Most of yall really only watched the first 5 seconds and started typing. He explains everything with good reason. At no point in time did he say if you use a pedal based unit you can't also use a paddle. Pay attention before opening your trap.
Valid points but Im a serious kayak tournament angler, I have a motor for long hauls, pedal drive for shorter distances plus my paddle for shallow, weedy or tight to maneuver areas. I find all three have their time and place. I find I use the pedal drive the most when Im fishing in deeper water and I have wind or current pushing me, the pedal drive allows me to keep myself in one spot while having my hands free.
Nice I will be getting one one day but for now I got my sit inside. It's serving me well in skinny water I can glide over 6 inches of water. While the guy with the peddle drive has to portage or get out. It's cool though when he dropped that drive down wish I was that cool.
Your tip over at the end demonstrated my biggest gripe with virtually all late model fishing kayaks; the seats are WAY too high, which raises the center of gravity. To compensate, the mfg’s bloat the hull design into a pseudo pontoon boat and we end up with 12’ x 36” tanks with ridiculously poor handling. Guys become convinced they need a pedal drive because that’s the only way to get those barges to move through the water.
I went back and forth on a prop drive or fin drive and I'm so happy I went with fin drive... I never have to pull my drive out in shallow water because the fins tuck right to the bottom of my boat (that's HUGE when fishing) I keep a small single paddle for when I need to hook a wall or do a sharp spin... I did 13 miles of nonstop run and gun fishing yesterday, I was a decent workout after mile 6 but the fin drive is adjustable for torque or speed (another reason the fin drive is better than prop)..... My average speed is 2.8mph (comfortable speed) 4.4mph in short burst if I need to get out of the way of a boat (not maintainable) ... I personally would never go back to a paddle or swap to a prop.... Most important is FIND A HULL DESIGN THAT ISN'T TIPPY, I can stand and fish for hours with zero fear of falling or rolling....
I bought a Jackson Cruise FD back in February. I too live in MN. I find myself fishing with the prop flipped up a lot as well but my thing is, what does that matter? When I want to move to another spot, I feel I get there with little effort while peddling. Yes, I have used the paddle more than I thought I would but I'm ok with that. I do have to say that if I were to do it all over again, I think I would just get a paddle yak but now that I have a peddle yak, I don't see a reason to get rid of it since I know I'll lose money if I trade it in. It's a personal preference thing for sure. One last thing, the weight is a big deal. The Cruise is one of the lighter peddle yaks out there and it's still heavy. I load mine in my truck and it isn't as easy as I want it to be after a day of fishing. Anyway, I hope this helps someone looking to buy.
I prefer a pedal drive over paddle. 1. Hands free 2. Cover more water 3. Instant reverse in pedal (brands: Native, feel free, Jackson, etc.) 4. Hobie has fin pedal system where you don’t have to clear out the weeds/grass. I own a paddle kayak for a year and there’s some benefits to it but it doesn’t suit mystyle of fishing. After using my buddy Topwater 106 on the lake; I realized I needed to get a pedal drive kayak. It’s going to be heavier but it will definitely benefit my style of fishing.
I agree completely. Pelican also has a version of fin drive....the hydryve II. I just bring a paddle with me, use my anchor, etc. I think it's perfect and I will not go back to a standard paddle.
@@jacobjordan8340 this is my first foot drive and I love it. I haven't added much. Keep a small paddle incase you need it to go backwards really fast and you can't turn your pedals around. An anchor for when you find the fish, you can just tie something heavy to the yak. I've used it on small water and big lakes. I've loved it, the pedals will click so if it bothers you, you will want to get some silicon spray for lubrication. Academy price matched a sale REI had and I have their card so I got it like 20% off. First year has been great. Carry it on top of my 4runner with two straps and those foam blocks.
Make sure if you get the pelican get the Hydryve II system. I went through a ton of grass a few weeks ago and it never got caught up and just crossed through. But it did slow it down.
@@coreybarlow4113 sure but maybe mixed with a paddle it could be more comfortable?! Also, I’ve heard that the Old Town PDL 120 has a very efficient drive compared to the Hobie in terms of cruising speed. However, for pure torque and short speed bursts the Hobie is pretty much the fastest pedal drive for a kayak. I’ve heard they’re a little pricey but the quality is great and they’re always trying to innovate their design. Shallow pedaling is definitely a pro but I’ve also heard that maintenance is much more expensive on the Hobie’s due to their fins being so expensive. I own neither and never been on a kayak so I’m going based on the research I’ve been doing on RUclips… not very scientific but it’s all I got. If anyone knows what the best pedal drive is I’d like to hear the pro’s/cons
@@greg6162 Hobie is actually a LOT pricey! My Hammerhead Kayaks Bull Shark can use either a prop drive or a fin drive, and I have both for it, and I'm still in for way less than a Hobie costs. So far, I prefer the prop drive for the instant and hands-free reverse, but about half the people I've had to try out both drives liked the fin drive for the torque and extra speed. My goto kayak is still my paddle only Pelican Catch 120, but I'm also really loving the Bull Shark, too! Stay safe.
He says weight is a reason. He removed the seat before he put his kayak on the roof , you would also remove the drive making it the same weight. You can steer backwards in my pedal drive so no issue there. Super thick weed just raise the drive. He is correct you can position youself easier with a paddle but you cant fish with a paddle in you hands. I just switch to pedal drive and it is a huge advantage. I can rig up on my way to my spot, control cuurent with out an anchor, have both hands to fish is a game changer. I still paddle at times but 95% of the time i am using the drive.
unlike most people in this comment section i agree with you. Pedal drives are bulky and take up too much space paddles are just easier to deal with and easier to use. Trying to take a pedal drive down a river or shallow creek would be a nightmare.
I am 65 and have had several paddle kayaks, all SOT, used for lake and inshore fishing and river floating. I will soon buy my first pedal kayak and plan to go with the Native or Hurricane 12’ since they are the lightest and easiest for me to handle. The pedal kayak will do the following for me: cover more water with less effort (use those big leg muscles and save my paddling arms), hands-free forward and reverse when fishing and being able to keep a fishing position while in wind and current. I find those are my biggest challenges now with a straight paddle kayak.
I would suggest to try before you buy, they are not nearly as maneuverable as you would think, you need water to be moving over the rudder to turn which means you need to be moving, going straight forward or back is easier but as far as maneuvering for fishing I find a paddle way easier. And as far as covering water I personally find it easier paddling, the peddle systems are slow and cumbersome imho
Most common one for you freshwater and inland water guys is weeds and the draft and all good points I'm sure an efficient paddle stroke for a seasoned paddler is more natural over a longer distance. I have a seastream angler 120 pd mostly coastal, but we have a fast run of tide, and it handles it with ease but in the same place with the 14" paddle i am working hard to tread water at times. If i was on flatter water without the tide i would take the paddle and the main reason is deck space and most people never mention it. The space to work on your bait and rigs on a console not undoable on a peddle and if you only spin not such an issue but worth considering also the rails on a peddle need to be clear of your legs or they are almost useless. Fair play for leaving the end in it happens. 👏👏👍👍
Thx. Think I saved myself a lot of frustration and prob money. I've paddled for 5 decades...curious about the pedal and motor yaks... hut I think I'll go jon boat and call it good.
I am going back to a boat also, getting a river jet again, I will still keep the kayaks but I find myself fishing less because I don't like loading unloading and getting gear together. Back in my boat days everything was easy and in the boat ready to go, hook up the trailer and go.
Thank you for helping me decide on a paddle kayak. Those reasons were solid. My arms doesn't get tired so easily but my legs do and sometimes it cramps up too.
Im a big guy at 6' 5" n 300lb .. I have had both Pedal and Paddle kayaks . It seems to me the Pedal kayaks are getting wider for stability but the latest trend is High Low Seating ... You just proved the higher seat positions make the Kayak very unstable .. I have had two Hobies , Jackson Cuda , Native Manta Ray 14 and A Moken 14.. The Hobies were before Adjustable Seating became all the rage.. The only one I have ever Flipped was the Jackson Cuda 14 with the High Low seating .. It felt very Tippy .. The High seats are not for me .
I've been battling this decision, I think I'm going with just the paddle. The lake I fish 90% of the time is all weeds and lily pads. Thanks for the vidio, it helped me decide
For mw it was a no go, I end up fishing alot with the paddle on my lap so I can make adjustments in the ind and for fish, everyone says you can back up with the peddles, which is true but you cant adjust yourself it goes which ever way it wants
You can do it. He doesn't understand how to do it. If you have reverse, and you can steer with the rudder controls, you can keep your position. Or raise the rudder. Lol
I tend to fully agree with your video statements. I own a Peddle Boat ( Pelican MONACO DXL Angler) and an Old Town Sportsman 106 (Paddle Only Version ). Both have their place in the fishing realm but the Paddle kayak is must more convenient, easier to transport and maneuverability.
LOOK AT BKC KAYAKS 1300 13' THEY ARE NOT BAD FOR THE PRICE IM STILL DEBATING IF I WANT BKC 13' WITH PEDAL AND TROLLING OR SPEND IT ON GOOD PADDLE ONE WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. 1 HAVE 1600
Just got off the water for the first time this year, it definitely is, takes a while to pick back up, but after the first hour I was right back in the groove, the thing screwing me up tonight more than anything was the wind switching directions every time I turned around.
I've been fishing with a 11ft Ocean Kayak Trident for about 8 years and still cannot find something as light and nimble to upgrade to. I am on the same page about pedal drive, too heavy for what it's worth. The later models went up to 70lb but mine is older and closer to 50lb which is perfect to load on a truck or car. I have a Helix 5, crate on the back, and peddle controlled rudder that I've added. My only complaint is the seat being low and sitting in water half the time. I'm always looking for replacement ideas.
I agree 100%. Very shallow water is an issue too. My neighbor has a peddle kayak and i have a padle. When we enter a very shallow creek he has to completly pull his pedddle unit out before he can get in the creek. Fast moving water piles a lot of sand at the entrance and he would always get stuck.....have to get out of his boat and drag it over the sand. Other people say you can get going to where you want to go faster, but the difference between hm and I going to the same spot with is maybe 3/4 of a mile is maybe 2 minutes. Wouldn't suprise me at all that he got a new boat over the winter.
Kayaks seems to be fine whit padles, but pedal boats are fine in tourist rent near hotels. Nice video to think about the differenses bethween both systems. The weigth of the kayak is also important when the wessel has to be moved on the ground bethween the lakes or in narrow rivers. Thanks from video.
there is the thing, NOT EVERYONE FITS ALL KAYAKS!!! sometiumes paddle kayaks work better for others, and sometimes pedal drive works for others. for me i would be hybrid. pedal for long hauls, and i am looking at one that the rudder flips up on the kayak. that way i can get into the nooks and crannys. this is a very good review
Thank you for your thoughts and experience on the matter. Being on a tight budget, I've been battling with the decision on whether it was worth the additional expense to get a pedal drive kayak.
If you can get a go on one. When the drive is submerged it takes more effort to turn it and like anything it can feel fine for five mins and after an hour it can still get draining. Steady pace once you are moving and for most people they are fine but in my opinion better suited to the ocean or deeper water.
My reason I didnt get a pedal kayak was cost. I ended up spending almost the same amount rigging my yak as a pedal unit and I dont even take most of those things with me out on the water anymore. I regret not getting one but now Im looking at a trolling motor instead so I dont have to paddle nor pedal. 😂
Hi!! I’m new to the kayak fishing world, but not fishing. Do you have any videos on how to maneuver paddling and fishing? I’m really happy to hear I don’t have to buy a petal kayak!!!
Interesting points of view. I'm about to get a new kayak for ocean fishing. There is a bit of seaweed in my area. I live in Shoalwater Western Australia.
If you’re fishing in the ocean and going to cover distances get the pedal kayak, you can still use the paddle when you want too. Plus you can’t paddle and fish at the same time. You can pedal and fish at same time, your hands are free. This guy is a fool, he’s just sitting and spinning around and flips the kayak. I think this guy is one of those ppl that got to disagree with everyone and just got to do everything opposite as everyone else. Like he said at first pedal kayaks are all the rage so he’s one of those guys that just isn’t going to like it cause everyone else does. If you’re a serious fisherman then just think about hands free fishing. And I seen lots of reviews of ppl going right through weeds no problem with pedal drives. But like I said you still can paddle when need too.
Great video! Kudos for leaving the flip in! I left mine in on one of my vids, too, and then incorporated it into another! L I only had experience with paddle kayaks until I lost a big fish last year that I probably would've landed in a pedal kayak...I started researching, I wanted a propeller drive, for the instant reverse, but it would not be my primary kayak, as most of the water I fish is super shallow with a good bit of current and obstructions, and a paddle kayak is just better suited for that, so I wanted a pedal drive that was affordable, too. I ended up with a Hammerhead Kayaks Bull Shark, almost unique in that the propeller drive and a fin drive are interchangeable on the same boat, and so far I love it! The fin drive was only another $400 after dropping $1500 for the Bull Shark with the propeller drive, and I'm still out the door for about 2/3 or half the cost of some higher end boats that only use one type of drive or the other. My paddle only Pelican Catch 120 is still my goto kayak most of the time, but I'm definitely not mad about it when I decide I need the pedal drive for this trip or that one. In fact, I currently have trips planned that I'll be using the Pelican on, and I have trips planned specifically to take advantage of the pedal drive offered by the Bull Shark. Oh, and as a side note: the Bull Shark is only 62 lbs without the drive...6 lbs less than my Pelican. Stay safe!
Never heard of the bullshark before that sounds interesting, I have a pelican catch power 10 right now and the same Jackson Cruise.After breaking both clavicles last year, I thought I was going to have to go to power or pedal to enjoy a fishing kayak. But they have both healed and I am now looking at deifferent options for a paddle only kayak
Peddle drives malfunction sooner or later and in moving water you can't always foresee shallow bedrock or boulders. I rented a peddle drive once and ended up paddling it most of the time and it was a slug in the water to paddle.
useful info. i'm a similar size as you but i've been riding bikes for years so i think the pedal drive will work out well for me but i don't have one yet so i can't say for certain. if you get on a bike, even for short distances a couple days a week, you might be able to build those pedal muscles up within a couple months. i'm not a super serious cyclist or anything like that, i just ride a few miles casually every 2-3 days, but i've been doing that for years so i can keep pedaling even when i'm pooped after longer rides. if that's something you'd be interested in, you might even be able to pick up a stationary bike for free or cheap somewhere and give that a go. i imagine you don't care since you sold your pedal kayak, but thought i'd mention it.
I suffered a head injury after a fall from my rafters this winter so right now I am under a no bike riding rule. before this I was a regular on a bike but for some reason the whole pedal kayak never worked for me. IAM still paddle kayaking which is good exercise for my shoulders that received alot of trauma from the fall also
First a tip for RRTOD... You are way too high on that yak! Get a marker bouey and set it somewhere loose on your yak so WHEN you roll it, you'll know where all your stuff sank! On with my comments... I recently got a pedal kayak... I learned very quickly... it's to get you from point A to point B very quickly. They are NOT very meneuverable. I learned also that they are pretty fast but if you are not a bike rider or used to PEDALLING. DO NOT RUN IT HARD FOR VERY LONG!! You'll regret it later on with severe cramps in your legs...SEVERE!!! I'm 60 yrs old and weigh 230 pounds and not in the greatest of shape but not out of shape either. The pedal kayaks are cumbersome and heavy but like anything else you just have to accept it and learn how to load, unload and use it. I did spend more time with my Paddle in my hands aside from when I was trolling.
There is definite disadvantages to kayaks like the jackson, how ever, I can paddle that thing farther and faster than any pedal drive I have ever been in, but she is more tippy in the high position for seating, but when it is in the low position it is pretty stable.
Yeah I have the 103 and it’s definitely difficult to flip! I was playing around on it couple days ago trying to flip it to practice getting back in and it’s tough to flip! Lol! My only complaint is the seat is low and hurts my back peddling after a while. Otherwise it’s a great boat!
I’m getting a Brooklyn PKC 12 pedal kayak because I want to do saltwater fishing with it. I can effectively fish without having to paddle when casting to the grass and can just go in a straight line no problem. I also want to go to the first and second Bowie and fish the jetties where I live with it too offshore. There is a spot about 300 yards off of the jetties where it’s a crazy drop off and I’ve heard of a bunch of fish around it. Boats are always slaying over there. And about 200 yards from the jetties is a hole with tons of rocks which hold a bunch of reds so I want a pedal so I can get out there happy instead of being drenched from paddling for 20 minutes
There is alot of good kayaks for bigger guys, I just sold a Pelican Catch 120 that handles bigger people perfectly and is fairly cheap. There is also Nu Canoes which are super stable, and a whole host of bigger yaks that would handle a 300lb dude perfectly
Yeah I would probably be a little more careful in Florida or saltwater. Although if you roll here in late fall before the water turns hard there is a good chance of hypothermia
I agree. I bought a hobie passport and I sold it after a couple of rides. I want a sea kayak. If I want to work my legs I'll ride my mountain bike. For arm a sea kayak will suffice. Sea kayaks are faster and versatile where as pedal are not for all water ways.
The number 1 reason to buy a peddle kayak is trolling. Watch any video of a peddle running 2 poles at a time and you'll see why. I went kokanee fishing yesterday and it was hot fishing but a ton of very small kokes so I had to stop and reel in every time a micro koke got hooked and the other line with a dodger fell to the bottom so I had to reel that on in too pain in the butt. Would not have to stop with a peddle kayak. Another reason for a peddle is down riggers again you not have to stop to let it go.
I tried out a friends pelican catch 100 hd2 today cause i was considering getting a kayak to fish with..... the thing wouldnt move for shit and the pedals were waaay to close for me. I was basically beating my knees against my chest. Im 5 11" And when i tried using the paddle..... it still didnt move for shit :v. I dont wanna spend all day getting to the spot i wanna be at then have to go right back when i can spend the same amount on a flat bottom boat :v
you could but my big issue with the pedal was how much space it took up and how heavy they were. I also feel a paddle is more efficient for most of my use, peddles suck in weeds and anytime you are around anytime of cover in the water
Pedal kayaks are designed to cover more water without fatiguing your arms so you can fish for longer. Idk about you, but if I've been kayaking down a river and fishing for several hours, the last thing I want to do is paddle up river against the current and destroy my arms and back. As for maneuverability, why dont you just use a paddle when in shallow/weeded areas and pull up the pedal drive? Even with the drive in, there is still plenty of room to stand in and even turn around if need be depending on what make and model you get. As for weight, they don't necessarily weigh any more than a normal top water paddle kayak when you take the drive out, which I would assume most people don't transport their kayaks with the drive installed. Just purchased the old town top water 120 pdl and it weighs 2lbs less than my emotions stealth pro angler paddle kayak. I use a trailer now to transport them, so I don't need to worry about lifting it on my car. Conclusion: pedal kayaks are just as good if not better. The minimal effort to pull up the drive in shallow and weedy areas is not a big deal at all. They cover more water with less fatigue and leave your hands free. You also still have the option to use a paddle if you want to with a pedal kayak.
Ok that's your opinion, most lakes and rivers I fish you would have the drive up 90% of the time if you get to put it down at all. I also never go down river, always up, but that's just me. And as far as the drive is out of your way, you must have a different opinion of what out of your way is, they are always in your way. To each his own but I will stick with my paddle, you can declare what ever you want but my opinion differs
Well done with some good points. The operative word is "lake". Those who fish where waters are swift, tides coming in or going out etc. will find a pedal kayak well worth it; you can't paddle to keep yourself in position and fish at the same time. I was going to suggest the Pelican Bass Raider 10e which costs 1/3 of the price of some pedal kayaks, is more stable and roomy but requires a motor (electric or gas). However after buying one new and owning it for 2 years I CANNOT recommend it because 1) water accumulates between the "clam shell" hulls and is a PITA to get out and, although Pelican states "stainless steel" fasteners are used, the staples holding the upper and lower halves are rusting like crazy and 2) lousy i.e. non-existent warranty support.
I think you really have to look at where your fishing, fishing the Texas cost a pedal drive makes it a lot more enjoyable, plus I cover around 20 to 30 miles of water every time I go out, the pedal drive fits my fishing style and location perfectly
You are probably correct about that for most people, for whatever reason I still find paddling easier and more comfortable, despite walking miles a week and staying in shape the sitting down and peddling thing has never worked for me, I recently tried my fil's recumbent bike and didn't like that thing either. I have never tried the fin style peddles I don't know if that would make a difference though
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors I think for the waters you fish a paddle is perfect for you, I don't recommend any pedal drives for weeds and it sounds like you fish mostly small bodies of water so the extra wait would definitely be a draw back for you
I keep thinking I want a pedal kayak. But the 3 reasons I havent dont it yet are 1.) Cost. I bought a Lifetime Yukon kayak new on sale for $400 and actually really like it. Its more stable then the Jackson Cuda I had. And very comfortable to fish in for hours. 2.) I love having a bunch of open deck space in front of me and I know the pedals would be in my way a lot. And 3.) I also bass fish everytime I fish. So I spend a lot of my time in really shallow water or in weeds and lilly pads. In fact one lake I fish is covered in 70-75 percent lilly pads in the summer. So really Im not sure how much Id ever use the pedals? And I dont really want them in my way when I cant use them. My main reason for wanting one is just on windier days really. But I have a hard time justifying spending $1500 or more for something I may not end up using much.
Looking to get into kayaking, completely new to it though. Would having the pedal and paddle be a viable option, or would that be to corny? Lol. Just seems like it would be better for exersize and help u go a little faster.
In my experience, the two don’t usually go well together because a lot of pedal kayaks have you in a semi-reclined position which is jot conducive to good strokes with a paddle. I haven’t tried them all, though.
Hi thank you for the video. I lived in California all of my life, cycling around 150 miles per week. I loved to kayak in Ventura and Monterey Ca. Soon after I injured my right hand and elbow so cycling is out now. But I know I could paddle for a while, pedal for a while. Is it possible to have both? Could you recommend a decent kayak that offers both? We've since moved to Wisconsin and I would like to explore more of the lakes here. Thank you in advance. Greg
If you were a genius you would have heard me say that in the video, you would also know that in a kayak it is called a paddle, and not a f'n oar. Get a f'n clue loser
I think that was a great review, But I do think it's best to have the uses of both. As a lot of people get into kayaking for different reasons. If it for exercise both would be great. I do find for sea fishing it's best to have the use of both. But in a lake or river I prefer just paddles.
rod in one hand paddle in the other, its not like you can control where you are backing up with a pedal drive in reverse, the rudder don't turn you, as soon as the fish turns the front of the kayak you have no control where you are going in reverse. I can control my movements alot better with a paddle
I think these guys sit around looking for excuses. I've never had any trouble with the propeller getting tangled in weeds or stuck in mud. Also, I've never fell in the water.
all fixed by pulling up the drive after u get to your spot. sooo many reasons to go pedal cause you can still paddle it. as far as removing the drive to cartop. it takes 4 seconds. give me a break
then the drive is sitting there in your way, fish the lakes I fish and you will see, weeds every where and the drive is useless and in your way the whole day, different strokes for different folks, people get so pissed when you say you don't like something they do.
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors im not pissed. just don't feel you made very valid points. to each their own. my drive when out sits all the way up front on the well. very much out of the way. every complaint you had was easily fixed or very minor. like the drive when you cartop? I mean it takes 3 seconds to remove the drive and put it in your back seat.
@@KayakKingdom pedal drive kayaks are heavier even without the drive, they are extra beefy around the drive area to lessen flex, usually around 10l-15 lbs heavier than a comparable non drive unit, it makes a difference going from 80lbs to 95-100lbs.. My points are my points if you didnt like the video give it a thumbs down, I dont give two shits, you fish the way you want to and I will fish the way I want to. I simply made a video stating why I got rid of it and why I wouldn't go back.
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors wow bud. you don't have to get so offensive. just disagreeing. did you think the entire world 🌎 was gonna agree with you. jeez. your gonna hate youtube if you expect everyone to agree with you and tell them you don't "give 2 shits" about their opinion.
WAAAAaaaaaaa! I had a paddle for a year then got a peddle 3 years ago and haven't used my paddle since. to each his own though. I think your looking for excuse's. Take your paddle with you, buy a truck, good grief. P.S. your seat is way to high on your Kayak, I think you'll tip over a lot more with it that high.
Not good, not enough clearance to use the peddle drive, but it's the same hull as my current kayak and they paddle good up stream, but the peddle drive is worthless to bring with, it takes up to much room for the limited use it would see
Most of yall really only watched the first 5 seconds and started typing. He explains everything with good reason. At no point in time did he say if you use a pedal based unit you can't also use a paddle. Pay attention before opening your trap.
Valid points but Im a serious kayak tournament angler, I have a motor for long hauls, pedal drive for shorter distances plus my paddle for shallow, weedy or tight to maneuver areas. I find all three have their time and place. I find I use the pedal drive the most when Im fishing in deeper water and I have wind or current pushing me, the pedal drive allows me to keep myself in one spot while having my hands free.
Nice I will be getting one one day but for now I got my sit inside. It's serving me well in skinny water I can glide over 6 inches of water. While the guy with the peddle drive has to portage or get out. It's cool though when he dropped that drive down wish I was that cool.
I gave him a thumbs up because he fell in. actually a good video. still trying to decide which one I want to get. this helps
kepler240 paddle one is way cheaper
Your tip over at the end demonstrated my biggest gripe with virtually all late model fishing kayaks; the seats are WAY too high, which raises the center of gravity. To compensate, the mfg’s bloat the hull design into a pseudo pontoon boat and we end up with 12’ x 36” tanks with ridiculously poor handling. Guys become convinced they need a pedal drive because that’s the only way to get those barges to move through the water.
Exactly Right , most Pedal Drive Boats are wide ...
Look into the Crescent Lite Tackle.
True. They are great when strictly in clear deep water. But extremely difficult to control when just paddling
I went back and forth on a prop drive or fin drive and I'm so happy I went with fin drive... I never have to pull my drive out in shallow water because the fins tuck right to the bottom of my boat (that's HUGE when fishing) I keep a small single paddle for when I need to hook a wall or do a sharp spin... I did 13 miles of nonstop run and gun fishing yesterday, I was a decent workout after mile 6 but the fin drive is adjustable for torque or speed (another reason the fin drive is better than prop)..... My average speed is 2.8mph (comfortable speed) 4.4mph in short burst if I need to get out of the way of a boat (not maintainable) ... I personally would never go back to a paddle or swap to a prop.... Most important is FIND A HULL DESIGN THAT ISN'T TIPPY, I can stand and fish for hours with zero fear of falling or rolling....
Why not just bring a paddle on a pedal drive to fix most of those situations?
The pedal drive also takes up way to much room for my liking, I like a nice open cockpit area, and a pedal drive just doesn't allow that
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors so no answer for not taking a paddle? #1 answer would be backup safety?
@@timgile8144 HE DID MENTION PADDLING WHILE PROP IS UP
@@timgile8144 he just gave you and answer dumbass 😂
they don't paddle as well
I bought a Jackson Cruise FD back in February. I too live in MN. I find myself fishing with the prop flipped up a lot as well but my thing is, what does that matter? When I want to move to another spot, I feel I get there with little effort while peddling. Yes, I have used the paddle more than I thought I would but I'm ok with that. I do have to say that if I were to do it all over again, I think I would just get a paddle yak but now that I have a peddle yak, I don't see a reason to get rid of it since I know I'll lose money if I trade it in. It's a personal preference thing for sure. One last thing, the weight is a big deal. The Cruise is one of the lighter peddle yaks out there and it's still heavy. I load mine in my truck and it isn't as easy as I want it to be after a day of fishing. Anyway, I hope this helps someone looking to buy.
I prefer a pedal drive over paddle.
1. Hands free
2. Cover more water
3. Instant reverse in pedal (brands: Native, feel free, Jackson, etc.)
4. Hobie has fin pedal system where you don’t have to clear out the weeds/grass.
I own a paddle kayak for a year and there’s some benefits to it but it doesn’t suit mystyle of fishing. After using my buddy Topwater 106 on the lake; I realized I needed to get a pedal drive kayak. It’s going to be heavier but it will definitely benefit my style of fishing.
I agree completely. Pelican also has a version of fin drive....the hydryve II. I just bring a paddle with me, use my anchor, etc. I think it's perfect and I will not go back to a standard paddle.
@@cross_fire_ this is the exact yak im looking to upgrade to. Have you enjoyed it? Any complaints?
@@jacobjordan8340 this is my first foot drive and I love it. I haven't added much. Keep a small paddle incase you need it to go backwards really fast and you can't turn your pedals around. An anchor for when you find the fish, you can just tie something heavy to the yak. I've used it on small water and big lakes. I've loved it, the pedals will click so if it bothers you, you will want to get some silicon spray for lubrication. Academy price matched a sale REI had and I have their card so I got it like 20% off. First year has been great. Carry it on top of my 4runner with two straps and those foam blocks.
Make sure if you get the pelican get the Hydryve II system. I went through a ton of grass a few weeks ago and it never got caught up and just crossed through. But it did slow it down.
@@cross_fire_ awesome, thanks for you reply. I'm picking up my 110 this weekend. And yes its the 2.0 model. Cheers!
The pedal drive is to get you to your fishing area easier . then use the paddle.
Yes
I live in MN as well. Pedal won't work well in the spots we hit for quality fish
Using a paddle with a 12x36 pdl yak is wildy more difficult than just using a paddle yak
@@coreybarlow4113 sure but maybe mixed with a paddle it could be more comfortable?! Also, I’ve heard that the Old Town PDL 120 has a very efficient drive compared to the Hobie in terms of cruising speed. However, for pure torque and short speed bursts the Hobie is pretty much the fastest pedal drive for a kayak. I’ve heard they’re a little pricey but the quality is great and they’re always trying to innovate their design. Shallow pedaling is definitely a pro but I’ve also heard that maintenance is much more expensive on the Hobie’s due to their fins being so expensive. I own neither and never been on a kayak so I’m going based on the research I’ve been doing on RUclips… not very scientific but it’s all I got. If anyone knows what the best pedal drive is I’d like to hear the pro’s/cons
@@greg6162 Hobie is actually a LOT pricey! My Hammerhead Kayaks Bull Shark can use either a prop drive or a fin drive, and I have both for it, and I'm still in for way less than a Hobie costs. So far, I prefer the prop drive for the instant and hands-free reverse, but about half the people I've had to try out both drives liked the fin drive for the torque and extra speed. My goto kayak is still my paddle only Pelican Catch 120, but I'm also really loving the Bull Shark, too! Stay safe.
He says weight is a reason. He removed the seat before he put his kayak on the roof , you would also remove the drive making it the same weight. You can steer backwards in my pedal drive so no issue there. Super thick weed just raise the drive. He is correct you can position youself easier with a paddle but you cant fish with a paddle in you hands. I just switch to pedal drive and it is a huge advantage. I can rig up on my way to my spot, control cuurent with out an anchor, have both hands to fish is a game changer. I still paddle at times but 95% of the time i am using the drive.
You just mentioned all the reason i ordered a pedal kayak
unlike most people in this comment section i agree with you. Pedal drives are bulky and take up too much space paddles are just easier to deal with and easier to use. Trying to take a pedal drive down a river or shallow creek would be a nightmare.
Reason 6, with a paddle in your hand you can use a kayaking technique called "bracing" to prevent/ stop a flip or roll over.
I am 65 and have had several paddle kayaks, all SOT, used for lake and inshore fishing and river floating. I will soon buy my first pedal kayak and plan to go with the Native or Hurricane 12’ since they are the lightest and easiest for me to handle. The pedal kayak will do the following for me: cover more water with less effort (use those big leg muscles and save my paddling arms), hands-free forward and reverse when fishing and being able to keep a fishing position while in wind and current. I find those are my biggest challenges now with a straight paddle kayak.
I would suggest to try before you buy, they are not nearly as maneuverable as you would think, you need water to be moving over the rudder to turn which means you need to be moving, going straight forward or back is easier but as far as maneuvering for fishing I find a paddle way easier. And as far as covering water I personally find it easier paddling, the peddle systems are slow and cumbersome imho
Most common one for you freshwater and inland water guys is weeds and the draft and all good points I'm sure an efficient paddle stroke for a seasoned paddler is more natural over a longer distance. I have a seastream angler 120 pd mostly coastal, but we have a fast run of tide, and it handles it with ease but in the same place with the 14" paddle i am working hard to tread water at times. If i was on flatter water without the tide i would take the paddle and the main reason is deck space and most people never mention it. The space to work on your bait and rigs on a console not undoable on a peddle and if you only spin not such an issue but worth considering also the rails on a peddle need to be clear of your legs or they are almost useless. Fair play for leaving the end in it happens. 👏👏👍👍
That's why we put lids on our crates and keep them strapped.
I wish i could test drive kayaks before I buy
I'm trying to decide if my next one would be a peddle or paddle kayak. Thank you so much for your honesty. You may have saved me a lot of money!!!!
Thx. Think I saved myself a lot of frustration and prob money. I've paddled for 5 decades...curious about the pedal and motor yaks... hut I think I'll go jon boat and call it good.
I am going back to a boat also, getting a river jet again, I will still keep the kayaks but I find myself fishing less because I don't like loading unloading and getting gear together. Back in my boat days everything was easy and in the boat ready to go, hook up the trailer and go.
Thank you for helping me decide on a paddle kayak. Those reasons were solid. My arms doesn't get tired so easily but my legs do and sometimes it cramps up too.
I have found that I can cover more distance and I am also way more comfortable paddling, it's just something I have gotten used to over the years
Pedal kayak is perfect for me when I'm trolling for stripe bassss! 💃🏻
Im a big guy at 6' 5" n 300lb ..
I have had both Pedal and Paddle kayaks .
It seems to me the Pedal kayaks are getting wider for stability but the latest trend is High Low Seating ... You just proved the higher seat positions make the Kayak very unstable ..
I have had two Hobies , Jackson Cuda , Native Manta Ray 14 and A Moken 14..
The Hobies were before Adjustable Seating became all the rage..
The only one I have ever Flipped was the Jackson Cuda 14 with the High Low seating .. It felt very Tippy ..
The High seats are not for me .
I've been battling this decision, I think I'm going with just the paddle. The lake I fish 90% of the time is all weeds and lily pads. Thanks for the vidio, it helped me decide
Man see I never even thought about the whole not being able to spin & turn in place thing. Good video!
For mw it was a no go, I end up fishing alot with the paddle on my lap so I can make adjustments in the ind and for fish, everyone says you can back up with the peddles, which is true but you cant adjust yourself it goes which ever way it wants
You can do it. He doesn't understand how to do it. If you have reverse, and you can steer with the rudder controls, you can keep your position. Or raise the rudder. Lol
I tend to fully agree with your video statements. I own a Peddle Boat ( Pelican MONACO DXL Angler) and an Old Town Sportsman 106 (Paddle Only Version ). Both have their place in the fishing realm but the Paddle kayak is must more convenient, easier to transport and maneuverability.
Reason no.6 too expensive
LOOK AT BKC KAYAKS 1300 13' THEY ARE NOT BAD FOR THE PRICE IM STILL DEBATING IF I WANT BKC 13' WITH PEDAL AND TROLLING OR SPEND IT ON GOOD PADDLE ONE WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. 1 HAVE 1600
I feel like that was a great video, well explained. Thank you
The art of paddling is greatly underrated when fishing
Just got off the water for the first time this year, it definitely is, takes a while to pick back up, but after the first hour I was right back in the groove, the thing screwing me up tonight more than anything was the wind switching directions every time I turned around.
Thanks for saving me a bunch of cash there bud i'm new to kayak fishing and i really appreciate the honesty.
I've been fishing with a 11ft Ocean Kayak Trident for about 8 years and still cannot find something as light and nimble to upgrade to. I am on the same page about pedal drive, too heavy for what it's worth. The later models went up to 70lb but mine is older and closer to 50lb which is perfect to load on a truck or car. I have a Helix 5, crate on the back, and peddle controlled rudder that I've added. My only complaint is the seat being low and sitting in water half the time. I'm always looking for replacement ideas.
I agree 100%. Very shallow water is an issue too. My neighbor has a peddle kayak and i have a padle. When we enter a very shallow creek he has to completly pull his pedddle unit out before he can get in the creek. Fast moving water piles a lot of sand at the entrance and he would always get stuck.....have to get out of his boat and drag it over the sand. Other people say you can get going to where you want to go faster, but the difference between hm and I going to the same spot with is maybe 3/4 of a mile is maybe 2 minutes. Wouldn't suprise me at all that he got a new boat over the winter.
Kayaks seems to be fine whit padles, but pedal boats are fine in tourist rent near hotels. Nice video to think about the differenses bethween both systems. The weigth of the kayak is also important when the wessel has to be moved on the ground bethween the lakes or in narrow rivers. Thanks from video.
at 1:10 you scared a small fish when your paddle hit the yak hahah
Just cause it pedals don’t mean you can’t still use your paddle when you want too. 🤦🏻♂️
there is the thing, NOT EVERYONE FITS ALL KAYAKS!!! sometiumes paddle kayaks work better for others, and sometimes pedal drive works for others. for me i would be hybrid. pedal for long hauls, and i am looking at one that the rudder flips up on the kayak. that way i can get into the nooks and crannys. this is a very good review
Thank you for your thoughts and experience on the matter. Being on a tight budget, I've been battling with the decision on whether it was worth the additional expense to get a pedal drive kayak.
If you can get a go on one. When the drive is submerged it takes more effort to turn it and like anything it can feel fine for five mins and after an hour it can still get draining. Steady pace once you are moving and for most people they are fine but in my opinion better suited to the ocean or deeper water.
What is your opinion about offshore fishing pedal or paddle? Thanks from Greece
My reason I didnt get a pedal kayak was cost. I ended up spending almost the same amount rigging my yak as a pedal unit and I dont even take most of those things with me out on the water anymore. I regret not getting one but now Im looking at a trolling motor instead so I dont have to paddle nor pedal. 😂
Hi!! I’m new to the kayak fishing world, but not fishing. Do you have any videos on how to maneuver paddling and fishing? I’m really happy to hear I don’t have to buy a petal kayak!!!
Good points to consider.. thanks for your input!
Great video , and you are right for the most part and I do agree with you
Thank you for your perspective.
Good video. Good info, with a great real world ending. Thanks for posting.
Good info and thanks for leaving in the tip over. I’m about to modify my yak with a seat and realize now how critical center of gravity can be.
Interesting points of view. I'm about to get a new kayak for ocean fishing.
There is a bit of seaweed in my area.
I live in Shoalwater Western Australia.
If you’re fishing in the ocean and going to cover distances get the pedal kayak, you can still use the paddle when you want too. Plus you can’t paddle and fish at the same time. You can pedal and fish at same time, your hands are free.
This guy is a fool, he’s just sitting and spinning around and flips the kayak. I think this guy is one of those ppl that got to disagree with everyone and just got to do everything opposite as everyone else. Like he said at first pedal kayaks are all the rage so he’s one of those guys that just isn’t going to like it cause everyone else does.
If you’re a serious fisherman then just think about hands free fishing. And I seen lots of reviews of ppl going right through weeds no problem with pedal drives. But like I said you still can paddle when need too.
@@269adventures
Thanks
I did think he was a bit down on pedals.
Pedal then paddle as needed.
I'm not sure why it would be so tiring on the legs.
You sure you didn’t ditch the PDL because of your current state of health?
Great video! Kudos for leaving the flip in! I left mine in on one of my vids, too, and then incorporated it into another! L I only had experience with paddle kayaks until I lost a big fish last year that I probably would've landed in a pedal kayak...I started researching, I wanted a propeller drive, for the instant reverse, but it would not be my primary kayak, as most of the water I fish is super shallow with a good bit of current and obstructions, and a paddle kayak is just better suited for that, so I wanted a pedal drive that was affordable, too. I ended up with a Hammerhead Kayaks Bull Shark, almost unique in that the propeller drive and a fin drive are interchangeable on the same boat, and so far I love it! The fin drive was only another $400 after dropping $1500 for the Bull Shark with the propeller drive, and I'm still out the door for about 2/3 or half the cost of some higher end boats that only use one type of drive or the other. My paddle only Pelican Catch 120 is still my goto kayak most of the time, but I'm definitely not mad about it when I decide I need the pedal drive for this trip or that one. In fact, I currently have trips planned that I'll be using the Pelican on, and I have trips planned specifically to take advantage of the pedal drive offered by the Bull Shark. Oh, and as a side note: the Bull Shark is only 62 lbs without the drive...6 lbs less than my Pelican. Stay safe!
Never heard of the bullshark before that sounds interesting, I have a pelican catch power 10 right now and the same Jackson Cruise.After breaking both clavicles last year, I thought I was going to have to go to power or pedal to enjoy a fishing kayak. But they have both healed and I am now looking at deifferent options for a paddle only kayak
How was the cruise fd on shallow rivers creeks?
Peddle drives malfunction sooner or later and in moving water you can't always foresee shallow bedrock or boulders. I rented a peddle drive once and ended up paddling it most of the time and it was a slug in the water to paddle.
useful info. i'm a similar size as you but i've been riding bikes for years so i think the pedal drive will work out well for me but i don't have one yet so i can't say for certain.
if you get on a bike, even for short distances a couple days a week, you might be able to build those pedal muscles up within a couple months. i'm not a super serious cyclist or anything like that, i just ride a few miles casually every 2-3 days, but i've been doing that for years so i can keep pedaling even when i'm pooped after longer rides. if that's something you'd be interested in, you might even be able to pick up a stationary bike for free or cheap somewhere and give that a go. i imagine you don't care since you sold your pedal kayak, but thought i'd mention it.
I suffered a head injury after a fall from my rafters this winter so right now I am under a no bike riding rule. before this I was a regular on a bike but for some reason the whole pedal kayak never worked for me. IAM still paddle kayaking which is good exercise for my shoulders that received alot of trauma from the fall also
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors , i hear ya. get well.
I have always had a paddle and will never go to peddle
First a tip for RRTOD... You are way too high on that yak! Get a marker bouey and set it somewhere loose on your yak so WHEN you roll it, you'll know where all your stuff sank!
On with my comments...
I recently got a pedal kayak... I learned very quickly... it's to get you from point A to point B very quickly. They are NOT very meneuverable.
I learned also that they are pretty fast but if you are not a bike rider or used to PEDALLING. DO NOT RUN IT HARD FOR VERY LONG!! You'll regret it later on with severe cramps in your legs...SEVERE!!!
I'm 60 yrs old and weigh 230 pounds and not in the greatest of shape but not out of shape either.
The pedal kayaks are cumbersome and heavy but like anything else you just have to accept it and learn how to load, unload and use it.
I did spend more time with my Paddle in my hands aside from when I was trolling.
😆 the kayak I been eyin wouldn't have tipped. Lol big fish 108
There is definite disadvantages to kayaks like the jackson, how ever, I can paddle that thing farther and faster than any pedal drive I have ever been in, but she is more tippy in the high position for seating, but when it is in the low position it is pretty stable.
Yeah I have the 103 and it’s definitely difficult to flip! I was playing around on it couple days ago trying to flip it to practice getting back in and it’s tough to flip! Lol! My only complaint is the seat is low and hurts my back peddling after a while. Otherwise it’s a great boat!
I’m getting a Brooklyn PKC 12 pedal kayak because I want to do saltwater fishing with it. I can effectively fish without having to paddle when casting to the grass and can just go in a straight line no problem. I also want to go to the first and second Bowie and fish the jetties where I live with it too offshore. There is a spot about 300 yards off of the jetties where it’s a crazy drop off and I’ve heard of a bunch of fish around it. Boats are always slaying over there. And about 200 yards from the jetties is a hole with tons of rocks which hold a bunch of reds so I want a pedal so I can get out there happy instead of being drenched from paddling for 20 minutes
All very valid points! I've paddled since probably 2013.
I would like to get into Kayaking, but Im a big guy. At 300 pounds I am concerned that I wont find a Kayak that will be effective for me.
There is alot of good kayaks for bigger guys, I just sold a Pelican Catch 120 that handles bigger people perfectly and is fairly cheap. There is also Nu Canoes which are super stable, and a whole host of bigger yaks that would handle a 300lb dude perfectly
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors thanks for the response. I'll take a look at those brands mentioned.
Damn why didnt they call it a bike kayak. A lot of pedal and paddle. Cant tell the difference as a european
Dude I'm in central Florida. In our waters the alligators are everywhere, day time night time every time. You roll a fuckin yak, your lunch
Yeah I would probably be a little more careful in Florida or saltwater. Although if you roll here in late fall before the water turns hard there is a good chance of hypothermia
Glad I stuck around til the end :)
What do you have on your feet?
They are a a New Balance sandal
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors heading to their local outlet store right now to see what they have. Thanks.
I agree. I bought a hobie passport and I sold it after a couple of rides. I want a sea kayak. If I want to work my legs I'll ride my mountain bike. For arm a sea kayak will suffice. Sea kayaks are faster and versatile where as pedal are not for all water ways.
Thankyou, it all made sense to me, cheers
The number 1 reason to buy a peddle kayak is trolling. Watch any video of a peddle running 2 poles at a time and you'll see why. I went kokanee fishing yesterday and it was hot fishing but a ton of very small kokes so I had to stop and reel in every time a micro koke got hooked and the other line with a dodger fell to the bottom so I had to reel that on in too pain in the butt. Would not have to stop with a peddle kayak. Another reason for a peddle is down riggers again you not have to stop to let it go.
I tried out a friends pelican catch 100 hd2 today cause i was considering getting a kayak to fish with..... the thing wouldnt move for shit and the pedals were waaay to close for me. I was basically beating my knees against my chest.
Im 5 11"
And when i tried using the paddle..... it still didnt move for shit :v.
I dont wanna spend all day getting to the spot i wanna be at then have to go right back when i can spend the same amount on a flat bottom boat :v
I have done 16+ miles on my pelican catch HD110 and I find mine to be very slow
Do you recommend the 110? I'm looking at currently
Can you use both the paddle and the paddle at the same time or is it too top-heavy to balance
you could but my big issue with the pedal was how much space it took up and how heavy they were. I also feel a paddle is more efficient for most of my use, peddles suck in weeds and anytime you are around anytime of cover in the water
Pedal kayaks are designed to cover more water without fatiguing your arms so you can fish for longer. Idk about you, but if I've been kayaking down a river and fishing for several hours, the last thing I want to do is paddle up river against the current and destroy my arms and back. As for maneuverability, why dont you just use a paddle when in shallow/weeded areas and pull up the pedal drive? Even with the drive in, there is still plenty of room to stand in and even turn around if need be depending on what make and model you get. As for weight, they don't necessarily weigh any more than a normal top water paddle kayak when you take the drive out, which I would assume most people don't transport their kayaks with the drive installed. Just purchased the old town top water 120 pdl and it weighs 2lbs less than my emotions stealth pro angler paddle kayak. I use a trailer now to transport them, so I don't need to worry about lifting it on my car.
Conclusion: pedal kayaks are just as good if not better. The minimal effort to pull up the drive in shallow and weedy areas is not a big deal at all. They cover more water with less fatigue and leave your hands free. You also still have the option to use a paddle if you want to with a pedal kayak.
Ok that's your opinion, most lakes and rivers I fish you would have the drive up 90% of the time if you get to put it down at all. I also never go down river, always up, but that's just me. And as far as the drive is out of your way, you must have a different opinion of what out of your way is, they are always in your way. To each his own but I will stick with my paddle, you can declare what ever you want but my opinion differs
super helpful and insightful
I got rid of both pedals and paddle and put a sail on mine.
Thank you! Helpful!
Well done with some good points. The operative word is "lake". Those who fish where waters are swift, tides coming in or going out etc. will find a pedal kayak well worth it; you can't paddle to keep yourself in position and fish at the same time. I was going to suggest the Pelican Bass Raider 10e which costs 1/3 of the price of some pedal kayaks, is more stable and roomy but requires a motor (electric or gas). However after buying one new and owning it for 2 years I CANNOT recommend it because 1) water accumulates between the "clam shell" hulls and is a PITA to get out and, although Pelican states "stainless steel" fasteners are used, the staples holding the upper and lower halves are rusting like crazy and 2) lousy i.e. non-existent warranty support.
I think you really have to look at where your fishing, fishing the Texas cost a pedal drive makes it a lot more enjoyable, plus I cover around 20 to 30 miles of water every time I go out, the pedal drive fits my fishing style and location perfectly
You are probably correct about that for most people, for whatever reason I still find paddling easier and more comfortable, despite walking miles a week and staying in shape the sitting down and peddling thing has never worked for me, I recently tried my fil's recumbent bike and didn't like that thing either. I have never tried the fin style peddles I don't know if that would make a difference though
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors I think for the waters you fish a paddle is perfect for you, I don't recommend any pedal drives for weeds and it sounds like you fish mostly small bodies of water so the extra wait would definitely be a draw back for you
I think you are 💯 % right l did the same 👌🏻
Great video, I agree totally!
I keep thinking I want a pedal kayak. But the 3 reasons I havent dont it yet are 1.) Cost. I bought a Lifetime Yukon kayak new on sale for $400 and actually really like it. Its more stable then the Jackson Cuda I had. And very comfortable to fish in for hours. 2.) I love having a bunch of open deck space in front of me and I know the pedals would be in my way a lot. And 3.) I also bass fish everytime I fish. So I spend a lot of my time in really shallow water or in weeds and lilly pads. In fact one lake I fish is covered in 70-75 percent lilly pads in the summer. So really Im not sure how much Id ever use the pedals? And I dont really want them in my way when I cant use them. My main reason for wanting one is just on windier days really. But I have a hard time justifying spending $1500 or more for something I may not end up using much.
The Catch Hydryve II by Pelican is $1100 till the 25th of this month at REI.
Looking to get into kayaking, completely new to it though. Would having the pedal and paddle be a viable option, or would that be to corny? Lol. Just seems like it would be better for exersize and help u go a little faster.
In my experience, the two don’t usually go well together because a lot of pedal kayaks have you in a semi-reclined position which is jot conducive to good strokes with a paddle. I haven’t tried them all, though.
IF YOU TRY PADDLING WITH YOUR KNEES UP IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TRY KICKING NOW WHILE MOVING YOUR TORSO. THAT IS SOME GOOD P90X WORKOUT
Hi thank you for the video. I lived in California all of my life, cycling around 150 miles per week. I loved to kayak in Ventura and Monterey Ca. Soon after I injured my right hand and elbow so cycling is out now. But I know I could paddle for a while, pedal for a while. Is it possible to have both? Could you recommend a decent kayak that offers both? We've since moved to Wisconsin and I would like to explore more of the lakes here. Thank you in advance.
Greg
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You can still use an oar in a pedal kayak Genuis!
If you were a genius you would have heard me say that in the video, you would also know that in a kayak it is called a paddle, and not a f'n oar. Get a f'n clue loser
Harder to flip pedal kayaks because most are made to stand in
I think that was a great review, But I do think it's best to have the uses of both. As a lot of people get into kayaking for different reasons. If it for exercise both would be great. I do find for sea fishing it's best to have the use of both. But in a lake or river I prefer just paddles.
If you are fighting a large fish how do you back up with a paddle?
rod in one hand paddle in the other, its not like you can control where you are backing up with a pedal drive in reverse, the rudder don't turn you, as soon as the fish turns the front of the kayak you have no control where you are going in reverse. I can control my movements alot better with a paddle
I think these guys sit around looking for excuses. I've never had any trouble with the propeller getting tangled in weeds or stuck in mud. Also, I've never fell in the water.
Can you use pedal kyak in a foot of water?
NO NOT REALLY
You can use a paddle with a pedal drive kayak.... So...
Yeah and paddle around with a heavy drive taking up 1/2 the space inside your kayak.
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors the drive helps you to get to places faster using your bigger muscles period. It's simple physics man.
I thought this was a comparison between Pedal Drive vs Paddle Drive. :(
couldn't you use both?
My reason was the risk of damage. I don’t own $500 sunglasses nor do I own a $3k kayak (anymore).
all fixed by pulling up the drive after u get to your spot.
sooo many reasons to go pedal cause you can still paddle it.
as far as removing the drive to cartop. it takes 4 seconds. give me a break
then the drive is sitting there in your way, fish the lakes I fish and you will see, weeds every where and the drive is useless and in your way the whole day, different strokes for different folks, people get so pissed when you say you don't like something they do.
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors im not pissed. just don't feel you made very valid points. to each their own. my drive when out sits all the way up front on the well. very much out of the way.
every complaint you had was easily fixed or very minor. like the drive when you cartop? I mean it takes 3 seconds to remove the drive and put it in your back seat.
@@KayakKingdom pedal drive kayaks are heavier even without the drive, they are extra beefy around the drive area to lessen flex, usually around 10l-15 lbs heavier than a comparable non drive unit, it makes a difference going from 80lbs to 95-100lbs.. My points are my points if you didnt like the video give it a thumbs down, I dont give two shits, you fish the way you want to and I will fish the way I want to. I simply made a video stating why I got rid of it and why I wouldn't go back.
@@RiverRatsTotalOutdoors wow bud. you don't have to get so offensive. just disagreeing. did you think the entire world 🌎 was gonna agree with you. jeez. your gonna hate youtube if you expect everyone to agree with you and tell them you don't "give 2 shits" about their opinion.
Pedal kayaks are wider and heavier and do not paddle easily. One should try out pedal and paddle kayaks to see what they prefer.
Watch on playback speed 1.5 😉
As someone who has extensively used both types of kayaks, I could not disagree more, but hey, whatever works for you.
I fish rivers and small shallow lakes and resorvoirs so a pedal drive for me is a waste of money!
WAAAAaaaaaaa! I had a paddle for a year then got a peddle 3 years ago and haven't used my paddle since. to each his own though. I think your looking for excuse's. Take your paddle with you, buy a truck, good grief. P.S. your seat is way to high on your Kayak, I think you'll tip over a lot more with it that high.
Peddle drives have limitations and malfunctions. I also enjoy the art of paddling to me it was like learning the art of fly fishing.
Well said. Fly fishing is an artform I'm glad I learned and continue to learn.
Thanks for the time of that comparison
Stability is my number one concern and you would not have flipped a Titan 12 like that. ;)
You know you can use a paddle on a pedal kayak right?
Do you know how to paddle?
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Pedals are overrated and so expensive
How was the cruise fd on shallow rivers creeks?
Not good, not enough clearance to use the peddle drive, but it's the same hull as my current kayak and they paddle good up stream, but the peddle drive is worthless to bring with, it takes up to much room for the limited use it would see