New bowler, went from 99 last week to 205 tonight, been watching your videos for two handed bowling. Get my first ball next week, can’t wait to see how a reactive feels vs a house ball
@@BigSkyBowler I bought my first reactive (tropical surge) and scored 68, feels pretty bad. lol - first time finger tips and I throw too slow so the ball was just hooking into the left gutter
@@KaizenOz yup a reactive ball is quite the change from a house ball. Your going to have to get used to trying to get the ball into the oil on your house shot if you want it to get any length down lane.
@@BigSkyBowler I've been throwing from as far left as possible with the house and my speed is only 12-13mph, but Im guessing that will improve with time and footwork. I'll keep watching your channel and working at it :)
@@BigSkyBowler thank you! And I really liked your analysis on Belmo’s ball speed. The fastest I currently throw it at is 18 MPH and that’s me really trying. He makes it look effortless and now I can see why. It’s his arms being more relaxed and less tense. I’m going to have to implement that in my swing
I always take my first step to the left, then go straight up during the skip step, I keep my hips open. If I don't keep my hips open, I will miss my mark inside every time. I also relax my arm on the swing, definitely helps get speed on the ball.
I'm in the same boat. I injured my bicep pretty bad 4 weeks ago bowling for the 2nd time in years throwing a 2 finger hook with a house ball. I joined a warm up league to get back into bowling and my bicep was hurting within a few throws. However i ended the first game with a 231. I should had stopped but because of the good score I kept bowling and eventually had to switch to just a straight ball because my bicep was hurting so bad. Anyways woke up the next day with the bicep super swollen and been in recovery mode ever since. Been watching a bunch of two-handed bowling content and I believe that it would take a lot of pressure off the bicep and make it to where I can bowl again.
Great analysis thank you! Would love to see more of these soon! i definitely agree that belmo has one of the best forms. His balance, spine tilt and swing are truly world class. What is your opinion on the amount of control he has to change speeds at will for easier control. As for someone who is still fairly new to bowling (since March, also two handed) What are other tips and tricks for a more accurate shot?
Your welcome and thank you for watching! My opinion? His ability to control everything so smoothly when he needs to is exactly why he is the best bowler in the world. His physical game is just amazing and its what allows him to adjust everything as necessary. Back when he first came on tour he had less capability than he has now. This is a fine example of someone learning how to become the most versatile player on tour. He can bang it up the gutter when he needs to and he can get deep and slow hook it when he needs to. I would recommend watching my series on keys to the two handed game on my channel: ruclips.net/p/PL0RuV1yjxFnYDGTplAn47pkqQ51uihxbn These videos include many different tips to helping two-handers become more consistent.
Very nice video Big Sky Bro! I am also thinking of the relaxed downswing tip a couple of days ago, then now you say it :D The straightened arm swing is caused by the relaxed arm swing.
I just started transitioning to 2 handed this season, about 8 weeks in. You mentioned that most 2 handed bowlers don't plant their trail leg, and I found that rather odd. You didn't really dive into it, but was curious if there's more insight to this. I assume since I was a 1H bowler first, the classic mentality of driving my trail toe into the approach, just carried over, but I never even thought about it, until you mentioned it in this video. Just curious.
It really comes down to how much spine tilt you are using in your approach. If your not using much spine tilt, keeping the trail leg on the floor isn't too difficult. As your spine tilt increases, your trail leg naturally wants to come off the floor.
If I had to guess I would say belmonte steps off to the left to make sure he doesn't have to change his approach when he's going left and the ball returns in the way
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You would be correct, because it's a combination of spine tilt and proper shoulder alignment. In the case of a two handed bowler, you cannot achieve a high back swing with just shoulder alignment. They work together.
@@BigSkyBowler The majority of people are two-handed bowlers. I think you meant those who throw with two hands. But Belmonte actually throws with one hand/arm also, all he's doing is holding the ball longer with both hands before he releases with the right. His left hand does not assist to throw the ball anymore than the other 99 percent of traditional style bowlers.
It's interesting seeing Jason's style from the early days too, there's a short video of him from 1999 and his form was absolutely bonkers low compared to today. He really has refined his style alot
@@BigSkyBowler absolutely. Same with osku I've noticed. Will be good to see your analysis on Osku's style, although will you delve into his one handed spares that he used to do? That always interested me. Apparently he just did it one day for fun and then decided to do it for most single pin spares
@@BigSkyBowler awesome! And yeah I totally agree. Being one of the only very few two handers in the UK, its good to have these videos to look at and analyse. I've recently switched back to my old one handed style for spares so will be good to see you covering that!
@@steve5354 ah, that's from one of my tournament vlogs from a regional I went to where EJ Tackett averaged 267 in qualifying. He hammered the field so to speak.
9:36. He's not throwing with two hands. Yes he holds the ball with two hands for a very long time, but he still throws with just the right. The left hand drops off at the last second much like a jump shot in basketball.
@@perserverance333Not just semantics, he is literally a two handed bowler. Two handed means you don’t use your thumb and you use your second hand to anchor instead. He literally cannot do the same motion he does with one hand. You’re just objectively wrong lol.
Hello there! I started 2 handed bowling about 2 months ago currently average arnd 100 highest 147. My main issue right now is that when I release the ball I sort of drop it and it loses a lot of energy. How do you release it properly and turn your fingers around the ball like Jason? Can I send u a pic of my bowling perhaps maybe you can help will mean the world tysm 😊 I average abt 18-19 mph on throw . I dmed you on insta too :))
New bowler, went from 99 last week to 205 tonight, been watching your videos for two handed bowling. Get my first ball next week, can’t wait to see how a reactive feels vs a house ball
205 with a house ball is quite impressive!
Congrats!
Thanks for watching!
@@BigSkyBowler I bought my first reactive (tropical surge) and scored 68, feels pretty bad. lol - first time finger tips and I throw too slow so the ball was just hooking into the left gutter
@@KaizenOz yup a reactive ball is quite the change from a house ball. Your going to have to get used to trying to get the ball into the oil on your house shot if you want it to get any length down lane.
@@BigSkyBowler I've been throwing from as far left as possible with the house and my speed is only 12-13mph, but Im guessing that will improve with time and footwork. I'll keep watching your channel and working at it :)
@@KaizenOz how far to the right are you trying to throw it? What is your target?
ありがとうございます!
Started 2 handing a few months and shot my first sanctioned 700 series a few weeks ago!! Was originally a one hander so it’s been a transition
Congrats!
@@BigSkyBowler thank you! And I really liked your analysis on Belmo’s ball speed. The fastest I currently throw it at is 18 MPH and that’s me really trying. He makes it look effortless and now I can see why. It’s his arms being more relaxed and less tense. I’m going to have to implement that in my swing
@@silverhandsss thank you!
Very well made video, thank you for this.
Thank you!
You are welcome!
Thanks for this helpful video, as a new 2 handed bowler, this has helped increase my consistency/average a lot.
@@raverwithflavor that is awesome! You are very welcome! I am glad it helped.
I always take my first step to the left, then go straight up during the skip step, I keep my hips open. If I don't keep my hips open, I will miss my mark inside every time. I also relax my arm on the swing, definitely helps get speed on the ball.
I'm switched to to hands because of an arm injury, this was just what I needed to get started.
Sorry to hear of your injury. I'm glad I was able to help!
I'm in the same boat. I injured my bicep pretty bad 4 weeks ago bowling for the 2nd time in years throwing a 2 finger hook with a house ball. I joined a warm up league to get back into bowling and my bicep was hurting within a few throws. However i ended the first game with a 231. I should had stopped but because of the good score I kept bowling and eventually had to switch to just a straight ball because my bicep was hurting so bad. Anyways woke up the next day with the bicep super swollen and been in recovery mode ever since. Been watching a bunch of two-handed bowling content and I believe that it would take a lot of pressure off the bicep and make it to where I can bowl again.
Loved the video!
Thank you
This is very helpful.
Im trying to learn how to bowl like Belmo. That’s how I started out. So this video will be beneficial for me
Glad it was helpful!
@@BigSkyBowler I can’t really do much to use it right now though. Once I’m able to, it will be very helpful
Great analysis thank you! Would love to see more of these soon! i definitely agree that belmo has one of the best forms. His balance, spine tilt and swing are truly world class. What is your opinion on the amount of control he has to change speeds at will for easier control. As for someone who is still fairly new to bowling (since March, also two handed) What are other tips and tricks for a more accurate shot?
Your welcome and thank you for watching!
My opinion? His ability to control everything so smoothly when he needs to is exactly why he is the best bowler in the world. His physical game is just amazing and its what allows him to adjust everything as necessary.
Back when he first came on tour he had less capability than he has now. This is a fine example of someone learning how to become the most versatile player on tour. He can bang it up the gutter when he needs to and he can get deep and slow hook it when he needs to.
I would recommend watching my series on keys to the two handed game on my channel:
ruclips.net/p/PL0RuV1yjxFnYDGTplAn47pkqQ51uihxbn
These videos include many different tips to helping two-handers become more consistent.
Very nice video Big Sky Bro! I am also thinking of the relaxed downswing tip a couple of days ago, then now you say it :D The straightened arm swing is caused by the relaxed arm swing.
Thank you!
Thank you for watching and sharing!
Nice video. Good work.
Thank you!
I just started transitioning to 2 handed this season, about 8 weeks in. You mentioned that most 2 handed bowlers don't plant their trail leg, and I found that rather odd. You didn't really dive into it, but was curious if there's more insight to this. I assume since I was a 1H bowler first, the classic mentality of driving my trail toe into the approach, just carried over, but I never even thought about it, until you mentioned it in this video. Just curious.
It really comes down to how much spine tilt you are using in your approach.
If your not using much spine tilt, keeping the trail leg on the floor isn't too difficult. As your spine tilt increases, your trail leg naturally wants to come off the floor.
If I had to guess I would say belmonte steps off to the left to make sure he doesn't have to change his approach when he's going left and the ball returns in the way
Very possible. He did this a lot earlier in his career and could be plain habit.
Excellent description thanks!!! I’m working on this technique and could definitely use a coach if your interested!
Your welcome.
I offer virtual lessons. You can sign up for a one time lesson or a lesson package through patreon. All the links are in my video descriptions!
shoulder turn, think of your golf swing, backswing part
Correct! I have a video where I discuss this in detail on my channel.
ruclips.net/video/DjNTHBoFYNw/видео.htmlsi=xS9_azjOScU9XhCT
Spine tilt doesn't increase shoulder extension.
You would be correct, because it's a combination of spine tilt and proper shoulder alignment.
In the case of a two handed bowler, you cannot achieve a high back swing with just shoulder alignment. They work together.
@@BigSkyBowler The majority of people are two-handed bowlers. I think you meant those who throw with two hands. But Belmonte actually throws with one hand/arm also, all he's doing is holding the ball longer with both hands before he releases with the right. His left hand does not assist to throw the ball anymore than the other 99 percent of traditional style bowlers.
@@BigSkyBowler With this style of bowling, achieving a high back swing is not required.
Good luck achieving ball speed without a backswing that at least gets to your hip. That is, without muscling it.
Very nice video
Thanks
Cool videos! Can I request an analysis of Ryland Breese? He's got a trippy style and it would be cool to see it broken down 😊
Hmmm... I've never heard of him, but I'll take a look.
Do you know what grip Belmo uses? Like does he use fingertip grip, semi fingertip or conventional grip?
I believe it's semi fingertip.
@@BigSkyBowler Okay yeah I believe so to. I think it's interesting to know what different 2handed pros are using for grips
Dope thanks
It's interesting seeing Jason's style from the early days too, there's a short video of him from 1999 and his form was absolutely bonkers low compared to today. He really has refined his style alot
Agreed. At a younger age he used to get very low with his tilt and his ball speed was insane.
@@BigSkyBowler absolutely. Same with osku I've noticed. Will be good to see your analysis on Osku's style, although will you delve into his one handed spares that he used to do? That always interested me. Apparently he just did it one day for fun and then decided to do it for most single pin spares
@@eurosimpliciti259 definitely! It's one of the things that sets him apart from most two handers
@@BigSkyBowler awesome! And yeah I totally agree. Being one of the only very few two handers in the UK, its good to have these videos to look at and analyse. I've recently switched back to my old one handed style for spares so will be good to see you covering that!
I tried that a while back but found out that it didn't really help my spare game much.
Im much better at them using my normal two-handed release.
Looks like he’s just walking around the ball return. They should move those back.
No, he definitely does it every single approach if you study closely.
Where do you average a 267?
???? Not sure why your asking this?
I might have miss read it but it says 267 average in your intro to the video
@@steve5354 ah, that's from one of my tournament vlogs from a regional I went to where EJ Tackett averaged 267 in qualifying. He hammered the field so to speak.
9:36. He's not throwing with two hands. Yes he holds the ball with two hands for a very long time, but he still throws with just the right. The left hand drops off at the last second much like a jump shot in basketball.
Yes that's correct. I never said he was throwing or releasing the ball with two hands??
@@BigSkyBowlerBut time and again we hear two hand bowler.
Semantics I guess.
@@perserverance333Not just semantics, he is literally a two handed bowler. Two handed means you don’t use your thumb and you use your second hand to anchor instead. He literally cannot do the same motion he does with one hand. You’re just objectively wrong lol.
good video but clean your house up
Almost like a slingshot.
Hoping I can do it like Jason Belmonte for my Filipina Celebrity Crush
Not a bad goal!
chris sloan next?
Another good one to add to the growing list!
I still can thelp but laught at two hand bowling... its so easy.
Please buy new glasses with anti-glare coating. The reflection of your monitor is distracting.
Hello there! I started 2 handed bowling about 2 months ago currently average arnd 100 highest 147. My main issue right now is that when I release the ball I sort of drop it and it loses a lot of energy. How do you release it properly and turn your fingers around the ball like Jason? Can I send u a pic of my bowling perhaps maybe you can help will mean the world tysm 😊 I average abt 18-19 mph on throw . I dmed you on insta too :))
I saw your message and responded to you.
ありがとうございます!
And thank you!