Ultimate Shop Air System
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2022
- It's been a long time coming but I abandon my underground air tank and installed a bigger and
better system. Round vs square concrete stakes here: • Square vs. Round Concr...
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tank!
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Functionally operates just as it should ruclips.net/user/postUgkxiiMg_x4gIWeXMWfBnDdRnME4qJUAva4w holds pressure perfectly when not in use. Glad one of the other reviews pointed out that the bottom pressure release valve was open; thought it was defective at first.
I know it would be a lot of work but an autopsy on the old tank would be something I would love to see. Potential failures and what not.
Me too!!!
great idea!
Same here!
Ha, well he might want some help digging if you want to see it that bad!
Take it out to the desert with a few engineers and test it to destruction...
Word from someone who used to make blast resistant fighting positions- instead of filling with grout, fill with sand. Sand will help disipate the force through shock seperatiin, grout can inside the wall can become its own shrapnel as it has no way to spread an impact or detonation. Same reason we use hesco barriers filled with sand for perimeters in combat zones. The sand will get thrown everuwhere, but wont cause harm.
There is no doubt about it. Hescos really do make a difference, and they're bullet-proof too.
Im glad I read this comment before I asked why Scott didnt fill every cell with mortar. The sand idea is just one of things ya would not think of unless you have "been there and done that"! Wonderful sugestion!!!! What are your thoughts on filling the open cells with sand?
@The Kikendall - either that or pack sandbags between the block wall and the shop; if the tank should rupture the sandbags should adsorb the blast that the blocks don't. I.M.H.O. :)
@@HighDesertForgeIronworks the best option now, right? And then you also have filled sandbags handy if there’s a flood.
Brilliant. I learn from others, and some times myself.
There are a whole lot of things I didn't know how to do before I tried to do them. The willingness to fail a time or two definitely helps. I also enjoy RUclips for this. I call it getting "RUclips Certified". If I don't know how to do something, there's usually somebody on YT who can tell me where to start, and what to look for. Then I have a fighting chance at doing something correctly.
People always think the worst. Your correct nothing bad is going to happen,stay positive. Sounds like to me you've got it all figured out,I bet the grand kids really enjoy watching you make things.
I once worked in a shop whose airlines were plumbed with pvc. The fire marshal made us rip it all out and use galvanized pipe because of the fire hazard and noxious fumes associated with the pvc if there was a fire. The galvanized pipe was definitely better. No more blowouts. I hope the PEX airlines stay together for you. Love the channel.
Pro tip for block and brick laying….. best thing for pointing is a 5” length of regular garden hose. It leaves a perfect concave joint and you can wipe it clean afterwards
This is my favorite part of youtube..... tip and tricks
Ha... that's like a slap on the fore head "why didn't I think of that" kinda tip... cheaper than harbor freight and lasts longer too lol.
Is great content as always Scott. One hint I can give you is that my dad always kept an old traffic cone in the truck so when we had to fill concrete wall forms that were narrow 4" or less or or block wall we would tip the cone upside down and have a nice big funnel to be able to pour from a bucket. He had it cut the end off so that it was actually like a 3" funnel and worked great, not sure what happened to it but that thing worked forever and we never wore out.
Great idea. I'm about to run some block for a green house foundation.
Well it's not as if cones are hard to get hold of :)
Would love to see an interview with the man who certifies locomotive boilers! What an interesting career to get into.
No shit, very specific field lol
I'm honestly surprised there is enough work for these niche-specific jobs in the trades.
Not, really, just hard dirty work.
Those videos are on YT, they don't get much views, but they are out there.
@@nickk4010enough to make a living. I've been doing it for almost three decades.
The local dive shop, where I lived in NZ, had the tank stood on end. It was a massively built item. Working pressure was close to four thousand psi for recharging steel diving tanks. One day the top of the tank blew off and the resulting release of pressure blew out the side of the building but a blast wall deflected most of the blast away from workers. The cylinder top went up through the roof and was found half a mile away. Could have been a tragedy but for the correct installation. Great content in your channel! 👍
Lucky the tank top didn't kill anyone when it fell, must have gone at least a half mile up, it it moved half a mile laterally.
@@Nevir202 . It was deflected slightly sideways when it clipped a roof I-beam. This was the the opinion of the marine department (used to be a government department)when they did their investigation.
low pressure systems will not have the same effect. 120 PSI is not a bomb waiting to happen. 2000 PSI is another story.
@@Stan_in_Shelton_WA Try 3000psi or so for most tanks
Fellow blacksmith here :)
I wrap all my air fittings with Hercules Megatape and then give em a wipe down with Hercules Megaloc pipe dope. It's been working well for me. There was a buy one get one free sale (or something like that) at Lowes last time I needed pipe tape. I'm happy with it. It's good tape.
Most of my fittings are done on air tools and I don't want to torque them down enough that pipe dope on it's own does the job.
Buy a borescope. They are extremely cheap on Amazon. Mine plugs into my phone. I use it for all kinds of stuff. Checking inside walls, plumbing, compressor tanks, engines, etc. I paid under $20 for it and I've had it for about 6 or 7 years. It's waterproof, too.
If you're ever concerned with a compressor tank, fill it COMPLETELY with water. No air allowed (well, not a lot of air, anyway). Hook a high pressure gage and a pressure washer to the tank. Use the pressure washer to get the tank up to 600 PSI. No rupture and you're good for 200 PSI. If you're VERY paranoid, go to 800 PSI.
Water is not compressible, so there is very little potential energy stored in the pressure vessel in this state. Most of the potential energy will elasticity in the hoses and in the steel tank, itself.
Scott... you are the grandfather I never had. I am the black sheep of my family and became a tradesman. Because of your videos over the past four years I have turned myself around from a failing at a career in Healthcare into an accomplished trades person. You give more than technical and practical advice from your videos. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart sir.
Don't forget that many black sheep arent the black sheep, they just think that. Families are made up of people and people generally think about themselves. They arent thinking about you at all let a lone what a screw up you are. Families are also kust a construct so if you aren't getting the treatment you deserve get out of there. You dont owe anyone anything just because they are family
Please tell Ken , Sam said Hey from the Appalachian mountains of N.C. ! He's a true Hero to all of us !
The pipe wrench and come-along trick is definitely something my Dad and I have done on the farm...and it seems like something Phil would do too. Necessity is the mother of invention.
I've also seen that in the forklift industry..
Might have to tell my mechanics that trick - not sure if the safety department will approve though
@@jk3dad safety squints and keeping your mother on speed dial are recommended.
8' of pipe on the end of that wrench might have done the trick as well.
@@aspees
Yup, that's all I used for jobs like that.
I am a Diesel Tech, and when I have a tight fitting or bolt I will get my hammer and tap/strike the end of the handle of my wrench to knock the fitting loose. Much safer that yanking or exerting tremendous force in case it loosens all of a sudden.
I repair electrical motors, overall elektromechanical maintenance on industrial gear and we do full revisions and repairs of reduction cases and other machines.
The technical tap is standard, but if it really doesn’t want to come off you bring out the 55ton hydraulic ram lol.
We have used 15ton hydraulic enerpacs (lever actuated, so basically a jack) to loosen shit up as well. Was probably one of the more sketchy things, as it could have sent the wrench flying. It was a 95mm slogging spanner. If that took off it would take ur skull with it 💀
If just brute force doesn’t do the trick. A oxy-acetylene torch is never far away 🤷♂️
This channel gets me so emotional some times. The idea of these two "boys" playing together at their age. Its good to see good male friendships.
What is so impressive is the number of skills that are demonstrated on this channel. This reminds me of a friend who was from the first part of the baby boomer generation. It is amazing the number of skills that were obtained by the common folk of that era.
Had the ultimate air tank at the large slaughter house that I worked at. They had a railroad siding off the main track and purchased a maybe 75' long tanker car They installed this giant tank outdoors and feed it with 300 to 350 HP of air compressors. Had 6" pipe coming off it to feed a loop around kill floor. When there was no production on a Saturday would fill the tank up to 140 PSI then shut all of the air compressors off. Could run several air tools for hours before pressure dropped too low to run them. Tank was pitched so we made sure to open drain up every Saturday at end of workday. Tried using air pressure to blow ground up bones & guts into large cookers but did not have enough power but 125# of steam did a great job blowing stuff a few hundred feet to cookers. We always had two pressure valves on every large air storage tanks just in case one failed to operate properly. OSHA made companies greatly reduce the output pressure on hand held air guns. The old ones were very dangerous in that they would remove the paint off of surfaced and give you a nice scrape. Would treat these old air guns like gold. The timer drain is the best automatic tank drain. Saw too many float type clog up stop working. Nice vid. Great ideal using galvanised pipe instead of cheaper black pipe that produces too much internal rust.
That is so cool.
I admire their ingenuity
Damn. I need 3 of those.
Had a good chuckle at "the only good use for a round concrete stake" portion of the video. Great work! Keep it up!
You sir are the epitome of a true family man, and that is one big ass air tank. Nice work on the install Scott.
While it is rare to have pressure vessels fail, they fail catastrophically. Something that big, whoaboy lol
@@justtime6736 if done properly there is a low chance of a catastrophical failure.
My dad was a good guy, but not very mechanically inclined. My dad used to teach me about life, friends, education and music...
I just wanted to tell you Essential Craftsmen there are probably alot of young men out there who didn't have a dad or lost their did like I did and appreciate your content so very much.
boys and girls, men and women, we can all learn something from this humble, kind, well spoken and gentle craftsmen. Thanks for all that you do EC
Glad to see that pex get tied down.
WHEN that stuff breaks under the constant strain of compressed air, it'll beat the snot out of you before you can get away if it's just left to drop in a single run from the ceiling.
As usual
great work EC.
I just love these folks, and I love the home-grown self-taught do-it-all personalities that made this country great.
You sir with the pipe wrench and hand winch brought back a memory with my grandfather doing something similar. That was cool. Necessity creates invention.
I work on air compressors that run 24/7. The auto drain is a great idea; I recommend laying it over so that liquids do not have to travel uphill to purge. I’ve had oils get stuck in such a “trap” before and it caused nasty clogs that I had to take the unit out of service to clear.
10:10 No no no, Scott. That's EXACTLY how we would do it 😂👏👏👏
Pex makes a wonderful, and safe, shop air system.
He scared me for a minute and I thought it was PVC right before he started talking. I've heard and seen that go wrong before.
The measure of a craftsman's ability is not what he knows, but how he improvises in the face of what he doesn't know.
Essential Craftsman is a true American hero.
Amen!
Air compressor technician here, pex gets very brittle after exposure to the oil vapor from a portable comp. Yes there is a separator but without a coalescing filter and an activated charcoal filter it will still send oil downstream
Is that just with a portable compressor like he has or is that with normal compressors too? I want to put my compressor in the basement and run pex tube through the wall, is that going to be a safety issue?
@@imtired8004 get the blue air line system, come in straight and flexible lengths. i used pex for a couple years, 1st year no worries. but every year after that the anxiety grows because you know its not the right thing to do haha. luckily i never had a problem and ran it for about 3 years.
i think i used rapid air products, there are a few companies. worth the money, easy, doesnt leak and never have to worry... and if you move you can take it apart and re-use it.
That's what I was thinking. He just created another bomb
@@imtired8004 if you put a coalescing filter before the pex it would probably be fine especially if you dont use it a lot. if its a hour or two every other weekend you could probably get away with it but i would still be mindful of it getting brittle over time
Great work as usual Scott!
And thanks for reading the comments and actually taking some of the ideas to heart, so many guys on this platform seem to think they know it all, you are a wise humble guy.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Stu
Mr. Scott, just a quick FYI. Your big Sawzall/recip saw makes for a great, quick substitute when you need a vibrator for small concrete project! Take out the blade, touch the guide to a wooden surface and squeeze that trigger! Voila! Vibrator sub.
Looking forward to seeing how the new carpentry shop turns out! Good days to you and yours, sir!
Glad to see your being supervised in your wall building endeavours.
On the one hand, I like seeing Scott do a project on his own. On the other hand, I don't like seeing Scott work alone. Glad Kenny is there. I see you Ken.
I just one hour ago poured a small motorcycle ramp. I picked up some rotten boards and more or less "hemmed " in the concrete. Looks awful but will work, and my wife likes it. Having poured concrete and done things perfect for other people, I am now too worn down to do it right for me. You did a good job laying blocks. The sharp edge of a 24" 2x4 or a 16p nail head sticking out of said 2x4 will work fine for jointing blocks. Good job. I noticed your inspector was there, also. My inspector has been with me 45 yrs. Best wishes. Boofer
Add an automotive muffler to your air intake on compressor. Cut your noise in half. Make sure you put a functional or new pop valve ( pressure relief valve) on compressor to avoid over pressuring system
Be a bit hard to do on an atlas copco diesel air compressor- the compressors near silent the 2 cylinder (likely deutz) makes all the noise as the compressors a rotary screw
Can't he also just use a smaller compressor?
@@aayotechnology its all about the consumption in his power hammer - a smaller compressor would technically run it but it would be far slower and become impractical to use - we have a 2 ton casing hammer at work that requires approx. 200 cfm at 100 psi to cycle 50 times a minute - and thats only relying on air to lift 400mm (16inches) and uses gravity for its drop - we can use a smaller compressor in a pinch but she gets real slow reaaaalllllll fast and requires adjustments to its timing system to cope
My father passed away 5 years ago at the age of 94. On the farm we had a 400 foot water well that had some flamable gas in the water! Dad drilled and tapped a gas line from the water tank to the gas furnance to heat the shop! One day as he was lighting the furnance it dawned on him this could be BAD! If there was a leak. He removed all plumbing and plugged everything off. Yes you made me think about my father, like you did in this video, he fixed it before it blew up.. :)
You’re always so precise with everything you do. It’s fun to watch you “wing it” a bit on this project.
An 'air system' that does not leak down is a delight! I used to have a Craftsman 220V compressor and that rascal would hold air for months! I miss that guy!! SO good to see KENNY!! Cheers!
5:08 - I really appreciate hearing this it is so true. I have a successful side business as a carpenter and handyman and I do nearly everything because of not being afraid of trying new things over the years. One of the things I found is if you are good with your hands have a good understanding on how things work motivation to learn and try new things you can basically do anything and be pretty good at it the first time. The more you learn to do the better understanding that spills over into other things. Like a friend says about everything "its not rocket science"
You just have to be careful about knowing just enough to be dangerous.
@@OU81TWO I always keep that in mind whether I do new jobs or jobs Ive done a hundred times. If anyone doesn't they have become complacent and will get bit in the ass.
" It's not rocket science"
Let me guess,your friends name is CMac?
I'm in Washington and Oregon's law are very similar. I have 2 air tanks at my work and i have the state come and do the required inspections every 2 years as required. If i recall it's for any pressure vessel over 60 or 80 gallons, business or personal. The inspector comes with a little thickness meter and takes a half dozen measurements of the tank wall thickness and slaps a sticker on them if they pass. It doesn't cost much at all, keeps the bossiness in compliance and keeps everyone safe.
The pipe wrench with the come-along is just too awesome, now that was fun to learn right there.
Imagine working long enough to amass this much knowledge….then living long enough to incorporate it into these kind of projects for you own swan song shop. Legend.
After seeing everything you have available to you and the knowledge you possess, I am so glad to hear that you have future generations you can pass that on to.
Outstanding.. such a great video.. thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us.
Love your stuff! Glad to see even someone as crafty as you have areas where you don't feel like you're the best at it! I'd say it turned out great!
You posted this in a very timely manner for me personally. I’m trying to upgrade my shop air right now and it’s proving to be an expensive endeavor
Same
You're channel and the work you do is inspiring. Please don't stop. Thank you!
Very impressed with your com along method of removing the pip fitting. Ive used a long length of 2 inch pipe to do the same for years but your method is a lot safer.
Nicely done! It was a pleasure watching you work. 🙂
Good job working the edges on that pad you poured. I seldom see anyone doing that. It certainly helps to have nice looking edges when you remove the boards. Nice job on the block work. I learned by watching my Dad, then by doing my own jobs. You are right, try doing it and learn.
This plumber was impressed with your ingenuity
I just want to say that really enjoy watching your videos and has helped me in my day to day job.
I appreciate you Sir!
For the record, come-along’s are definitely meant for pipe wrenches. I’ve had opposing 36’s on a 3” threaded union using a come-along to keep tension while I used a torch and hammer on the nut. You make do with what you’ve got.
I always wondered why they had the big hole in end. Seemed a bit oversized for hanging it on a wall. Apparently, the pipe wrench manufacturer's know someone will want to put a come along on the end of the wrench.
Good evening. I watch all your videos and thoroughly enjoyed every one. Your audio is perfect because you speak so well and your content is excellent.
Joe. South Africa
Good idea with adding a timed dryer/drain to the tank. I noticed a ball valve upstream of the timed valve which is a very good addition. If the noise is bothersome one can gate the ball valve a bit to make it a little more quiet. In addition to the noise the water will evacuate more completely at a slower rate. It seems counterintuitive however it seems to be the case. Great video as always, thank you for the content.
I watch often, but rarely comment. I really appreciate your statements about just rolling up your sleeves getting in there and doing it! I have learned so much that way over the years. I'm just a few years shy of you age-wise, but I have as much enthusiasm for taking on new skills and challenges as I did when I was a teenage boy. Thank you for reawakening that in me, Scott! 👍🙏
Someone told me that when things go wrong it is just a learning moment. Have had lots of learning moments as I try different projects.
I'm glad you did it! You won't regret it.
I'm a retired Journeyman Nuclear Grade Steamfitter Weldor out of Plumbers & Steamfitters Local Union 598 Pasco Washington. When I saw you with that rigging setup I just smiled and remembered what a Journeyman told me as a first year apprentice.. " Work smarter not harder, these tools will do all the work for you if you use them"! LOL! Nothing to be ashamed of good job!
i’m a real pipefitter and i say work smarter not harder. and a come along on a Pipe wrench is a great idea!! YEE YEE!!
Your joy is infectious... thanks for sharing, that made my day,
Love it Sir!!!!!!!! God Bless you, your family, your grandkids, this community, all the newcomers !!!!!!!
Awesome vessel and awesome job on that blockwork too!
One thing to remember, it is the ends of pressure vessels that usually fail. I would personally make a "blow off" patch above the tank in the roof. How do you plan to seismically support the tank so it does not tip over in a seismic event? Here in Seattle, we would have to bolt the tank to the slab.
Thank you, thank you…for making this all inclusive video. I thought it was gonna be a 3-4 part video. (Which I understand) but thank you for making 1-video. Love it!
Truly an impressive project! And I love the protection for your shop, family and friends.
As I watched you struggle with the street L in the top of the tank I was hoping you would chase the threads where all the plumbing was to go. It's just something I would enjoy doing. So I hoped you would. To make everything fresh.
Thanks very much for more shop video, and for including Ken. And I even enjoyed the mention of Phil.
Am eager now for the next episode.
Compressed air is no joke.
Nice job, impressed.
Next thing i would suggest. Pour a Concrete Floor in that shop! My god that would make me insane trying to work on stuff and not having a good solid floor!
One of the proudest days of my life was setting up my 80gallon 17.8 cfm at 170psi an that was to run pneumatic car detailing equipment among other things but never thought of a water tank for extra capacity. Always learning something from this channel.
you can also use 4ft propane tanks - you can be sure they are pressure tested. i used to have one on wheels to roll outside
Excellent work, sir. I have a fairly large air tank that causes me undue stress as well. A blast wall is on my list of things to do.
What a great find. Very nice idea. Hopefully you guys get great use out of it for many years to come my friends. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.
I spent 5 years OTR and all my tools were in storage. I then moved. Three years and still haven’t had time to organize a work area in the garage of my new home. Tools are in storage bins and I spend more time looking for them than some projects require to do. It’s defeating and I end up not doing anything. However, as I get things set up little at at time, I can appreciate the small advances in organization. Your striker issue reminds me of this .today I locked myself out of my house. I could have used my grinder to make a tool to unlock the latch in the garage door. But have no idea where my grinder is. I need to make a work bench to mount my grinder. So pop-a-lock got $50 today.
The only exploding receiver tank I ever encountered was a little portable homeowner unit left plugged in while not in use. The shutoff failed and in the owner's absence pumped up until the tank until it burst doing severe damage to the building. To pressure test a vessel in unknown condition, fill it within a quart of air volume with water, rig a 600 pound pressure gauge to the line pumping into the mystery vessel, disconnect the little compressor's shutoff and bypass the tank. 40 years ago I did that with a 82 gallon tank from a salvage yard. Took the pressure up a bit over 300 psi which made it tick and creak. After 30 years under pressure the tank failed with a pinhole leak where the condensate pooled. That's how fraidy-cat po'boys do it.
A job well done! Thanks for the idea of using pex to get air around my shop someday. Looking forward to the grandkid blacksmithing videos.
Another great video. You are a very knowledgeable and productive man.
Wow that was a lot of work. Great looking install, makes my muscles hurt just watching.
Wholesome, honest content from a wholesome and honest man. Thank you, too!
Awesome job fixing something that was dangerous before it reared its ugly head. Seems like air tank safety has been highlighted on RUclips a lot lately, which is excellent.
Your block work is top notch. Rodding the grout, bond beams and not too much mortar projecting into the cell.
Mr. Scott Wadsworth... you are the man! I'm envious of your shop space.
Wow scott, lots of good work youve accomplished! Good job, keep it up!
Love Scott's ingenuity, comment about just doing something that you don't know how to do - you'll learn to get good at it. Just started some sheet metal work and point taken.
I like watching people work. But watching someone watching someone working is a new one for me. :-)
Love this video. A bit less certainty than the spec house series made it more relatable to me. Everything I do with tools in my garage & house is not my day job. Seeing you do something while figuring it out was more fun 😊.
What a fantastic project! Learnt a lot by watching your puzzle this one out.
its really fun to watch this around your shop!
I appreciate this timer drain, it's really awesome, we usually install omega air td16 for our customers, it already have ball valve for mesh filter service. Hope yours have it too, because practice says that drains installed on open-weather conditions receivers needs to be maintained more often than indoor ones. Btw, I'll recommend to install drainage tube or hose on that, to prevent water splashing everywhere.
Pressure relief valves and periodic testing set your mind at ease.
Ur amazing!!!!
Have enjoyed watching u over the last few years
Your son must be very proud of you as I’m sure you are of him
now that's a video. Everything one would expect from a Chanel called "Essential Craftsman". Loved the informative intro and the meat and potatoes "work b-roll" in the middle. Good job guys
You are right on if you have never done a task just do it. That’s what I did on laying brick took me and a buddy a long time to complete but very satisfying.🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸
What a great project to follow along on. Very fun and exciting video! Thank you
That come along use was absolutely spot on!
Thank you for all the how knowledge that you pass along to me.
I like the idea of a blast wall,any tank new or old being cycled can go boom. We built a air system like this using four 80 gallon compressor s that had died for many reasons,plumbed the tank in two pairs for the two shops and fed them with a smaller 60 gallon two stage,never run out of air in the mechanism shop or the wood shop. Bigger supply lines help alot to cool air lines down.
Even the essential craftsman has to be an essential apprentice at the start of learning a new skill.
Thank YOU Scott, for recognizing the potential danger that any compressed air receiver can be. Great job on the installation, new relief valve, and auto tank drain. I am very paranoid about air receivers. And I'm even more paranoid about folks that refuse to take them as a potential serious threat. Nice job!
Luckily when my grandfather's old air compressor tank failed, it just developed a small leak...enough to warn me hey its time to retire the old Speed Aire compressor from the 60's or 70's LOL. It still works, but the tank leaks...I'd love to find a replacement tank some day...I've even thought about finding a compressor that the motor or the compressor pump itself was shot and putting the old one on that, but really haven't paid much attention to Craigslist lately.
You could make a space shuttle in your shop. You win. You have the best toys.
Thanks for your humility and wisdom.
Nice... I love welding blankets! Loosely hung they stop an amazing amount of shrapnel...