He tended to force things/shots in Philly and didn't give it up to Dr J., Collins or McGinnis much. But more comfortable in SD, knew he was the man and thus, played more under control.
wrong, he was an explosive talent trying to get his, his offensive capabilities were not maximized in Philly just like the skills of Joe Bryant AND Darryl Dawkins were NOT maximized in Philly but it was a crowded talented roster so someone had to be sacrificed. I watched him practice at F&M college in the late 70s and his years as a 76er were he was sacrificed for Doug Collins. He was NOT a gunning ball hog, he was a guy who could get 30 on any night against anybody since the day he stepped into the league, just like Andrew Toney, they both walked into the league and played like men from day one. Had he been played more in the 1977 finals things might have been different, Collins played twice as many minutes and scored 6 pts in the elimination game, we needed offense and watched Collins struggle while the weapon that was Lloyd Free sat. Gene Shue dropped the ball.
@@tonygajate5780 well Erving & Collins were established stars. Free didn't seem to accept that. That was probably true about Bryant as well. By contrast, Portland was made up of unselfish, team oriented players who didn't care who got "theirs ."
@@Amick44 Collins was not a star, Doc AND McGinnis were the stars, Collins had the hype, he was good but he was no fuckin Paul Westpaul, he was 1/3 the player Westpaul was, Free had a better career than Collins and was a more potent weapon than Collins. THAT is where COACHING comes into play and Gene Shue chose the wrong guy to saddle up with, that is NOT World B or J. Bryants's fault that they didn't get the minutes and touches they should have that falls on the coaching staff. I watched this as it all happened, I cried like a bitch in 1977 when Portland won and I was on Broad street for the parade when Philly won in 1983. The Portland series turned in game 2 when Maurice Lucas punched Darryl Dawkins and that took the sixer's balls and solidified the resolve of the trailblazers. The Blazers were emboldened and Philly splintered and Gene Shue made NO adjustments to turn the tide, that shit still hurts. I can still see McGinnis's OPEN leaning 10 ft jumper miss and the Sixes lose. McGinnis played like garbage that series, except for the last game but he did not hit the one that counted.
@@tonygajate5780 McGinnis put up numbers. Garbage in the playoffs as u said. Collins was a star, not a superstar. Free, better career, yeah. Cause of Doug's career shortening foot injuries, like Andrew Toney later on. Sixers had plenty of talent, but short on teamwork & cohesion. McGinnis an overrated box score stuffer. Great in the ABA where defense wasn't emphasized much.
@@Amick44 you are right in that Philly just didn't play as a cohesive unit, had Billy Cunningham been the coach in 1977 things would have been different for sure
Wow. WBF dismantling All-Timers Magic, Spencer, Wilkes, and Kareem? Oh Lawd. This group stormed through the League on their way to the chip against Doc !
Vinnie didn't average over 20 for a decade straight or for his career like World did, Vinnie was nice but World B averaged 30 a game in 1979, he was REAL, REAL nice. World scored more career pts than Chris Mullin, Magic, J Kidd, Nash, Dumars, Archibald, Tim Hardaway, D Johnson. World B was a real one, watched him play since his rookie season
no, World B was more Andrew Toney, AI thrived on speed and quickness, World relied on power and jumping ability, AI goes past you, World and Toney go through you
@@Amick44 i am happy to see that you appreciate his game, go watch him go against MJ, World B catches the ball, squares up, makes strong moves, elevates and scores right in his eyeballs, no fear, oh MJ's on me, kick it to me, I got this. That was World B for a decade. Dude averaged 30 ppg in 1979. That was in a league where they actually played defense and were allowed to touch and talk to eachother not this matador don't look at me or touch me shit or its a flagrant 2 that we have today. He would torch today's NBA. I remember him as a rookie watched him in training camp at F&M college in 1979. He was one explosive athlete, built like a rock, think Vinnie Johnson with hops.
Be free Was giving Magic that Work!
He tended to force things/shots in Philly and didn't give it up to Dr J., Collins or McGinnis much. But more comfortable in SD, knew he was the man and thus, played more under control.
wrong, he was an explosive talent trying to get his, his offensive capabilities were not maximized in Philly just like the skills of Joe Bryant AND Darryl Dawkins were NOT maximized in Philly but it was a crowded talented roster so someone had to be sacrificed. I watched him practice at F&M college in the late 70s and his years as a 76er
were he was sacrificed for Doug Collins. He was NOT a gunning ball hog, he was a guy who could get 30 on any night against anybody since the day he stepped into the league, just like Andrew Toney, they both walked into the league and played like men from day one. Had he been played more in the 1977 finals things might have been different, Collins played twice as many minutes and scored 6 pts in the elimination game, we needed offense and watched Collins struggle while the weapon that was Lloyd Free sat. Gene Shue dropped the ball.
@@tonygajate5780 well Erving & Collins were established stars. Free didn't seem to accept that. That was probably true about Bryant as well.
By contrast, Portland was made up of unselfish, team oriented players who didn't care who got "theirs ."
@@Amick44 Collins was not a star, Doc AND McGinnis were the stars, Collins had the hype, he was good but he was no fuckin Paul Westpaul, he was 1/3 the player Westpaul was, Free had a better career than Collins and was a more potent weapon than Collins. THAT is where COACHING comes into play and Gene Shue chose the wrong guy to saddle up with, that is NOT World B or J. Bryants's fault that they didn't get the minutes and touches they should have that falls on the coaching staff. I watched this as it all happened, I cried like a bitch in 1977 when Portland won and I was on Broad street for the parade when Philly won in 1983. The Portland series turned in game 2 when Maurice Lucas punched Darryl Dawkins and that took the sixer's balls and solidified the resolve of the trailblazers. The Blazers were emboldened and Philly splintered and Gene Shue made NO adjustments to turn the tide, that shit still hurts. I can still see McGinnis's OPEN leaning 10 ft jumper miss and the Sixes lose. McGinnis played like garbage that series, except for the last game but he did not hit the one that counted.
@@tonygajate5780 McGinnis put up numbers. Garbage in the playoffs as u said. Collins was a star, not a superstar. Free, better career, yeah. Cause of Doug's career shortening foot injuries, like Andrew Toney later on.
Sixers had plenty of talent, but short on teamwork & cohesion.
McGinnis an overrated box score stuffer. Great in the ABA where defense wasn't emphasized much.
@@Amick44 you are right in that Philly just didn't play as a cohesive unit, had Billy Cunningham been the coach in 1977 things would have been different for sure
Wow. WBF dismantling All-Timers Magic, Spencer, Wilkes, and Kareem? Oh Lawd. This group stormed through the League on their way to the chip against Doc !
Lloyd Free: an All-Star player on a lousy team. (But for his early days with the Sixers).
Vinnie Johnson of the Detroit Pistons and Lloyd Free are badass.
Vinnie didn't average over 20 for a decade straight or for his career like World did, Vinnie was nice but World B averaged 30 a game in 1979, he was REAL, REAL nice. World scored more career pts than Chris Mullin, Magic, J Kidd, Nash, Dumars, Archibald, Tim Hardaway, D Johnson. World B was a real one, watched him play since his rookie season
You can definitely see the similarities. "The Microwave" VJ definitely patterned his game after WBF. They are both from Brooklyn as well...
Allen Iverson of mid 70's, mid 80's, but better shot selection, believe it or not.
no, World B was more Andrew Toney, AI thrived on speed and quickness, World relied on power and jumping ability, AI goes past you, World and Toney go through you
@@tonygajate5780 sure. Style wise yes.
@@Amick44 i am happy to see that you appreciate his game, go watch him go against MJ, World B catches the ball, squares up, makes strong moves, elevates and scores right in his eyeballs, no fear, oh MJ's on me, kick it to me, I got this. That was World B for a decade. Dude averaged 30 ppg in 1979. That was in a league where they actually played defense and were allowed to touch and talk to eachother not this matador don't look at me or touch me shit or its a flagrant 2 that we have today. He would torch today's NBA. I remember him as a rookie watched him in training camp at F&M college in 1979. He was one explosive athlete, built like a rock, think Vinnie Johnson with hops.
That's something about him he fried every body
His hairline was disrespectful.
Blatant travel at 25 seconds in. Apparently they didn't call it back then already.