The lack of inputs makes it a dealbreaker for me. What happens when the apps and system is not updated anymore? I use an old B&W A7 and it still sounds amazing and works flawless hooked up via optical cable to my TV.
I was sad when the Zeppelin was discontinued a few years ago. Nothing has looked, or sounded like that in it's price category since then. Happy to see its return!
'...with spotify hifi coming shortly...' that aged supremely well. appreciate this is one of the very few reviews of this device on YT, but wouldve appreciated it even more if it was a little more critical. sounds more like an extended ad.
I've bought every model out and just received the new 2021. The Sound from the new model has been improved and even better if you have the phone app and increase both the Treble and Bass to their max. settings. I have the wall bracket as in the past with the old models, looks good. The only small disappointing and I mean small is the LED light is in white would be great to have had other colours as an option. Much louder and the jazz sound amazing. Glad the Zeppelin returned.
Do you know if B&W have fixed the previous problem of past Zeppelins concerning the ‘red blinking light’ error? I think it had to do with the power board needing to be replaced after some time. I own the original Zeppelin and it happened to me twice, and was able to get it fixed the first time, except now I was told that B&W no longer have replacement parts for the original Zeppelin.
@@oaktree1628 which model are you ref. to I have own all the versions and at one time owned 4 Zeppelins The last two models are by far much better than all the old models. The newest has improved. The latest version is the one I would recommend to own after having all the past versions.
I went for the Astell&Kern Bluetooth speaker instead. I’m not disappointed. It’s superb and doesn’t need voice recognition or anything like that. Beautiful speaker with just a volume knob!
If this was Roon Ready, it would be an instant purchase from me. I currently use a Zeppelin Wireless, with a Bluesound NODE (connected via aux) acting as a Roon Bridge. But with no physical inputs, the new Zeppelin seems to have no way for me to play my local offline library at 24bit/192KHz.
This is the problem! The lack of an aux port. I have many b&w products including many vintage speakers that still perform very well even after 20 or 30 years. I have dm4, dm16 and 801 second series. Unfortunately I have experienced that the zeppelin has not premium quality electronic components inside. If you surf youtube you will find many videos about faulty zeppelins . The problems often are the capacitors in the power circuit. These capacitors cost few cents . If B&w had mounted better capacitors as panasonic for istance these speakers would not have had so many failures. I experienced these failures. I have 3 zeppelin with a still white led completely unresponsive and one more with temperamental behaviour that are unused in the basement waiting for a unprobable solution. The repair is not easy to do yourself and the official services are not cheap in comparison with the value of these speakers nowdays. However the lack of the aux in the last model is very disappointing to me. The aux port gives flexibility. I use an unexpensive raspberry pi hooked to a good dac and it is even possible to hook an audio chromecast connected optically to bypass the chromecast internal dac to command the music by voice assistant. The apple wireless protocol is good but with my system I can stream even dsp and other high resolution formats.
I have the Zeppelin Wireless. I do love it for its looks and sound. Over the years it went from my home, to my office, to my kid, and back home again. I dug around and did find a old firmware upgrade. People were alway taken aback when they saw it! I wish I could find a wall mount for my 2016 Zeppelin Wireless model. Works great with my Apple iPad Pro, iPhone 13 Pro, and M1 MacMini. But maybe it is time to upgrade to the new one?
The new one is even better and you will love the new app! We don't think the wall mount for the new one will fit the wireless one. Thanks for watching!
The A7 I bought stopped working. the Zeppelin wireless still works but I wanted to update the firmware and its hard. Also wanted to buy the new Zeppelin in the next couple days. Good review thx
Similar question I mostly play HipHop and Reggae music these days but I have the Bowers and Wilkins Formation Wedge speaker 🔊 that came out a few years ago and that thing plays bass very well and can fill up a room with no problem and I have a huge master bedroom to boot. I also have the Naim speakers 🔊 as well the Naim Mu-so 2nd Generation small cube square box speaker 🔈 and the long sound-bar Naim speaker rectangular that came out two years ago or last year I believe. Anyway just want to know this speaker 🔊you just reviewed in this video is it much better than those speakers 🔊 I named out together in my room for surround sound? Basically is it a better replace For my Bowers and Wilkins formation Wedge? I think they all play great 👍🏾 but I want what’s best for my music period!
They are really two different animals. The JBL is very rugged and designed to be used anywhere, including outdoors. If you were to compare them indoors, yes the B&W is better but costs much more than the JBL. Thanks for watching
Thanks a lot for the video ! I would greatly appreciate a comparison with the Zeppelin Wireless . Do you advice an upgrade ? I love my current one but I fear I may be losing something .
Thanks David, they sound very similar, you get more streaming options on the new one, so if you are fine with your music availability, there is not a need to upgrade
We think the Zeppelin has a larger presentation and has more music apps currently, but is not Roon Ready like the Wedge, but they will likely become the same or similar with software updates. Thanks for watching
Just to clarify, if using the B&W app or Tidal through it for instance, it works as a wifi speaker? Bluetooth is optional? The language around that feels a bit fuzzy.
@@lukabosnjak3829 wtf are you talking about? Oh right, you have no clue. The frequency response is nowhere near the B&W and same goes for the specs. There’s no way the Copenhagen even holds a candle to the zeppelin.
Just got one Zeppelin today and the Bluetooth is complete trash - mono, low quality, sound being interrupted and it is only streaming from Android phone and no sound at all from high end Samsung tablet. Only one BT device can be paired at the time. The WiFi is only for B&W app and works good, still the sound is a bit muddy as I am used to listen to monitor on daily basis. Will be returning the device.
@@AudioAdvice Maybe it's local Bluetooth interference, signal compression and processing, or maybe I'm too demanding from listening to the Adam Audio A7V every day. Zeppelin sounds unnatural to me, without details, unbalanced, unfortunately. I'll try SONOS to see if it's better, but even that doesn't specify harmonic distortion, so I'm not holding out much hope.
I had two Zeppelins, one first-generation from 2011 and the next one 2017-2018 I would like to know sound performance compared previous Zeppelin model, is it worth for me to buy new one since I am still using the Zeppelin model 2018
Pretty similar, the same drivers, but the new Zeppelin is wider and puts out a bigger sound and has more music apps for now, although they will probably update the Wedge
I cant work out the difference between the Formation Wedge and the Zeppelin. They seem to have the same amout of drivers and look to be the same drivers. Im struggling to assertain how they differentiat the two. It seems like they are the same price as well. #confused
They do have the same drivers. The Zeppelin is much wider and presents a larger image. Right now the Wedge is Roon Ready and the Zeppelin is not, but the Zeppelin has more music apps, although we suspect they will become the same or similar with software updates. The Zeppelin is the better value in our opinion. Thanks for watching
Basically the Zeppelin due to its design has a wider and more spacious sound stage. Something the Wedge really needed badly. I owned the Wedge for a few weeks before I took it back. No where near worth $900.
@@Rtuzemsky Sure, we have not until you just told us, that actually looks very interesting, there is no US distributor at this time. We might check it out, thanks for the tip. Their tech looks very sound
I just got one, set it up, removed all my Sonos products throughly from the network, and it's clearly on my network and communicating with the Bowers app, but I'm getting no sound out of it. Nada. Is there any fix or should I just return it? I've tried all the usual: factory reset (physical and through app), unplugged power, restarted and updated apps and router, etc.
The same drivers, but it is wider so it has a bigger presentation and right now it can use more music services, but that will likely change. Thanks for watching
There is a lot of extra padding packaged in the box with this product. It's certainly great to keep it safe but sometimes is unnecessary and only gives the consumer more stuff to throw away or recycle.
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Package could have been more eco friendly? Stfu
Unbelievable that’s amazing wow
Your review is one of the best most informative reviews I have ever seen.
I went out and bought it.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
The lack of inputs makes it a dealbreaker for me. What happens when the apps and system is not updated anymore? I use an old B&W A7 and it still sounds amazing and works flawless hooked up via optical cable to my TV.
The A7 was a great one and a classic. Thanks for watching
I was sad when the Zeppelin was discontinued a few years ago. Nothing has looked, or sounded like that in it's price category since then. Happy to see its return!
Well said!
Thanks for highlighting this. Now I want one.
It is pretty cool.
'...with spotify hifi coming shortly...' that aged supremely well. appreciate this is one of the very few reviews of this device on YT, but wouldve appreciated it even more if it was a little more critical. sounds more like an extended ad.
Fair enough. Thanks for the feedback.
I've bought every model out and just received the new 2021. The Sound from the new model has been improved and even better if you have the phone app and increase both the Treble and Bass to their max. settings. I have the wall bracket as in the past with the old models, looks good. The only small disappointing and I mean small is the LED light is in white would be great to have had other colours as an option. Much louder and the jazz sound amazing. Glad the Zeppelin returned.
Thanks for sharing, yes, we were happy to see the Zeppelin back too!
Do you know if B&W have fixed the previous problem of past Zeppelins concerning the ‘red blinking light’ error? I think it had to do with the power board needing to be replaced after some time. I own the original Zeppelin and it happened to me twice, and was able to get it fixed the first time, except now I was told that B&W no longer have replacement parts for the original Zeppelin.
@@oaktree1628 which model are you ref. to I have own all the versions and at one time owned 4 Zeppelins The last two models are by far much better than all the old models. The newest has improved. The latest version is the one I would recommend to own after having all the past versions.
I have just won the Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin at my local store. So excited:D
Nice!
I went for the Astell&Kern Bluetooth speaker instead. I’m not disappointed. It’s superb and doesn’t need voice recognition or anything like that. Beautiful speaker with just a volume knob!
Had one when it was first released.
Funny looking with the iPod dock.
Looking forward to checking out this latest model.
It’s worth checking out! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video . Lots of information .
Great video !
Glad it was helpful!
Nice I’ve saved some older ones from the skip by repairing them great speakers! hope to eventually save up and buy a new one 👍
Thanks for watching!
If this was Roon Ready, it would be an instant purchase from me. I currently use a Zeppelin Wireless, with a Bluesound NODE (connected via aux) acting as a Roon Bridge. But with no physical inputs, the new Zeppelin seems to have no way for me to play my local offline library at 24bit/192KHz.
The Wedge, which uses the same drivers and is $100 more is Roon Ready www.audioadvice.com/bowers-wilkins-formation-wedge-wireless-speaker-system
This is the problem! The lack of an aux port. I have many b&w products including many vintage speakers that still perform very well even after 20 or 30 years. I have dm4, dm16 and 801 second series. Unfortunately I have experienced that the zeppelin has not premium quality electronic components inside. If you surf youtube you will find many videos about faulty zeppelins . The problems often are the capacitors in the power circuit. These capacitors cost few cents . If B&w had mounted better capacitors as panasonic for istance these speakers would not have had so many failures. I experienced these failures. I have 3 zeppelin with a still white led completely unresponsive and one more with temperamental behaviour that are unused in the basement waiting for a unprobable solution. The repair is not easy to do yourself and the official services are not cheap in comparison with the value of these speakers nowdays. However the lack of the aux in the last model is very disappointing to me. The aux port gives flexibility. I use an unexpensive raspberry pi hooked to a good dac and it is even possible to hook an audio chromecast connected optically to bypass the chromecast internal dac to command the music by voice assistant. The apple wireless protocol is good but with my system I can stream even dsp and other high resolution formats.
I love the look of this one 👍🏻
We do to!
I have the Zeppelin Wireless. I do love it for its looks and sound. Over the years it went from my home, to my office, to my kid, and back home again. I dug around and did find a old firmware upgrade. People were alway taken aback when they saw it! I wish I could find a wall mount for my 2016 Zeppelin Wireless model. Works great with my Apple iPad Pro, iPhone 13 Pro, and M1 MacMini. But maybe it is time to upgrade to the new one?
The new one is even better and you will love the new app! We don't think the wall mount for the new one will fit the wireless one. Thanks for watching!
But you old one will connect to your TV. The new one, sadly will not.
what bookshelf speakers with integrated .. (all) would you recc, for home use where we are looking for exceptional stereo sound ?
That is a wide open question :) Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for the best advice. Thanks for watching
The A7 I bought stopped working. the Zeppelin wireless still works but I wanted to update the firmware and its hard. Also wanted to buy the new Zeppelin in the next couple days. Good review thx
Sorry you are having trouble, if you purchased your gear from Audio Advice, please reach out to us for help with the updates. Thanks for watching
I'll def be using this speaker for jazz and rock. But how does it sound with rap music?
It has very good deep bass for its size and category
Similar question I mostly play HipHop and Reggae music these days but I have the Bowers and Wilkins Formation Wedge speaker 🔊 that came out a few years ago and that thing plays bass very well and can fill up a room with no problem and I have a huge master bedroom to boot. I also have the Naim speakers 🔊 as well the Naim Mu-so 2nd Generation small cube square box speaker 🔈 and the long sound-bar Naim speaker rectangular that came out two years ago or last year I believe. Anyway just want to know this speaker 🔊you just reviewed in this video is it much better than those speakers 🔊 I named out together in my room for surround sound? Basically is it a better replace For my Bowers and Wilkins formation Wedge? I think they all play great 👍🏾 but I want what’s best for my music period!
@@jonathanbarnes7641 The longer Naim you have is the best one. That was the original Muso and is very good
@@AudioAdvice thanks 🙏🏾 much appreciated you guys are the best boom 🤯! Peace ✌🏾! Bye 👋
@@AudioAdvice you think that long one even sounds better than the Bower & Wilkins Formation Wedge?
I currently use the Harman Kardon Citation 500. Is it worthwhile to switch to the Zeppelin for an audio upgrade? I would appreciate your opinion
Yes it would.
Hey Audio Advice! Wondering if you could help me choose between the new Zeppelin or the Formation: Wedge! :)
Steven, great question, please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for the best advice. Thanks for watching
Do you know if this speaker matches up well against the JBL. Boombox 2? I got a feeling this speaker is way better
They are really two different animals. The JBL is very rugged and designed to be used anywhere, including outdoors. If you were to compare them indoors, yes the B&W is better but costs much more than the JBL. Thanks for watching
Thanks a lot for the video ! I would greatly appreciate a comparison with the Zeppelin Wireless . Do you advice an upgrade ? I love my current one but I fear I may be losing something .
Thanks David, they sound very similar, you get more streaming options on the new one, so if you are fine with your music availability, there is not a need to upgrade
Boss.. HDMI Arc better or eARS better and what's different? TQ 😊
eARC can deliver uncompressed Dolby Atmos. ARC compresses it. Thanks for watching
Finally!😍
But how would the sound compare to the wedge, since this one is bigger but cheaper?
We think the Zeppelin has a larger presentation and has more music apps currently, but is not Roon Ready like the Wedge, but they will likely become the same or similar with software updates. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice I see😍
Room ready you mean the ability to connect multiple speakers simultaneously?
@@pyrgakis www.audioadvice.com/videos-reviews/roon-everything-need-know
Great review! Any chance you have any comparisons with the Ultimate Ears Hyperboom sound wise?
Thank you, sorry we do not
Are u serious 😂
Thanks Ferrell
We appreciate you watching
I have the zeppelin air. Is the sound that much better worth for an upgrade? Thank you!
Not much, its more of a feature/app difference
Looks cool!
Thanks!
Hey! I'm looking for a spea3for my new little apartment. I can't decide between this zeppelin or bang olufsen beosound 2. What do you think?
We are not dealers for B&O and have not heard that model, but we can say the Zeppelin would be great for your space!
Just to clarify, if using the B&W app or Tidal through it for instance, it works as a wifi speaker? Bluetooth is optional? The language around that feels a bit fuzzy.
Yes, you are correct, Bluetooth and Airplay 2 are present if you want to use them for services the app does not support
@@AudioAdvice Thanks
It's weird that there is no power off button...
It needs to stay in standby to wake up when you stream to it. Thanks for watching.
I’ll stick with my Zeppelin Air, it’s more “right” for me.
My next speaker!!!
Glad you liked our video, thanks for watching!
What are your test tracks?
Sorry, its been over two years and we do not remember.
This new Zeppelin or the Naim Qb 2 as far as sound..? Or even the Mu-so 2...?
The Muso 2 would be the best, but it costs a lot more. Both the QB2 and Zep are very good, the Zep does have a wider sound field. Thanks for watching
Just get Vifa Stockholm 2.0 or Copenhagen 2.0 (proud owner), they will wipe the floor with others in tearms of sound quality...
@@lukabosnjak3829 I have Copenhagen 2.0, but I wonder if this Zeppelin does sound better or not. Guess will have to compare them somewhere.
@@Ivan_1986 Haha, zeppelin has no chance in definition of sound...
@@lukabosnjak3829 wtf are you talking about? Oh right, you have no clue. The frequency response is nowhere near the B&W and same goes for the specs. There’s no way the Copenhagen even holds a candle to the zeppelin.
Just got one Zeppelin today and the Bluetooth is complete trash - mono, low quality, sound being interrupted and it is only streaming from Android phone and no sound at all from high end Samsung tablet. Only one BT device can be paired at the time. The WiFi is only for B&W app and works good, still the sound is a bit muddy as I am used to listen to monitor on daily basis. Will be returning the device.
Something seems wrong. If you purchased your Zeppelin from Audio Advice please reach out to us for tech help.
@@AudioAdvice Maybe it's local Bluetooth interference, signal compression and processing, or maybe I'm too demanding from listening to the Adam Audio A7V every day. Zeppelin sounds unnatural to me, without details, unbalanced, unfortunately. I'll try SONOS to see if it's better, but even that doesn't specify harmonic distortion, so I'm not holding out much hope.
I had two Zeppelins, one first-generation from 2011 and the next one 2017-2018
I would like to know sound performance compared previous Zeppelin model, is it worth for me to buy new one since I am still using the Zeppelin model 2018
If you are good with getting music to your Zeppelin, you should stick with the 2018, it is very close. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Thanks for your advice.
How does the new Zeppelin compare to the Formation Wedge?
Pretty similar, the same drivers, but the new Zeppelin is wider and puts out a bigger sound and has more music apps for now, although they will probably update the Wedge
You can plug in an ethernet adapter to that USB-C slot to have a wired link to your home. As always, great report 👍
Thanks for sharing and we are glad you enjoyed our overview.
Zeppelin or Wedge? For our kitchen.
Zeppelin. Thanks for watching
How is it different to the formation wedge?
Wider for a bigger soundstage, more music services, but it does use the same drivers. Thanks for watching
Is the driver different from the old zeppline wireless?
They look the same to us. Thanks for watching
Hi, I want to know if it’s better than the formation bar, which I hesitate to buy now that The new zeppelin is out
The Bar is a soundbar, the Zeppelin does not have a way to be used as a soundbar. It does not have an HDMI or optical input.
@@AudioAdvice but to listen to classical music which one is the best ?
@@nilsgauderlot The Zeppelin would be better for music.
@@AudioAdvice ok thanks
I cant work out the difference between the Formation Wedge and the Zeppelin. They seem to have the same amout of drivers and look to be the same drivers. Im struggling to assertain how they differentiat the two. It seems like they are the same price as well. #confused
They do have the same drivers. The Zeppelin is much wider and presents a larger image. Right now the Wedge is Roon Ready and the Zeppelin is not, but the Zeppelin has more music apps, although we suspect they will become the same or similar with software updates. The Zeppelin is the better value in our opinion. Thanks for watching
Basically the Zeppelin due to its design has a wider and more spacious sound stage. Something the Wedge really needed badly. I owned the Wedge for a few weeks before I took it back. No where near worth $900.
Nice one cheers 😊
Thanks!
Can you use it on turntables?
Sorry, it would not work with a conventional turntable. Thanks for watching
Which is better the zeppelin or 600 series?
The 600 series with a good amp- or streaming amp would be a lot better. Thanks for watching
I'm still unclear on how much this unit goes for?
Same
$799
Yes, right now it is $799, thanks for watching
How much better it is compared to Harman Kardon Go Play 2?
We have not heard that model.
@@AudioAdvice thank you for an answer, appreciated. have u by the way heard of LOG AUDIO MONOLOG SLIM?
@@Rtuzemsky Sure, we have not until you just told us, that actually looks very interesting, there is no US distributor at this time. We might check it out, thanks for the tip. Their tech looks very sound
No streaming via upnd?
No, but it has tons of ways to get music into it, thanks for watching
I just got one, set it up, removed all my Sonos products throughly from the network, and it's clearly on my network and communicating with the Bowers app, but I'm getting no sound out of it. Nada. Is there any fix or should I just return it? I've tried all the usual: factory reset (physical and through app), unplugged power, restarted and updated apps and router, etc.
Sorry you are having trouble. If you purchased it from Audio Advice our team will be able to help you troubleshoot. These normally set up super easy
- I was just about to click buy, then saw this -> Alexa built in (Urghhh) why why why???
😂 “Spotify Hi-Fi coming”. That comment did not age well.
No it did not did it! They have been promising it for years now. Thanks for watching
How much is price?
799, thanks for watching
The new Zeppelin or Wedge?
The same drivers, the Wedge is Roon Ready.
Price?
$799, thanks for watching
Needs a subwoofer out for use bass head! Lol
That would have been nice, but it does have very good bass for its price. Thanks for watching
How it compares to formation wedge?
The same drivers, but it is wider so it has a bigger presentation and right now it can use more music services, but that will likely change. Thanks for watching
Love the wedge… has a more detailed sound in every way…. Zeppelin more powerfulI
Tzeppeleen!!!! Not "Zappleen". ChippoliN))))
As much as I love it I wish the new ones could connect to the TV
EArc would be a nice addition. Thanks for watching
It looks like a pillow
Sorta does!
I thought the guy said bmw then realized the nrand is bnw lol
Yes, a lot of people hear B&W as BMW. Thanks for watching
Why does many of your reviews look like infomercials to me?! You do not critically evaluate these products
its rubish , iv had one
We've had no issues with ours so far.
Eco friendly? Seriously?
There is a lot of extra padding packaged in the box with this product. It's certainly great to keep it safe but sometimes is unnecessary and only gives the consumer more stuff to throw away or recycle.
Does it have a rechargeable battery? I'd like to put it on a shelf by itself WITHOUT a cord
Unfortunately, it does not. It must be plugged in.