What an absolute fantastic example of a strong old tractor scratching out some hard pan clay by being tough and patient very very excellent operator experience, thank you Sir
The genius of RG LeTourneau is something to behold! There’s one of these scrapers sitting in a field up the highway from us. I always thought it would be cool to get it and use it as yard art and a huge planter on our property. I’d hate to see it go to a scrap yard.
Hi John, my dad did a lot of land leveling out of Paisley back in the early "60's". I have a news paper article with him and his operator moving 150,000yds material with 2 "cat-n-cans" at that time. He had a 2U 8 and a3T 7. I used to ride between the tool box and seat on some old sleeping bags. My dad worked out of Vale OR at the time. His name was Wilbur Van Winkle...nick named Rip of course. I remember eating warm spam sandwiches and drinking warm water...didn't have a way to keep food very cool.
fantastic Ole iron pard love your vids of the Ole school stuff!! perfect for me as I learned on these Ole girls from my grandfather may he R.I.P Forever!
That's a mighty small scraper for a D9G. we built one out of a 630 B scraper and it's just right for a D9. We pull Cat 463s with D8s and they are bigger than your Letourneau I am sure of it.
pulled one of these with D7 3T ,building silage pits. No stinken turbo,had to be careful of the tracks trying to walk off the sprockets, the rails ,rollers, idlers were all worn down and the mechanical slack adjusters were limited out, no stinking hydraulic adjusters. Hand crank starting motor, if you didn't crack your wrist just right when cranking it was Big blister time .
HA! i have watched videos now several times over the last 5 yrs. just love them. guess, because i have had the honor of running the same type yrs ago. can or would u please makke a video of what these ponds look like now. i think most everyone would like to see, what they look like, with water in them. thanks.
Ben 1337 one cable moved the can up & down, the other through linkage opened the door 1st, then if you kept winding cable on the drum ,the bottom would be pulled back and tbe rear wall would move forward to unload. You could leave the wall forward to just scrape and move material like a box scraper. If you left the can full of material and the door down and closed, you could lower the can to the ground and use the door to take the crown off a road, it would be spreading material out across the path almost like a blade.
Ben 1337 or r u asking how the winch itself works ? lets see if i can figure. The main clutch gives power to the rear pto , if you have a logging winch ,you have 2 levers on winch, a brake lever and a forward ,neutral and reverse, 3 notched position lever, you give power to winch with main clutch. To put power to tracks, winch needs to be in neutral with winch brake locked on. With a twin (duel) spool winch, it has 2 levers, push it away and its in free spool, (reverse ) if in neutral, winch clutch is disengaged and brake applied, when pulled toward you it disengages brake and engages clutch to move power from pto into winch. With this type of winch ,you can easily move unit forward and operate winch at same time. This is with a hand main clutch (Johnson Bar ) . Dont know how it works with a hydrostatic machine.
Then front winch gives a 3rd cable, if its routed to the rear. The front cable unit is driven off the front of the engine crankshaft without a pto clutch ,the front cable unit is operated like the rears and getting the clutch/brake adjustment right is very important. Don't forget that the main clutch has a clutchbrake only to slow the gears down to change gears not to stop the movement of the machine !!
Google search RG LeTourneau. He was the godfather of a lot of heavy construction equipment long before the invention of hydraulics. It’s a fascinating story. His invention of the cable clutch mechanism made all this possible, including the original bulldozer blades.
I've ran D6 & can, D7 & can, both cable units & carcos, & d8 & hyd scrapers, you could do a great job finishing as well as mucking out soft areas, it's a forgotten art, everything is loaded out with hoes & 6x6 trucks these days spread with dozers & packed with self propelled vibratory packers. No challenge left.
I believe the tractor is a Caterpillar D9 a serial number prefix 49A, a direct drive machine. On the right rear side of the engine is an oil bath air cleaner. It cleaned the air for a large fan which was blowing air thru the dry steering clutch/brake compartments, to cool the clutches and brakes.
Edward beday it Could be. I thought it was an early D9G. Those vertical air cleaners like that look like oil baths but they're not. The low Horse D8Hs had the same style of air cleaner but they are dry. I've owned lots of D9s but never one this old so I am not sure about that on those. It's too bad they didn't build a direct drive D9G. I would have owned one for sure if they did. We use direct drive D8hs and D8Ks on scrapers and they save 30% fuel over their power shift counterparts.
Rocken Roller, we have 4 of them. They are the 76V series. They are most commonly found in California as agricultural tractors but the odd one was bought by a contractor.
One thing you MUST put on your Cat is a rear screen. Those sheaves can break off the front of the scraper and hit you in the head. I have had that happen to me 14 years ago and I wouldn't be writing this comment today had I not had a rear screen.
Ty Frank Amen on that one bro! I'm glad I had the screen on my D8H and Letourneo pan. I'd say it's a MUST !!! Very dangerous without it. I once had a sheave break off the rear cable unit. It's about a 15 lb chunk of iron and it flew like a rocket over the top of scraper and landed another 75' or so aft of the push block! Sure glad it didn't hit anyone!
Looking at the fairly modern service truck maybe not so long ago. Some of the big stations in outback Australia are still using gear like this clearing dams.Does the job ,owes you nothing.
Great vid!! Love the old Caterpillar machines you have!! The older machines have more character and personality to me (and I definitely not an older timer). The lights in the front of the dozer remind me of little bug eyes on a huge monster. That material your digging seems pretty hard! Could you do a push pull set-up with that scraper? If so, why arent you? Just curious. Dont have to or just dont feel like it? A push pull vid would be cool with one of the D9's pushing!
with that little scraper you don't need a push Cat. He's babying it because that D9 capable of ripping the gooseneck right off that little Letourneau scraper.
ROBERTO SILVA LAMECK, LINDO ! CATERPILLAR SEMPRE SURPREENDENDO, MÁQUINAS ANTIGAS EM OPERAÇÃO. SOU ORGULHOSO DE TRABALHAR NESSE RAMO. SOU MECÂNICO CAT, COM MUITO ORGULHO.
jd403020, I've owned no less than 14 Cat 80, 463s and 90 cable scrapers. you can find them but it's hard. Many were ruined with hydraulics. We only have 3 cable scrapers left. They are all big neck Cat 463s. When we build a hydraulic scraper we take a motor scraper from scrap and convert them into a pull scraper. They work better than cable scrapers converted to hydraulic. Many outfits who convert them into hydraulic have tractor hydraulics in mind and the cylinders and hoses are too small to work well with the Cat hydraulics.
That is one ugly mother of a scoop, should have been scrap shortly after it was made! Cat scoops were way better looking and way more user friendly as were Bertley scoops. Onion's also made scoops that worked well, they were also ugly but not as ugly as this piece of rubbish!
What an absolute fantastic example of a strong old tractor scratching out some hard pan clay by being tough and patient very very excellent operator experience, thank you Sir
The genius of RG LeTourneau is something to behold! There’s one of these scrapers sitting in a field up the highway from us. I always thought it would be cool to get it and use it as yard art and a huge planter on our property. I’d hate to see it go to a scrap yard.
Great to see someone working and making a living without new paint fever.
I loved operating these same old equip. Late 60's Out in the desert mountains of Oregon. Nearest town was Burns.
Hi John, my dad did a lot of land leveling out of Paisley back in the early "60's". I have a news paper article with him and his operator moving 150,000yds material with 2 "cat-n-cans" at that time. He had a 2U 8 and a3T 7. I used to ride between the tool box and seat on some old sleeping bags. My dad worked out of Vale OR at the time. His name was Wilbur Van Winkle...nick named Rip of course. I remember eating warm spam sandwiches and drinking warm water...didn't have a way to keep food very cool.
fantastic Ole iron pard love your vids of the Ole school stuff!! perfect for me as I learned on these Ole girls from my grandfather may he R.I.P Forever!
After running all the newest Cat Dozers up to D9T and D10, I want to retire and run machines like this, like back when I was a kid!!😄😄
Operating like that is very wise for that equipment in that material!! Good job!
I remember crews building roads with this type of equipment.
That's a mighty small scraper for a D9G. we built one out of a 630 B scraper and it's just right for a D9. We pull Cat 463s with D8s and they are bigger than your Letourneau I am sure of it.
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@TamiyaRunner The hole is there to capture falling rain and intercept flowing water.
pulled one of these with D7 3T ,building silage pits. No stinken turbo,had to be careful of the tracks trying to walk off the sprockets, the rails ,rollers, idlers were all worn down and the mechanical slack adjusters were limited out, no stinking hydraulic adjusters. Hand crank starting motor, if you didn't crack your wrist just right when cranking it was Big blister time .
HA! i have watched videos now several times over the last 5 yrs. just love them. guess, because i have had the honor of running the same type yrs ago. can or would u please makke a video of what these ponds look like now. i think most everyone would like to see, what they look like, with water in them. thanks.
good job boss.. those old cats where what paid the bills for us back in the day: If had a blade I finish the bottom off with it. dress everything up.
Does anyone know how the winches used to operate the cables on the scraper work?
I love the older generation equipment.
Ben 1337
one cable moved the can up & down, the other through linkage opened the door 1st, then if you kept winding cable on the drum ,the bottom would be pulled back and tbe rear wall would move forward to unload. You could leave the wall forward to just scrape and move material like a box scraper. If you left the can full of material and the door down and closed, you could lower the can to the ground and use the door to take the crown off a road, it would be spreading material out across the path almost like a blade.
Ben 1337
or r u asking how the winch itself works ? lets see if i can figure. The main clutch gives power to the rear pto , if you have a logging winch ,you have 2 levers on winch, a brake lever and a forward ,neutral and reverse, 3 notched position lever, you give power to winch with main clutch. To put power to tracks, winch needs to be in neutral with winch brake locked on. With a twin (duel) spool winch, it has 2 levers, push it away and its in free spool, (reverse ) if in neutral, winch clutch is disengaged and brake applied, when pulled toward you it disengages brake and engages clutch to move power from pto into winch. With this type of winch ,you can easily move unit forward and operate winch at same time. This is with a hand main clutch (Johnson Bar ) . Dont know how it works with a hydrostatic machine.
Then front winch gives a 3rd cable, if its routed to the rear. The front cable unit is driven off the front of the engine crankshaft without a pto clutch ,the front cable unit is operated like the rears and getting the clutch/brake adjustment right is very important. Don't forget that the main clutch has a clutchbrake only to slow the gears down to change gears not to stop the movement of the machine !!
Google search RG LeTourneau. He was the godfather of a lot of heavy construction equipment long before the invention of hydraulics. It’s a fascinating story. His invention of the cable clutch mechanism made all this possible, including the original bulldozer blades.
thats some sweet equipment man
Whats this hole for?
It's going to be there forever and a day doing that job
I've ran D6 & can, D7 & can, both cable units & carcos, & d8 & hyd scrapers, you could do a great job finishing as well as mucking out soft areas, it's a forgotten art, everything is loaded out with hoes & 6x6 trucks these days spread with dozers & packed with self propelled vibratory packers. No challenge left.
I believe the tractor is a Caterpillar D9 a serial number prefix 49A, a direct drive machine. On the right rear side of the engine is an oil bath air cleaner. It cleaned the air for a large fan which was blowing air thru the dry steering clutch/brake compartments, to cool the clutches and brakes.
Edward beday it Could be. I thought it was an early D9G. Those vertical air cleaners like that look like oil baths but they're not. The low Horse D8Hs had the same style of air cleaner but they are dry. I've owned lots of D9s but never one this old so I am not sure about that on those. It's too bad they didn't build a direct drive D9G. I would have owned one for sure if they did. We use direct drive D8hs and D8Ks on scrapers and they save 30% fuel over their power shift counterparts.
Ty Frank didn't know they made direct drives in the 8K's!
Rocken Roller, we have 4 of them. They are the 76V series. They are most commonly found in California as agricultural tractors but the odd one was bought by a contractor.
One thing you MUST put on your Cat is a rear screen. Those sheaves can break off the front of the scraper and hit you in the head. I have had that happen to me 14 years ago and I wouldn't be writing this comment today had I not had a rear screen.
Ty Frank Amen on that one bro!
I'm glad I had the screen on my D8H and Letourneo pan. I'd say it's a MUST !!! Very dangerous without it. I once had a sheave break off the rear cable unit. It's about a 15 lb chunk of iron and it flew like a rocket over the top of scraper and landed another 75' or so aft of the push block! Sure glad it didn't hit anyone!
And yes. Thanks for the video! Great operator! Not slipping the tracks excessively and saving a ton of fuel by keeping RPM's under control.
LeTourneau scraper, correct?
Looking at the fairly modern service truck maybe not so long ago. Some of the big stations in outback Australia are still using gear like this clearing dams.Does the job ,owes you nothing.
Nice save from the scrap yard. Curtis Wright?
Your doin a nice job. Perfect pond
Good clip - do you have any video of the scraper unloading? Thanks.
Great vid!! Love the old Caterpillar machines you have!! The older machines have more character and personality to me (and I definitely not an older timer). The lights in the front of the dozer remind me of little bug eyes on a huge monster.
That material your digging seems pretty hard! Could you do a push pull set-up with that scraper? If so, why arent you? Just curious. Dont have to or just dont feel like it?
A push pull vid would be cool with one of the D9's pushing!
Think!!! You can't push a pan with a drawbar without cocking it unless you pushed it lightly then you lose any benefit of another dozer
really old equipment there, nice to see .
why weren't you using a push cat also ? it should have went a lot faster
with that little scraper you don't need a push Cat. He's babying it because that D9 capable of ripping the gooseneck right off that little Letourneau scraper.
ROBERTO SILVA LAMECK, LINDO ! CATERPILLAR SEMPRE SURPREENDENDO, MÁQUINAS ANTIGAS EM OPERAÇÃO. SOU ORGULHOSO DE TRABALHAR NESSE RAMO. SOU MECÂNICO CAT, COM MUITO ORGULHO.
awesome
eu ja trabalhei com um lecoleco deste D8H
no unloading video
Hunting water lol that scraper come over on the ark lol slow but sure no computer or laser problems. I wish I had a smaller one for my d7 g
Nice 19a
DIESEL PAWER , NICE .
Must be working by the hour..... going that slow!
Huge D9 pulling a 12 yard scraper pan. Small scraper for this dozer. Should be pulling a 20 yd pan.
Who really gives a fuck? Can you find a 20 yard cable pan around the corner?
tdshaker, I pull 26 yard scrapers with D8s and they pull them well. A Cat 491 scraper is designed for a D-9 and they are 34 yards heaped.
jd403020, I've owned no less than 14 Cat 80, 463s and 90 cable scrapers. you can find them but it's hard. Many were ruined with hydraulics. We only have 3 cable scrapers left. They are all big neck Cat 463s. When we build a hydraulic scraper we take a motor scraper from scrap and convert them into a pull scraper. They work better than cable scrapers converted to hydraulic. Many outfits who convert them into hydraulic have tractor hydraulics in mind and the cylinders and hoses are too small to work well with the Cat hydraulics.
And if you Cant make it TALK , you ain't sh#t !
That is one ugly mother of a scoop, should have been scrap shortly after it was made! Cat scoops were way better looking and way more user friendly as were Bertley scoops. Onion's also made scoops that worked well, they were also ugly but not as ugly as this piece of rubbish!
LEGAL..............
These dumb advertisements before the videos are ANNOYING!!!