined) weighs a total of 33 lbs. The fact that you just said 35 years experience also proves that you didn't watch the videos because I clearly explained, especially in parts 2 and 3, that someone trying to use number of years of experience to prove that they are right won't get them very far. Do more research (by actually watching the videos instead of looking at the thumbnails) before making another stupid comment!