EPISODE 63 - SPRAYING DOWN SOME METALLIC PEARL COLOUR ON THE HOLDEN WB UTE.
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This episode is another big step forward and represents 4 years of work to not only get the utes panels to the stage that it can finally painted but also having learnt the knowledge to apply the paint to a professional level. It required a lot of research, good equipment and preparation but i think i achieved the goal of what i set out to do and that was a beautiful finish for my first panels. Seeyou inside
Awesome job mate must be stoked with the way that turned out
Thanks mate, yeah happy I managed to figure it out!
Finally catching up mate. Colour looks mint
Cheers mate!
I would hang the tail gate up vertically to stop stuff falling in. You'll always get some crap on Horizontal surfaces when spraying in the shed
Yeah I will, I actually should have done that anyway to get the correct or consistent metallic layup like the quarter panels will have. Cheers
Wow!! That looks amazing
Good job mate, well done.
As far as adding reducer to your clear I wouldn't, you could set yourself up for a load of trouble with runs and sagging, get yourself a cheater valve ( a regulator) and put it on your gun and spray your clear at 2 bar (28 psi) and that might calm the orange peel with a finer atomisation. Its also in the way you lay it down but HS clear is way to go. MS clear would be easier to use on your first go but it is thinner. 2 coats of HS is plenty even if your going to wet sand and buff at the end. Flow coat is maybe overkill but it's your build. If you reduce your HS clear your basically turning it into a MS clear because your reducing out the solids in it. Try putting your extraction fan on the floor and pull all the overspray down not up!! Definitely get yourself a regulator on your gun so you know what pressure your spaying at the gun. You can set it at your compressor but it drops as it travels through the hose. The metallics in your basecoat look great man even on my phone. A big step mate and you nailed it. Sorry if I'm pointing out the negative things but I'm just offering advice, things I've learned over the years and years of painting. Keep moving forward mate the end is getting closer. 👍🏼 😁
Thanks mate, I am planning on spraying the body shell this weekend so i will probably sand the tailgate and do that first as a test for the new settings and then i will be ready to go on the body. I do have a regulator for the gun i just didn't have a connector last round. I have decided i will spray the shell as one unit so i don't have to back tape inner door jams etc and i will that will reduce overspray in the booth and give me more control and visibilty. I have bought another fan system to reduce the overspray and will see how it goes. I think although considered a riskier method by spraying guards and doors seperately it allows me to really concentrate on doing a great job on smaller areas, gives me more visibility from overspray and better lighting conditions and eliminates all the taping. I will spray both guards and doors in vertical positions maintaining a similar angled drop coat pattern so to replicate the same metallic as the body. I think it should work. The gun pressure was around 3.5 bar so way too high and i think thats what was creating the orange peel for sure, just too much power coming out, hence why i had to hold it way back. Thanks for the feedback, as i said the other day, i didn't spray those panels, 10 people subscribed to this channel painted those panels, you being one of them. Cheers mate
Yes you are spot on with the cowl panel, major structural piece, take no chances and you've done it the right way👍
Looking good buddy, yes reducer will help with the orange peal and move the gun a bit quicker as you spray, that will help as well, I would block the tailgate back with 800 until flat and flow coat it. good job. Not that hard was it.
Thanks mate👍 it wasn't that hard! That gun made all the difference, it was a pleasure to use! Ok 800, hopefully the moth didn't punch through to the metallic! Cheers 👍
@@BarnesysBuilds yea thats what i would do, block the moth down as close as you can if not all the way then rub the hole panel with 800 and coat it again with clear (2 coats)
Fantastic Start to the colour, pity about the bloody moth though!!
Thanks mate, yeah the moth was a massive downer! All fixable though
NICE❤
Getting exciting now mate! Love the colour and I love the information packed videos. I'll be going right through them all when I start my sedan build
Thanks mate🤙
As the ol saying goes Barnsey - “Your only as good as your tools “ or “ quality tools quality job “ and you’ve proven it here .
Good work man - a tip to evenly flatten the fuckhead moth track is to tape off the immediate area and use a painters razor and gently scrape the ripple off down to flat again, this technique will also let you know if it’s too deep but once it’s flat enough in the clear then spot sand with high grit paper slowly radiatin out to a patch about 3 times the size of the original blemish. Then “pish” in a coupla coats of clear to the area to bring the height up again then block / cut back the entire panel back to flat and coat whole panel again. Also invest in some tack cloths and use them just before applying any coat of paint as this positively removes any debris that is statically attracted to the surface of the panel.
Choice colour !
Thanks mate! Yeah the moth fucked it good and proper, i tried to sand back the clear but it was too deep and before i could iron out the little footprints the stain started to grow as i rubbed which i guess meant i had reached the dreaded metallic layer. So i am just going to assume the only method of repair now is a complete respray of metallic and clear, sand back with 800 first down to metallic level and go again? Absolute Pain in the arse. However that Walcom gun is awesome, it carried me the whole way! cheers mate
Crazy job so fair absolutely loving this build 👌
Thanks mate👍
Spectacular colour mate, love the way it changes as you walk around it. Looking forward to seeing the whole ute coloured in and out in the sun 👍😎
Yes can't wait to get the quarter panels in the colour, going to catch reflections nicely, thanks mate👍
Looking unbelievable barnesy 👌
Thanks mate👍
you could go 800 & sand the orange peel & hope all of the moth but leave it to dry for a week first put it in the sun to harden before sanding for the flow coat on the tail gate !!!
Turns out i will have to do a full respray as the moth went through into the metallic!
@@BarnesysBuilds oh no bugga !!
Shmick as matey... Nice gun eh. Loving watching the progress. Been here from the start of the journey and learnt a bunch from your experience. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.👍
Thnaks mate, yeah that gun is awesome, although i only have an ebay shitter to compare it too i can just tell it's a excellent gun. Thanks for watching the journey, it's been a long old ride so you must have patience as well!
@@BarnesysBuilds . Cheers,for the reply. Watching vicariously as time is getting away from me with 2 Tonners and two high maintenance females in the house.Ahaha. Excuses.
Sweet colour choice , the uterus is coming along mint mate.
Looks great mate very nicely done 👍
Thanks 👍
Nice, really nice.
What’s the colour called ?
A similar choice of colour ( gunmetal grey ) I’ll be using on my one Tonner with ( at this time) a red gum topped tray.
Keep the vids coming 🍺👍
Thanks, it's called Anthracite Braun metallic, basically gun metal with a bronze pearl, awesome colour.
Good on you Mr B, you are doing well here.
Thank you kindly
Man you must be stoked to be finally laying down that gorgeous colour. What an asshole of a moth though !!
Yeah mate, absolutely stoked with the colour, bloody moth though ruined part of that celebration!. All fixable though, i hope.
What a jerk That moth was haha great stuff man really makes me wanna get out in the shed
G'day Barnsey - great stuff mate, a real milestone to see some colour going down - you must be stoked.
Some thoughts for you - bearing in mind that I, like you, am not a professional, merely a well meaning amateur but, here a few things I have picked up over the years playing with paint. I notice you didn't have a regulator on the gun - your MDS will give you all the specs you need: mix ratio, flash time, tip size and pressure at the gun - if you get the set up right and add some reducer you will find that the paint/clear will atomize really nicely and you'll get a great finish - your quality gun will be so much better with the proper settings. You are always going to have orange peel, it's just the nature of the beast - look at the finish on brand new cars and you'll see they have peel - real pro painters are able to mimic the orange peel finish of the different manufacturers.
Trash in your paint - in your case a moth (been there), in my case it was always black dog hair and always at the most critical moment. The truth is that even in a professional booth you'll get trash in the paint. Fixing the moth damage will depend on how much clear was down before it landed and how deep you dug to get it out. Prepare yourself for having to repaint the entire tailgate - maybe you'll get lucky. I have loads of different small hard rubber blocks for gnats and dust - I think they are called toleblocks by Eagle - I got them on Amazon - they are small to minimize the area you sand. If you had enough clear you could hit it with 600 - 800 on a DA, but only you will know.
As you are learning as you go I would suggest that you put down more than 2 coats of clear - I usually do three, one tack and two full wet coats, then I go with 800 dry on the DA before laying down another couple of coats. In other words, give yourself as much room for error as possible - and be really careful with edges - hopefully you won't have any burn through but, prepare yourself just in case.
Metallic is hard, but not impossible to paint as you have already proved - a good gun set up and technique will get you where you need to be. I have heard that it's best to paint the panel it the same orientation that it will be when on the car; so paint the hood flat but, have doors and tailgate on a stand matching how they hang on the vehicle. Others may have a different opinion but, it makes sense to me.
Anyway, awesome progress mate - looking forward to the next episode.
BTW - did you say AU$123 per liter for the raptor liner? Holy shit - its $149US for a 4 liter kit including the gun.
Thanks Alan, Definitely stoked with the outcome, despite the moth shitting on my parade. Unfortunately it will need a total respray as i tried to sand it back but unfortunatelt the moth legs ended up going into the metallic and the patch just kept getting bigger the more i sanded. So it's a full sand back and redo which is so annoying.
I do have a wall regulator which was around 2.5 bar i think and also have a regulator for the gun but i didn't have a connection to mount it so i just used the wall regulator. It also has a large water trap on it as well. I defintely need to tweak the settings on the gun, i rushed it and was keen to get started but can defintely get better results. And yes $123 per liter for Raptor liner, or $325 for the 4 litre pack. We get stitched up down here on price for most things unfortunately. Thanks Alan
@@BarnesysBuilds No doubt you're pleased mate it's the icing on the cake getting to put down some colour after all the hard work.
I knew that tailgate was going to need a re-shoot - it's mad just how hard it is to sand even the tiniest gnat out of clear. Just know this isn't the last time you'll have to deal with this. Even with your booth (which I would kill for) you're going to have to sand trash out of the finish - that's why I would advise you not to skimp on your clear coat as you're going to need as much material as possible for when it's time to cut and buff.
You must get a regulator at the the gun - it will make a world of difference. If you're at 2.5 bar (36 psi approx) at the wall just think how many meters of hose there are between there and the gun - there's bound to be some drop off. If you regulate right at the gun you can set everything up to the paint manufacturer's specs, then you can tweak it from there - you will be amazed at the off the gun finish. I have an Anest Iwata clone for colour and an Anest Iwata W-400 Bellaria for clear - the results are so much better than the cheap old guns I used to use.
Funny you say about Aussie prices - I got Yella Terra roller rockers direct from the manufacturer in Aus and still saved a couple of hundred over the same item locally even with shipping.
Anyway mate - just use the experience with the tailgate as an opportunity to practice some more - you're gonna need it when it comes to spraying the bed sides! Waiting eagerly for the next installment.
Well done Barnsley love the commitment I think I was more nervous than you about putting the colour down
Thnaks mate, yeah definitely a nervous build up but easier than i had imagined to get it down at that level. The gun helped a lot.
Powering along mate you will be ready for the show and shine at this rate , can’t wait to see the donk in ,when you go to paint the body maybe hire some red heat lamps to help flash off between coats ,it could help,keep up the momentum you’ll be done in no time .👍
Thanks mate, yeah got a bee in my bonnet now and just want to get done. The donk isn't far away, it's going to sit nice in that coloured engine bay now seeing the colour. I would be hesitant to put lamps in the booth as the overspray was mental. Need to add the other fan which I have got. Hopefully helps.🤙
Great job mate 👍🏽
Cheers mate👍
That's a nice colour Mate
What colour was that again im working on my 1966 Dodge Phoenix I think ill put that colour on it
Its a nice colour
Cheers it Anthracite Braun, check the video for the code as I can't remember off top of my head. Porsche 911 colour.
Great content
Inspirational! Wondering if that's a rare spares tailgate? If so did you test fit it. Last one I got I found the holes badly crooked on one side so hinges are very hard to mount and sat on an angle. Might need to drill out spot welds and straighten and reweld.
Thanks mate, i did do a test fit a while back but it was simply just resting it in the tailgate area and leaving it there, i didn't bolt it up, which i did not even think about doing tbh. Always the way when you learning on the job, i also didn't drill the trap holes for the clips but wanted to wait until i get the trap for alignment. So hopefully it's a straight tailgate, surely they can't fuck that up!
@@BarnesysBuilds you inspired me to go and fix that crooked mount as I haven't finalized the fit. Bad news. They are mounted in with a moveable plate like the door hinge which sounds good but it's way crooked and have to open the skin to move it. I put a large bolt in and hit it across with hammer as Farr as I could but still not lining up too well with the hole in skin. Best I could do was grind out the hole so it doesn't foul. If I hit it any further it would have jumped off the tab. I suspect it will fit but might pull to one side as it closes.
Great work mate,😁 you know it's coming 😁....gun is to far away that's what's giving you so much peal, you won't get runs when applying the colour unless you put it on way to heavy, and after that 1st coat of clear, if you don't get a run or two you are either to far away or not blasting enough on IMO(runs easy fixed in the clear). That's why a test panel to practice on is a good idea, to find your limits.
At the end of the day the ground work is down, its going to look shit hot, and after 10 yrs or so of enjoyment, and its chipped and scratched you'll probably rub it down and do a show quality spray job.
Seriously man for your 1st time doing all this type of work, you are doing an excellent job, 👍
P.S even the best are welding and fixing things right up to the last minute.
Thanks Mark, i appreciate the honest feedback as it's definitely helped me get those results i reckon, there's a hand full of blokes on this feedback cycle that have contributed to getting that result straight off the bat, you included so i thankyou for that. As brutal as it can be sometimes! Yes i realised after seeing the footage i was almost a foot away when they say to be a fist away, i reckon i need to lower the gun pressure as well and add a reducer. I didn't want to waste the clear on a test panel but could've avoided a whole lot of sanding, but all good. I will get it better next round! cheers
@@BarnesysBuilds Yes I always use at lest 5% reducer, but thats were experience come's into it, Knowing your paint and how it flows in different conditions. This doesn't mean you won't get a good job. Be realistic with your expectations and just keep smashing it on😁.
@@markstone5593 I reckon i will test out 10% reducer and then go closer with the gun, on a test panel!
@@BarnesysBuilds 👍
I have noticed Mark's advice, I have even screenshot and save his comments about blocking back.
And while your doing a great job Barnsey, learn as you go, sharing goals and mistakes for us viewers to hopefully not make the same, it's worth going through the comments. There have been some fantastic knowledge shared
That is a spectacular looking colour,and how good is it to spray with a quality gun
It was all in the gun,, absolutely worth every cent. Extremely happy with that colour as well!
Hey bro how much did it cost you till now on the body ? Just a rough estimate please thanks and mean Ute for sure.
Hey mate, Minus tools costs just panels, paint and materials for the body only probably around 5k so not much really. The biggest cost by an absolute mile is getting the tools to do the work and the labour/time. If i was to do an hourly rate for time alone it would have to be north of 100k at a modest $50 an hour. So if you can do the work yourself you will save 100k and all you need is 5k to get the shell sorted. cheers
@@BarnesysBuilds thanks for the reply 5k aud so am looking around 7 k nzd. My Ute needs the same work as yours. You would be the first RUclipsr I messaged and wasn’t hoping for a reply lol. My Ute needs the same repairs as yours maybe more am on third week as per your videos . Great work man. I was lucky enough to come across one and now I have it :) . All thanks to you .
@@ShadowtheGermanShepard5036 yeah nice work mate, you will enjoy the build process, hard work but bloody rewarding to learn new skills. Good luck mate🤙
You must be so wrapped to finally see the colour going on. Shame about the moth. Keep up the great work and you will be at those shows before you know it.
Yes very excited! Although the moth was a disaster really as i need to totally repaint that tailgate now...
Hey mate what compressor do you use?
Genysis, I did an episode on the full specs
@@BarnesysBuilds oh gotcha, just looked at it, where did you get it from I can’t find it anywhere?
@@jesserowe5346 looks like they might be no longer sold under that brand. They are all Chinese made anyway so should be able to find the same spec. I got it through bluediamond machinery in Melbourne
@@BarnesysBuilds okay, thanks mate appreciate it.
When are we going to get an engine update mate?
Very soon! It's looking to be finished within 2 weeks. So will update soon