I ride speed rackers and I don't lean far back with feet far forward but if you've ever ridden speed rackers you know once they are in speed each horse is framed and moving different and you have to find the position of comfort at each speed. I'm talking about with the head set, not forward and with a neutral body, not an inverted one. You're showed as your first horse a speed racker. That position is actually very balanced when traveling at 25 mph. So some horses have a lot of elevation and their butt will be tucked very low. Nobody's trying to "get gait" in that ride. They are riding in the position that is comfortable at that speed. It's kind of like when you see jockeys on Thoroughbreds leaning one way. They don't ride like that when slow... only at speed. So unless one has ridden and trained speed rackers going over 20 mph you can't possibly determine the correct position because each horse is different. Sometimes I might lean forward and stand up a little at speed and at other times I might tuck my butt and lean my legs forward , all depending on the horse.
Thank you, Ivy, for this video on rider position. I have a dressage background and trail ride my TWH in a dressage saddle also. Just want to mention that I ride in a Heather Moffett FlexEE VSD saddle and it is the most balanced, comfortable saddle I've ever ridden in. You could be a total beginner and still ride in the correct position with this saddle. I love it. I'm not associated with HM, just a happy rider! My mare loves it, too.
@@cattymajiv Mountain Horse. Used to encompass both mountain horse breeds, RMH (Rocky Mountain Horse) and MPH (Mountain Pleasure Horse). The whole purpose of using acronyms is to not have to type out the whole thing every time. There’s no reason to hate their use. Just ask if you aren’t familiar with them.
THANK YOU IVY! This is what I have been waiting to hear! This is Very validating on what I felt was truly best for the horse and rider. I was soooo confused by the unbalanced way of riding when I was learning about gaited horses!
Hey Ivy, I have a Ortho flex endurance saddle, I have use that for my TWH, Gelding 18 hands. A woundful running walk, I love it. He had a long back, never had any problems with the saddle. I look into the plantation saddles, and they are very much alike. Let me know your thoughts. Thank you for your help and clinics for the gaited community.
@@IvyS yes it is a very heavy bit. I have a Robarts I bought for my MFT with a low palate. She hates it so it's on a peg in the tack room. I've used it with the reins in the direct reining position and she's still hated it. I use a grazing bit on her now with a low port.
Just learning about gaited horses I've ridden Hunter jumpers my whole life and now I am working with a paint cross with Tennessee w alker who is very sensitive and very sweet and was likely abused. Can these horses trot canter, jump or is it just a walk that they do I've only been walking him learning to communicate I am a sensitive and experienced Hunter rider so it's not difficult and I'm very comfortable in my regular jump saddle on him any way you could possibly just answer those few questions, do they Canter do the jump, he has a beautiful trot when he's loose in the pasture can I not ride him at that gate ?sorry I'm just so ignorant about gaited horses.
I have an 8 year old Tennessee Walker. I have only had him a few months and I'm having a hard time finding a saddle. I have found your videos absolutely wonderful! Could you please give your opinion on a gaited saddle for trail riding or a dressage saddle? I remember you prefer training to trail riding, would that make a difference if I'm mostly trail riding?
I know it's been a long time since the question was posted, but maybe there are people now who want to know. I'm not an expert by any means, but I know someone who is. She has gaited and nongaited horses and a lot of different kinds of saddles, and her favorite thing is riding the trails, like me! I would sell my soul to ride trails everyday! Anyway, she often uses a dressage saddle on the trails, on the gaited and nongaited horses. I don't know if it makes a difference if you're trying to developed their gaits in any way. It could make a big difference then. I have no idea about that. But if you are only pleasure riding, in general the comfort of horse and rider are the only 2 things that matter. If it fits you and the horse well and you are both perfectly comfortable, especially after long rides, then I think you are ok. Edit: In the post that is currently last, Ivy says that she too uses a dressage saddle.
Hi. My mare gaits very well in my brenda imus saddle, which is suppose to be in the bareback position. But I seem to feel like I might go forward or could be launched forward. Considering getting a deeper seated gaited saddle like a Ctrest ridge.
Thanks, I just did my measurements for Crestridge but needing a light saddle with Cordura fenders so I can lift it! I'm almost 60! Also I couldn't do a canter in the brenda imus, felt like I was going forward.
Hi I’m sarah , new to your channel I have a 10 year old TWH x AQH He is very talented, done jumping over 3 ft , driving and really an all rounder , I believe he is well ahead of my talents Having never ridden gaited horses before I’ve only had him a couple of months , he is extremely sensitive as he was abused by someone in his past so is not very trusting of humans anymore , but I have no intentions of ever selling him , spooky or not , I would like to send you a video of how badly I ride him and today I feel off him , not his fault , more mine as I don’t have the skills but can’t find a trainer here that has any knowledge of the gaited horse , I ride him in a barefoot saddle since that was what his previous owner did , I would like to send you a short video clip ( a few seconds long ) so you can please advise me on how I can get help adjusting to him . I live in the Fraser valley BC Canada . I’m also willing to pay you if you can help Me with my beautiful sensitive spooky and highly intelligent horse . Many thanks for any advise you can give me from Sarah .
@@VanCityKush I so hope you found the help you need. There are not many gaited horses here, due to all the difficulty in importing livestock from other countries, and especially due to past disease epidemics in livestock. There has been Foot In Mouth Disease, which cost Billions of $, Mad Cow Disease, which cost Billions and killed many people, and others. They are just horrible diseases ESPECIALLY MCD, which horses, other animals, and people can get, and is always fatal in people. If you like to read, you should check out Wikipedia's page on MCD. So since gaited horses are rare here, there aren't many experts on them. I'm glad you are (or were) willing to pay for advice. That way you can get the real experts. If you haven't found good help yet, you could try phoning JR Rosa and his wife Emery at Homestead Horsemanship in Missouri. He's a really good guy and an expert in Missouri Fox Trotters, and he might be willing to help, although he is crazy busy. He has a RUclips channel, and if you Google his name with his farm's name of Homestead Horsemanship, their website should have the phone number. You could also Google for things like Canadian 4H Club, Canadian gaited horse organizations, Canadian horse owner organizations, and Canadian equestrian organizations, or anything like that you can think of, and phone them to ask for contacts you can call about your horse. I hope you have already found help, but if not, I hope this helps. I just LOVE that you said you never plan to sell him. It sounds like you are EXACTLY who he needs to help him. Maybe fate brought him to you! I know that with your devotion he will pay you back. He will be so grateful to you for your love and your wonderful care that he will do everything he can to repay you. All the best to you from Barb in Edmonton. ❤🐎🐴🐎❤
@@VanCityKush I so hope you found the help you need. There are not many gaited horses here, due to all the difficulty in importing livestock from other countries, and especially due to past epidemics in livestock of foot in mouth disease, Mad Cow Disease, and others. They are just horrible diseases ESPECIALLY MCD, which horses, other animals, and people can get. MCD is always fatal in people. If you have any time for reading, you should read Wikipedia's page on MCD. So since gaited horses are rare here, there aren't many experts on them. I'm glad you are (or were) willing to pay for advice. That way you can get advice from the best people. If you haven't found good help yet, you could try phoning JR Rosa and his wife Emery at Homestead Horsemanship in Missouri. He's an expert in Missouri Fox Trotters, and MIGHT be willing to help, although he is crazy busy. He has a RUclips channel, and if you Google his name with his farm's name of Homestead Horsemanship, their website should have the phone number. Or you could try Googling Ivy's name, with the words "contact telephone number" in your search term. You could also Google for things like Canadian 4H Club, Canadian gaited horse organizations, Canadian horse owner organizations, and Canadian equestrian organizations, or anything like that you can think of, and phone them to ask for contacts you can call. I hope you have already found help, but if not, I hope this helps. I just LOVE that you said you never plan to sell him. It sounds like you are EXACTLY who he needs to help him, and I know that with your devotion he will pay you back. He will be so grateful to you for your love and your wonderful care that he will do everything he can to repay you. All the best to you from Barb in Edmonton. ❤🐎🐴🐎❤
I ride speed rackers and I don't lean far back with feet far forward but if you've ever ridden speed rackers you know once they are in speed each horse is framed and moving different and you have to find the position of comfort at each speed. I'm talking about with the head set, not forward and with a neutral body, not an inverted one. You're showed as your first horse a speed racker. That position is actually very balanced when traveling at 25 mph. So some horses have a lot of elevation and their butt will be tucked very low. Nobody's trying to "get gait" in that ride. They are riding in the position that is comfortable at that speed. It's kind of like when you see jockeys on Thoroughbreds leaning one way. They don't ride like that when slow... only at speed. So unless one has ridden and trained speed rackers going over 20 mph you can't possibly determine the correct position because each horse is different. Sometimes I might lean forward and stand up a little at speed and at other times I might tuck my butt and lean my legs forward , all depending on the horse.
Thank you, Ivy, for this video on rider position. I have a dressage background and trail ride my TWH in a dressage saddle also. Just want to mention that I ride in a Heather Moffett FlexEE VSD saddle and it is the most balanced, comfortable saddle I've ever ridden in. You could be a total beginner and still ride in the correct position with this saddle. I love it. I'm not associated with HM, just a happy rider! My mare loves it, too.
Awesome video for helping to eliminate horrendous rider posture! There are too many seat postures and turtle riders in the MH show world.
What's MH? I hate it when people use uncommon acronyms without explaining them. Please tell us what that means. 😉 ✌🏼
@@cattymajiv
Mountain Horse. Used to encompass both mountain horse breeds, RMH (Rocky Mountain Horse) and MPH (Mountain Pleasure Horse). The whole purpose of using acronyms is to not have to type out the whole thing every time. There’s no reason to hate their use. Just ask if you aren’t familiar with them.
Love your videos Ivy. I have been riding gaited for 32 years and still learn something new all the time.
THANK YOU IVY! This is what I have been waiting to hear! This is Very validating on what I felt was truly best for the horse and rider. I was soooo confused by the unbalanced way of riding when I was learning about gaited horses!
You are so welcome!!! One day maybe we can change the way people think about and train gaited horses!
Hey Ivy, I have a Ortho flex endurance saddle, I have use that for my TWH, Gelding 18 hands. A woundful running walk, I love it. He had a long back, never had any problems with the saddle.
I look into the plantation saddles, and they are very much alike. Let me know your thoughts.
Thank you for your help and clinics for the gaited community.
I think the Imus 'comfort' bit was made to alleviate the low palate issue in some horses.
But it is a very heavy bit and has long shanks.. Some horses do love it, but it's not a bit I recommend.
@@IvyS yes it is a very heavy bit.
I have a Robarts I bought for my MFT with a low palate. She hates it so it's on a peg in the tack room. I've used it with the reins in the direct reining position and she's still hated it.
I use a grazing bit on her now with a low port.
And some riders r over 70 and stiff everywhere but not willing to stop riding
That is totally great too!
@@IvyS Not when they're on a 2 year old that's too young to be ridden, and they weigh 300 pounds or more, like so many of them do!
Just learning about gaited horses I've ridden Hunter jumpers my whole life and now I am working with a paint cross with Tennessee w
alker who is very sensitive and very sweet and was likely abused. Can these horses trot canter, jump or is it just a walk that they do I've only been walking him learning to communicate I am a sensitive and experienced Hunter rider so it's not difficult and I'm very comfortable in my regular jump saddle on him any way you could possibly just answer those few questions, do they Canter do the jump, he has a beautiful trot when he's loose in the pasture can I not ride him at that gate ?sorry I'm just so ignorant about gaited horses.
I just got a foxtrotter and bought a phoenix rising saddle, what do you think of these? the maker seems to agree with you.
It come down to two words:
Centered Riding
What kind of saddle do you ride in out of curiosity
I ride mainly in an Isabel wintec dressage saddle. I also use a Freeform treeless saddle.
I have an 8 year old Tennessee Walker. I have only had him a few months and I'm having a hard time finding a saddle. I have found your videos absolutely wonderful! Could you please give your opinion on a gaited saddle for trail riding or a dressage saddle? I remember you prefer training to trail riding, would that make a difference if I'm mostly trail riding?
I know it's been a long time since the question was posted, but maybe there are people now who want to know. I'm not an expert by any means, but I know someone who is. She has gaited and nongaited horses and a lot of different kinds of saddles, and her favorite thing is riding the trails, like me! I would sell my soul to ride trails everyday!
Anyway, she often uses a dressage saddle on the trails, on the gaited and nongaited horses. I don't know if it makes a difference if you're trying to developed their gaits in any way. It could make a big difference then. I have no idea about that. But if you are only pleasure riding, in general the comfort of horse and rider are the only 2 things that matter. If it fits you and the horse well and you are both perfectly comfortable, especially after long rides, then I think you are ok.
Edit: In the post that is currently last, Ivy says that she too uses a dressage saddle.
Hi. My mare gaits very well in my brenda imus saddle, which is suppose to be in the bareback position. But I seem to feel like I might go forward or could be launched forward. Considering getting a deeper seated gaited saddle like a Ctrest ridge.
I don't like how that saddle makes the rider sit. Try the Crest ridge and ask to try the narrow twist tree.
Thanks, I just did my measurements for Crestridge but needing a light saddle with Cordura fenders so I can lift it! I'm almost 60! Also I couldn't do a canter in the brenda imus, felt like I was going forward.
Hi I’m sarah , new to your channel
I have a 10 year old TWH x AQH
He is very talented, done jumping over 3 ft , driving and really an all rounder , I believe he is well ahead of my talents
Having never ridden gaited horses before
I’ve only had him a couple of months , he is extremely sensitive as he was abused by someone in his past so is not very trusting of humans anymore , but I have no intentions of ever selling him , spooky or not , I would like to send you a video of how badly I ride him and today I feel off him , not his fault , more mine as I don’t have the skills but can’t find a trainer here that has any knowledge of the gaited horse , I ride him in a barefoot saddle since that was what his previous owner did , I would like to send you a short video clip ( a few seconds long ) so you can please advise me on how I can get help adjusting to him . I live in the Fraser valley BC Canada . I’m also willing to pay you if you can help
Me with my beautiful sensitive spooky and highly intelligent horse .
Many thanks for any advise you can give me from Sarah .
So how do I send you a video Ivy please???
@@VanCityKush I so hope you found the help you need. There are not many gaited horses here, due to all the difficulty in importing livestock from other countries, and especially due to past disease epidemics in livestock. There has been Foot In Mouth Disease, which cost Billions of $, Mad Cow Disease, which cost Billions and killed many people, and others. They are just horrible diseases ESPECIALLY MCD, which horses, other animals, and people can get, and is always fatal in people. If you like to read, you should check out Wikipedia's page on MCD.
So since gaited horses are rare here, there aren't many experts on them. I'm glad you are (or were) willing to pay for advice. That way you can get the real experts.
If you haven't found good help yet, you could try phoning JR Rosa and his wife Emery at Homestead Horsemanship in Missouri. He's a really good guy and an expert in Missouri Fox Trotters, and he might be willing to help, although he is crazy busy. He has a RUclips channel, and if you Google his name with his farm's name of Homestead Horsemanship, their website should have the phone number.
You could also Google for things like Canadian 4H Club, Canadian gaited horse organizations, Canadian horse owner organizations, and Canadian equestrian organizations, or anything like that you can think of, and phone them to ask for contacts you can call about your horse.
I hope you have already found help, but if not, I hope this helps. I just LOVE that you said you never plan to sell him. It sounds like you are EXACTLY who he needs to help him. Maybe fate brought him to you! I know that with your devotion he will pay you back. He will be so grateful to you for your love and your wonderful care that he will do everything he can to repay you. All the best to you from Barb in Edmonton.
❤🐎🐴🐎❤
@@VanCityKush I so hope you found the help you need. There are not many gaited horses here, due to all the difficulty in importing livestock from other countries, and especially due to past epidemics in livestock of foot in mouth disease, Mad Cow Disease, and others. They are just horrible diseases ESPECIALLY MCD, which horses, other animals, and people can get. MCD is always fatal in people. If you have any time for reading, you should read Wikipedia's page on MCD.
So since gaited horses are rare here, there aren't many experts on them. I'm glad you are (or were) willing to pay for advice. That way you can get advice from the best people.
If you haven't found good help yet, you could try phoning JR Rosa and his wife Emery at Homestead Horsemanship in Missouri. He's an expert in Missouri Fox Trotters, and MIGHT be willing to help, although he is crazy busy. He has a RUclips channel, and if you Google his name with his farm's name of Homestead Horsemanship, their website should have the phone number.
Or you could try Googling Ivy's name, with the words "contact telephone number" in your search term.
You could also Google for things like Canadian 4H Club, Canadian gaited horse organizations, Canadian horse owner organizations, and Canadian equestrian organizations, or anything like that you can think of, and phone them to ask for contacts you can call.
I hope you have already found help, but if not, I hope this helps. I just LOVE that you said you never plan to sell him. It sounds like you are EXACTLY who he needs to help him, and I know that with your devotion he will pay you back. He will be so grateful to you for your love and your wonderful care that he will do everything he can to repay you. All the best to you from Barb in Edmonton.
❤🐎🐴🐎❤
How to train horse for single foot gait
What's that? I've never heard of it. But then I'm in Canada, and there are not a lot of gaited horses here.