NEVER HEARD BEFORE TWO HANDED BOWLING TIPS (Two handed bowling tutorial)
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these all been heard before. Thumb placement only matters for personal preference in comfortability. Has nothing to do with ball control or release. I think with your cuff the ball tip, u should add to practice keeping it cupped for as long as possible as most beginners uncuff the ball on there back swing causing them to have an early and inconsistent release on their down swing. I like to tell others to keep the ball cuffed until your downswing is near your shoe laces and then unravel.
Thanks fellas, I’ve been waiting for this tutorial! Great work & very easy to understand!🙌🏻
With all due respect; i think you will be a much better and more consistent bowler if you stand closer to the foul lane, hold the ball up higher in your stance, walk much slower to your release, bend your elbow, bend your knee more at your post, and ditch conventional grip to finger tip.
I bet you money, your ball speed will go up, your rev rate will go up, your accuracy will go up, and youll create the tilt youre looking for.
Youre not that tall, take advantage of that, and stand closer, youre accuracy will go up.
Holding the ball higher will increase your ball speed.
Walking slower will help you generate power with your legs, instead of your shoulders doing all the work, plus walking slower will allow yourself to bend your knee more in your post and stay balanced; balance is the absolute more important fundamental in two handed bowling. Also, once you have more knee bend, you'll be more consistent with releasing at your foot, which will also give you more ball speed and revs.
Fingertip will obviously give you more revs as well. I like conventional too, so i get it.
Dude, when you explained the 5 step approach, and said to stand closer in the beginning.... that shot looked fantastic for youre style. I think you should stand there and refine it to your game.
Play like belmo, youve got the passion, and the ability, copy it all... be kobe.
One more thing, another thing no two handers ever talk about is their left arm, if you bend your right elbow, always focus on bending your left elbow with it! Your swing will stay closer to your body, and youll generate soooo much power! I dont understand why no one talks about this...
Anyways, I hope i didnt come across as a douche, i just think you can be extremely good with a few changes.
I don’t see much of a difference tbh. When it comes to cupped or not
What is your off hand / support hand doing in two handed bowling? Can you do a slow motion video explaining this?
Love your videos.
I completely understand RUclips and everybody starts somewhere. But please give factual information, not just things you feel all right. I am not a 2 handed Buller, but knowing you're new to this, I wanted to watch and see what kind of advice you're giving.
very informative video….had NO idea how two handed is done….going to go practicing and try this ….thanks so much! Noah, you did a very professional filming job..👍🏻👍🏻
Love the video always looking for different things to try got to try the thumb placement thing I never even thought about it aha
Main reason I'm writing a paragraph is that I believe highly that planting results in an early Achilles heel injury just waiting to happen and also does not produce more power it completely makes you use more arm rather then your speed and also makes you less accurate, prone to pushing or pulling the ball off your line. You also lose A LOT of your approach momentum because you stop on a dime which makes you not be able to full speed run up if you chose to do so.
I used to plant step and only could throw up to 13-14 mph with 15lbs. With a proper slide I use like 10x less energy all together, I even walk up half as fast as I did before and I swing my arms way more controlled and relaxed compared to when I used to plant step. I immediately started to average 17-18mph the day I started sliding with my new shoes (3g racers). I can throw up to 19mph with a moderate approach accurately without even putting my all into it. My spare shots are on average 17-18mph and my strike shots I can control to the T with different approaches. I have a style of approach to get 13-14 mph another for 15-16 mph and for my spares I just run up a little bit faster but its barely noticeable. Each approach I use the exact same arm swing the only thing I change is my approach. I also have a super calm belmo side step slow mo walk up to fuck around shooting like 8-13 mph, sometimes I do it if the lanes are super oily but I typically use it to screw around hooking the entire lane from my neighbors ball return xD
also you want to open your hips as much as possible during your approach by doing either a side step to start or perfecting your hop step, especially if you're older cause you're going to have hip problems over time if you don't walk up or throw properly. I personally do both separately or combine the two by side stepping on my first step the hopping on my 3rd then my power step + slide. Walking perfectly straight up to throw two handed also in my opinion doesn't always provide enough open hip action, if you bowl as often as I do you will eventually feel it in your hips 🥲
Question: Rafael & Noah when you first started to bowl did you bowl one handed first? Then you switched to 2 hand bowling 🎳
Jason Belmont is also my favourite bowler also! Then after him a few more!
Yes we started 1 handed
Good job guys 🇺🇸
This was fun. Never bowled much. But enjoyed it. Always one handed. Won't be bowling now because sitting in a wheelchair just doesn't seem to handy.
Was watching your dad and he said give you fellas a watch. I'm really glad I did. I will be back.
What is the song in this??
Good video
I'm a 68-year-old one-handed bowler who had not bowled in over 20 years because I had been working my tail off at the end of my career. Now that I'm retired, I got back on the lanes with some new equipment and almost fell on my face because I didn't realize what kind of muscle mass I had lost! So I've been working on that since February', and can now carry a 180 plus average on an open bowling burnt house shot. I would be tempted to work on trying to handed bowling, but realize that I should be at least wearing a motorcycle helmet or something along those lines first, and get in the gym and do some squats so I can be solid at the delivery point. I think with a little workout regimen, I would be able to get my legs strong enough to generate enough ball speed to get it somewhere between 17 and 20 mph. Fortunately my right arm is still strong so I would be able to get that 450 to 500 rev rate at least on fresh oil. Since I'm used to being a one-handed bowler, I'm wondering if I should just stay one-handed and work on getting the ball speed and rev rate there sort of along the lines of EJ Tackett. When I was your ages I was thinking of going pro because I had all the tools and the mindset, except I did not want to live the life of touring and hitting the rabbit squad every week until I won. I really enjoy and appreciate and respect what you guys do here, and came here because of your dad's program. I'm surprised you didn't name your page And We Bowl (roaming lanes 8 thru 28)!
Two handed bowlers seem to leave more splits and unusual spares compared to one handed on the PBA Tour. This is a correction to the message below.
Great video and great tips!
I will say thank you for being a bowler. Thank you for putting out videos and supporting this sport. Keep it up, but just work on more factual evidence.
One handed bowlers seem to leave more splits and unusual spares compared to two handed on the PBA Tour.
Hi, I gave it a thumbs up but it won't play for me.
Is it still not playing right now??
It just spins and doesn't start.
Yeah, it plays!
Great tutorial and great camera work. Learned from all the sections but the thumb positioning puts it over the top. I had been spreading out the thumb for support but resting the ball on the right of the arm, and closing the gap of the thumb spread, gets the ball getting closer to the palm for a cleaner release. Learned from the practice session at the end. Much easier than rolling a ball across the floor and picking it up. Will use the 1.3.5 as a warmup, the stomp 5th step works for me, and getting under the ball is priority. Best video I've seen for beginning 2 hands!
Hey man. It’s nice to see the younger players with a good passion for the sport and helping others. I’m 22 myself so i definitely encourage the youth to hit the lanes more when I see it. Don’t worry about the stutters you’re fine. I do it too! I also play 2 handed and will take these tips into account! Also keep working out man! You look amazing. If I had one tip for any future videos like this maybe add some chapters through video timestamps. It’ll help when people need to go back to a certain part or reference it when training!
Hi Rafael & Noah! How are you? Question when do you go on Discord with the time difference from Asia than the US?
I agree with keeping your hand under the ball, but not so much with part where you said, "The ball should always, no matter what be touching your arm." When you rest your ball on your forearm, you want have as much control of the ball at release and you will be susceptible to negative tilt, which occurs when your hand does not go in a continuous motion in the direction you're trying to rotate the ball. Negative tilt will lead to worse pin carry. Otherwise good video!!
You guys are so cute. I wonder if your sister is still making beautiful cakes. 🤔
Thank you so much ~ Can't wait to go bowling and work with these tips!
Hi great video from both of you. Would like to learn more about the axis tilt that you mentioned and how to work on it properly
Hello! Thanks for your comment. Although axis tilt is important, it isn't like there is a "best" axis tilt. As long as your tilt is positive and not negative. I recommend going to storm bowling YT channel 6 different ways Virtual Energy Blackout video to learn more. That is how Noah and I learned.
@@Bowling_Bros it does work for Sam Cooley and AJ Johnson, but they are pros and perhaps could be a unique case.
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Yeah. That looked natural, athletic, and most of all, repeatable. Beautiful shot. I just went to 2handed this year and I'm doing all I can to emulate Simo.
Thanks for the tips I saved it to my phone so I can practice maybe my releases won't be so wild then.
I'm from Taiwan and I'm also a two-handed player. This video is really amazing.
Respectful video, Love seing another 2 handers vids similar to mine
How many 300 y'all got?
noah has 1, and I have 0. I recently got 14 strikes in a row though :)
I feel like my 1 hand style hooks more than 2 handers. What you think?
This style is interesting. Are the finger holes drilled differently for this? Should you start lighter weight and build for beginners?
pretty solid video for straight bowling 2 handers
I'm looking to switch to two handed. I appreciate all the videos. Thanks guys.
Very well done. I’m experimenting with going from one handed to two handed, so this really helps!
Good videos guys.Tips are helping my game come along. Can you get those HI SP Shoes in the US?
Unfortunately you cannot.
When do you roll your wrist. if I keep my hand under the ball it tends to roll straight off my hand with no hook. I also noticed Bemo stands in the center walks left and releases acrioss the lane. It looks like you stay in the center, I always stay left and walk straight and release from the same point as belmo. I don't think Im bending over enough so the ball tends to loft. I also have a 4 step approach
Make sure to test which way you like to follow through. I found myself with the same issues early on. The way I fixed it is with my follow through. Some two handers follow through left with their release hand, and some follow through to the right. Try both and see what gets you more rotation
And if Belmonte is your favorite bowler, why are you trying to bowl like everybody else? Didn't you learn anything from him? He is the one that bowls different because he's comfortable bowling the way he bowls. He bowls that way for a certain reason. Comfort not to bowl, like other people.
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BETTER CAMERA FOLLOW VIEW OF THE FULL LANE VIEW TO THE RESULT OF THE THROW , SEEING IT WITH A BLOCKED VIEW AND UNABLE TO SEE THE BALL TRACK AND CONNECT WITH THE PINS IS NOT AN OPTIMAL CAPTURE OF THE WHOLE PROCESS, THANKS N SAY HELLO TO YOUR DAD, I SUBSCRIBE TO AND WE KNOW AND ITS MY TOP WATCH CONSISTENTLY CHANNEL, I HAVE NOT MISSED A VIDEO FOR 3 YEARS , GOD BLESS , DOUG
The point of this video is to learn two hands, not to see the ball, thanks for the intake :)
This is the video I was waiting for - thanks guys 😇
my new favorite bowling channel 👍
Ok. So the thumb tip is useful. What about follow through? It looks as if your hand goes up and out to the outside?
I always say to follow through as high and forward as you can to catch the ball at the bottom (getting more revs), and to keep consistency
Nice video, thank you! Just starting as well. What brand are those shoes?
They are Hi-sp japanese bowling shoes
Wow Rafael & Noah this is an awesome learning video! I agree with you 💯% with everything you said! You definitely know what you are talking about from experience & learning! You guys are awesome teachers!
You are correct about the position of your thumb! With your thumb you have better control on your release!
Noah you did an awesome job as the camera man! 👍
I took pictures with Jason Belmonte, Pete Weber, Wes Malott, Parker Bohon at PBA tournament in NJ.
That is awesome that you are going to meet Jason Belmote he is a nice guy! Take a photo with him!
Are you guys back in the United States?
Can’t wait to see your next video!
Thanks for your comment. We will 100% take a photo. Also no we live in Japan currently.
@@Bowling_Bros is Jason going to bowl with you guys in Japan?
Rafael you definitely show that you workout 💪
@@thepunisher4598 Yessir
I love this tips video. I think I mentioned before that I bowled in league for a bunch of years in my younger days, I wish I had tried 2 handed back the. I do remember my first 1 times bowling I did use 2 hands, and was kinda laughed at and that discouraged me from further pursuing the 2 handed. I'm sure if I get the opportunity to go bowling again ( I'm 61) I will definitely be doing 2 handed. Thanks guys. Blessings
I want to learn this but I am a four step bowler. Can I stay with the four step approach?
Of course you can :)
Good job guys the only thing i recommend is don’t swing your elbow around your back when releasing the ball if you bring your elbow straight back and up it will help you be more consistent
Thanks fidgety!! Are you a fellow two hander?
One of the best tutorials till now :D
Love the endless strikes!!!
Looking good, keep it up.
I have heard others say Planting is wrong and you should slide. I also think sliding generates more power.
Planting is wrong. It increases chance for knee injury and sliding gives you more power as well as balance
Different bowlers are "wired" to plant or slide. For me, sliding hurts my knee because if I slide I'll slide too far. No bowler should ever slide more than maybe 3 inches. When I was sliding I was sliding at least eight. Not good.
Planting feels much more natural to me and WAY less pressure on my knee. But I have short legs anyways so there's not much pressure anyways. But when I was sliding I was hyperextending the knee joint.
Nice tutorial guys. Can i know what's ur ball weight? 15lbs? damn smooth
15lbs. We switched to 15lbs 3 months ago. Before that we were throwing 14. We started throwing the ball too fast so we had to go up in weight. 15 is for sure the limit though. I don't think we'll ever go to 16.
@@Bowling_Bros ima noobie want to start 2-handed. Is 13lbs ball a good start? Or should I jump to 14 or 15?
@@aminacdc2613 definitely 14. The core in the ball is different from 13 and under, and a lot weaker. 16, 15, and 14lbs however all have the same core no matter what ball
Just awesome
Question, are you fingers tipped or conventional?
wdym? If youre asking if we use grips or not we do. We both put our fingers in to the second knuckle
@@Bowling_Bros Gotcha
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Thank you for the tutorial ! When you teach you actually learn twice… so it’s a smart move and very noble
Nice clinic! You all make 2-handed bowling seem more appealing.
im more impressed you havent broken your fingers because of how far you put them in the fingertips. with the inserts in there you should only be doing to the first knuckle not to the enter 2nd knuckle. if theres any kind of hang up youre going to be in big trouble
That’s just not true. You can get deeper inserts to the 2nd knuckle and it’s a perfectly valid way to bowl 2 handed. It allows you to have more control over the ball while still creating significant revolutions, allows you to switch between 1st and 2nd knuckle depending on the shot you need to make, and is no riskier than just using the first knuckle. If it’s fitted right and you’re releasing correctly it will come out smoothly every time.
First tip you've had right the whole time is being consistent. That is bowling consistency, every single throw.
Number 2, you can completely see purposely coming up the back of the ball on your first shot, purposely rotating on your seconds, trying to get people to bowl your style, just say look, this is great for me and let them choose. Don't tell them this is what you should be doing absolutely wrong.
First thing you got wrong right off the bat. Not all 2 handers bowl with 2 fingers only wrong.
He literally said that not all of them do. Learn to listen.
And just because your hand is far under that ball does not give you more revs or more power 0 truth to that.
Best two handed tip throw with one hand
LOL😂