you cant parry a drill. You're either talking about him super armoring thru drill or him parrying a singular last hit of drill. in any case amsa is still nutz and a blessing for the game
@@intothevoid3605 to be honest if the fox plays a laser/dair/grab uthrow heavy neutral like Sanne does...its a difficult task for the Yoshi even if the flat platformless stage that is FD, allows for combo heavy startups on the Yoshi's end...it still favors fox.
Only a little bit. If Yoshi is mid tier instead of bottom 5, is almost solely because of Amsa and his new playstyle with Yoshi abusing the eggs; also the double jump super armor helps a lot against falco and fox, the Melee's faces.
@@N12015 Super armor and tournament results is why he's mid tier. AmSa's mastery show's the character is something above that IMO. Also, I've heard that on TAS level the only character that can keep up with Fox is Yoshi.
Damn this was an intense set. Mango used to be AmSa's bracket demon, but starting at the end of last year to now AmSa has been adapting to him. I hope he keeps going.
@@intothevoid3605 I think both have their strengths and weaknesses for Yoshi. Falco has the better approach options and has better options to deal with Yoshi's armor, but gets edge guarded easier. Fox has the better recovery and pressure game due to his better mobility, but is easier to open up then Falco is.
Zero_OR 5 that’s true, but your forgetting about one mayor factor that makes Fox a far better pick. Parry. Falco has no way to deal with it and on top of that they are pretty free against falco. There’s a reason aMSa hits the most parries against Falco. Combined with superarmor things just get ugly for Falco. Falco’s only multi hit is u-air which seems pretty useless but correct me if I’m wrong. The key difference is fox’s drill which just straight up shits on everything Yoshi does. Hence why Mango couldn’t get it done with Falco but could with his fox which is worse than his Falco. Falco does edgeguard Yoshi alot better though but he has a horrible time going in on a Yoshi that can parry and use superarmor properly.
@@intothevoid3605 I am not forgetting that. I include drill when I am talking about pressure game. AmSa is finding ways out how to deal with drill, which you can see if you watch this match. Falco's reflector actually breaks Yoshi's armor early, but people aren't using that much in this matchup. Also Falco has a better time combo'ing and approaching Yoshi then Fox does. It gets ugly when Yoshi opems them both up. Mango mainly uses Falco more due to an event that happened years ago, though he is a good one. Also if you payed attention to the games Mango was using Fox with, AmSa wasn't getting destroyed, but it was very close.
Zero_OR 5 hard timing but you can indeed superarmor and then nair out of drill if ur fast. Yes I’m aware of the shine spike as it has been used against me a few times but it’s very easily countered and risky. What incident caused him to almost exclusively go Falco? Recently came back to melee. Still catching up. Only reason the games were so close is because Mango’s Fox is not what it used to be. Watch IBDW or Leffen vs aMSa. More accurate representations of the MU. Not saying Mango’s Fox is bad btw.
For all the ignorant facade he puts on, Mango's a great sport at the end of the day. Props for taking it well like always even missing out on top 8. Great set.
He never takes it tho, his Johns will always be "i was drunk and i really don't give a fuck if i win against these tryhards anymore since i already proved myself in the past". We all know he's salty that a lot of people caught up to his skill level but whatever, let the washed out dude use this as a defense mechanism.
@Morph Ball Fair enough, I don't use Twitter hardly ever so I can't speak to his online persona after sets, just that IRL he always seems to give his opponent props and helps them celebrate their wins in little ways instead of just lifeless fist bumps that most people throw out as a formality (and some don't even do that).
i think the Melee god term is overrated but aMSa is prolly the best Smash player who hasn't won a major. I would comfortably put him top 10 right now but he still hasn't won a tournament. Still I believe he is only getting better.
props to these commentators for giving good analysis about the more subtle interactions between the players, way too often commentators are just barely scratching the surface on whats happening on-screen.
7:408:43 How did Amsa Powershield that? he wavelanded to the platform, rolled to the edge of the platform, held shield and when falco touched him it seems that it auto-powershielded? how?!
aMSa is so fucking good at Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube. he and AxE are the protagonists - the nice guys that everybody loves, possibly crippling their overall performances by remaining loyal to the lower tier characters they love but defying all odds to be do it anyway.
Something has to be said about just how intense amsa's Yoshi looks, he is actually terrifying. Somehow, he makes that Yoshi look like it's at the same pace as one of the best Fox's (some argue the best) in the world.
Everytime I see this video thumbnail, I think that Yoshi is actually a rubber rooster bowing slightly forward, with it's big cartoon eyes rolling back into it's head.
Do any of you guys wonder how Amsa doesn't win the tournaments? If everytime he meets a god its so close? Who else can take amsa down? I don't see sfat (fox) or hugs beating amsa Lol who is eliminating amsa if not the gods.
This has to be the shittiest commentating ever. No respect for amsa. Oh Mang0 on his last stock he can still do this. Oh Mang0 still in this. Oh Mang0 this and mang0 that. My goodness. Even at the end, amsa clutches it. Clutches? What do you mean, they were back forth, neck and neck, toe to toe. Respect to both players. Great Match
So close to top 8 but I feel mango would of went to top 8 if he stuck with fox from the beginning. I feel as though he is burning on falco. Need to give your main or a character a break sometimes
Mango has to play so sick in order to beat amsa. Amsa is a perfect counter to Mangos aggressiveness. Mango had his most successes with patient up smashes
@@_counterspell its constantly not true pressure if he lands in front on mango's shield with an Arial he can be grabbed because Yoshi doeskin have that good of frame data
It's funny how where in the matches were Mang0 wins the video barely has dislikes and has like 400 likes but when AmSa wins the video will have over 40 dislikes
In a perfect world, this would be grand finals
Agreed, I was so sad to see this wasn't even top 8...
it probably will probably happen at least once at some point
no it would be axe vs amsa lol
*leans closer*
But this is not a perfect world....
@@comettitun8087 Sounds probable.
Amsa is the main character of melee rn. He freaking parried a drill.
Wayne Gee homie parried MULTIPLE drills. Talk about MU knowledge, he deserved the W
you cant parry a drill. You're either talking about him super armoring thru drill or him parrying a singular last hit of drill. in any case amsa is still nutz and a blessing for the game
@@habrosguitar that's what i mean
Tommy Habros you can parry a drill if the fox is close to the ground and the attack is canceled quickly.
Roger that, boys 👍
The madman counterpicked FD against Mang0's Fox. If that doesn't show that aMSa is here to win, I don't know what does.
Let's go aMSa!
Emm Bee Sea actually that’s a decent pick against fox. Against falco as yoshi not so much. aMSa hYpE
@@intothevoid3605 to be honest if the fox plays a laser/dair/grab uthrow heavy neutral like Sanne does...its a difficult task for the Yoshi even if the flat platformless stage that is FD, allows for combo heavy startups on the Yoshi's end...it still favors fox.
hes never really minded fd, hes done it for years, I believe he did it vs leffens fox which is much scarier
Fd against mang0 is pretty much a guaranteed win
aMSa: “I pray to win”
aMSA continuing to be the Smash hero Yoshi needs for several years strong
Amsa's movement is crazy and honestly underestimated. Same with his egg angles
Only a little bit. If Yoshi is mid tier instead of bottom 5, is almost solely because of Amsa and his new playstyle with Yoshi abusing the eggs; also the double jump super armor helps a lot against falco and fox, the Melee's faces.
@@N12015 Super armor and tournament results is why he's mid tier. AmSa's mastery show's the character is something above that IMO. Also, I've heard that on TAS level the only character that can keep up with Fox is Yoshi.
Amsa's movement is fucking insane
side b is the bane of mango's existence this tournament
What the hell was that side b at the end of the game.....
GreatstarO9 seriously he was so off
@@greatstaro9255 If you're so good go there and feel no pressure as you're being owned by a top 10 player and show us how easy it's supposed to be
@@CosmosProvider because you're not allowed to comment on a bad mistake by someone who definitely shouldn't have made it, right
Damn this was an intense set.
Mango used to be AmSa's bracket demon, but starting at the end of last year to now AmSa has been adapting to him.
I hope he keeps going.
Also helps that mango primarily uses falco these days. Fox yoshi is a real pain in the ass for yoshi
@@intothevoid3605 I think both have their strengths and weaknesses for Yoshi.
Falco has the better approach options and has better options to deal with Yoshi's armor, but gets edge guarded easier.
Fox has the better recovery and pressure game due to his better mobility, but is easier to open up then Falco is.
Zero_OR 5 that’s true, but your forgetting about one mayor factor that makes Fox a far better pick. Parry. Falco has no way to deal with it and on top of that they are pretty free against falco. There’s a reason aMSa hits the most parries against Falco. Combined with superarmor things just get ugly for Falco. Falco’s only multi hit is u-air which seems pretty useless but correct me if I’m wrong. The key difference is fox’s drill which just straight up shits on everything Yoshi does. Hence why Mango couldn’t get it done with Falco but could with his fox which is worse than his Falco. Falco does edgeguard Yoshi alot better though but he has a horrible time going in on a Yoshi that can parry and use superarmor properly.
@@intothevoid3605 I am not forgetting that. I include drill when I am talking about pressure game.
AmSa is finding ways out how to deal with drill, which you can see if you watch this match.
Falco's reflector actually breaks Yoshi's armor early, but people aren't using that much in this matchup.
Also Falco has a better time combo'ing and approaching Yoshi then Fox does.
It gets ugly when Yoshi opems them both up.
Mango mainly uses Falco more due to an event that happened years ago, though he is a good one.
Also if you payed attention to the games Mango was using Fox with, AmSa wasn't getting destroyed, but it was very close.
Zero_OR 5 hard timing but you can indeed superarmor and then nair out of drill if ur fast. Yes I’m aware of the shine spike as it has been used against me a few times but it’s very easily countered and risky. What incident caused him to almost exclusively go Falco? Recently came back to melee. Still catching up. Only reason the games were so close is because Mango’s Fox is not what it used to be. Watch IBDW or Leffen vs aMSa. More accurate representations of the MU. Not saying Mango’s Fox is bad btw.
6:49 they were in rhythm with the song
What an amazing set. This is what melee is all about. Well played and great run to Mango. Good luck in Top 8 aMSa!
Two if my favorites for sure, this was an awesome set
I'm surprised AMSa is up 3-0 against Mang0 this year. Great to see the Fox, though!
3-0? Where did he win outside of Genesis and here?
Wait nvm he won at SnS, I forgot
Maybe wit MaNg0 Puff?!
@@strawhats100 Who knows, might as well try it!
Mango’s washed.
Their matches are so explosive, always going back and forth
It's really fun.
For all the ignorant facade he puts on, Mango's a great sport at the end of the day.
Props for taking it well like always even missing out on top 8. Great set.
He never takes it tho, his Johns will always be "i was drunk and i really don't give a fuck if i win against these tryhards anymore since i already proved myself in the past".
We all know he's salty that a lot of people caught up to his skill level but whatever, let the washed out dude use this as a defense mechanism.
@Morph Ball Fair enough, I don't use Twitter hardly ever so I can't speak to his online persona after sets, just that IRL he always seems to give his opponent props and helps them celebrate their wins in little ways instead of just lifeless fist bumps that most people throw out as a formality (and some don't even do that).
@@dio4296 >washed out
>top 10
come the fuck on dude
@Morph Ball i think its time to stop using twitter then
orange sunflower He should be top 5 for being a God, imo. We all know we’d rather see mang0 winning tourneys though
I fear no person, but that aMSa... he scares me.
If i made this comment, i'll replace person with fox and aMSa with yoshi
Meet the heavy (Yoshi/aMSa)
16:37 great conversion on the handshake
Favorite rivalry in Melee, ever since Apex these guys have been giving us some nail biter sets.
Mango side-b-ing from the ledge like it's 2004
He felt pressured and made mistakes, is that so surprising when you're against Amsa and fighting for your spot in top 8?
@@CosmosProvider chill
9:02
What a bad tongue
Amsa is a god. Could you imagine beating mango period? But then doing it with yoshi? Unreal
And beating Hbox with Yoshi multiple times...
Amsa god gamer
i think the Melee god term is overrated but aMSa is prolly the best Smash player who hasn't won a major. I would comfortably put him top 10 right now but he still hasn't won a tournament. Still I believe he is only getting better.
props to these commentators for giving good analysis about the more subtle interactions between the players, way too often commentators are just barely scratching the surface on whats happening on-screen.
7:40 8:43
How did Amsa Powershield that? he wavelanded to the platform, rolled to the edge of the platform, held shield and when falco touched him it seems that it auto-powershielded? how?!
imo its actually a shield drop double jump cancel upair waveland, but dont quote me on that
Aren’t there name ludvix and papa Johns
Nothing sends you into the frenzy of mixed emotions like a close set of melee between two loveable titans.
Hmmmmmm good times.
aMSa is so fucking good at Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube. he and AxE are the protagonists - the nice guys that everybody loves, possibly crippling their overall performances by remaining loyal to the lower tier characters they love but defying all odds to be do it anyway.
やっぱDXのスピード感は見てて面白いな
That last hard read of the side b from ledge from amsa was NUTZZZZ. Hate to see mango lose but amsa is nasty
Yoshi looks high tier.
Yo why do they make Yoshi hit the akuma pose though??
9:17 was that a phantom shied poke?
very rarely do I see Mang0 get out-skilled. pretty often do I see Mang0 get out-disciplined.
16:20 wtf was that?
lets go amsa, nice job man
Alongside Hungrybox, Amsa is my favorite solo-main. No question. This was an absolute work of art.
Does anyone know of a reason mango never shinestalls?
Is that the one mango was supposed to win? Cause it looks like amsa won. A lot!
One of the years best set's.
Hated to see any of them lose but Amsa still needs hungrybox.
Around 9:15 phantom shield poke
Look at that clench win. Amsa next big thing of melee
Something has to be said about just how intense amsa's Yoshi looks, he is actually terrifying. Somehow, he makes that Yoshi look like it's at the same pace as one of the best Fox's (some argue the best) in the world.
8:25 footstool in melee
At the end they tried to make a fist bump and then turned it into a handshake. That made me laugh
What do you think amsa was listening to?
What a fantastic set. Good on both players!
Honestly my new favorite melee set
this set is so fucking hype
9:02 I didn’t know his grab range was THAT bad lol
Amsa makes yoshi look top 3 in the game
🥭Mang0 Nation🥭
Fox McCloud
Crabs nor foxes are gonna save you from HIM...
*P P M D*
Did someone clip that hand...shake? Lol
You tried, Mango... Zain into Amsa is a tough bracket draw. Upwards and onwards
2:07 egg
Everytime I see this video thumbnail, I think that Yoshi is actually a rubber rooster bowing slightly forward, with it's big cartoon eyes rolling back into it's head.
Incredible matches. I love how aMSa make Yoshi be hi tier.
Amsa is all kinds of savage
nair = feelsbadman
Do any of you guys wonder how Amsa doesn't win the tournaments? If everytime he meets a god its so close? Who else can take amsa down? I don't see sfat (fox) or hugs beating amsa Lol who is eliminating amsa if not the gods.
This has to be the shittiest commentating ever. No respect for amsa. Oh Mang0 on his last stock he can still do this. Oh Mang0 still in this. Oh Mang0 this and mang0 that. My goodness. Even at the end, amsa clutches it. Clutches? What do you mean, they were back forth, neck and neck, toe to toe. Respect to both players. Great Match
Watching incredibly hype Yoshi shit makes me want to pick up Yoshi. Then I play him for 5 minutes and realize he feels like shit.
What a time to be alive.
Wow I felt like he could of tried to come back again that last moment of the game
Amazing Grand Finals!!
Good set. It's funny to see Mango nervous at the end of the set like that!
The yoshi is red from drawing blood not color choice
So close to top 8 but I feel mango would of went to top 8 if he stuck with fox from the beginning. I feel as though he is burning on falco. Need to give your main or a character a break sometimes
Mang0 should have hugged aMSa! We all know aMSa would have hugged if he lost.
still watching amsa love it
これは本当に凄い
That yoshi render on the thumbnail is a little cursed ngl
Is this the same Mango that’s a patron of Easy Allies?
Not to john but mang0s bracket was unlucky af. Loses to zain and amsa, 2 people he struggles with.
At least he didn't get double eliminated by wobblers to get #13. RIP Axe. :(
@@Dlord1PlayStation that sucks too man
@ ehhhh. It use to be a hype character but something went weong
@@kevinnguyen8631 right? I feel like once pewpewu went under the radar the only non cheezy Marth I see is Spud
Kevin Nguyen besides grabbing ledge every second, mewtwoking marth was always awesome
Guy sounds like a walrus when he laughs.
No he laughs just like Seth Rogen lol
Lol
mango should probably try respecting amsa just a little bit.
I love watching Fox lose. Sorry Mango.
i never thought id see the day when fendy wasnt the annoying half of the commentary duo
Mango has to play so sick in order to beat amsa. Amsa is a perfect counter to Mangos aggressiveness. Mango had his most successes with patient up smashes
Amsa: The only thing still exciting about Melee
Set of the year
Been telling this man to go Fox vs. Amsa since Genesis 6. Little too late mang
Amsa LEVELS above Mango in this day an age in melee's life. A king must fall.
I want to say Mango's strongest attribute is his recovery
What a stupid end to a great match. Lol that is so Mang0-Amsa
Yoshi's nair is better than some character's whole movesets
That armor on Yoshi's double jump shenanigans looks miserable to deal with.
Honestly mango didn't use fox lasers almost at all when amsa was on the other side of the stage and he could have shield grabbed amsa several times
Shield grab is kind of out of style at top tables for some reason
@@_counterspell it shouldn't be against Yoshi as his shield pressure sucks
@@adwardosa5575 did you watch amsa this set? Check that pressure out. Pretty consistent
@@_counterspell its constantly not true pressure if he lands in front on mango's shield with an Arial he can be grabbed because Yoshi doeskin have that good of frame data
@@adwardosa5575 lol okay. I'd suggest watching the matches and actual play patterns instead of trying to argue about frame data
that was such a fucking sick set
14:09
Amsa: Egg
Mango:
that one commentators laugh was getting me tight
MANGO NATION FOX MCLOUD
MANGO NATION FOX MCCLOUD
MANGO NATION FOX MCCLOUD
MANGO NATION FOX MCCLOUD
MANGO NATION FOX MCCLOUD
PPMD FALCO LOMBARDI
11:10
How I laugh when someone compliments me
I had no idea that was Yoshi in the thumbnail....
Mang0 really lost this from side-b onto stage. Bro really? I know ur under serious pressure but dear lord man.
On god, that picture of Yoshi in the thumbnail confused the hell out of me I thought it was a monster/alien
Yoshis movement makes no sense to me, I love watching AMSA play still 3 years later.
ファルコ復帰弱いの難点やね
あむささんとゾーマミューツー
おもろすぎ
9:00
わろた
16:22 😱
Amsa imo is by far the most fun player to watch.
Amsa is great, he makes Yoshi look like a top tier
Lol what : O why hasn't this set ever been in my life?
So tired of mango losing to amsa
Same
so tired of all these mango fanboys
man the hoes mad meme got old fast. Don't be annoying, people are allowed to be disappointed and this person isn't even being negative towards amsa
It's funny how where in the matches were Mang0 wins the video barely has dislikes and has like 400 likes but when AmSa wins the video will have over 40 dislikes