@@BBUYTTV This !!! Their attitudes captured the nation. Had it been total jerks like Canseco and Ramirez, no one would have cared. More people hated Bonds for breaking the record than for putting up 73.
As a bodybuilder for the last 20+ years, I'm well educated in the world of anabolics. I know what they do and don't do. I was a McGwire fan from his Rookie season through his retirement and still am. I believe he was the greatest pure HR hitter to ever play. I believe that his steroid use (likely testosterone and deca primarily) had the least effect on his numbers compared to Sosa and Bonds. He led the NCAA in HR's at USC and set the single season USC HR record. Hit 49 as a Rookie, etc. While he certainly added muscle and changed his body composition, I think where he benefited most was in his recovery and ability to play enough games in a single season to break 61. A couple things to note: First, he played the majority of his career in Oakland, well known for being the worst hitters park in MLB....where HR's go to die. Had he played in Chicago (Wrigley) or Boston, he likely would have broken the record his Rookie season. Even Canseco said McGwire lost 15 HR's a year in that park. Secondly, he had been "on pace" to his 61+ multiple times in his career when injuries derailed him. In the strike shortened 1995 season he hit 39 HR's in just 103 games. In 1996 he hit 52 HR's in 130 games. In 2000 he was on pace to threated his own record of 70, hitting 32 HR's in just 87 games before a knee injury. The man was a born HR hitter. Sosa had been in the league 10 years and hit 40 just once in that time, then has 4 straight seasons of 66, 63, 50, and 64. Bonds only hit 50 HR's once in his career....when he hit 73...sticks out like a sore thumb. It's very easy for the layman to just say "steroids" when a picture or stat appears of any of these guys. Bottom line is a lot of work went into their craft and more importantly, the talent had to already be there from the start. That's what seems to get overlooked. There are 750 players at a time in MLB. It's well perceived that around 80% of them were on some degree of PED's in those years......yet only McGwire and Sosa (and then Bonds) were cracking HR's at a record pace. If the talent and ability is not already there, no amount of anabolics will turn you into a record breaker.
Where you getting 80% from? There are plenty of testimonies of players having integrity and never cheating 80% is a bold claim. Even if it helped them 10-15% in whatever metrics it’s still cheating.
@@chunkymonkey428 From the multiple players and managers of that era that all have stated that it was rampant during those years and many of them put that percentage at around 75-80. I trust that more than players saying they didn't do it. Steroids can work in multiple ways depending on the compound, how it's used and how the person trains...in other words you can use them and improve without gaining significant muscle mass to "look" like someone that is enhanced. I know many gym rats that use and look like nothing, lol. Regardless of the actual number, you're splitting hairs. Technically it wasn't cheating as Baseball had no rules in place for steroid use at that time. Now, that's not me condoning it....just stating a fact. My main point was that even with rampant use, only 2 guys were consistently hitting 60+
I remember following the home run race at the time. Everybody was talking about it. There was a real jolt of electricity throughout the baseball world and even among non baseball fans. However , shortly thereafter, once home run inflation became commonplace, and rumors of PEDs could no longer be ignored, the excitement turned to indifference , skepticism and profound disappointment that the whole thing had becime meaningless. At fisst, 70 home runs seemed like a Herculean feat, but pretty soon, it really didn't mean that much as Sosa and bonds we're just crushing homers all the time.. hot bonds stayed healthy, who knows how many he could have hit. It all became very cheap
McGuire, Bonds, Clemens, and A-Rod among others deserve to be in the hall of fame, especially if Selig gets all the credit but none of the blame for steroids rejuvenating baseball's status in the public eye during the 90's. Selig is in the hall of fame despite his role in the steroid era, so too should be those legends who were allowed to dominate while he turned a blind eye to reap the returns of their efforts.
Selig is in because of the economic changes he brought to the game. And deservedly so. The liars who cheated with chemicals lied and lied again. Actions have consequences. Let them deal with their actions.
@@danno6501bud Selig also did many things to hurt teams/players/baseball. Including allowing steroids to run rampant up until the point it became controversial.
@@danno6501Selig also lied about everything steroid related. To cover it up for his economic recovery. So your argument loses all traction right there.
Still have to hit a round ball with a round bat. It’s no different than bodybuilding, people can take steroids their whole life and never be Ronnie or Dorian or Brian Shaw or Arnold. You still have to have a natural element of talent. How much they helped Mark, we will never know
Put McGwire in the Hall Of Fame. He was a good teammate and a creature of his era. They were real. I would have opposed it if the league was doing everything they could to stop steroid abuse. They weren't and vouched for the game being clean. Bud Selig is in. McGwire can be in as well.
Never had an issue with anyone using anything. You still need the talent to do anything with it. Bonds had a borderline HOF Career with the pirates. Far more stories of people using some form of steroids/HGH etc and not making the majors or flaming out.
I saw him hit 38 homers in 1 at bat. I raised an eyebrow ..
That wasn't your eyebrow
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Steroids saved baseball, not mark and sammy.
@@hectorlopez1069 True enough, but I would say Mark and Sammy had a big impact.
I doubt you were alive to have seen it…@@hectorlopez1069
@@BBUYTTV This !!! Their attitudes captured the nation. Had it been total jerks like Canseco and Ramirez, no one would have cared. More people hated Bonds for breaking the record than for putting up 73.
As a bodybuilder for the last 20+ years, I'm well educated in the world of anabolics. I know what they do and don't do. I was a McGwire fan from his Rookie season through his retirement and still am. I believe he was the greatest pure HR hitter to ever play. I believe that his steroid use (likely testosterone and deca primarily) had the least effect on his numbers compared to Sosa and Bonds. He led the NCAA in HR's at USC and set the single season USC HR record. Hit 49 as a Rookie, etc. While he certainly added muscle and changed his body composition, I think where he benefited most was in his recovery and ability to play enough games in a single season to break 61. A couple things to note: First, he played the majority of his career in Oakland, well known for being the worst hitters park in MLB....where HR's go to die. Had he played in Chicago (Wrigley) or Boston, he likely would have broken the record his Rookie season. Even Canseco said McGwire lost 15 HR's a year in that park. Secondly, he had been "on pace" to his 61+ multiple times in his career when injuries derailed him. In the strike shortened 1995 season he hit 39 HR's in just 103 games. In 1996 he hit 52 HR's in 130 games. In 2000 he was on pace to threated his own record of 70, hitting 32 HR's in just 87 games before a knee injury. The man was a born HR hitter.
Sosa had been in the league 10 years and hit 40 just once in that time, then has 4 straight seasons of 66, 63, 50, and 64. Bonds only hit 50 HR's once in his career....when he hit 73...sticks out like a sore thumb.
It's very easy for the layman to just say "steroids" when a picture or stat appears of any of these guys. Bottom line is a lot of work went into their craft and more importantly, the talent had to already be there from the start. That's what seems to get overlooked. There are 750 players at a time in MLB. It's well perceived that around 80% of them were on some degree of PED's in those years......yet only McGwire and Sosa (and then Bonds) were cracking HR's at a record pace. If the talent and ability is not already there, no amount of anabolics will turn you into a record breaker.
This is a really great comment. Thank you for providing this information and additional context. Thank you for the comment!
Where you getting 80% from? There are plenty of testimonies of players having integrity and never cheating 80% is a bold claim. Even if it helped them 10-15% in whatever metrics it’s still cheating.
@@chunkymonkey428 From the multiple players and managers of that era that all have stated that it was rampant during those years and many of them put that percentage at around 75-80. I trust that more than players saying they didn't do it. Steroids can work in multiple ways depending on the compound, how it's used and how the person trains...in other words you can use them and improve without gaining significant muscle mass to "look" like someone that is enhanced. I know many gym rats that use and look like nothing, lol. Regardless of the actual number, you're splitting hairs. Technically it wasn't cheating as Baseball had no rules in place for steroid use at that time. Now, that's not me condoning it....just stating a fact. My main point was that even with rampant use, only 2 guys were consistently hitting 60+
His career was ending mid nineties then he used peds and it gave him bat spead
@@DavidMcdonald-df8tbThe bat speed was already there....the PED's kept him in the lineup and off the DL
I remember following the home run race at the time. Everybody was talking about it. There was a real jolt of electricity throughout the baseball world and even among non baseball fans.
However , shortly thereafter, once home run inflation became commonplace, and rumors of PEDs could no longer be ignored, the excitement turned to indifference , skepticism and profound disappointment that the whole thing had becime meaningless.
At fisst, 70 home runs seemed like a Herculean feat, but pretty soon, it really didn't mean that much as Sosa and bonds we're just crushing homers all the time.. hot bonds stayed healthy, who knows how many he could have hit. It all became very cheap
A HR every 10.6 at bats best all time.
He never needed to use it to begin with ...it only shorted his greatness @markmcgwire ❤⚾
His early career seems to indicate that. You can't get off to a much better start to a career than the one he had. Thank you for your comment!
McGuire, Bonds, Clemens, and A-Rod among others deserve to be in the hall of fame, especially if Selig gets all the credit but none of the blame for steroids rejuvenating baseball's status in the public eye during the 90's. Selig is in the hall of fame despite his role in the steroid era, so too should be those legends who were allowed to dominate while he turned a blind eye to reap the returns of their efforts.
Agreed. The only piece I would add is that there should be some mention about the era on their HOF plaques. Thank you for the comment!
Selig is in because of the economic changes he brought to the game. And deservedly so. The liars who cheated with chemicals lied and lied again. Actions have consequences. Let them deal with their actions.
@@danno6501bud Selig also did many things to hurt teams/players/baseball. Including allowing steroids to run rampant up until the point it became controversial.
@@danno6501Selig also lied about everything steroid related. To cover it up for his economic recovery. So your argument loses all traction right there.
They should and just give them an asterisk. As steroid user.
Still have to hit a round ball with a round bat. It’s no different than bodybuilding, people can take steroids their whole life and never be Ronnie or Dorian or Brian Shaw or Arnold. You still have to have a natural element of talent. How much they helped Mark, we will never know
Good comment. You definitely made the key point regarding McGwire, Bonds, Clemens, etc. we will never know just how much they helped.
Still my hero favorite player of all time
Put McGwire in the Hall Of Fame. He was a good teammate and a creature of his era.
They were real. I would have opposed it if the league was doing everything they could to stop steroid abuse. They weren't and vouched for the game being clean.
Bud Selig is in. McGwire can be in as well.
1985 Topps Team USA card was hot back in the day.
No doubt! I still have mine! Thanks for the comment
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He honestly didn’t look roided up in the beginning
I agree he looked tall and lean
Steroids were already prevalent in the 1980s. Especially in college. They help with bat spead. He and Bonds could have taken some by their first year
Never had an issue with anyone using anything.
You still need the talent to do anything with it.
Bonds had a borderline HOF Career with the pirates.
Far more stories of people using some form of steroids/HGH etc and not making the majors or flaming out.
Players are private contractors. It’s extremely unfair to players that don’t want to juice and have to get hired by a team.
Then why do it
Roided to his gills
No doubt about that
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