@@kutomore you can install a custom firmware on your router called openwrt or dd-wrt if suported, and them increase the transmission power,just don't increase it too much or you will destroy your router
@@jackkraken3888 this is my issue and i am having a hard time actually finding an answer. God love the vomment sections though! Lol i need yo extend about 60ft for security cameras, about $550 in so far and not even close to 60ft. Smh
@@krisg6258 Whenever possible you should used wired connections for security cameras though..WiFi based security cameras are vulnerable to certain types of attacks..
I was expecting that by the end of this video I will have a solution. However, now I am more confused than before that what I need to do about my connection.
Real solution for most people in most situations: If you can run an ethernet cable, get a cheap wifi access point (AP). If you can't, $60-150 for a powerline access point. Avoid the all-wireless wifi extenders. You can run multiple APs (ethernet or powerline) if you have multiple dead spots, but at a certain point, look into mesh or a wired ubiquity setup.
Hello Linus, a better way to extend a wireless signal is tplink powerline to WiFi devices. In the Bahamas the building code is different than the U.S. and there is a lot of concrete and steel so signal falls off faster so if have a large home or home with more than one floor WiFi extenders across the home or on another floor pose a lot of complications. What I started doing years ago was using tplink WiFi over powerline. It uses the powerline as it would Ethernet connection, and you can add the WiFi transmitters thathas ethernet connections around the home where needed; also there are models with gigabit connection through the powerline. I’ve overcame many challenges over using WiFi extenders of any sort or having Ethernet cables ran for wired ap’s. Less callbacks for wireless and quick setups even with updates once all devices are connected I connect to the network and flash each device.
This is great information about how WiFi truly works. I am going to look into this more. As my router is now two years old and I am considering getting an extender to boost my range.
And the repeaters cost around $15 or less. Even if they slow down the speed of the distant receiver, it's still better than a bad connection. Even better would be repeater on batteries, you can place anywhere as power sockets are most likely near floor level
Stayed at a friend's house, made a foil "satellite dish" over the wifi antennae so wifi could reach the basement. It worked surprisingly well before her ma threw it out for being fugly. Lol
Curiosity got me there you make a foil over the router? Each antena or over the whole router and how big. My problem is penetrating 4 concrete walls to patio area.
More cheaper method, tear down all walls in between the modem and your multimedia. If you have walls that support other floors or the roof, then make sure you brake them down first.
@@chee6916 We have two routers, main one in the living room and access point router in my bros room, But I am in the middle of them with an extender so now I get 100mbps instead. Which is a scam tbh but it is what it is. If I ever need to download something big I would simply carry my laptop and download warzone lmao.
I just turned my old tp link N router into a repeater for the new asus N/AC router. Fully transparent operation with minimal setup, good security and happy devices. Even my TV with broken wifi has wired internet now. It was cheap indeed!
@ꀯ fccid.io/ANATEL/04015-16-03177/Certificado-de-Conformidade/1B19D3A5-EF1A-4995-B193-CF601D650063 This one is from ANATEL(kinda like a FCC on brazil)it claims 952mw if you use 20mhz from what I understand Edit:it's on portuguese but if you go to the second page and then on the "potencia maxima de saida(W)" you will see it
tbh if u buy another router and sync it up to ur main wifi and you set the second one to a sweet spot where your main wifi reaches it basically will give half of what you would get on your main wifi
In the US the max transmit power for WiFi, is 1000 milliwatts. Though since the regulation allows for no margin for error, many device makers will typically stay around 100mw under the limit. Though some higher end transcievers found in some higher end routers, will offer a more stable output, thus allowing them to get closer to the 1000mw limit, e.g., on a few netgear routers, they were able to get within about 30mw of the limit.
@@fungo6631 It is not enough for most average sized homes. It is part of an unreasonable set of FCC limitations where instead of being set by experts, it is set by the same type of politicians who set speed limits on roads. The rules largely do not make much sense since it is based on spectral density but then they have no problem with having multiple separate APs. Overall it is less efficient and wastes power since now where 1 AP with a higher transmit power would provide coverage, you end up with 2 separate APs , wherein order to get an extra watt worth of RF in your home, you end up with an extra 11-12 watts of power draw from needing to power a separate device with its own SOC, RAM, storage, etc. While portable client devices will always be limited in transmit power since there is a battery life cost to boosting it, Many APs have significantly higher transmit powers anyway since it is easier to get better receiver sensitivity, better antennas, and better RF front ends since there are fewer space and power constraints on the AP as compared to a mobile device. Thus a good AP will deal with a weaker signal from a client device very well, and the AP will transmit at a higher power, to counter any issues with poor receiver sensitivity of the client device.
@@Razor2048 You do realize that apartment buildings exist, do you? How would you like your neighbors Wi-Fi networks interfering with yours? And LOL, 11 watts? AP SoCs use maybe 1 watt at most with the puny ARM cores they use. Transmitters probably use a few hundred miliwatts.
@@fungo6631 Look up the the power draw data for many WiFi routers and APs. For example, for the Orbi system, search for "How much power does my Orbi WiFi System use?" (can't post links in youtube comments without getting hit with the filter. 10+ watts is fairly common for Netgear, Linksys, Asus, Ubiquiti, Motorola, Actiontech, and many others. Due to how the devices are made, you often end up with a lot of separate components designed to do hardware offloading, since most data is not handled by the SOC unless packet inspection is being done. Furthermore they often use switching ICs designed to handle 10+Gbps simultaneously which can be power hungry. Nearly all modern APs offer user controllable transmit power, where it can be reduced if needed. Many systems, especially mesh ones can also automatically reduce their transmit power based on effective RSSI. PS for major brands, Especially Netgear, and Asus, they have been using 1000mW on all upper mid range and higher device models.
@@Razor2048 But these are enterprise systems. Most people have routers that are gigabit at most and are way less advanced. Power wise, most people who know how to do it, would just crank the power to the max, causing a signal clusterfuck. As said, not all Americans live in suburbia. Imagine NYC being filled with more powerful Wi-Fi routers. In free space 30 dBm of power will cover a whole km of very good signal strength. I did the mafs so you don't have to. You get -70 dBm. The thermal noise floor of a 20 MHz channel is about -100.5 dBm. Under ideal conditions, with long distance protocol hacking, 10 km away you'll still get at least 20 Mbps of bandwidth. Which is overkill. TL;DR the FCC and its international counterparts should've added more bandwidth.
You can.. just check out what country that have the highest legal power.. and set the router to that country.... ... Is it legal... no.... Will the cops ever figure that out.. also no
Yes you can, this video was just absolute trash. E. G. You could just buy a simple 20 dollar access point and use the same ssid and password on it. Done. This vid was just another clickbait. But it works I guess
@@sven957 Which also halves your max speed and it's been awhile but I think doubles your ping as well, plus that's just assuming it doesn't totally suck, I got a $10 repeater about 5 years ago and it could push a whopping ~6mbps.
well if you change the antenna to one with higher gain (like the patch) you are also increasing your EIRP so to keep it legal you would need to turn down transmission power. and thus you are back to square one. But when your phone is transmitting the router would have a higher sensitivity and thus better connection. Side note: you would have less interference from sources in the lower gain directions which could help also.
Directional antennae don't actually help all that much anymore since most modern WiFi APs have beamforming (using constructive interference between multiple antennae to create a virtual directional antenna pointing anywhere you want).
My version of 'on the cheap' is to grab an old wifi router/AP/whatever from a thrift store, place it in an area with bad signal, and run an ethernet cable to it.
I thought this would be about converting an old router into a repeater. Because what's cheaper than free, so long as you had some somewhat modern ones discarded.
You forgot to mention, that you observed it on a spectrum analyzer and you noticed there is a lot of passive reflection placing the router at a low height, all routers should be placed as high as possible, I work in Telecomm, networks, Electronic
I purchased 4 9dbi antennas and my router uses 3 BUT the funny thing is the best signal (measured it) came with using two 9dbi and using only one of the original antennas on the router. Now it had to be a specific arrangement for the best signal by middle was the old 6dbi and the outer two were the new 9dbi antennas and my signal went from 74 to 62. What I believe is happening is I created a side lobe that is headed in the direction I needed and with the other two 9dbi antennas on the receiver my signal is a rock solid 48-54 and my mbps went way up too.
i want to see a video on the technology research facilities were they discover things like this. the data recovery center was super cool and i want to see more like that. thanks
Unless your neighbors use ham radio, power-line adapters can be a wired solution that'll be an intermediate between WiFi and Ethernet (mind the surge suppressor deleting the signal or the issue with wall outlets being on different circuits).
2:15 - about that... the limits of wifi power are specified in EIRP not absolute power which means an AP which is legal with its default antenna can exceed the limit with a directional antenna.
I use good cheap Routers as wireless repeaters connected to devices with Ethernet cables! Makes kinda "mesh" network and the cable connected devices itselfs get much better range and speed! The mobile devices get better signal and speed too compared to connecting directly to the main router!
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Just get Powerline Ethernet Adapters, it honestly solves every problem I've had with WiFi. In games it adds about 4-8ms of latency compared to a direct Ethernet cable but it stays between 4-8ms, with WiFi it jumps wildly between 1-65ms - a much worse experience. I get close to Gigabit speeds (SMB to my NAS transfer, my internet sucks :P) consistently and I can just forget about it. One plug in every room that needs networking - small 5-port DLINK Gigabit switches in the 2 rooms that have multiple devices. It's way less expensive than any access point that could match it (if any even exist) and you can expand it as necessary.
Hate to be that guy, but Bluetooth isn't actually a major problem interference-wise as far as WiFi goes due to the frequency hopping built into the protocol. Wifi direct printers and smart TVs running on 2.4ghz probably cause more problems, but the best solution is usually moving your router or adding another "router" in AP mode.
Quickest easiest way on the cheap is to run an Ethernet wire to where you need wifi and putting an el cheapo router there.... Could be done for around 50$ and result are 100% guaranteed... The hardest part would be running the wire cleanly.. so it's not visible but it can be done....
Adding a WiFi extender setup correctly solved my problems. Just connect them by a network cable and put them in a central location to where you need the signal. 5GHz is better as less chance of interfernace. Use 2 GHz as a fall back incase your out of range of the 5GHz.
Lol r&d for tech isn't cheap. And $80, relative to other wifi options, is cheap. You wanna spend $80 on this, or $250+ on a stronger router? $80 is a lot cheaper now isn't it?
Mikrotik has some 1W models. However, this doesn't mean anything, since Wi-Fi data transmit depends on the end device aswell. You can catch the signal, but it won't even connect, because your end device has waay less power and is not able to send the packet with auth info.
If you have a spare phone laying around check it to how to extend wifi by wifi tethering I tested myself with these in Realme and samsung and Nokia (in some phones they dont show Wifi tethering instead You can turn on hotspot after getting connected to wifi-Mi,Poco)
Well, technically, omnidirectional antennas really do emit radio frequencies in a big donut shape. There's a dead zone directly above the antenna, so that contributes to the hole in the donut.
Just get a cheap router with bridge support and relay it that way, better yet, use an ethernet cable to connect them both and cut down on the chatter. If you have an old router laying around that does not come with this functionality, install LibreCMC or OpenWRT, or maybe even buy one that is officially supported by them.
focussing the power with an antenna is illegal since you increase the EIRP which is limited by the 200mW limit. EIRP = what your router supplies + external antenna = MAX 23dbm. With your antenna of 14dBi you increase this to 37dBm-> ILLEGAL
If anything you just get a better quality Wap, higher dBa means more range, cisco 3702i and 3802i waps can go stupidly far but xirrus gives the highest range that I've seen, ubiquiti by far is the cheapest option for home setups and it's easier to just get a few of them to cover the house vs just one giant fast one. At the end of the day if your internet is slow nothing will make your wifi faster for internet use.
You should cover some Comptia A+ material man. I think we could definitely learn a lot from you. Or a guide on how to break into the IT industry with no experience and just certs.
I litteraly baught 4 14" 14dbi antennas off Amazon and replaced my nighthawks antennas with these and now pickup my wifi three times further down the street. Their 9.99 for two on Amazon and just screw right on.
I set my WiFi to the 2.4 GHZ band only. The speed I am getting is good enough. The lower frequency gives better range and greater reliability for my type of use.
I wired my entire building of 13 apartment units + 4 commercial units with wifi using used Linksys routers in bridge mode ($30 - $35 per Gbit router). Everyone's been super happy with it and it's been over a year since installation.
i have no idea what you mean by all of this. i simply wrapped my ethernet cable around my flip phone and it worked well enough for me, no need to pay for stuff like that just use a simple trick lol. also if for some reason that's not enough you can use the "salad bowl" trick. look it up.
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Good video. I understood most of what you said. Ha-Ha. I Really don't have a range issue, but a strength issue. I want to use my Laptop in my garage so I can get on the net and find out things as I work on cars. My problem is, I have to have my phone or computer in front of the window. The shop is about 70 feet from my house and I have metal siding on the outside of in walls and roof. When I move away from the window, I lose connection to the net. Is there some way I can increase the strength of the signal or get into my shop without sitting in front of the window. I want to be anywhere in my shop and pick up a signal. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 👍👍
I was getting terrible internet speed on my Amazon Fire Stick when streaming shows. What I was watching would take forever to load and it would play at very low quality most of the time. The problem is that my internet router is in my office at one end of my house. The Fire Stick is about 20 feet away in a different room so the wireless signal has to pass through about 4 different walls. Using the tip at 2:56 by lowering the channels from 80 MHz to 40 MHz solved the problem immediately. Thanks :]
i live in a place where i have well over 40 different wifi networks in range and even 5ghz band has no free channel. I even considered alu foiling the walls and wallpaper over it. But that gets pricy really fast.
I've been pondering if I should set up a second wi-fi access point in my house, just for my five 2.4GHZ wireless security cameras (that are constantly steaming with RTSP while each using roughly 50 to 200 KB/s bandwidth)? I've also noticed that if my Roku is having trouble playing a particular video stream, it will often improve dramatically after I reboot the device. I presume that's because it's finding a better channel but it seems odd that I have to restart the device to make it do that...
I googled "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my Wifi to extend my "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my Wifi!
I always just use channel 165 20 MHz on 5 GHz. It's only technically slower, but in Canada my router can transmit a whole 4W, plus all the non-DFS channels are taken up by overlapping networks anyway, since everyone's AP's 🌆 appear to be set up by default to use 40-80MHz wide channels. I only signed up for 100 mbps Internet service anyway and my link speed at 20 MHz is around 130 mbps within my 🏡. I can even get 1.5 Mbps, enough to stream 480p or do basic email/messaging/social media, and real time transit schedules at the bus stop across the street.
I have 4 4k tv and 2 computer computer monitors with 4k . I think 540p is just as good as 720p or 1080p. The real solution is to STOP USING 1080p. 720p 30fps should become the standard and then we won't need to worry about high speed connections. 1mb/s is more than enough for a 720p 30fps at .265. If you live in an apartment than range isn't an issue but if you have a 3 acre lot, suddenly range matters a whole lot.
@@tim3172 Obviously I can tell the diference is I try, I just don't think the difference matters. I actually did a test about a year go where I had a 1080p video image rendered down to 540p and 720p. Few people sitting on the coach 4m away were certain of the change. some of them often were able to label the 540p video but again they weren't certain. None of they were certain if the video clip was 720p or 1080p. I had them stair at the screen and hold up fingers to tell when the resolution changed and what the new resolution was. Keep in mind they were older adults. This was on a 65"4k tv. For the most part people just care about white balance and color saturation. A 720p with the right settings is all anyone will ever need. And yes I own 4k tv. THey were on sale and are more future proof. I almost never watch 4k content. 4k content is bandwidth abuse. oh and I watch most youtube videos at 360p.
You didn't mention anything bout the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequencies? It's basically what you say at the start, slower speed for more range, just that it is split up in two different wifi-networks for the user to get the option to connect to whichever they want.
LIKED. Nice video, good info, watched until the end, I learned a lot here but I don’t like the commercial. I pay for RUclips prime so I don’t have to deal with advertising. Maybe you could provide a warning or partition your advertising. Thanks. I’ll be back.
Get a router that supports OpenWRT and has electronics that can handle overclocking. I remember doing this to some good 'ol blue linksys router (on 2.4G) a couple of years ago. And Baconcheeseburger, please.
I remember when my wifi was insanely slow but I still had a signal for half of my walk to school.
Homeschoolers are not impressed
my old wifi literally disconnects once i move away 1m
@@realcartoongirl my new wifi is like that.
I had, like, no cell signal where I used to live. So I had to use my wifi to play Pokemon Go.
@@CaveyMoth I didn't have a data plan so I did the same thing
"You can't turn it up any further...."legally"
Google searches just spiked for "How to illegally extend my wifi router"
I was just about to comment that, hahahhahahahha.
No google won’t tell you the answers you have to use Bing
If anyone finds the answer to this, please @ me
@@kutomore you can install a custom firmware on your router called openwrt or dd-wrt if suported, and them increase the transmission power,just don't increase it too much or you will destroy your router
I fried a router with this setting... It was cool to have signal across the street for a month...
you never actually mentioned "How to Extend Wi-Fi Range on the CHEAP"
Welcome to youtube
Increase guard interval and decrease channel size, but these settings are not always available on all Wifi routers.
Have him a thumbs down for that
@@jackkraken3888 this is my issue and i am having a hard time actually finding an answer. God love the vomment sections though! Lol i need yo extend about 60ft for security cameras, about $550 in so far and not even close to 60ft. Smh
@@krisg6258 Whenever possible you should used wired connections for security cameras though..WiFi based security cameras are vulnerable to certain types of attacks..
I was expecting that by the end of this video I will have a solution. However, now I am more confused than before that what I need to do about my connection.
"For cheap"
*Shows an $80 gadget*
Cheapness is relative
It's made in China.
@@expertb6348 ya its totally relative, and yet channels like this use it a lot
His subtle tech flexing is kinda why I'm glad he's considering retirement
Linus id out of touch with reality. He keeps calling all kinds of shit cheap even tho it's not for most people.
I mean, you can also buy an RF Amplifier and (actually) boost it by a lot. That being only barely legal if at all is another topic though ;D
anime pfp
Af amplifier are for Audio uses only? What do you mean @jisagi
@@Lukilukilukiluk Oh lol, I obviously mean RF Amplifier. Thanks for the headsup, fixed it in the original post as well
@real cartoon girl anime pfp
If you have a ham liscense isnt that completely legal?
3:11 All... You... Need...
... Is love
Thanks. I was wondering about the cheap part
3:56 what you really need
@@jordandesigns5797 XD
is to follow the damn train CJ!
Real solution for most people in most situations:
If you can run an ethernet cable, get a cheap wifi access point (AP). If you can't, $60-150 for a powerline access point. Avoid the all-wireless wifi extenders. You can run multiple APs (ethernet or powerline) if you have multiple dead spots, but at a certain point, look into mesh or a wired ubiquity setup.
Hello Linus, a better way to extend a wireless signal is tplink powerline to WiFi devices. In the Bahamas the building code is different than the U.S. and there is a lot of concrete and steel so signal falls off faster so if have a large home or home with more than one floor WiFi extenders across the home or on another floor pose a lot of complications. What I started doing years ago was using tplink WiFi over powerline. It uses the powerline as it would Ethernet connection, and you can add the WiFi transmitters thathas ethernet connections around the home where needed; also there are models with gigabit connection through the powerline. I’ve overcame many challenges over using WiFi extenders of any sort or having Ethernet cables ran for wired ap’s. Less callbacks for wireless and quick setups even with updates once all devices are connected I connect to the network and flash each device.
God please don't use that powerline trash! It just spews out tons of RF interference!
This is great information about how WiFi truly works. I am going to look into this more. As my router is now two years old and I am considering getting an extender to boost my range.
No mention of powerline adapters or wifi repeaters at all?
powerline adapters are also great for getting ethernet around the house. Works well enough for me to work from home for over 8 hours/day.
instead mentions antennas??? Which probably is more complicated to hook up.
I'm pretty sure TQ has videos of those already. They've done a lot on WiFi.
Wifi repeaters extend range, but also slows down the speeds
And the repeaters cost around $15 or less. Even if they slow down the speed of the distant receiver, it's still better than a bad connection. Even better would be repeater on batteries, you can place anywhere as power sockets are most likely near floor level
Stayed at a friend's house, made a foil "satellite dish" over the wifi antennae so wifi could reach the basement. It worked surprisingly well before her ma threw it out for being fugly. Lol
So a parabolic reflector.
@Opecuted ur the dead meme frog wearing a dead meme wizard suit
Lmao this actually really mad me lol...
Curiosity got me there you make a foil over the router? Each antena or over the whole router and how big. My problem is penetrating 4 concrete walls to patio area.
Would like to see a pic of that my 77 year old mind having problems visulizing that
More cheaper method, tear down all walls in between the modem and your multimedia. If you have walls that support other floors or the roof, then make sure you brake them down first.
Who else has 500mbps but only get 4-10mbps with lag in their room
u need mesh wifi lol, or one of those wifi repeaters/extender ofc one router cant cover an entire house
@@chee6916 do u know any good extender
@@bryant.p1215 same
We have a gig down and 300 up. I only get 300 Down one room over
@@chee6916 We have two routers, main one in the living room and access point router in my bros room, But I am in the middle of them with an extender so now I get 100mbps instead. Which is a scam tbh but it is what it is. If I ever need to download something big I would simply carry my laptop and download warzone lmao.
1:38 gotta figure out how to do this
I just turned my old tp link N router into a repeater for the new asus N/AC router. Fully transparent operation with minimal setup, good security and happy devices. Even my TV with broken wifi has wired internet now. It was cheap indeed!
1:20 there is a 2.4ghz tp-link router that can output up to 1000mw here on brazil
@Имперский Защитник it model is wr 941hp,totally overkill if it does what it claims
mexican: despacito wow Im steal yo wifi despactio
mexican: no it encryped despacito
real cartoon girl what?
@ꀯ fccid.io/ANATEL/04015-16-03177/Certificado-de-Conformidade/1B19D3A5-EF1A-4995-B193-CF601D650063
This one is from ANATEL(kinda like a FCC on brazil)it claims 952mw if you use 20mhz from what I understand
Edit:it's on portuguese but if you go to the second page and then on the "potencia maxima de saida(W)" you will see it
Oh my God imagine being in an apartment building with all those signals just overlapping. No one's wifi would work
You can use MoCA where you can't get Ethernet. You may need to change out your cable splitters with MoCA splitters. MoCA does 2.5Gb/s over coax
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I showed you my lttstore.com pls respond
@@Mkrabs I showed you my sponsor, tunnelbear, please respond
Tf is going on here?
Well done, Linus. This video was exactly long enough for me to finish my borgr
hmmm borgir
tbh if u buy another router and sync it up to ur main wifi and you set the second one to a sweet spot where your main wifi reaches it basically will give half of what you would get on your main wifi
In the US the max transmit power for WiFi, is 1000 milliwatts. Though since the regulation allows for no margin for error, many device makers will typically stay around 100mw under the limit. Though some higher end transcievers found in some higher end routers, will offer a more stable output, thus allowing them to get closer to the 1000mw limit, e.g., on a few netgear routers, they were able to get within about 30mw of the limit.
I don't think 1000 mW is for consumer grade Wi-Fi.
@@fungo6631 It is not enough for most average sized homes. It is part of an unreasonable set of FCC limitations where instead of being set by experts, it is set by the same type of politicians who set speed limits on roads.
The rules largely do not make much sense since it is based on spectral density but then they have no problem with having multiple separate APs. Overall it is less efficient and wastes power since now where 1 AP with a higher transmit power would provide coverage, you end up with 2 separate APs , wherein order to get an extra watt worth of RF in your home, you end up with an extra 11-12 watts of power draw from needing to power a separate device with its own SOC, RAM, storage, etc.
While portable client devices will always be limited in transmit power since there is a battery life cost to boosting it, Many APs have significantly higher transmit powers anyway since it is easier to get better receiver sensitivity, better antennas, and better RF front ends since there are fewer space and power constraints on the AP as compared to a mobile device. Thus a good AP will deal with a weaker signal from a client device very well, and the AP will transmit at a higher power, to counter any issues with poor receiver sensitivity of the client device.
@@Razor2048 You do realize that apartment buildings exist, do you? How would you like your neighbors Wi-Fi networks interfering with yours?
And LOL, 11 watts? AP SoCs use maybe 1 watt at most with the puny ARM cores they use. Transmitters probably use a few hundred miliwatts.
@@fungo6631 Look up the the power draw data for many WiFi routers and APs. For example, for the Orbi system, search for "How much power does my Orbi WiFi System use?" (can't post links in youtube comments without getting hit with the filter.
10+ watts is fairly common for Netgear, Linksys, Asus, Ubiquiti, Motorola, Actiontech, and many others.
Due to how the devices are made, you often end up with a lot of separate components designed to do hardware offloading, since most data is not handled by the SOC unless packet inspection is being done. Furthermore they often use switching ICs designed to handle 10+Gbps simultaneously which can be power hungry.
Nearly all modern APs offer user controllable transmit power, where it can be reduced if needed. Many systems, especially mesh ones can also automatically reduce their transmit power based on effective RSSI.
PS for major brands, Especially Netgear, and Asus, they have been using 1000mW on all upper mid range and higher device models.
@@Razor2048 But these are enterprise systems. Most people have routers that are gigabit at most and are way less advanced.
Power wise, most people who know how to do it, would just crank the power to the max, causing a signal clusterfuck. As said, not all Americans live in suburbia.
Imagine NYC being filled with more powerful Wi-Fi routers.
In free space 30 dBm of power will cover a whole km of very good signal strength.
I did the mafs so you don't have to. You get -70 dBm. The thermal noise floor of a 20 MHz channel is about -100.5 dBm.
Under ideal conditions, with long distance protocol hacking, 10 km away you'll still get at least 20 Mbps of bandwidth. Which is overkill.
TL;DR the FCC and its international counterparts should've added more bandwidth.
How to Extend Wi-Fi Range on the CHEAP
Conclusion: You can't
You can.. just check out what country that have the highest legal power.. and set the router to that country....
... Is it legal... no....
Will the cops ever figure that out.. also no
Yes you can, this video was just absolute trash. E. G. You could just buy a simple 20 dollar access point and use the same ssid and password on it. Done. This vid was just another clickbait. But it works I guess
@@sven957 I had a $20 access point (repeater/accespoint combo).. it was total garbage... switched to a $80 one and it's like 100 times better
@@sven957 Which also halves your max speed and it's been awhile but I think doubles your ping as well, plus that's just assuming it doesn't totally suck, I got a $10 repeater about 5 years ago and it could push a whopping ~6mbps.
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well if you change the antenna to one with higher gain (like the patch) you are also increasing your EIRP so to keep it legal you would need to turn down transmission power. and thus you are back to square one. But when your phone is transmitting the router would have a higher sensitivity and thus better connection.
Side note: you would have less interference from sources in the lower gain directions which could help also.
Who cares if it's technically illegal? Nobody will go after you unless you really jack up the power where you blank out all the other Wi-Fi networks.
Directional antennae don't actually help all that much anymore since most modern WiFi APs have beamforming (using constructive interference between multiple antennae to create a virtual directional antenna pointing anywhere you want).
My version of 'on the cheap' is to grab an old wifi router/AP/whatever from a thrift store, place it in an area with bad signal, and run an ethernet cable to it.
I have a gigabit wifi mesh setup in my home and it is the best way i've been able to get near 800MB downloads from all areas in the house.
Where did you buy it from ?
I am at my wifi range limit while watching this.
Leaning against your router?
I thought this would be about converting an old router into a repeater. Because what's cheaper than free, so long as you had some somewhat modern ones discarded.
Do you know how to do this?
You forgot to mention, that you observed it on a spectrum analyzer and you noticed there is a lot of passive reflection placing the router at a low height, all routers should be placed as high as possible, I work in Telecomm, networks, Electronic
Sounds reasonable
Im surprised you didnt bring up wifi adapter positioning at all.
I purchased 4 9dbi antennas and my router uses 3 BUT the funny thing is the best signal (measured it) came with using two 9dbi and using only one of the original antennas on the router. Now it had to be a specific arrangement for the best signal by middle was the old 6dbi and the outer two were the new 9dbi antennas and my signal went from 74 to 62. What I believe is happening is I created a side lobe that is headed in the direction I needed and with the other two 9dbi antennas on the receiver my signal is a rock solid 48-54 and my mbps went way up too.
i want to see a video on the technology research facilities were they discover things like this. the data recovery center was super cool and i want to see more like that. thanks
Unless your neighbors use ham radio, power-line adapters can be a wired solution that'll be an intermediate between WiFi and Ethernet (mind the surge suppressor deleting the signal or the issue with wall outlets being on different circuits).
The interference is spewed even on FM and TV bands! Powerline adapters are cancer and were a mistake.
That router machine gun is the best part of this video.
2:15 - about that... the limits of wifi power are specified in EIRP not absolute power which means an AP which is legal with its default antenna can exceed the limit with a directional antenna.
Isn’t the most effective way to really just get another access point? I’m trying to convert my Raspi into an AP for my upstairs right now.
Hey Linus thanks for the vid. Got a question, would explicitly changing the channel be better than a routers "auto" channel selection though?
Techquickie LinusTechTips - Would be a great rebranding for your channel!
I use good cheap Routers as wireless repeaters connected to devices with Ethernet cables! Makes kinda "mesh" network and the cable connected devices itselfs get much better range and speed! The mobile devices get better signal and speed too compared to connecting directly to the main router!
so we have seen Ars Technica's episode....if you read all comments, some of us are long time fans. we work as electrical engineers for technologies you have only discussed of offline (customer discretion and nondisclosure contracts might be a thing of the past one day)...but we still dream of one day being able to present to you the "40TB motherboard" that will one day be a commercial product(15 ears after N***A lets us :D) ...we appreciate your firms dedication... and we are here...always
Just get Powerline Ethernet Adapters, it honestly solves every problem I've had with WiFi. In games it adds about 4-8ms of latency compared to a direct Ethernet cable but it stays between 4-8ms, with WiFi it jumps wildly between 1-65ms - a much worse experience. I get close to Gigabit speeds (SMB to my NAS transfer, my internet sucks :P) consistently and I can just forget about it. One plug in every room that needs networking - small 5-port DLINK Gigabit switches in the 2 rooms that have multiple devices. It's way less expensive than any access point that could match it (if any even exist) and you can expand it as necessary.
first time ive actually been interested in a sponsored product
Hate to be that guy, but Bluetooth isn't actually a major problem interference-wise as far as WiFi goes due to the frequency hopping built into the protocol. Wifi direct printers and smart TVs running on 2.4ghz probably cause more problems, but the best solution is usually moving your router or adding another "router" in AP mode.
Quickest easiest way on the cheap is to run an Ethernet wire to where you need wifi and putting an el cheapo router there.... Could be done for around 50$ and result are 100% guaranteed... The hardest part would be running the wire cleanly.. so it's not visible but it can be done....
I use a $45 wifi dual band 1200 mbs extender. Works great.
Can't you buy them for around $25-$30 on AliExpress?
Adding a WiFi extender setup correctly solved my problems. Just connect them by a network cable and put them in a central location to where you need the signal. 5GHz is better as less chance of interfernace. Use 2 GHz as a fall back incase your out of range of the 5GHz.
2:05 honestly it looks and works amazing but 79$ is probably more than i spend on food for entire month, so yeah
Lol r&d for tech isn't cheap. And $80, relative to other wifi options, is cheap. You wanna spend $80 on this, or $250+ on a stronger router? $80 is a lot cheaper now isn't it?
There are cheaper directional antennas available. Or build a DIY Wifi yagi antenna.
"Do you want the Baconator®, or do you wanna lose weight and feel good."
Tough choices
Mikrotik has some 1W models. However, this doesn't mean anything, since Wi-Fi data transmit depends on the end device aswell. You can catch the signal, but it won't even connect, because your end device has waay less power and is not able to send the packet with auth info.
If you have a spare phone laying around check it to how to extend wifi by wifi tethering I tested myself with these in Realme and samsung and Nokia
(in some phones they dont show Wifi tethering instead You can turn on hotspot after getting connected to wifi-Mi,Poco)
0:10 Is that the sound of the Red Alert 2 helicopter attacking with its gun?
Alternative antennas are illegal in some countries. The gain from the antenna increases the effective power.
But realistically, who's gonna sue you for that? It's like the TV licence fee, really.
"donut shape"
You mean a... circle?
Well, technically, omnidirectional antennas really do emit radio frequencies in a big donut shape. There's a dead zone directly above the antenna, so that contributes to the hole in the donut.
@@CaveyMoth Your comment made me hungry.
@@Harry-ly8dv Donut go there
Don't mind me not having a profile picture he was speaking American
Lmao
Just get a cheap router with bridge support and relay it that way, better yet, use an ethernet cable to connect them both and cut down on the chatter. If you have an old router laying around that does not come with this functionality, install LibreCMC or OpenWRT, or maybe even buy one that is officially supported by them.
focussing the power with an antenna is illegal since you increase the EIRP which is limited by the 200mW limit. EIRP = what your router supplies + external antenna = MAX 23dbm. With your antenna of 14dBi you increase this to 37dBm-> ILLEGAL
Oh, no! The FCC boogeyman will get me! Nobody is gonna care about that in pristine, you know.
If anything you just get a better quality Wap, higher dBa means more range, cisco 3702i and 3802i waps can go stupidly far but xirrus gives the highest range that I've seen, ubiquiti by far is the cheapest option for home setups and it's easier to just get a few of them to cover the house vs just one giant fast one. At the end of the day if your internet is slow nothing will make your wifi faster for internet use.
*MO POWAH BABY!*
Hell yah, *Donut Media*
@@kunalfindley158 shut the cjaxj up big
You should cover some Comptia A+ material man. I think we could definitely learn a lot from you. Or a guide on how to break into the IT industry with no experience and just certs.
I litteraly baught 4 14" 14dbi antennas off Amazon and replaced my nighthawks antennas with these and now pickup my wifi three times further down the street. Their 9.99 for two on Amazon and just screw right on.
I set my WiFi to the 2.4 GHZ band only. The speed I am getting is good enough. The lower frequency gives better range and greater reliability for my type of use.
I saw a pulseway ad with Linus in it on this video
I wired my entire building of 13 apartment units + 4 commercial units with wifi using used Linksys routers in bridge mode ($30 - $35 per Gbit router). Everyone's been super happy with it and it's been over a year since installation.
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i have no idea what you mean by all of this. i simply wrapped my ethernet cable around my flip phone and it worked well enough for me, no need to pay for stuff like that just use a simple trick lol. also if for some reason that's not enough you can use the "salad bowl" trick. look it up.
My favourite and most imformative channel.
You should make a techquickie on why youtube doesn't keep their smart tv app updated well even on modern tvs from this year or last year
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200mw is plenty enough power with 28db of gain! If you had and antenna with 28db of gain @ 200mw that's like having +120watt EIRP.
Good video. I understood most of what you said. Ha-Ha. I Really don't have a range issue, but a strength issue. I want to use my Laptop in my garage so I can get on the net and find out things as I work on cars. My problem is, I have to have my phone or computer in front of the window. The shop is about 70 feet from my house and I have metal siding on the outside of in walls and roof. When I move away from the window, I lose connection to the net. Is there some way I can increase the strength of the signal or get into my shop without sitting in front of the window. I want to be anywhere in my shop and pick up a signal. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 👍👍
*_How to Extend Wi-Fi Range on the CHEAP_*
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*_Nobody_* - *by curving a foil paper behind the WiFi router antennas* 😂
Cut beer can is better
Behind or between the router and me ?!
@@CrashBashL behind
@@BusAlexey yeah, I've done it and it works.
@@CrashBashL lol u said behind
just buy access points and put them around the house, just make sure your router will support it
I was getting terrible internet speed on my Amazon Fire Stick when streaming shows. What I was watching would take forever to load and it would play at very low quality most of the time.
The problem is that my internet router is in my office at one end of my house. The Fire Stick is about 20 feet away in a different room so the wireless signal has to pass through about 4 different walls.
Using the tip at 2:56 by lowering the channels from 80 MHz to 40 MHz solved the problem immediately. Thanks :]
How do you do that?
@@MH-et4bo I literally just explained it. Did you even watch the video?
i live in a place where i have well over 40 different wifi networks in range and even 5ghz band has no free channel. I even considered alu foiling the walls and wallpaper over it. But that gets pricy really fast.
Make a dish out of the aluminium foil to bounce the waves away from that wall to your neighbor lol
Thats what he did. Or some else and worked very well.
Thanks for the good info i didnt know about a lot of what you said!! good info!! and I even went to school for the stuff!! thanks!!
I've been pondering if I should set up a second wi-fi access point in my house, just for my five 2.4GHZ wireless security cameras (that are constantly steaming with RTSP while each using roughly 50 to 200 KB/s bandwidth)? I've also noticed that if my Roku is having trouble playing a particular video stream, it will often improve dramatically after I reboot the device. I presume that's because it's finding a better channel but it seems odd that I have to restart the device to make it do that...
Linus if you are Canadian how are you able to use privacy dot com? It’s us residents only.
I use Google wifi to extend my Wifi.
I googled "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my Wifi.
I googled "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my Wifi to extend my "Google Wifi" to get Google Wifi to extend my Wifi!
Jeppe Dalgaard Nielsen google WiFi is trash
The-terminator i’ve had very good experiences with google wifi
@@NugNugTheNugget i prefer the smartthing router
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Ah yes. Getting road blocked by our wireless when trying to watch tech quickie. it's all happened to us. Everyone.
Or just cut up a soda can put it behind the antennas do direct the signals where you want them to go.
Feel like I've seen this title about 2853 times about now
Ethernet cables for the win. High bandwidth _and_ fast. Also not laggy.
I always just use channel 165 20 MHz on 5 GHz. It's only technically slower, but in Canada my router can transmit a whole 4W, plus all the non-DFS channels are taken up by overlapping networks anyway, since everyone's AP's 🌆 appear to be set up by default to use 40-80MHz wide channels. I only signed up for 100 mbps Internet service anyway and my link speed at 20 MHz is around 130 mbps within my 🏡. I can even get 1.5 Mbps, enough to stream 480p or do basic email/messaging/social media, and real time transit schedules at the bus stop across the street.
Microwave ovens are also a big source of noise that interfere with 2.4GH WiFi.
Missed the opportunity to say " more powaa baby "
Tinfoil will extend the signal 2 or 3 times distance. I use tinfoil and it 100% works.
I have 4 4k tv and 2 computer computer monitors with 4k . I think 540p is just as good as 720p or 1080p. The real solution is to STOP USING 1080p. 720p 30fps should become the standard and then we won't need to worry about high speed connections. 1mb/s is more than enough for a 720p 30fps at .265. If you live in an apartment than range isn't an issue but if you have a 3 acre lot, suddenly range matters a whole lot.
Uh
Please get your eyes checked and don't drive yourself until doing so.
@@tim3172 Obviously I can tell the diference is I try, I just don't think the difference matters. I actually did a test about a year go where I had a 1080p video image rendered down to 540p and 720p. Few people sitting on the coach 4m away were certain of the change. some of them often were able to label the 540p video but again they weren't certain. None of they were certain if the video clip was 720p or 1080p. I had them stair at the screen and hold up fingers to tell when the resolution changed and what the new resolution was. Keep in mind they were older adults. This was on a 65"4k tv. For the most part people just care about white balance and color saturation. A 720p with the right settings is all anyone will ever need. And yes I own 4k tv. THey were on sale and are more future proof. I almost never watch 4k content. 4k content is bandwidth abuse. oh and I watch most youtube videos at 360p.
You didn't mention anything bout the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequencies? It's basically what you say at the start, slower speed for more range, just that it is split up in two different wifi-networks for the user to get the option to connect to whichever they want.
LIKED. Nice video, good info, watched until the end, I learned a lot here but I don’t like the commercial. I pay for RUclips prime so I don’t have to deal with advertising. Maybe you could provide a warning or partition your advertising. Thanks. I’ll be back.
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You can use an old router as an extender if you don’t want to buy one.
I found one that works and supports 5 G and paid only $5 dollars. A good thrift store find.
Really cool video what you recommend for a 4000 square ft house with the router upstairs
Do those wifi extenders actually work, and are they worth it?
Being a massive sellout is probably the best way to improve your internet speeds, isn't it Linus
OK so which part is the 'on the CHEAP'-part?
Can I use a Home-hub 2000 or Home-hub 3000 as a WiFi extender or WiFi repeater?
Get a router that supports OpenWRT and has electronics that can handle overclocking. I remember doing this to some good 'ol blue linksys router (on 2.4G) a couple of years ago.
And Baconcheeseburger, please.