Like a few people have already mentioned, you can take this shuffle to another level with crafting cheap Writs! These writs cost x3 Chromatic dust and sell to the vendor for 5g. So if 3 dust is selling for less than 5g, feel free to craft these writs and vendor them for even more raw gold!
I found you when I was returning to WoW after years of not playing and I was hoping to learn professions for once. Your videos are super helpful and useful. I look forward to watching your content now after watching videos from your channel! Thank you so much!
I've done this shuffle in previous expansions but learned a couple of new things: you can select the base item (my bracer groups were huge because I always selected the individual item). I didn't even realize you could auto mail every 1 minute (in the past I would equip empty bags craft 80+ wait for that to finish then send group). Much more efficient following your model.
I already know this shuffle for a while but damn your video is really nice. All the Maths you doing and then you also give us a spreadsheet for free which was also quite a bit of work to do. So thank you very much for your hard work! You rock penguin!
been doing this shuffle for a couple of weeks after seeing it. works pretty well if you have some downtime! great for when you're doing something else and not focusing on WoW. Thanks for the vid :)
Love your guides , you explain it all very very well and in perfect detail for people new to the correct ways like me. Sadly I only got into the expansion like 2 months ago and it's pretty much 2000 and late. The vibrant shard and allot of other things on my server have really plummeted in prices drastically. The cost of those bracers is still roughly what you said in the video but the shards on my server are like 5 gold here. So bit over a 5th of the worth of what your getting right there. And sadly this is the case with many other shuffles like the wilder cloth , rousing's unraveling etc. Same deal. So yeah bit bummed finding another one that's busted for me at the moment. Not your fault though , part of the game :) Hope one of these days I find one of your shuffles that still work on my server :) You did remind me the name of the crafting speed flask so thanks for that. I feel the real money for me atm is getting my reputation up higher for the better recipes and get all the resourcefulness and multicraft from my tailoring tree and proc more items for less resources and drastically increase profits that way.
I do not understand why blizz wont allow mass disenchanting, or auto disenchanting. JC can run through an entire stack of 1000 ore and walk away but disenchanters have to click every item.
I've made a copy of the sheet and made the changes acording to my servers' prices. In the end, all shuffles either resulted in losses or in peanuts not worth the addon/macro/afk investment. At least it made me aware ppl pay more for Awakened than Rousing, so there's one shuffle worth dipping a bit here and there. And I also learned a lot along the way. Thanks for the guide!
Thanks for taking the time to watch! The best piece of advice I can give is to always update the sheet every few days/whenever you have time. The littlest of price changes can increase (or decrease) total profits significantly so you never know whenever you may come across a steal! Glad you could take away something positive from the video, Happy goldmaking Gerrion!
Thank you for putting the dog on screen while you talk us through it. ❤ Just started with making gold in DF. Made a ton doing herb and shuffles in Legion, would be nice to meet that profit again. Seems basically the same. Going to try this out this week and see what kind of gold come backs. Thank you.
aww Penguin, love your work, really do - but i was hoping you wouldnt cover this and it stayed hush hush for a while longer........not that its a big secret though considering your wonderful work and spreadsheet from SL i still use ;o) On a personal note, i do mine in batches of about 500 a time, gives consistently 400+ vibrant shards which is always good gold, about 5k-12k profit depending on the market day. Though it is slowly getting more towards 5k as the expansion goes on
At the beginning of a new expansion (this one included) the enchanting shuffle is always an integral part of gold making - or should be. It's generally easy and yields a high profit margin. It's funny that every expansion people either forget or don't know this exists.
Just did 300 about 7 hours after the vid was uploaded, numbers and results are as follows: Wildercloth 0.95g Spool 0.95g Bracers costed 7.6g each Resourcefulness resulted in 1 extra craft, 14 spare spools and 1 spare cloth. 597 Dust at 1.58g 243 Shards at 16.1g Projected profit at 2.5k Leatrix Plus fast loot option does work, making the disenchant phase a bit faster. Whole thing took me about 40 minutes, +25% crafting speed, can be faster in the future. Anecdotal, but everything sold in 5, during those 5 minutes the shards got undercut 9(!) times and I had to repost twice.
hey, thanks for all your hard work with these videos again:) just for anyone stuck on the auto-send mail function, I personally had to shift click the "mail selected groups" for it to auto send while I was crafting. ps kind of a wow noob, what are your head and shoulder tmogs??? they look amazing I've seen them in your past couple videos now
Keep an eye out for blue armor and weapons/trinkets/neck/etc on the ah that is at or below the price of vibrant crystals. those can also be bought and disenchanted usually for a profit;
Good. The 84k clickbait was sad to see lol. But did give some good tips. I didn't know the shift clik for sending in tsm. Is there a similar function for opening mail?
Math and calculations at the end goes over the 84k, you can easily hit that profit if you do this method casually. In terms of mail, you can only constantly open mail until your inventory is full, then you’ll have to restart the opening process again
Watching this video and updating the sheet for my EU server makes me realize how different prices are in our region. Sad times indeed! I get that prices change, but this has been the case for quite a while now.
It’s a combination of region, but also timing. Since this video came out, tons of people have gotten into the market which of course crashed things. People will move on once they get bored or it slides under profit, but it will recover!
With mass shuffles little changes in the market make a big difference. You have to watch the market and buy low, and if the market tanks while you’re working you can hold your shards for a bit until the price goes back up
I have to say, I typically like your videos. I learn new tricks and things to assist in making gold, and the one piece of useful information I found here was the auto sending mail. Didn't realize you could do that. That being said, I do have to say I was disappointed in the misleading title. Typically people put the profits per hour, so reading this I am thinking I can make 80k+ or at least close to that per hour. After watching all 18 minutes of the video only to realize you actually only profit 12k per hour. Honestly anything less than 20k I can just go to my herb/miner. Really thought maybe this was a better way for easy income.
Sorry for misleading, but that is why I purposely didn’t add per hour or “ /hour”. I tend to use total profit in my videos. I think 84k is a very reasonable profit number. At 12k/hr and doing it an hour per day, you are easily making 84k profit per week, and half of that is fully AFK.
I've been your videos and its helped me a lot, great content. Thanks! One question, why 40 points in Draconic Disenchantment and not 30 or? The last two levels dont seem relevant to this shuffle. Thanks again!
Hi. whats the better way to invest tailoring Knowledgepoints. Ressourcefullness for raw mats or inspiring für better Tier?did the Tier affects the Material output?
Next up the video titled "Make 4M+ Profit with ..." and not mention in the title how long it takes to reach that number. Good video and splendid explanations. Thank you for your work.
hi penguin, i followed this guide to the letter today so thanks! is it possible to afk auto-post on the AH using TSM? i was thinking it would be easier to just mass produce/disenchant and then post maybe 100 at a time every few minutes. is it possible to auto-post them or is that against TOS?
Thanks for showing this shuffle, have made some nice gold from it. One thing i noticed is that sometimes auto resend doesnt send bracers randomly and is greyed out like its stuck and then have to restart the auto resend option for it to work again?
Earned my sub, actual, realistic numbers. All these gold guides are like MaKE 2000000000000000 GPH WITh ThiSSs M3Th0d ... and its like 3k an hour by the time you watch it.
First of all, thanks a lot for the spreadsheet, it's very helpful and above all, you've saved a lot of people's time. Secondly, I'm interested in your opinion on Public orders (in my opinion, the lack of a quality requirement is a disadvantage). Other than that, the new crafting system is interesting but poorly described and I'm sure 90% of people not playing the beta made mistakes. And referring to whether you would like knowledge points to be reset - I personally know different opinions on this subject ;)
I personally am against Knowledge Points being reset, it would be way too powerful and destroy a lot of things. Everyone is able to unlock everything, it just takes time, so in the matter of weeks/months we wont even feel our beginner mistakes that we've done the first few weeks of the expansion. In terms of public orders, I think the change they just did on PTR is good - they've reduced the amount of public orders you can do from 20 to 4. This will help spread out public orders to a variety of crafters instead of one person being able to complete a ton in the matter of seconds. I think having quality on public orders is a trap... people would always ask for q4 or q5 and kick a ton of people out of the market, public orders are there for people who just want their item quick without having to worry about finding a crafter, they know they probably wont get the best item, but thats what they give up for convenience sake.
@@Penguinr2gt Personally, I agree that as of today, resetting knowledge points would be a bad idea, but, for example, in the next patch, they could do this, e.g. once a month, etc. I have experience with diablo2 where it was impossible to reset talents at all and for someone who made a mistake it was it's super sad. Here, the situation is saved by the fact that you can develop 100%, but I will give you my example from bs where I went into the production of mats and now I have a very difficult development of the 60+ profession. As of today, hardly anyone decides on the item 385 lvl. Of course, this is not my cry, because I consider this expansion to be the best so far, and I played a lot of tbc and wotlk. In this expansion, flying and professions swept the competition cleanly. Now even collecting rocks is not super boring, it's just boring ;)
Question - can multicraft proc on enchants? Looking at the profession, it doesn't seem like it, but some online guides seem to suggest that is the case.
Does quick hands work for Disenchanting? Would also like to add, with all your left over Chromatic Dust, craft bracer writs. The scrolls sell for 5g a pop to vendor. Happy Flipping
TSM does not seem that handy to me in this case since my enchanter is also my tailor. I have crafted around 2k bracers, so I'd need to return every single one individually, around 150 mails. I have not noticed a "return all" option or smth. similar.
Hi, I mailed thousands of bracers to my alt, but I want to send them back. Do I have to click the "return" button hundreds of times or is there a way to return the whole inbox at once?
Try this addon out - someone commented about it but I haven’t tested it myself. You need to be in default UI to activate it! www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/return-all-mail
doesnt work anymore on blackmoore... since the price is to low for enh. mats. Thank you anyways for the Guide! I really like your videos. They are simple and informative. But the Bug that the items will not be send anymore via TSM is really anoying. Items are shown Grey in the inventory. Is there any solution for this?
On some professions, tailoring for one, when I run out of bag space it automatically mails the item to the crafter. Not sure why or how it's doing that, but I like it.
hi there, i just wanted to ask what the addon is for cast bar to see the time, also i use auto clicker for the tsm destroy, i remember you would get banned but is that still a thing?
Great passive goldfarm. On my server it works out to about 7k an hour which is pretty bad, except when you realize you can do it almost entirely afk while watching tv or something.
hello, first of all thank you really much for the video! I have just one more question, I think it might be against TOS too but I'm not sure, is there also a way to, if you create the Spool of Wilderthread on your own, always reput 1000 of the Tattered Wildercloth without having to do it manually? I tried with TSM but couldnt find a way how to do it.
You can get the addon TradeSkillFuxCapacitor which will help you auto select the new stacks of cloth each time, but Im not sure if you can get it fully automated past a stack... I believe someone has mentioned that using the TSM crafting interface may be able to bypass it, but I havent been able to test it myself - ive only used TSFC.
maybe I just dont get it, but with TSM I cant even create 1 Spool of Wilderthread lol, but TSFC works fine for me, thanks again! :D Is TSM really that outdated atm or am I doing it wrong?
@@Penguinr2gt Weird I have that must be a setting I don't have active. Thanks for the quick response. Edit: nope it was due to the window closing. DeModal fixed that.
This is what i did in early DF when vibrant shards were like ~70g each. Now they cost ~31g on my server, making them is aroung 15-20g (wildercloth is 2.5g, spool is 2.2g) and the 10g/each just not worth the time. Would like to see a JC goldmaking video tho, I invested in air gems on one toon, prospecting in other, and neither of them making anything (making the haste gems cost the same or even more than just buying them from AH) so I gave up fast lmao. Maybe I should go with mining or skinning, i dont even know whats making profit as of today, all I see is air frost farm groups, what is the setup (which prof with which spec) for this stuff?
Same. I did this for a good month or so when DF launched, but on the EU auction house the shard market has completely bottomed out to the point that it realistically isn't worth the time put in now (unless you're AFKing). Sadly it appears that most professions gold making days have finished already for the early DF. Gathering seems to be the way to go for a decent return.
TSM mailing can definitely be bugging sometimes. Make sure you have the item grouped by base item and sort your bags before starting mailing. If that still is not working, try disabling any sort of additional bag/mailing addon you may use. Lastly if that doesn’t work, you can try to group the bracer with item level or specific but you will likely need to group multiple due to all the different stats or different ilvls if you can’t guarantee q5.
Can i Begin with shuffle when i only 20 Points to Draconic Disenchantment? My Plan for the New Char Cloth Farm for Myth Chance and unravel Cloth for Awa Frost etc, and then i see your Video and looks good and i have no cost when i farm Cloth and us it
You technically could but you likely won’t come out profitable and if the shuffle isn’t profitable, you are better off just selling your cloth as is, or using it towards something else like bags
Faster loot its called sry! i aslo found an addon for DE that makes it auto DE . ill check it now and i ll tell you if it works .so we dont have to click and de .....
There is a vendor in Val that lets you buy 10-15 knowledge points per prof. 15 if you have a collecting 10 for crafting Edit: he’s the vendor on the left infront of you at 3:41
Yea! If you have the reputation, definitely buy these notes! It’s a great way to get up to 30(45) extra KPs. I can’t recommend it to everyone tho if they are starting on a brand new toon
there is an addon called "return all mail" that do the job, its not super fast but better then click one by one, you have to use the wow UI tho, it does not work with TSM UI
Do note, the price of Shards has TANKED in the past 24 hours, down to under 14g per from 18-20. Cloth and thread have stayed consistent at 1g per, so if you want to make this worth your while you may want to see what tattered is at and make your own spools to maximize your profit. This shuffle is roughly 64% margin on the 1k batch I just did on 1/13/23 which was about an 8500g profit.
Yea, a lot of people have just entered the market and have attempted this lol, but people will get bored, find new ways to make gold that will distract them, etc. and prices will change constantly. Keep checking back to see how profit is!
How can I get epic crystals from DEing greens (have looted multiple), yet blue items give no epic crystals? I don't understand the reasoning... thoughts?
Each sort of item has their different loot tables and blizz doesn’t want epic crystals to be mass produced. Being able to mass produce an item that could proc crystals would crash the prices so badly
If you are strictly focusing on this shuffle, resourcefulness will allow you to save mats when crafting bracers and that will increase your profit. If you want to try to combine this with another shuffle, you can go into spinning, you’ll craft your own spools, gain some awakened and then can disenchant. The first shuffle on the spreadsheet covers that
Yep, prices will likely fall for a while, just dont give up on it and check back! People will get bored, or side tracked with something else and people will slowly forget about this method lol. Thanks for watching Bakmoi!
I can write a program that will click mouse button every 2-3 second so if I put the cursor on disenchant button I can fully afk the disenchanting. gonna check numbers on my server if it is profitable
I followed your exact instructions to the letter and TSM isn't mailing any bracers. It says 'mailing 133 bracers' but it doesn't it... even if I wait half an hours
@@Penguinr2gt I did and they are. Might be an interaction with other addons like ElvUI or Postal. Try removing ElvUI and Postal, no dice. Added the -ServerName to the recipients name, still nothing. I've looked on the internet and I'm not the only person with this problem. The rest of TSM works perfectly but mass mailing doesn't. Very frustrating to be honest. Oh well, manual mailing it is then.
I have 40 points into draconic disenchanting but I got about half the yield predicted in the spreadsheet, is there anything else that determines this? It was around 500 bracers so not the largest sample size but seems like a large variance
@@Penguinr2gt I did another 200 this morning and got 398 dust and 161 shards which was much closer no idea what happened before but results seem better now
When I try the mailing operation it only send 2 or 3 bracers at a time, anyone know how to fix that? I've cleaned up my bags and made the operation step by step.
Theres a few things you can try 1. double check that your bracer is grouped by base item 2. Disable any bag/mailing addons you may use that could be causing conflicts with TSM 3. Someone had this issue and mentioned that queuing "500" or whatever your craft number is instead of hitting craft all helped them, dont know if itll help you but its worth a shot Let me know if you still have issues
/cast disenchant /use item:193497 You can make a macro to disenchant and not deal with tsm. put it on a button and mash it while watching a video or something
Ran in on a problem with that auto mail sending. It is only sends max of 6 pieces each time so my bag fills up. Tried to override max sending to 50 but then it is sending just 2. You Know how to fix it? Thanks for the guide.
Sadly tsm mailing can be pretty glitchy - have you already made sure that you have the item grouped by base item and did you try sorting your bags before starting to mail - if so, try turning off any sort of bag/mail addons you may use and see if it makes a difference!
My bad. I made just one bracer to make the group. But the others bracers with different stats on it need also to be added in that group. Then it worked. 🫣
@@ronnyslaatbraaten457 I had the same problem, if you select "base item" when you make the group TSM should send them all regardless of their random stats!
Make sure you have your items properly grouped and then sort your bags before starting to mail. If that doesn't work, you can try to group your items thru item level/base item but you will need to likely select multiple to cover all ranks and/or stats combinations.
Try this addon out - someone commented about it but I haven’t tested it myself. You need to be in default UI to activate it! www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/return-all-mail
I really do enjoy the video and break downs. It pains me to see that JC can make gold cap twice over in a single week clicking a button and it would take Tailor/Ench 2.4 years with just this method to reach it once with all this effort.
TSM mailing can definitely be bugging sometimes. Make sure you have the item grouped by base item and sort your bags before starting mailing. If that still is not working, try disabling any sort of additional bag/mailing addon you may use. Lastly if that doesn’t work, you can try to group the bracer with item level or specific but you will likely need to group multiple due to all the different stats or different ilvls if you can’t guarantee q5.
I dont understand your "Profit AH" formula. it uses value*0,95 and then subtracts costs. that implies that AH fees are always 5%. for my server its a flat amount no matter for how much dust and shards sell and for dust its 0,45g (~14% of 3,3g) and 2,25g for shards (20% of 11,24g) for 300 bracers: cost of mats: 2748 fee: 810 revenue: 4780 profit: 1222 given my professions are not maxed it will take a lot of time to craft and diss, meaning 300 bracers would take roughly 30 minutes. thats 2.4k in an hour, given it's selling. if I add the hours I need to invest to set it all up, Im better of buying a shovel for 42 gold and dig up dirt all around the dragon isles. unless fully AFKing for a day and dissing with (dont tell blizzard) rubber-band this is not worth it
When you sell an item on the AH, there’s a 5% AH fee. You are likely referring to deposit cost which is based on the vendor price of the item and the duration of your auction. You gain this deposit back if you sell the item it and you lose it if you cancel the auction or it expires
@@Penguinr2gt I do use the macro you put in here. I just wasn't sure if there was equipment that would make disenchanting faster. Thanks for putting this out there. I don't know if I have ever had this much gold. Even with the cost of shards cut in half. lol
Gotcha! Since disenchanting isnt technically a craft, crafting speed or any specialization points don't actually speed it up. Im glad youve been able to make some gold! keep it up!
well you would be best off making thread through tattered cloth which takes time but while you wait get up and clean something also all these programs will fail, either its a scam they steal your money or best case its false security i mean bot says 900g per item but more sellers means odds of those sales go down and in 4 months still have not sold but be sure to watch this kid on twitch
Like a few people have already mentioned, you can take this shuffle to another level with crafting cheap Writs! These writs cost x3 Chromatic dust and sell to the vendor for 5g. So if 3 dust is selling for less than 5g, feel free to craft these writs and vendor them for even more raw gold!
Thanks for the guide. Is there a tailoring spec that helps with unravelling?
Wrist are plus after the bracers? Or different shuffle?
what Writs i cant seem to find them :/
Spinning is what you want for unraveling
They are the ring writs, cost 3 chromatic dust a piece
I found you when I was returning to WoW after years of not playing and I was hoping to learn professions for once. Your videos are super helpful and useful. I look forward to watching your content now after watching videos from your channel! Thank you so much!
That’s so amazing to hear! I’m glad the videos are helpful and welcome back to WoW! I hope Dragonflight is treating you well!
I just came across this video, and i now have TSM again. You taught me so much with the mailing alone!!! Thanks for this video
Thanks for watching!
Just found you, you're like a breath of fresh air!
Thanks so much Dee!
I've done this shuffle in previous expansions but learned a couple of new things: you can select the base item (my bracer groups were huge because I always selected the individual item). I didn't even realize you could auto mail every 1 minute (in the past I would equip empty bags craft 80+ wait for that to finish then send group). Much more efficient following your model.
Glad I could help you out! Happy shuffling !
I already know this shuffle for a while but damn your video is really nice. All the Maths you doing and then you also give us a spreadsheet for free which was also quite a bit of work to do. So thank you very much for your hard work! You rock penguin!
Thanks so much for watching and all the kind words Golamor!
been doing this shuffle for a couple of weeks after seeing it. works pretty well if you have some downtime! great for when you're doing something else and not focusing on WoW. Thanks for the vid :)
Thank you for watching! Glad it’s been treating you well!
Love your guides , you explain it all very very well and in perfect detail for people new to the correct ways like me. Sadly I only got into the expansion like 2 months ago and it's pretty much 2000 and late. The vibrant shard and allot of other things on my server have really plummeted in prices drastically. The cost of those bracers is still roughly what you said in the video but the shards on my server are like 5 gold here. So bit over a 5th of the worth of what your getting right there. And sadly this is the case with many other shuffles like the wilder cloth , rousing's unraveling etc. Same deal. So yeah bit bummed finding another one that's busted for me at the moment. Not your fault though , part of the game :) Hope one of these days I find one of your shuffles that still work on my server :) You did remind me the name of the crafting speed flask so thanks for that. I feel the real money for me atm is getting my reputation up higher for the better recipes and get all the resourcefulness and multicraft from my tailoring tree and proc more items for less resources and drastically increase profits that way.
I have TSM but I've only used it for AH so far, not really explored it. This is honestly so cool. Thx
I do not understand why blizz wont allow mass disenchanting, or auto disenchanting.
JC can run through an entire stack of 1000 ore and walk away but disenchanters have to click every item.
I've made a copy of the sheet and made the changes acording to my servers' prices. In the end, all shuffles either resulted in losses or in peanuts not worth the addon/macro/afk investment.
At least it made me aware ppl pay more for Awakened than Rousing, so there's one shuffle worth dipping a bit here and there.
And I also learned a lot along the way. Thanks for the guide!
Thanks for taking the time to watch! The best piece of advice I can give is to always update the sheet every few days/whenever you have time. The littlest of price changes can increase (or decrease) total profits significantly so you never know whenever you may come across a steal! Glad you could take away something positive from the video, Happy goldmaking Gerrion!
bruh i love this! i been doing it all week while catching up with stuff on netflix!
That’s awesome!
Thank you for putting the dog on screen while you talk us through it. ❤
Just started with making gold in DF. Made a ton doing herb and shuffles in Legion, would be nice to meet that profit again. Seems basically the same.
Going to try this out this week and see what kind of gold come backs. Thank you.
You got this! Thanks for watching!
I've bien seeing you videos for a very long time and i really love all your videos !
Looooove ur spreadsheet !!! Ohhh !!
Really ty 4 all your effort !
Thanks for watching them !
Love your honesty and being thorough. Man this was nice when prices were high. 20-30k an hour now with 24g shards it hurts lol. Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much for watching WoW Time! And yea! the shuffle was very very good at the start of the expansion
Another great video. Learned something new about that mailing tip. It's a godsend hehe
Hahaha I’m glad!
you got a sub from me way to go love to see great guides
aww Penguin, love your work, really do - but i was hoping you wouldnt cover this and it stayed hush hush for a while longer........not that its a big secret though considering your wonderful work and spreadsheet from SL i still use ;o)
On a personal note, i do mine in batches of about 500 a time, gives consistently 400+ vibrant shards which is always good gold, about 5k-12k profit depending on the market day. Though it is slowly getting more towards 5k as the expansion goes on
Hahha I let you have a month!! Glad you’ve been making great gold with it!
Hey mate I really love your content and was wondering what is the chat addon that u use 4:57 i really like it
At the beginning of a new expansion (this one included) the enchanting shuffle is always an integral part of gold making - or should be. It's generally easy and yields a high profit margin. It's funny that every expansion people either forget or don't know this exists.
There’s always new goldmakers each expansion!
ive been doing this the old fasion way! thanks so much for the tips!
Glad I could help!
Just did 300 about 7 hours after the vid was uploaded, numbers and results are as follows:
Wildercloth 0.95g
Spool 0.95g
Bracers costed 7.6g each
Resourcefulness resulted in 1 extra craft, 14 spare spools and 1 spare cloth.
597 Dust at 1.58g
243 Shards at 16.1g
Projected profit at 2.5k
Leatrix Plus fast loot option does work, making the disenchant phase a bit faster. Whole thing took me about 40 minutes, +25% crafting speed, can be faster in the future.
Anecdotal, but everything sold in 5, during those 5 minutes the shards got undercut 9(!) times and I had to repost twice.
hey, thanks for all your hard work with these videos again:) just for anyone stuck on the auto-send mail function, I personally had to shift click the "mail selected groups" for it to auto send while I was crafting.
ps kind of a wow noob, what are your head and shoulder tmogs??? they look amazing I've seen them in your past couple videos now
It’s the season 14 MoP gladiator set! You can buy it for a handful of marks in Mists.
Nice video. I assume the enchanting materials count in the spreadsheet is based of having thsoe 40 points into Enchanting talents?
Yes, you need your disenchanting trait maxed out to see the avg results
Keep an eye out for blue armor and weapons/trinkets/neck/etc on the ah that is at or below the price of vibrant crystals. those can also be bought and disenchanted usually for a profit;
Good. The 84k clickbait was sad to see lol. But did give some good tips. I didn't know the shift clik for sending in tsm. Is there a similar function for opening mail?
Math and calculations at the end goes over the 84k, you can easily hit that profit if you do this method casually. In terms of mail, you can only constantly open mail until your inventory is full, then you’ll have to restart the opening process again
Watching this video and updating the sheet for my EU server makes me realize how different prices are in our region. Sad times indeed! I get that prices change, but this has been the case for quite a while now.
It’s a combination of region, but also timing. Since this video came out, tons of people have gotten into the market which of course crashed things. People will move on once they get bored or it slides under profit, but it will recover!
I enjoy your videos a lot. I get so excited. Then I go on my realm and the prices are always so off that it's unprofitable. Still very cool though.
Keep checking back! Prices are changing by the minute, so you never know when you can find a good deal. Prices are regional so it’s very volatile.
With mass shuffles little changes in the market make a big difference. You have to watch the market and buy low, and if the market tanks while you’re working you can hold your shards for a bit until the price goes back up
Is there a way to return all mail from a specific sender? Great video, I'm just very new to tsm.
Try this! www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/return-all-mail/ (You need to be in Default Mailbox UI to send the items back)
I have to say, I typically like your videos. I learn new tricks and things to assist in making gold, and the one piece of useful information I found here was the auto sending mail. Didn't realize you could do that. That being said, I do have to say I was disappointed in the misleading title. Typically people put the profits per hour, so reading this I am thinking I can make 80k+ or at least close to that per hour. After watching all 18 minutes of the video only to realize you actually only profit 12k per hour. Honestly anything less than 20k I can just go to my herb/miner. Really thought maybe this was a better way for easy income.
Sorry for misleading, but that is why I purposely didn’t add per hour or “ /hour”. I tend to use total profit in my videos. I think 84k is a very reasonable profit number. At 12k/hr and doing it an hour per day, you are easily making 84k profit per week, and half of that is fully AFK.
I've been your videos and its helped me a lot, great content. Thanks!
One question, why 40 points in Draconic Disenchantment and not 30 or? The last two levels dont seem relevant to this shuffle. Thanks again!
Despite it not saying it specifically upgrades disenchanting, every single point helps, so you want to max it out!
@@Penguinr2gt Good to know, thanks for your answer!!!
Hey! Loved the video, wondering what addon gives you the cast bar with total crafting time?
Its called Quartz!
@@Penguinr2gt Thank you!
Hi.
whats the better way to invest tailoring Knowledgepoints. Ressourcefullness for raw mats or inspiring für better Tier?did the Tier affects the Material output?
I would go resourcefulness for better crafting costs
Next up the video titled "Make 4M+ Profit with ..." and not mention in the title how long it takes to reach that number.
Good video and splendid explanations. Thank you for your work.
hi penguin, i followed this guide to the letter today so thanks!
is it possible to afk auto-post on the AH using TSM? i was thinking it would be easier to just mass produce/disenchant and then post maybe 100 at a time every few minutes. is it possible to auto-post them or is that against TOS?
You cannot post automatically, that would be against TOS
Thanks for showing this shuffle, have made some nice gold from it. One thing i noticed is that sometimes auto resend doesnt send bracers randomly and is greyed out like its stuck and then have to restart the auto resend option for it to work again?
Yes, TSM mailing has some bugs to it - to try and avoid it glitching out, sort your bags before starting the auto sending process
Earned my sub, actual, realistic numbers. All these gold guides are like MaKE 2000000000000000 GPH WITh ThiSSs M3Th0d ... and its like 3k an hour by the time you watch it.
Thanks so much Iskow!
First of all, thanks a lot for the spreadsheet, it's very helpful and above all, you've saved a lot of people's time. Secondly, I'm interested in your opinion on Public orders (in my opinion, the lack of a quality requirement is a disadvantage).
Other than that, the new crafting system is interesting but poorly described and I'm sure 90% of people not playing the beta made mistakes.
And referring to whether you would like knowledge points to be reset - I personally know different opinions on this subject ;)
I personally am against Knowledge Points being reset, it would be way too powerful and destroy a lot of things. Everyone is able to unlock everything, it just takes time, so in the matter of weeks/months we wont even feel our beginner mistakes that we've done the first few weeks of the expansion. In terms of public orders, I think the change they just did on PTR is good - they've reduced the amount of public orders you can do from 20 to 4. This will help spread out public orders to a variety of crafters instead of one person being able to complete a ton in the matter of seconds. I think having quality on public orders is a trap... people would always ask for q4 or q5 and kick a ton of people out of the market, public orders are there for people who just want their item quick without having to worry about finding a crafter, they know they probably wont get the best item, but thats what they give up for convenience sake.
@@Penguinr2gt Personally, I agree that as of today, resetting knowledge points would be a bad idea, but, for example, in the next patch, they could do this, e.g. once a month, etc. I have experience with diablo2 where it was impossible to reset talents at all and for someone who made a mistake it was it's super sad. Here, the situation is saved by the fact that you can develop 100%, but I will give you my example from bs where I went into the production of mats and now I have a very difficult development of the 60+ profession. As of today, hardly anyone decides on the item 385 lvl. Of course, this is not my cry, because I consider this expansion to be the best so far, and I played a lot of tbc and wotlk. In this expansion, flying and professions swept the competition cleanly. Now even collecting rocks is not super boring, it's just boring ;)
Question - can multicraft proc on enchants? Looking at the profession, it doesn't seem like it, but some online guides seem to suggest that is the case.
It cannot, you can only benefit from Inspiration and/or Resourcefulness
@@Penguinr2gt Wow, wasn't expecting such a quick response! Thanks
I appreciate the tips. Subscribed.
Thank you Tdawg!
Just tried this on my server and broke even. So I guess that's better than losing gold. :) I will have to wait for prices to go back up.
Even if not in this case an addon that everyone should use is "Molinari". Simple but very useful. (Disenchanting, Prospecting etc)
Does quick hands work for Disenchanting? Would also like to add, with all your left over Chromatic Dust, craft bracer writs. The scrolls sell for 5g a pop to vendor. Happy Flipping
No, crafting speed doesn’t affect disenchanting since it’s technically not a craft
TSM does not seem that handy to me in this case since my enchanter is also my tailor. I have crafted around 2k bracers, so I'd need to return every single one individually, around 150 mails. I have not noticed a "return all" option or smth. similar.
Hi, I mailed thousands of bracers to my alt, but I want to send them back. Do I have to click the "return" button hundreds of times or is there a way to return the whole inbox at once?
Try this addon out - someone commented about it but I haven’t tested it myself. You need to be in default UI to activate it! www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/return-all-mail
i dont know, i just love watching your videos just because of your angelic voice ... *_*
doesnt work anymore on blackmoore... since the price is to low for enh. mats. Thank you anyways for the Guide! I really like your videos. They are simple and informative.
But the Bug that the items will not be send anymore via TSM is really anoying. Items are shown Grey in the inventory. Is there any solution for this?
On some professions, tailoring for one, when I run out of bag space it automatically mails the item to the crafter. Not sure why or how it's doing that, but I like it.
Really helpful vid.
Thats awesome to hear
hi there, i just wanted to ask what the addon is for cast bar to see the time, also i use auto clicker for the tsm destroy, i remember you would get banned but is that still a thing?
It is called Quartz, and no you cannot use an Autoclicker for anything, if you do you will get banned for botting/exploiting
@@Penguinr2gt dang, well ill stop using it thx for quick reply, and thx ill download addon
Great passive goldfarm. On my server it works out to about 7k an hour which is pretty bad, except when you realize you can do it almost entirely afk while watching tv or something.
Exactly! Thanks for watching B!
hello, first of all thank you really much for the video!
I have just one more question, I think it might be against TOS too but I'm not sure, is there also a way to, if you create the Spool of Wilderthread on your own, always reput 1000 of the Tattered Wildercloth without having to do it manually? I tried with TSM but couldnt find a way how to do it.
You can get the addon TradeSkillFuxCapacitor which will help you auto select the new stacks of cloth each time, but Im not sure if you can get it fully automated past a stack... I believe someone has mentioned that using the TSM crafting interface may be able to bypass it, but I havent been able to test it myself - ive only used TSFC.
@@Penguinr2gt Alright, thank you really much for the answer! :)
maybe I just dont get it, but with TSM I cant even create 1 Spool of Wilderthread lol, but TSFC works fine for me, thanks again! :D Is TSM really that outdated atm or am I doing it wrong?
Curious, what addon are you using to search straight from the crafting screen at the 4:18 mark?
It’s Auctionator!
@@Penguinr2gt Weird I have that must be a setting I don't have active. Thanks for the quick response. Edit: nope it was due to the window closing. DeModal fixed that.
Do you have “Show crafting costs in the crafting view” enabled?
hey penguin can u maybe make a video of tattered wildercloth shuffle into spools of wilderthread with the tailorin spec in spools?
Hey! My video about shuffles (prior to this one) goes over tailoring spinning shuffles!
This is what i did in early DF when vibrant shards were like ~70g each. Now they cost ~31g on my server, making them is aroung 15-20g (wildercloth is 2.5g, spool is 2.2g) and the 10g/each just not worth the time.
Would like to see a JC goldmaking video tho, I invested in air gems on one toon, prospecting in other, and neither of them making anything (making the haste gems cost the same or even more than just buying them from AH) so I gave up fast lmao.
Maybe I should go with mining or skinning, i dont even know whats making profit as of today, all I see is air frost farm groups, what is the setup (which prof with which spec) for this stuff?
Same. I did this for a good month or so when DF launched, but on the EU auction house the shard market has completely bottomed out to the point that it realistically isn't worth the time put in now (unless you're AFKing).
Sadly it appears that most professions gold making days have finished already for the early DF. Gathering seems to be the way to go for a decent return.
not gonna show knowledge points and where you placed them on your specialization? Or did i miss them
Go to 2:13 and I show it again at 10:03
Brilliant!
what addon do you use to let you browse th AH and look at professions at the same time
Demodal and Blizzmove will allow both windows open at the same time. Auctionator is the search button that appears
Is the auto mailing function broken in TSM? cant get it to work, tried with 2 different alts? altso tried shuffling bags
TSM mailing can definitely be bugging sometimes. Make sure you have the item grouped by base item and sort your bags before starting mailing. If that still is not working, try disabling any sort of additional bag/mailing addon you may use. Lastly if that doesn’t work, you can try to group the bracer with item level or specific but you will likely need to group multiple due to all the different stats or different ilvls if you can’t guarantee q5.
Does the tier of item change rates of drop on dusts?
Can i Begin with shuffle when i only 20 Points to Draconic Disenchantment? My Plan for the New Char Cloth Farm for Myth Chance and unravel Cloth for Awa Frost etc, and then i see your Video and looks good and i have no cost when i farm Cloth and us it
You technically could but you likely won’t come out profitable and if the shuffle isn’t profitable, you are better off just selling your cloth as is, or using it towards something else like bags
What add on are you using to show the timing on your crafting?
It’s called Quartz!
there is an aadon called quick loot - i used to use it when i skinning -it makes the lloting kinda faster i dont know if it can be used here tho!!!
Faster loot its called sry! i aslo found an addon for DE that makes it auto DE . ill check it now and i ll tell you if it works .so we dont have to click and de .....
Hello, nice video, witch enchant need to do to not use auction house?
You always have to access the auction house, I have the brutosaur which is a mobile one which is why I can access it wherever
@@Penguinr2gt ty
/cast Disenchant
/use Surveyor's Cloth Bands
Copy Paste for the Disenchant Macro.
I notice when i set up my auto mail, it only sends like 2-3 at a time so I am constantly running out of room. Did I miss a quantity setting?
Make sure you have the items grouped by base item - and sort your bags before mailing… TSM mailing is sadly pretty glitchy
As always...Thanks!
Thank you for watching, as always!
There is a vendor in Val that lets you buy 10-15 knowledge points per prof. 15 if you have a collecting 10 for crafting
Edit: he’s the vendor on the left infront of you at 3:41
Yea! If you have the reputation, definitely buy these notes! It’s a great way to get up to 30(45) extra KPs. I can’t recommend it to everyone tho if they are starting on a brand new toon
is there any way or addon to return all the mails in the mail box? I did like 2,5k bracers and to return them is suffering lol
there is an addon called "return all mail" that do the job, its not super fast but better then click one by one, you have to use the wow UI tho, it does not work with TSM UI
Wich addon you use to have that "Search" button for itens in craft menu?
Auctionator!
@@Penguinr2gt How? Its a config option? Doesn`t appear to me
Do note, the price of Shards has TANKED in the past 24 hours, down to under 14g per from 18-20. Cloth and thread have stayed consistent at 1g per, so if you want to make this worth your while you may want to see what tattered is at and make your own spools to maximize your profit. This shuffle is roughly 64% margin on the 1k batch I just did on 1/13/23 which was about an 8500g profit.
Yea, a lot of people have just entered the market and have attempted this lol, but people will get bored, find new ways to make gold that will distract them, etc. and prices will change constantly. Keep checking back to see how profit is!
How can I get epic crystals from DEing greens (have looted multiple), yet blue items give no epic crystals? I don't understand the reasoning... thoughts?
Each sort of item has their different loot tables and blizz doesn’t want epic crystals to be mass produced. Being able to mass produce an item that could proc crystals would crash the prices so badly
Witch talloring need yo upgrade for more profit?
If you are strictly focusing on this shuffle, resourcefulness will allow you to save mats when crafting bracers and that will increase your profit. If you want to try to combine this with another shuffle, you can go into spinning, you’ll craft your own spools, gain some awakened and then can disenchant. The first shuffle on the spreadsheet covers that
great vid. sadly my region's vibrant shard crashed to 15g
Yep, prices will likely fall for a while, just dont give up on it and check back! People will get bored, or side tracked with something else and people will slowly forget about this method lol. Thanks for watching Bakmoi!
do you have import strings for tsm somewhere?
You can find TSM information in the discord!
I can write a program that will click mouse button every 2-3 second so if I put the cursor on disenchant button I can fully afk the disenchanting. gonna check numbers on my server if it is profitable
That will get you banned, don’t do it! Any sort of non-human click and especially third party softwares is against tos
@@Penguinr2gt if they catch me :) I develop very human like bots. Even google couldn't detect it. but worst case I will open up another account
I followed your exact instructions to the letter and TSM isn't mailing any bracers. It says 'mailing 133 bracers' but it doesn't it... even if I wait half an hours
Sort your bags before mailing and make sure they are grouped via base item
@@Penguinr2gt I did and they are. Might be an interaction with other addons like ElvUI or Postal.
Try removing ElvUI and Postal, no dice. Added the -ServerName to the recipients name, still nothing. I've looked on the internet and I'm not the only person with this problem. The rest of TSM works perfectly but mass mailing doesn't. Very frustrating to be honest. Oh well, manual mailing it is then.
I have 40 points into draconic disenchanting but I got about half the yield predicted in the spreadsheet, is there anything else that determines this? It was around 500 bracers so not the largest sample size but seems like a large variance
As long as you are maxed out in disenchanting you should be getting the same avg results. Have you tested more since commenting?
@@Penguinr2gt I did another 200 this morning and got 398 dust and 161 shards which was much closer no idea what happened before but results seem better now
When I try the mailing operation it only send 2 or 3 bracers at a time, anyone know how to fix that? I've cleaned up my bags and made the operation step by step.
Theres a few things you can try
1. double check that your bracer is grouped by base item
2. Disable any bag/mailing addons you may use that could be causing conflicts with TSM
3. Someone had this issue and mentioned that queuing "500" or whatever your craft number is instead of hitting craft all helped them, dont know if itll help you but its worth a shot
Let me know if you still have issues
/cast disenchant
/use item:193497
You can make a macro to disenchant and not deal with tsm. put it on a button and mash it while watching a video or something
Yep! I showcase this macro in the video, just used the name instead of item id, either works!
Wish my quartz worked and still showed total time like that, but it's been bugged since DF and just goes negative :(
Have to made sure that "Tradeskill Merge" is enabled in your Quartz settings and have you done a fresh install of the addon?
Curious where the timer is from to show how long it takes
It’s an addon called Quartz!
@@Penguinr2gt Thanks! And thanks for the vid. Made a bit of gold just doing this while WFH passively.
whats the addon that tells you the time for the crafts ?
Quartz!
What thing tells you the crafting cost
Auctionator
Ran in on a problem with that auto mail sending. It is only sends max of 6 pieces each time so my bag fills up. Tried to override max sending to 50 but then it is sending just 2. You Know how to fix it? Thanks for the guide.
Sadly tsm mailing can be pretty glitchy - have you already made sure that you have the item grouped by base item and did you try sorting your bags before starting to mail - if so, try turning off any sort of bag/mail addons you may use and see if it makes a difference!
My bad. I made just one bracer to make the group. But the others bracers with different stats on it need also to be added in that group. Then it worked. 🫣
@@ronnyslaatbraaten457 I had the same problem, if you select "base item" when you make the group TSM should send them all regardless of their random stats!
Yep, gotta make sure it’s added via base item and nothing else!
Somehow the auto send operation doesnt send all items, what is going wrong?:p
It's sending now but it constantly stopping at random times. Mostly around 2 or 3 times and then it just stops
Make sure you have your items properly grouped and then sort your bags before starting to mail. If that doesn't work, you can try to group your items thru item level/base item but you will need to likely select multiple to cover all ranks and/or stats combinations.
is there a way to "return all" mails?
Try this addon out - someone commented about it but I haven’t tested it myself. You need to be in default UI to activate it! www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/return-all-mail
I really do enjoy the video and break downs. It pains me to see that JC can make gold cap twice over in a single week clicking a button and it would take Tailor/Ench 2.4 years with just this method to reach it once with all this effort.
Some professions are always better than others :P
how to make money with JC tho ?
its only working for couple minutes than it stops sending mail ?
make sure you added the bracer using Base Item and sort your bags before mailing
@@Penguinr2gt sorting is reloading it yes. But its failing couple minutes later again. Items which about to be sent are becoming whitish
How did you achieve such a nice chat animations?
I use the addon LS: Glass, its a revamped version of the original addon (Glass) for Dragonflight!
vibrant shard went down 40 to 33 since you made the video ahah
too many viewers here :D
Keep checking back, people will likely get bored fast and forget about this method lol
I have been getting a issue with tsm auto send mail sometimes it stop sending anyone else have this problem?
TSM mailing can definitely be bugging sometimes. Make sure you have the item grouped by base item and sort your bags before starting mailing. If that still is not working, try disabling any sort of additional bag/mailing addon you may use. Lastly if that doesn’t work, you can try to group the bracer with item level or specific but you will likely need to group multiple due to all the different stats or different ilvls if you can’t guarantee q5.
I dont understand your "Profit AH" formula. it uses value*0,95 and then subtracts costs. that implies that AH fees are always 5%. for my server its a flat amount no matter for how much dust and shards sell and for dust its 0,45g (~14% of 3,3g) and 2,25g for shards (20% of 11,24g)
for 300 bracers:
cost of mats: 2748
fee: 810
revenue: 4780
profit: 1222
given my professions are not maxed it will take a lot of time to craft and diss, meaning 300 bracers would take roughly 30 minutes. thats 2.4k in an hour, given it's selling. if I add the hours I need to invest to set it all up, Im better of buying a shovel for 42 gold and dig up dirt all around the dragon isles.
unless fully AFKing for a day and dissing with (dont tell blizzard) rubber-band this is not worth it
When you sell an item on the AH, there’s a 5% AH fee. You are likely referring to deposit cost which is based on the vendor price of the item and the duration of your auction. You gain this deposit back if you sell the item it and you lose it if you cancel the auction or it expires
@@Penguinr2gt oohhh I'm so dumb. thanks for explaining.
Is there a way to speed up disenchanting?
In addition to using a macro (TOS friendly macro), no
@@Penguinr2gt I do use the macro you put in here. I just wasn't sure if there was equipment that would make disenchanting faster. Thanks for putting this out there. I don't know if I have ever had this much gold. Even with the cost of shards cut in half. lol
Gotcha! Since disenchanting isnt technically a craft, crafting speed or any specialization points don't actually speed it up. Im glad youve been able to make some gold! keep it up!
This is the first time in my 33 years that i see a female girl playing a dude character.
I usually do this when tailoring shuffle is profitable since you only have to buy wildercloth
A great way to combine both shuffles!
well you would be best off making thread through tattered cloth which takes time but while you wait get up and clean something also all these programs will fail, either its a scam they steal your money or best case its false security i mean bot says 900g per item but more sellers means odds of those sales go down and in 4 months still have not sold but be sure to watch this kid on twitch
This is what I was actually wondering, if I can just do this shit
for sure
Woot woot!
Woot!
Nice