Documentary-style account of a nuclear holocaust and its effect on the working class city of Sheffield, England, and the eventual long-term effects of nuclear war on civilization.
How has this been on here 8 years when ive searched for it and never found a full version like this. I really forgot how harrowing this was. It's really got into my head, I cant sleep now.
It has just been shown again on the BBC to mark the 40th anniversary. And is now on BBC iPlayer. So maybe the BBC have told RUclips they can unblock it.
@craiggilchrist4223 I know, I was wondering the same thing. I saw it on BBC4 last October but it was just after the 40th anniversary of it been first shown. They showed the American version as in the version they showed on PBS back in 1985. I was slightly annoyed they didn't show the original BBC version from 1984. It's only slightly different with certain music in parts changed. I don't know why they had to change it ever so slightly for American/PBS audiences.
@@AlexMitchell-i1g even so the DVD is still worth getting It has two commentaries and loads of extras interviews. Some high ras photos taken while filming etc etc
@patdbean that sounds worth getting yes. I was working at Sheffield Uni until recently where they have the Barry Hines archives. I booked an appointment to go see it as there are apparently photos of the filming and actors and original transcripts and notes. Unfortunately I didn't make it that day as something else came up and I left the university a week later. I would have really liked to have seen that
Watched this aged 9 or 10 on a small white B&W TV with a coat hanger through lots of white noise and static in my bedroom. Terrified me, grew up sh!tt!ng myself through the remaining years of the cold war. Just watched it again and it's lost nothing. Bleak and tragic.
Chapters :- 0:06 spider intro 0:56 saturday march 5th ruth and jummy in car. 3:45 pregnant 5:01 tell mum and dad 7:29 us may send troops to iran. 8:18 families meet. 10:27 ruth and jimmy look at new flat 11:50 us sub sunk 12:44 uk war plans. 15:38 first signs of panic buying 19:00 jimmy and bob in pub, russia move nuclear war heads into iran. 'Go out with a bang" 23:05 first street protests. 25:39 nuclear exchange in iran. 27:28 us and russian navies begin fighting. More panic buying. 28:38 riots 29:43 some people try to abandon cities for the "safty" of the country side. 32:55 hospitals 38:15 bunker under sheffield town hall opened and maned. 39:09 protect and survive starts being broadcast. 41:07 last milk delivery 42:05 ruth's family start moving supplies to basement. 44:04 kemps build shelter 44:58 attack warning red. 46:15 sirens sound. 46:47 emp knocks out all mains power 47:17 first strike on nato targets. 49:59 main strike on viaduct near sheffield 54:03 ground burst at rail junction. 55:55 first fall out 57:55 kemps emerge from shelter to witness devastation. 58:56 800 to 1000 rads where clive lives 1:06:01 ruth leaves basement, and walks a cross city to jimmy's house. 1:10:08 nuclear winter sets in. 1:11:40 ruth finds mrs kemp dead in shelter 1:12:02 troops defend food store from looters . 1:13:32 hospital 1:19:15 looters leave ruth's house 1:20:30 able-bodied to report for reconstruction work. 1:27:25 ruth is relocated to buxton. 1:29:02 ruth meets bob at feeding centre, and they eat dead sheep. 1:32:35 first harvest 1:34:45 birth 1:36:57 christmas and first winter 1:41:05 ten years on . Ruth and her daughter 1:41:39 ruth's death 1:42:55 words and pictures 1:45:08 13 years after 1:45:26 gaz and spike 1:46:31 rape 1:49:08 jane gives birth
Typing this at the point of one of the most horrific scenes, which is where Ruth gives birth to her baby, without help or pain relief, and then breaks down. There is not a moment of joy, just devastation that she has brought a life into that world.
@geoffwright3692 I agree but also for me one of the most harrowing scenes was the utter horror and helplessness in the hospital as people pour in and they can't cope but also that scene where Ruth walks around the ruins of Sheffield and she sees that woman rocking her baby. The baby is just a charred remains. That was really harrowing scene. The look in her eyes too. That actress/extra really played that minor role well, the haunted, disturbed look in her eyes.
I have tried to watch this many times on RUclips but was only ever able to find short clips.,it was good to see it in full and I remember watching it way back in the 80s . I’m not sure if it’s my imagination but I seem to recall that this seemed pretty close to actually happening. (Scary) I’m from Sheffield and the fashion. Transport and even s y t buses.,along with the egg box town hall offices seem like it was another world but quite normal back then.,Sheffield town centre was so vibrant back then and I remember it like it was yesterday.. I now live in Norfolk but visit Sheffield regularly., the last time I was in Sheffield.(November 2024)barkers pool and fargate looked like a bomb site . Excellent film .
I watched this when I was 6, yes 6! In 1984. No I didn’t have a bad upbringing, I can only imagine I sneaked downstairs to watch while my parents thought I was in bed I can’t remember. But oh boy I had a terror of Sheffield for years.Other than that I had a great childhood 😂
Just as grim as I remember in 1984 when in my mid teens and living not too far away at the time. All very well done, aside from after all the make up effects, the final actresses teeth being brilliant white (you could also see the fillings she would never have got), oh and they certainly don't make carrier bags like they used to lol Don't recall a Kwik Save bag lasting a week never mind a decade after a nuclear war. Obviously that's as much humour as you can spin. I don't recall anyone at school being particularly freaked by it, just good playground material for how gross it was. A few months later Frankie Goes to Hollywood sampled the air attack warning for Two Tribes, with longer extracts in the 12" versions.
The first short clip in the supermarket when the items were being scanned took me back when I saw the "half pence" being displayed on the till. Thinking about it,are the 5p's were using now smaller than them? It's been so long since I seen one.
I remembered this movie from years ago. As horrific as it is. This needs to be part of the Schools Curriculum. To educate the absolute horrors of a Nuclear War. Ronald Reagan watched a similar movie in America called The Day After. He was absolutely in shock and decided to try and change things with Russia.Which was the beginning of Tearing down the walls. Now we are back where we were. Nobody will win from this.
@ well it needs a remake. With all that’s happened in the 🌎 It’s really more close to home more than ever sadly. It’s this generation that I am so worried about.
I was a teenager from Doncaster (featured) at the time, and I can tell you now, that if you weren't yet born in the 80s and believe it was all lively with funny hairdos and cheesy pop music and the rest, that yes, it had those things, but most of the decade was like this, even without the threat of nuclear war. It was seriously grim, especially for the working class. The music, whether you like the serious kind in the early 80s, compared to the seriously cheesy kind by the likes of Wham! etc.,to the production-line pop from the likes of Stock, Aitken and Waterman, or rock (Def Leppard 😴), was a lot better than anything since. Apart from that, I must say that there is some great acting in this, mostly by the actors we've never heard of.
Even today this film is still really dark and makes one think. The fact that it was the BBC who did this back in 1984 just shows what the BBC could do back in mid 80's! I dare say that the younger generation might find this film a little too dark! But I will say this for what it is worth, This is still a damn good film that was done really well!
1:24:52 - The sound of all those flies in the basement where Ruth's parents were bludgeoned to death by the looters, just for a packet of prawn cocktail crisps.
That scene after the looters get caught and the soldiers grab the bag "there's a packet of crisps" "what flavour?" "prawn cocktail".. "aye they f**king would be, I hate those"
99 red balloons ,, remember? This film is extremely impactful, brilliantly directed and filmed with believable acting and special effects. The message sent is beyond reproach, events as these should never, ever occur within sane societies. I read some comments and shaking my head,,, some speak of propaganda and I ask, isn't our current time the overall leader of propaganda thrown at us from all directions? Look farther into things than the produced narratives by some for the many to ingest?
@@T-bz1ib I would feel as disturbed if this was set in Russia, let alone if it was set in my hometown. Nuclear war should be alternate history forever.
I was 26 when Barry Hines (yes he did write Kestrel for A Knave or KES and yes we all read it in School) Hines had also been an English teacher in a Secondary Modern Even then he was active in CND The Government had him down as a 'Left Wing Pinko' likely along with Glenda Jackson and what was the many in the old Labour Party (before Blair and of course Sir Mid Starver) Bear in mind weapons have got even bigger since this was made. Not only that but since the break up of the old Soviet Union this stuff has become harder to monitor and control The clearest message in Threads is that once a state, a group of people, a sovereign power start launching these weapons an exchange inevitably will happen that nobody can ' turn off' Logically speaking now with " Bunker busting nukes" nobody of importance or high enough up will be left to turn this stuff off. The very first objective of either side will be to wipe out central command and control systems. The other totally clear message is when your rulers, your government choose a Nuclear response you are powerless. You can do nothing . If you try and stop them maybe at first they will lock you up but pretty soon they will be shooting to kill. Then you are totally powerless.
@frankadam1800 I know mate, I was being flippant. I was the same, for years this cast a dark shadow of my 80s childhood. I still have dreams about a nuclear bomb going off.
@HHM706 I was 11 mate and yeah I know exactly what you mean. I didn't think we would ever get out of the 80s, not intact anyways. I thought I would be dead well before the 80s were over.
This is the single most scariest film I have ever seen in my life, and you know what, it could very much happen today in this day and age now the way that Russia is... Very very likely as well...
According to all western diplomats I am aware of including former ambassadors to Russia, I am far more worried about the actions of America than I ever would be the reactions of Russia accordingly.
@ Well, potentially, but not because of what they have done that is for sure as the rest of the world outside the west, where 90% of the planets population lives, see them as defending against aggression and belligerence, not the instigators of it.
This was always a family favourite at Christmas, I remember my grandmother would always comment that the women who peed herself should have shown more self control 🤍
A very prescient movie. It doesn't seem far-fetched now does it? What with what is going on in our world currently. Saw this on its debut on the Beeb. They won't be showing it anytime soon as there's no PDFiles in it!
This film should be shown to all world leaders who have nuclear weapons! Especially the superpowers! America & Russia, then hopefully they would think twice about ever using these weapons of mass destruction!! Nobody wins in a Nuclear war!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!
The first 3/4 of this drama are superb. The ending is completely flawed. Humans are fundamentally resilient and innovative. If we weren't, our ancestors would have failed and we would not exist. If post-nuclear holocaust conditions on Earth supported human life, leadership would emerge and a core of survivors would build a functioning society. They wouldn't be the dulled and apathetic subhumans shown in Threads.
Would have been interesting to see how things panned out worldwide in terms of where else was targeted. I would guess a 3,000 MT exchange would imply the USA and USSR getting around 1,000 MT each and the rest falling on Europe and China....
@@jimbotron70 Unfortunately the fallout would effect the whole world. Oh happy days ! Also no civil defence no shelters. Although going on Covid the idiots wouldn't loot food, just toilet paper. Makes you think.
What a f’ing horrible film! Probably extremely accurate too which is the scariest part - and this was pre-internet, pre-social media - imagine how even more useless the masses would be to deal with this kind of existence?
Every politician should be forced to watch this film. I bought the german version a few years ago but the syncronisation isn´t good. So the original is far more intense!
Part 1. What I am about to state are matters of history, not from the Kremlin but from U.S. and UK diplomats, ambassadors, former prime ministers, economists, and the record of western journalists and the UN over these years. And it is everything you are not told in order to get you to say and think as you just did along with most other people in the west. Up to you if you wish to read it all, you can verify it all via Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Professor John Mearsheimer, Pulitzer prize winning Journalist Chris Hedges, Pulitzer prize winning Journalist Seymour Hersh, Colonel Larry Wilkerson former aid to Colin Powell, former UK ambassador Craig Murray, Geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar, to name but a few. Now, as to your comment, Russian leaders did watch this you see back in 1984, at least they watched the American version of it called the day after, they watched it with the US leaders of the time together at the White house. Reagan and Gorbachev. And from that they were both so horrified they both agreed this must Never be allowed to come to pass and started working on nuclear arms controls together which is how we got nuclear agreements that removed intermediate nukes from Europe keeping it a nuke free zone and scaled down weapons stockpiles from tens of thousands of nukes on each side to a few thousand per side. Enough to ensure mutually assured destruction. M.A.D. but not enough to directly cause tensions by them being spread all over the place. This led to a greater sense of security for all and when it came time for German reunification the soviets as they were at the time agreed to allow a nation that murdered over 20 million soviets during ww2 to reunify, on the condition and promise by western leaders as attested to by many of them still living, including John Major, that NATO would not expand beyond eastern Germany. Then after the end of the Soviet Union, Clinton came to power and against the wishes of his own defence secretary who almost resigned over the matter, started expanding NATO into the eastern former soviet nations breaking all prior promises. The Russians under Yeltsin at the time protested loudly about this, asking why there was any need for this when Russia was not a threat and wanted to be a partner of the west whom it had been supplying cheap energy to for decades, but they did not react. NATO continued expanding for profits of capitalism. Then George Bush Jnr came to power, and unilaterally ripped up the anti ballistic missile treaty between the USA and Russia so as to allow the selling of multi billion dollar anti ballistic missile systems to the now 5 times expanded NATO into those former soviet states. The Russians now under Putin protested loudly, once again they said they were not communists anymore, they wanted to be partners of the west, they even asked to join NATO first under Clinton and under Bush Jnr, they were told to go pound sand as that would destroy any reason for NATO to exist and keep expanding for profits at any externalised cost to peace, security, and lives. The U.S began stationing those anti ballistic missile systems from 2008 onwards, telling the Russians a bullcr*p tale that it was to defend against Iran... Still the Russians did not react immediately, though Putin did give an open talk to all world journalists in 2008 on these matters where he pointed out that these systems were compromising the aspect of mutually assured destruction and so would necessitate the development of missiles capable of striking those ABM systems should Russia ever have to counter attack with nuclear weapons. Note the word counter attack as they have a no first strike policy where as America never has had such a policy. Then on his way out of office George Bush Jnr forced the announcement of what would in time be the 6th expansion of NATO in that Ukraine and Georgia would be brought into NATO again all for profits, at the cost of peace and security. The heads of NATO and the Ukrainian and Georgian peoples at the time stated openly they had no desire to join NATO but it was pushed upon them that this would happen down the road and the heads of NATO thought this was a stupid thing to push for that would inevitably lead to tensions and potential conflict. As a result in 2009 Russia carved out a small slice of Georgia as a buffer zone to emphasize the point as after 25 years of this and not reacting, they felt they had to do something to show the western powers that this will no longer be tolerated. Putin also gave a speech at Munich in 2008 where he and Lavrov both made it blindingly bloody clear that any interference in the neutrality of Ukraine, a nation where Russia has been invaded through three separate times over the last 200 years by the UK, France, and Germany, would not be tolerated and would result in Crimea being taken back at a minimum, by military kinetic means if necessary. Crimea was a part of russia for centuries until the 1950's when the soviets transferred it to Ukraine within the union, it has had a Russian Naval base on it since 1784, about 20 years before the UK bombed it to pieces in the Crimean war. So you can understand why they would be quite annoyed about the western militarisation of Ukraine. Then in 2014, US and UK intelligence rode a horse and coaches over that red line by arming, funding, and training far right nationalists within Ukraine in their overthrowing of a neutral democratically elected Ukrainian government where by the US then chose the next government as we know from the leaked audio recordings of the then under secretary of state Victoria Nuland that are still up on the net to this day. And this was despite the fact there was only 18 months to go until the next Ukrainian elections and despite the fact the neutral deposed former government had offered fresh elections immediately to quell the unrest. This then began a civil war in Ukraine where the 10 million eastern Ukrainians broke away from that far right nationalist government that had been installed by the west and had been brutalising those eastern mainly Russian speaking regions, and it caused Russia to honour its warning where by it took back Crimea though it had no need to use military means as 94% of its population were Russian speaking and mostly happy to return where by Russia built them a 300 million dollar bridge that had been promised by Ukraine for decades and never delivered due to internal corruption. See part 2 below. Split due to RUclips limitations.
Part 2. (if you cannot see part 1, organise comments by newest first and then view the thread, youtube appears to have hidden the first part via this method.) Over the next 8 years Russia entered into diplomacy to try to stop this Ukrainian civil war on its boarders via the Minsk 1 and 2 peace agreements with France and Germany acting as guarantors for Ukraine, but they broke those agreements at the behest primarily of America, and the civil war continued. Russia spent 8 years bending over backwards in diplomatic efforts to not have to do what it is now doing for its national security as it see's it. Where as the west spent those 8 years ensuring Russia would be left with no choice but to do what it is presently doing for the assurance of its national security. If China expanded a for profit military alliance into Mexico you can be assured the USA would have bombed the crap out of it by the weekend, not spent 8 years trying to prevent such via diplomacy. By the end of 2021, after this civil war had been raging with the deaths of 14,000 people as a result, the Russian government could put up with no more of this and decided to force diplomacy. They began amassing a small expeditionary force of 80,000 troops and some 60,000 in logistics and supply on the Ukrainian border, and in December 2021 sent their diplomatic proposal to the United States who had been consistently arming and funding far right nationalists inside and outside the as then western puppet government running Ukraine. U.S. Professor Jeffrey Sachs who was instrumental in setting up the former soviet nations economies as independent states, called the Whitehouse and begged them, pleaded with them, to accept the diplomatic proposals that would have kept Russia out of Ukraine and not cost Ukraine a thing to implement, the only cost would have been in the prevention of NATO expansion up to Russians boarders in Ukraine. i.e. western corporations would have lost out, not the Ukrainians. The USA assured Jeff diplomacy would be met with diplomacy, then they told the Russians to go pound sand. In Feb 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine with that small expeditionary force, it was in no shape to take territory and was not in any way geared to take Ukraine a nation larger than France, it was there to scare the living crap out of them and the west, and to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. This worked as by the end of March peace talks were being held in Budapest with Zelensky and Putin meeting and their diplomats meeting there to hammer out a peace agreement and the Russians offered them an agreement that was insanely good, it would not have cost Ukraine an inch of its landmass nor the life of a soldier nor an ounce of gold to implement and would have kept those eastern breakaway regions in Ukraine under autonomous government like we do with Scotland in the UK. They were right at the end of the peace agreement by April, all was going well and the documents again have been published on line for all to see. It was in its final stages about to be ratified that would have stopped this war before it began in earnest, when Boris Johnson on US orders, flew to Ukraine and forced Zelensky to back out of the agreement while at the same time Ukrainian intelligence riddled with far right nazi loving militia had their own lead negotiator assassinated, leaving the Russians with absolutely no other option but to do as they have done from that day to this. They are not there to take Ukraine, they do not need to take Ukraine's lands they are the largest landmass nation on the planet, they are there to destroy the Ukrainian military which they have been doing by grinding it to pieces at a loss ratio of 6 Ukrainians to every 1 Russian killed, and all because of what the UK did and the US did , and in its own way France and Germany did at the behest of America, to ensure this most forewarned of war would come to pass. So tell me again how it is the Russians who need to watch this docufilm when even now they still have a no first strike policy and America does not. And in case you had not realised, the UK and USA are not the good guys here, the rest of the world outside the west, where 90% of the people live in the south and east, are not on our side in this and see us as the belligerent evil players we are. ^^ sufficed to say not the BBC nor any main media nor any newspaper in the west will ever tell you a scrap of that. And this accounting here does not even include all the crimes the west has done here, I didn't even get to mentioning the US blowing up a German/Russian 50/50 owned fossil fuel pipeline that caused UK energy markets to collapse via a massive price inflation as blowback from American foreign policy. I do not agree with a nation invading another, but I am forced to admit, no matter who the leader of Russia was today, even if I was that leader, I would have felt compelled to do no different in reaction to what the US/EU/and America has done.
@@Poorhouses.And.Prisons Unfortunately all you have wrote will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes to the majority of people who still believe in cold war propaganda, of ''The evil in East''.
Just to think this was almost close to reality back then. Although from January 2025 the World has another 4 years of concern that it might happen with ol' Candy Floss bonce having the keys to the red button! 🫤
I like to watch this to cheer me up after a visit from my mother-in-law.
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Without your mother in law, you'd be without your spouse.
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How has this been on here 8 years when ive searched for it and never found a full version like this. I really forgot how harrowing this was. It's really got into my head, I cant sleep now.
It has just been shown again on the BBC to mark the 40th anniversary. And is now on BBC iPlayer.
So maybe the BBC have told RUclips they can unblock it.
@craiggilchrist4223 I know, I was wondering the same thing. I saw it on BBC4 last October but it was just after the 40th anniversary of it been first shown. They showed the American version as in the version they showed on PBS back in 1985. I was slightly annoyed they didn't show the original BBC version from 1984. It's only slightly different with certain music in parts changed. I don't know why they had to change it ever so slightly for American/PBS audiences.
@@patdbean ahh yeah, that explains it.
@@AlexMitchell-i1g even so the DVD is still worth getting
It has two commentaries and loads of extras interviews. Some high ras photos taken while filming etc etc
@patdbean that sounds worth getting yes. I was working at Sheffield Uni until recently where they have the Barry Hines archives. I booked an appointment to go see it as there are apparently photos of the filming and actors and original transcripts and notes. Unfortunately I didn't make it that day as something else came up and I left the university a week later. I would have really liked to have seen that
Watched this aged 9 or 10 on a small white B&W TV with a coat hanger through lots of white noise and static in my bedroom. Terrified me, grew up sh!tt!ng myself through the remaining years of the cold war. Just watched it again and it's lost nothing. Bleak and tragic.
Chapters :-
0:06 spider intro
0:56 saturday march 5th ruth and jummy in car.
3:45 pregnant
5:01 tell mum and dad
7:29 us may send troops to iran.
8:18 families meet.
10:27 ruth and jimmy look at new flat
11:50 us sub sunk
12:44 uk war plans.
15:38 first signs of panic buying
19:00 jimmy and bob in pub, russia move nuclear war heads into iran. 'Go out with a bang"
23:05 first street protests.
25:39 nuclear exchange in iran.
27:28 us and russian navies begin fighting. More panic buying.
28:38 riots
29:43 some people try to abandon cities for the "safty" of the country side.
32:55 hospitals
38:15 bunker under sheffield town hall opened and maned.
39:09 protect and survive starts being broadcast.
41:07 last milk delivery
42:05 ruth's family start moving supplies to basement.
44:04 kemps build shelter
44:58 attack warning red.
46:15 sirens sound.
46:47 emp knocks out all mains power
47:17 first strike on nato targets.
49:59 main strike on viaduct near sheffield
54:03 ground burst at rail junction.
55:55 first fall out
57:55 kemps emerge from shelter to witness devastation.
58:56 800 to 1000 rads where clive lives
1:06:01 ruth leaves basement, and walks a cross city to jimmy's house.
1:10:08 nuclear winter sets in.
1:11:40 ruth finds mrs kemp dead in shelter
1:12:02 troops defend food store from looters .
1:13:32 hospital
1:19:15 looters leave ruth's house
1:20:30 able-bodied to report for reconstruction work.
1:27:25 ruth is relocated to buxton.
1:29:02 ruth meets bob at feeding centre, and they eat dead sheep.
1:32:35 first harvest
1:34:45 birth
1:36:57 christmas and first winter
1:41:05 ten years on . Ruth and her daughter
1:41:39 ruth's death
1:42:55 words and pictures
1:45:08 13 years after
1:45:26 gaz and spike
1:46:31 rape
1:49:08 jane gives birth
The idea of idiot council bosses having that power is the most terrifying thing of all
V good point!
give it a rest...
love that zac dongle from emerdale farm was one of the council muppets ..but yes a very salient point.
@@sheepunit7966Dingle.
I just pray that this NEVER happens! The reality would be even worse!!!! 😢
How right you are there then too of course?!
We wouldn't know about it here in the northern hemisphere😂
Yes, because the suffering would be real.
This always cheers me up at the end of Christmas 😊 😐
It's a bit of Tele suitable for after supper and bed!!
asmr at its best
Great , I can watch this for when I never want to sleep again
The reality of an attack. Amazing work by all involved in this production.
Typing this at the point of one of the most horrific scenes, which is where Ruth gives birth to her baby, without help or pain relief, and then breaks down. There is not a moment of joy, just devastation that she has brought a life into that world.
@geoffwright3692 I agree but also for me one of the most harrowing scenes was the utter horror and helplessness in the hospital as people pour in and they can't cope but also that scene where Ruth walks around the ruins of Sheffield and she sees that woman rocking her baby. The baby is just a charred remains. That was really harrowing scene. The look in her eyes too. That actress/extra really played that minor role well, the haunted, disturbed look in her eyes.
And the fact the actor playing Ruth’s daughter died not long after in a car crash just adds to the horror of it all.
Victoria O' Keefe@@Ben-rm3uc
@@Ben-rm3uc oh yes, was in a car crash in 1990.
And terrible birth defects
Have a look at when the wind blows
epic...also has a fantastic soundtrack ...anything with john mills is a win win
@@sheepunit7966 David Bowie wrote and performed the song at the beginning of When the Wind Blows
thanks for uploading the full version, legend
Watch it quickly before it's taken down
I have tried to watch this many times on RUclips but was only ever able to find short clips.,it was good to see it in full and I remember watching it way back in the 80s . I’m not sure if it’s my imagination but I seem to recall that this seemed pretty close to actually happening. (Scary) I’m from Sheffield and the fashion. Transport and even s y t buses.,along with the egg box town hall offices seem like it was another world but quite normal back then.,Sheffield town centre was so vibrant back then and I remember it like it was yesterday.. I now live in Norfolk but visit Sheffield regularly., the last time I was in Sheffield.(November 2024)barkers pool and fargate looked like a bomb site . Excellent film .
I watched this when I was 6, yes 6! In 1984.
No I didn’t have a bad upbringing, I can only imagine I sneaked downstairs to watch while my parents thought I was in bed I can’t remember. But oh boy I had a terror of Sheffield for years.Other than that I had a great childhood 😂
I watched it in school I was 13 🤪😱
Just as grim as I remember in 1984 when in my mid teens and living not too far away at the time.
All very well done, aside from after all the make up effects, the final actresses teeth being brilliant white (you could also see the fillings she would never have got), oh and they certainly don't make carrier bags like they used to lol Don't recall a Kwik Save bag lasting a week never mind a decade after a nuclear war.
Obviously that's as much humour as you can spin. I don't recall anyone at school being particularly freaked by it, just good playground material for how gross it was.
A few months later Frankie Goes to Hollywood sampled the air attack warning for Two Tribes, with longer extracts in the 12" versions.
I know it's only a drama - but, it's interesting to see we are in a loop and nothing changes in terms of politics and public manipulation.
Power dynamics never change
i was more interested to notice the young newspaper girl is now in coronation street..so...
@@sheepunit7966 I don't do rubbish soaps, but whatever tickles your fancy.
I don't think any politician has ever bothered to watch this.
@@hopesprings7812 100% - the tories don't care about the UK people, they are only interested in money.
The first short clip in the supermarket when the items were being scanned took me back when I saw the "half pence" being displayed on the till. Thinking about it,are the 5p's were using now smaller than them? It's been so long since I seen one.
I/2 pence coins were slightly smaller and lighter than the current 5 pence. As a child of the seventies I remember getting half penny sweets.
the 1/2 pence coin is slightly smaller than the 1pence coin we still have today.
I pence is worthless these days.
@mauriceadamson224 it's embarrassing if you're a penny short at the tills,and people are watching lol
I remembered this movie from years ago. As horrific as it is. This needs to be part of the Schools Curriculum. To educate the absolute horrors of a Nuclear War.
Ronald Reagan watched a similar movie in America called The Day After. He was absolutely in shock and decided to try and change things with Russia.Which was the beginning of Tearing down the walls.
Now we are back where we were.
Nobody will win from this.
School? Many youngsters would think it is too old and will not pay attention.
@ well it needs a remake. With all that’s happened in the 🌎 It’s really more close to home more than ever sadly.
It’s this generation that I am so worried about.
I was a teenager from Doncaster (featured) at the time, and I can tell you now, that if you weren't yet born in the 80s and believe it was all lively with funny hairdos and cheesy pop music and the rest, that yes, it had those things, but most of the decade was like this, even without the threat of nuclear war. It was seriously grim, especially for the working class.
The music, whether you like the serious kind in the early 80s, compared to the seriously cheesy kind by the likes of Wham! etc.,to the production-line pop from the likes of Stock, Aitken and Waterman, or rock (Def Leppard 😴), was a lot better than anything since.
Apart from that, I must say that there is some great acting in this, mostly by the actors we've never heard of.
But it was still in the hands of the brittish people. When things got cleared up a new plauge set in.
Last Orders - the mum is brilliant in Last Orders. Last Orders is a comedy set in a Northern pub. One of the best things I've seen in 20 years.
Do you mean Early Doors?
*FINALLY!* All of this movie is up on RUclips. I've had seen it all the way through though, but only in two parts on Dailymotion with bad quality.
Imagine being able to watch stuff like this as a small kid while your parents were either asleep or out.
Even today this film is still really dark and makes one think. The fact that it was the BBC who did this back in 1984 just shows what the BBC could do back in mid 80's! I dare say that the younger generation might find this film a little too dark! But I will say this for what it is worth, This is still a damn good film that was done really well!
Time to get some popcorn on the go, start up my project and settle down for a right fun evening ...
Fun for the whole family
@@daviddowsett1658 haha yes for sure!
🤣🤣🤣
1:24:52 - The sound of all those flies in the basement where Ruth's parents were bludgeoned to death by the looters, just for a packet of prawn cocktail crisps.
ooooft prawn cocktail tho...kp skips 😋
That scene after the looters get caught and the soldiers grab the bag "there's a packet of crisps" "what flavour?" "prawn cocktail".. "aye they f**king would be, I hate those"
Del boy, Rodney and grandad will be ok because they've got their own nuclear shelter on top of Nelson Mandela House🥳
Brilliant episode.
and gallons of lovely peckham spring water.
@@sheepunit7966 "you know it makes sense👍"
👌Cushty!
@lauramolony luvly jubbly..
its also on bbc iplayer atm
Best Christmas movie ever
I thought this was a new upload. Eight years?
I'd been looking for this for years. Has to go to the internet archive.
I hope they release 1984 (1984 version) to yt. But thanks for the upload.
I tried to upload this and youtube flagged it! Nice to see it alive online, for the moment :)
99 red balloons ,, remember? This film is extremely impactful, brilliantly directed and filmed with believable acting and special effects. The message sent is beyond reproach, events as these should never, ever occur within sane societies.
I read some comments and shaking my head,,, some speak of propaganda and I ask, isn't our current time the overall leader of propaganda thrown at us from all directions? Look farther into things than the produced narratives by some for the many to ingest?
I have seen this before,but am interested in the comments.
I recall watching this when i had just had a old Redefusio Tv.onna rented roon
Good old Barry Hines
Required viewing for everyone, same goes with 'Come and See'.
Ух ты полный фильм на ютубе спасибо автор.
What is your view on this coming from another country?
@@LoyalisterMcUlsterI guess that: despite the fact that I’m Russian, I feel sorry for the British, it’s good that this is an alternative universe
@@T-bz1ib I would feel as disturbed if this was set in Russia, let alone if it was set in my hometown. Nuclear war should be alternate history forever.
@@LoyalisterMcUlsterI agree with you too much.
I was 26 when Barry Hines (yes he did write Kestrel for A Knave or KES and yes we all read it in School) Hines had also been an English teacher in a Secondary Modern
Even then he was active in CND
The Government had him down as a 'Left Wing Pinko' likely along with Glenda Jackson and what was the many in the old Labour Party (before Blair and of course Sir Mid Starver)
Bear in mind weapons have got even bigger since this was made. Not only that but since the break up of the old Soviet Union this stuff has become harder to monitor and control
The clearest message in Threads is that once a state, a group of people, a sovereign power start launching these weapons an exchange inevitably will happen that nobody can ' turn off'
Logically speaking now with " Bunker busting nukes" nobody of importance or high enough up will be left to turn this stuff off.
The very first objective of either side will be to wipe out central command and control systems.
The other totally clear message is when your rulers, your government choose a Nuclear response you are powerless. You can do nothing . If you try and stop them maybe at first they will lock you up but pretty soon they will be shooting to kill. Then you are totally powerless.
But, I don't want the geezer from *Home To Roost* and the mum from *Early Doors* to die☠️😭
sad you missed zac dongle from emerdale and the outspoken newspaper girl currently residing in coronation st...ppfft.
This is a great heart warming family film,relax and enjoy! 😂😂😂
Hahaha, yeah family entertainment alright! We watched it as family in 1984 on a Sunday night. Never forget it.
@@AlexMitchell-i1g I had nightmares even as a grownup.
@frankadam1800 I know mate, I was being flippant. I was the same, for years this cast a dark shadow of my 80s childhood. I still have dreams about a nuclear bomb going off.
I was 18 in 1984 when this was first broadcast, didn’t exactly fill me with joy for the future! 😂
@HHM706 I was 11 mate and yeah I know exactly what you mean. I didn't think we would ever get out of the 80s, not intact anyways. I thought I would be dead well before the 80s were over.
Delicious newscaster at 35:00. That straight cut fringe- Phwoarr! Makes me want to relieve a schoolboy fantasy 🤩
Lesley Judd if I remember correctly.
@@Speedbird_Concorde yes indeed
@Speedbird_Concorde that's her,was on blue peter
Few works of art can claim to have made nuclear war less likely but I think this one can.
The movie/documentary that may have just saved the whole of humanity as we know it... At least for a while...
THe way we talk about nukes and war now, I honestly thing we forgot about this, too confident that it will not happen.
that last scene tore me a new arse. Again.
I remember this from the 80s when I lived in Sheffield where it was filmed I was terrified after watching
@1:42:40 Ruth had kept the exotic birds handbook for all those years.
This is the single most scariest film I have ever seen in my life, and you know what, it could very much happen today in this day and age now the way that Russia is... Very very likely as well...
According to all western diplomats I am aware of including former ambassadors to Russia, I am far more worried about the actions of America than I ever would be the reactions of Russia accordingly.
''Way Russia is'', certainly got you hook, line and sinker. Get a grip. We should stop being a puppet to america.
Russia is a shadow of it's power what it once was in 1984 - we have only become more powerful nuclear wise.
Russia, China, North Korea
The whole world right now is on a knife edge
@ Well, potentially, but not because of what they have done that is for sure as the rest of the world outside the west, where 90% of the planets population lives, see them as defending against aggression and belligerence, not the instigators of it.
still chilling, even after all this time.
I know. I'm quoting the lady in the shop. 40p that's scandalous they were only 29p last week.
This was always a family favourite at Christmas, I remember my grandmother would always comment that the women who peed herself should have shown more self control 🤍
Bloody hell was she a VW fan 😂
@ She was an entomologist who lived by the sea 🤣
Finally? Its been here for 8 years!
But blocked by RUclips until now. So its existence was more theoretical than reality.
1:49:28 - Is that "Jimmy Kemp"?
Would a post apocalyptic local council run by a warlord empty your bins on a Friday ? I think not !
Eeeyyyyy rat fans!
Shout out to everyone who saw this on video in school!
I bet you could hear a pin drop after the class was done watching, with sick stomachs and flushed faces?
40p that's scandalous
Was that for a weeks shopping?
@@marcN19 A tin of lychees. They were 28p last week
@marcN19 no for a tin of lychees
@kevindrobecz it was back then, could get a packet of crisps for 11 and a half pence and I think a Twix or Marathon bar was about 14p
I remember that music to "Words and pictures"!
Who is here in 2025 waiting for aliens or nukes?
Yes ,I wish😂 humanity is sick
that was a hard watch...
Les, the mops was this era.
A very prescient movie. It doesn't seem far-fetched now does it? What with what is going on in our world currently. Saw this on its debut on the Beeb. They won't be showing it anytime soon as there's no PDFiles in it!
It didn't feel far fetched then either.
This film should be shown to all world leaders who have nuclear weapons! Especially the superpowers! America & Russia, then hopefully they would think twice about ever using these weapons of mass destruction!! Nobody wins in a Nuclear war!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!
I’d expect they’ve seen it.
This was way more grim than I expected. Lunatics in charge of US and Russia, anything could happen :(.
The first 3/4 of this drama are superb. The ending is completely flawed. Humans are fundamentally resilient and innovative. If we weren't, our ancestors would have failed and we would not exist. If post-nuclear holocaust conditions on Earth supported human life, leadership would emerge and a core of survivors would build a functioning society. They wouldn't be the dulled and apathetic subhumans shown in Threads.
Old Tom Solloway sent me here...
Now that was messed up
A nightmare
Terrifying. Brutal film.
The American apocalyptic film made around the same time is Teletubbies compared to this,
Agreed its tame compared to this
I won’t ruin it by giving you the ending!
nice to see a sainsburys bag survived after 13 years..and a lil mistake at the end when the girl was giving birth...she had a filling!
Would have been interesting to see how things panned out worldwide in terms of where else was targeted. I would guess a 3,000 MT exchange would imply the USA and USSR getting around 1,000 MT each and the rest falling on Europe and China....
Basically all the Northern hemisphere gone.
@@jimbotron70 Unfortunately the fallout would effect the whole world. Oh happy days ! Also no civil defence no shelters. Although going on Covid the idiots wouldn't loot food, just toilet paper. Makes you think.
1:20:10 Spot on, worst flavour ever.
"Fuckin' would be - I 'ate them!"
What a f’ing horrible film! Probably extremely accurate too which is the scariest part - and this was pre-internet, pre-social media - imagine how even more useless the masses would be to deal with this kind of existence?
If you are left depressed after watching Threads ( who wouldn’t be? ) , look up mrs Kemp in “ trollied “ for a well needed laugh😊
Excellent, proving once again that British do it better everytime.
Realistic though the reality would be much worse.
Best comedy of the 80s I always thought.
if you want real comedy watch the american version..thank me later
@@sheepunit7966seen it too bright and sunshiney
@romystumpy1197 😂
The Lord preserve us. ❤
On the plus side they secured those oil fields so it was all worth it 😂😂😂😂
welcome to the future of the uk...starmergeddon
Every politician should be forced to watch this film. I bought the german version a few years ago but the syncronisation isn´t good. So the original is far more intense!
starmer watched it and its now our future...
It’s this happening again now with Putin.
I’m sick of dictators repeating this.
Long live UKRAINIAN DEMOCRACY.❤
**** ***.
This was during the iran-iraq w, so USSR would have been helping iran, while the west was helping iraq (remember saddam).
NBC CBRN
Red Army tanks get destroyed invading a much weaker neighbor.....Ukraine.Oh well.
Nothing like a good bit of BBC propaganda to instill fear.
Let the Russians watch this. Their leader is happy to let this happen, all these decades after this film was invented.
All world leaders must watch this!
Part 1.
What I am about to state are matters of history, not from the Kremlin but from U.S. and UK diplomats, ambassadors, former prime ministers, economists, and the record of western journalists and the UN over these years. And it is everything you are not told in order to get you to say and think as you just did along with most other people in the west. Up to you if you wish to read it all, you can verify it all via Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Professor John Mearsheimer, Pulitzer prize winning Journalist Chris Hedges, Pulitzer prize winning Journalist Seymour Hersh, Colonel Larry Wilkerson former aid to Colin Powell, former UK ambassador Craig Murray, Geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar, to name but a few.
Now, as to your comment, Russian leaders did watch this you see back in 1984, at least they watched the American version of it called the day after, they watched it with the US leaders of the time together at the White house. Reagan and Gorbachev. And from that they were both so horrified they both agreed this must Never be allowed to come to pass and started working on nuclear arms controls together which is how we got nuclear agreements that removed intermediate nukes from Europe keeping it a nuke free zone and scaled down weapons stockpiles from tens of thousands of nukes on each side to a few thousand per side. Enough to ensure mutually assured destruction. M.A.D. but not enough to directly cause tensions by them being spread all over the place.
This led to a greater sense of security for all and when it came time for German reunification the soviets as they were at the time agreed to allow a nation that murdered over 20 million soviets during ww2 to reunify, on the condition and promise by western leaders as attested to by many of them still living, including John Major, that NATO would not expand beyond eastern Germany.
Then after the end of the Soviet Union, Clinton came to power and against the wishes of his own defence secretary who almost resigned over the matter, started expanding NATO into the eastern former soviet nations breaking all prior promises. The Russians under Yeltsin at the time protested loudly about this, asking why there was any need for this when Russia was not a threat and wanted to be a partner of the west whom it had been supplying cheap energy to for decades, but they did not react. NATO continued expanding for profits of capitalism.
Then George Bush Jnr came to power, and unilaterally ripped up the anti ballistic missile treaty between the USA and Russia so as to allow the selling of multi billion dollar anti ballistic missile systems to the now 5 times expanded NATO into those former soviet states. The Russians now under Putin protested loudly, once again they said they were not communists anymore, they wanted to be partners of the west, they even asked to join NATO first under Clinton and under Bush Jnr, they were told to go pound sand as that would destroy any reason for NATO to exist and keep expanding for profits at any externalised cost to peace, security, and lives.
The U.S began stationing those anti ballistic missile systems from 2008 onwards, telling the Russians a bullcr*p tale that it was to defend against Iran... Still the Russians did not react immediately, though Putin did give an open talk to all world journalists in 2008 on these matters where he pointed out that these systems were compromising the aspect of mutually assured destruction and so would necessitate the development of missiles capable of striking those ABM systems should Russia ever have to counter attack with nuclear weapons. Note the word counter attack as they have a no first strike policy where as America never has had such a policy.
Then on his way out of office George Bush Jnr forced the announcement of what would in time be the 6th expansion of NATO in that Ukraine and Georgia would be brought into NATO again all for profits, at the cost of peace and security. The heads of NATO and the Ukrainian and Georgian peoples at the time stated openly they had no desire to join NATO but it was pushed upon them that this would happen down the road and the heads of NATO thought this was a stupid thing to push for that would inevitably lead to tensions and potential conflict.
As a result in 2009 Russia carved out a small slice of Georgia as a buffer zone to emphasize the point as after 25 years of this and not reacting, they felt they had to do something to show the western powers that this will no longer be tolerated. Putin also gave a speech at Munich in 2008 where he and Lavrov both made it blindingly bloody clear that any interference in the neutrality of Ukraine, a nation where Russia has been invaded through three separate times over the last 200 years by the UK, France, and Germany, would not be tolerated and would result in Crimea being taken back at a minimum, by military kinetic means if necessary.
Crimea was a part of russia for centuries until the 1950's when the soviets transferred it to Ukraine within the union, it has had a Russian Naval base on it since 1784, about 20 years before the UK bombed it to pieces in the Crimean war. So you can understand why they would be quite annoyed about the western militarisation of Ukraine.
Then in 2014, US and UK intelligence rode a horse and coaches over that red line by arming, funding, and training far right nationalists within Ukraine in their overthrowing of a neutral democratically elected Ukrainian government where by the US then chose the next government as we know from the leaked audio recordings of the then under secretary of state Victoria Nuland that are still up on the net to this day. And this was despite the fact there was only 18 months to go until the next Ukrainian elections and despite the fact the neutral deposed former government had offered fresh elections immediately to quell the unrest.
This then began a civil war in Ukraine where the 10 million eastern Ukrainians broke away from that far right nationalist government that had been installed by the west and had been brutalising those eastern mainly Russian speaking regions, and it caused Russia to honour its warning where by it took back Crimea though it had no need to use military means as 94% of its population were Russian speaking and mostly happy to return where by Russia built them a 300 million dollar bridge that had been promised by Ukraine for decades and never delivered due to internal corruption.
See part 2 below. Split due to RUclips limitations.
Part 2. (if you cannot see part 1, organise comments by newest first and then view the thread, youtube appears to have hidden the first part via this method.)
Over the next 8 years Russia entered into diplomacy to try to stop this Ukrainian civil war on its boarders via the Minsk 1 and 2 peace agreements with France and Germany acting as guarantors for Ukraine, but they broke those agreements at the behest primarily of America, and the civil war continued. Russia spent 8 years bending over backwards in diplomatic efforts to not have to do what it is now doing for its national security as it see's it. Where as the west spent those 8 years ensuring Russia would be left with no choice but to do what it is presently doing for the assurance of its national security. If China expanded a for profit military alliance into Mexico you can be assured the USA would have bombed the crap out of it by the weekend, not spent 8 years trying to prevent such via diplomacy.
By the end of 2021, after this civil war had been raging with the deaths of 14,000 people as a result, the Russian government could put up with no more of this and decided to force diplomacy. They began amassing a small expeditionary force of 80,000 troops and some 60,000 in logistics and supply on the Ukrainian border, and in December 2021 sent their diplomatic proposal to the United States who had been consistently arming and funding far right nationalists inside and outside the as then western puppet government running Ukraine. U.S. Professor Jeffrey Sachs who was instrumental in setting up the former soviet nations economies as independent states, called the Whitehouse and begged them, pleaded with them, to accept the diplomatic proposals that would have kept Russia out of Ukraine and not cost Ukraine a thing to implement, the only cost would have been in the prevention of NATO expansion up to Russians boarders in Ukraine. i.e. western corporations would have lost out, not the Ukrainians.
The USA assured Jeff diplomacy would be met with diplomacy, then they told the Russians to go pound sand.
In Feb 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine with that small expeditionary force, it was in no shape to take territory and was not in any way geared to take Ukraine a nation larger than France, it was there to scare the living crap out of them and the west, and to get Ukraine to the negotiating table.
This worked as by the end of March peace talks were being held in Budapest with Zelensky and Putin meeting and their diplomats meeting there to hammer out a peace agreement and the Russians offered them an agreement that was insanely good, it would not have cost Ukraine an inch of its landmass nor the life of a soldier nor an ounce of gold to implement and would have kept those eastern breakaway regions in Ukraine under autonomous government like we do with Scotland in the UK.
They were right at the end of the peace agreement by April, all was going well and the documents again have been published on line for all to see. It was in its final stages about to be ratified that would have stopped this war before it began in earnest, when Boris Johnson on US orders, flew to Ukraine and forced Zelensky to back out of the agreement while at the same time Ukrainian intelligence riddled with far right nazi loving militia had their own lead negotiator assassinated, leaving the Russians with absolutely no other option but to do as they have done from that day to this. They are not there to take Ukraine, they do not need to take Ukraine's lands they are the largest landmass nation on the planet, they are there to destroy the Ukrainian military which they have been doing by grinding it to pieces at a loss ratio of 6 Ukrainians to every 1 Russian killed, and all because of what the UK did and the US did , and in its own way France and Germany did at the behest of America, to ensure this most forewarned of war would come to pass.
So tell me again how it is the Russians who need to watch this docufilm when even now they still have a no first strike policy and America does not. And in case you had not realised, the UK and USA are not the good guys here, the rest of the world outside the west, where 90% of the people live in the south and east, are not on our side in this and see us as the belligerent evil players we are.
^^ sufficed to say not the BBC nor any main media nor any newspaper in the west will ever tell you a scrap of that. And this accounting here does not even include all the crimes the west has done here, I didn't even get to mentioning the US blowing up a German/Russian 50/50 owned fossil fuel pipeline that caused UK energy markets to collapse via a massive price inflation as blowback from American foreign policy.
I do not agree with a nation invading another, but I am forced to admit, no matter who the leader of Russia was today, even if I was that leader, I would have felt compelled to do no different in reaction to what the US/EU/and America has done.
@@Poorhouses.And.Prisons Unfortunately all you have wrote will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes to the majority of people who still believe in cold war propaganda, of ''The evil in East''.
@Poorhouses.And.Prisons That is a damn fine and educated reply. I was being flippant, not knowing of the situation. Thanks.
Glow in the dark playfoam really blew up that year...
Just to think this was almost close to reality back then.
Although from January 2025 the World has another 4 years of concern that it might happen with ol' Candy Floss bonce having the keys to the red button! 🫤
Better him than dementia man.
@AcausalMonolith Yeah right!