It's one of the things alot of people I think over-look with Gordon Ramsey. He's an asshole on TV because it's part of his persona now, especially in US tv, that said he's just passionate about food. Even with the Pad Thai he asks "Okay, I fucked it up, show me!", he's not above critique and wanting to learn to honor the food's roots he is making. I forget which of his shows but someone states "I want to make one of your dishes", a dessert Gordon points out typically takes *HOURS* to make and he does it in 45 minutes but changing it ever so slightly. Gordon walks up, tries it, without saying a fucking word goes back to his seat and then returns and essentially without saying it outright stresses that he's impressed as hell and the look on his face before his return is like "Well fuck me, he outdid me at one of my own desserts in a 1/3rd the time". He's rude, a bit crude at time but so was his mentor.
Nothing is worse than people who can’t take a joke. Quite a few of the people he has made vids on have then made vids with him or have at least had a laugh in the comments to show they are cool with it. Jamie must have been aware of it all but never said anything giving an indication he’s a bit salty about it all.
Gordon has blamed his producer any time I've seen him criticized. Pretty bad look for someone who has tried to always have a reputation as a leader not a follower.
Imagine Oliver offering the Russians a master class in "proper" Asian cuisine and encouraging them to spread their "knowledge" to their neighbors in the east. China would disown them so hard they'd fall right off the map.
I think by mostly exposing it to more people I didn't know about Jamie Oliver Until i saw Uncle Roger If i saw it from another medium i would have though that maybe he was good...
Yep, if you are a professional chef and are intent on making videos to show others how to make a dish, you should probably make it how its supposed to be made. If you want to substitute something, at least explain why you are using the substitution and what you should be using if you want a more authentic dish.
one other thing i dont hear people talking about is that Jamie Oliver is also hated in brazil for saying that Brigadeiro (a chocolate creamy fudge covered in sprinkles that is known as the brazilian signature dessert) tastes like shit in the face of a brazilian chef small hint to everyone, never shit on a country signature meal, specially if its a place with as much prideful people as Brazil
I saw the Uncle Roger Hot Ones video, and one of the prompts was for Uncle Roger to give Jamie Oliver a heartfelt apology. Yea, he immediately ate the wing without any hesitation.
Jamie Oliver visited my hometown area when he went to try to "fix" the school lunches there. In truth, he came off as arrogant and bashed the lunch ladies and nutritionists instead of the government workers who dictate the mandatory requirements to said lunch ladies and schools.
He's a clueless hack who doesn't have an ounce of cooking skills in his body. I think i respect the average RUclipsr foodie that genuinely tries even if they fail, more, than this absolute trashdump of a disaster. Honestly, every time he makes food... i'm repulsed. And i used to room with a dude who came back from benders back in Uni and he'd make some fucking disgusting looking dishes in the morning to "wake" "up". Probably tasted better than JO food too.
I don't blame him. They allow it. Why do you think this happens? Because people are too cowardly to stand up for what's right. How can you do that when children are involved? "I was afraid of losing my job" isn't an excuse. The cafeteria staff and nutritionists share the blame.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rtAh yes Eylene aged 53 and a Lunch lady is really going to make a change across the country by saying food isnt healthy 😂 Get your head out if your ass.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rtwtf is wrong with you. Go then. Be the force of change. Enjoy getting fired and replaced instantly for not following the rules. Seriously. “Why didn’t you go against the people who pay you at your minimum wage job” is the most brain dead take I’ve ever seen. Get off the internet, you’ve got a terminal case of internet induced incompetence.
What i like about Gordon is that while he gets criticised, he loves to learn about others ways of cooking especially if they are masters at that style/dish so he rarely lashes out. His persona may be angry but in a lot of the docu series' he's willing to change and learn from those better.
Plus him and Uncle Roger getting along (they don't have to be like the best of friends) works out well for fans of both. I grew up watching Gordon before I knew about Uncle Roger. So again, best of both worlds
Which is what he expects from those on his shows. A lot of the chefs there act like they know everything there is to know about cooking when it's very clear that they don't. A lot of them are extremely arrogant and Gordon doesn't like that so he yells at them to take them down a few notches. Whether or not it works in the long term, I dunno, but that's how he is. In fact, people compare his behaviour with a adults to his behaviour with children and there's a huge difference simply because he knows these little ones don't have all the knowledge, therefore he makes sure to be a literal teacher and help them whenever they mess up and praise them whenever they do good so that they can slowly feel confident with their abilities yet hopefully not get bigheaded about it. Gordon's a good lad and he tries to do the best he can with his abilities and is always willing to know more instead of acting like he himself knows everything.
He tries to learn and research the traditional dish before making his own version. Jamie seems like he reads a wiki article and picks up whatever substitutes he thinks are ok on a 10 minute grocery run.
Gordon is actually a chill dude, those angry moments he have are only for tv shows kinda like a skit of some sorts to make the tv more entertaining In his documentaries where he's been traveling around the world to learn from the cultures and people who actually are part of those cultures, he's pretty humble and is willing to learn if he made mistakes, he actually listens to the people who are experts on their culture
That was my favorite episode of the F word for Gordon. That chef's deadass stare followed by "that's not pad thai". "I don't think it's too bad!" Chef: "For you..." 😂😂😂
Jamie closes his restaurants and "can't afford to pay his employees severance" but can afford a grade 1 listed estate for upwards of 6 million dollars. Classy guy!
yes, he should take care of his family and ensure their future well being more than he should care about his employees -- if you disagree then feel free to start your own restaurant, diner or fast food place
@@firstname4337 If you're gonna start a restaurant then paying your employees should always be a part of the consideration. Want to only consider your family? Make it a one man show. The employees have families too, the time you involve other people into your money making process is the time that money isn't just yours to keep anymore.
@@firstname4337 I mean yeah this is totally the mindset of a selfish, horrible person. Having empathy and caring for the wellbeing of those who rely on you outside of your family means YOU and YOURS get less and you cant have that can you? Step on everyone else just as long as you "get the bag", right? lol
@@firstname4337 as a restruant owner myself i dissagree one must alway have a plan to pay staff and severence in case of closure like you said looking after your family staff have family to.
I wanted to say.. like.. I found Uncle Rogers mildly entertaining at first. But to say he did anything here, is just disingenous. Jamie Oliver keeps destroying his own reputation, piece by piece over the years. I didnt think there was anything left years ago tbh.
@@thebigmeat4173 Just generally being an asshole, especially the amount of times he takes a traditional dish from somewhere and tries to "improve" it. It comes off as pretentious, even more when the dish he makes obviously sucks.
@@thebigmeat4173 Jamie "destroyer" Oliver? As a complete outsider, he barges into places to try to reinvent or correct local and traditional dishes people have been doing for as long as humanity exists, and did them all wrong almost all the time.
@@thebigmeat4173 He set up a load of restaurant chains that are their own LLC's so when (not if) they go bankrupt he doesn't owe staff unpaid wages, frequently owe lease moneys and in general has gone around behaving like a twat. He criticised Red Tractor for breeding meat heavy chickens (and in general), but ignored their core mission of affordable, sustainable agriculture. He also did stunts for PETA (for them btw) like slaughtering a live lamb without stunning or anaesthetising the animal even. You can go on and on.
A chef friend of mine once put serious thought into starting a RUclips channel where whenever Jamie Oliver puts up a video he would make the same dish done correctly to a professional standard. It would have been called ‘Oliver’s Correctional Officer.’
He can just not say anything but put on JO's or other scammy chefs' thumbnail or mini clip during his correctional cooking sessions so we all can compare the authenticity of each chefs. Silent demonstration is cool af tbh.
its like the composer/conductor didn't want to come to his greatest opus debut because he doesnt want to take away the attention from the symphony's musicians
His disastrous attempt to make an Italian feast… in an Italian village… while they rip him up for doing it all wrong. Trying to “improve” their traditional dishes. Wow.
I mean Italians are too prideful anyways. The claim they’re garlic masters or some shit but they aren’t even close to being the country that consumes the most garlic. South Korea is actually number 1 in garlic consumption.
@@Fatso97How did he ruin school meals? They're low quality processed crap that won't adequately nourish a developing child's brain so that they can learn. That was one of the actual positive things he tried to accomplish but didn't stand a chance due to all the subsidies and cost cutting of the US government.
In the US yes, that's because he wanted healthy food for the kids and criticised American junk food - the British, and with that the whole of Europe and Australia kept loving him, he's the best thing on this god's earth since Noah's Arch
@@ricklee5845 I'm from Scandinavia and as of my knowledge no one in Europe has ever loved him. It's not really that hard to make a star as long as he or she has a personality. With the right team you can make ANYONE seem as they are loved by everyone. Hitler? Putin? Dictators, sure, but I can name others as well. It was to make a point.
Uncle Roger doesn't ruin him. He ruins himself, but it was quieter because no one who actually knows about the food saw what Jamie Oliver had done to their food.
Something Jamie Oliver seems to not understand but Gordon does is that cooking is a lifelong learning process, you don’t just stop midway through and immediately start thinking that yours is the best and only way to
Unless you're French, or Italian, or apparently Asian at all. Then if you dont do it just so with just the "right" ingredients, you're a cultural appropriating reprobate.
@@cyberleaderandy1 Honestly I never thought of Jamie Oliver that way at all. I just saw him as another TV chef, and sometimes his recipes are good, and sometimes they're meh or just weird, just like most Tv chefs. I'm not sure if I get what you mean when calling him arrogant. But then again I had no idea he actually had a problem with is reputation so what do I know.
I wouldn't say it's fair to pin all of this credit/blame on Uncle Roger. Uncle Roger is just one of the more entertaining voices merely shining the light on what Jamie has already been doing on his own merit, that most of us were already aware of.
Honestly, I wouldn't know that Jamie Oliver does THAT much cultural appropriation in his recipes. He literally mixed up something into goo and called it "Thai green curry" while it's not even a GREEN GOO. And I thanked Uncle Roger for exposing this vandal of traditional foods towards MUCH MUCH more people, especially those that their very culture are being butchered by Jamie Oliver. Even if Jamie Oliver is already an evil existence for traditional food, I, and many others, thank Uncle Roger for exposing this rich little vandal to us. For us, without Uncle Roger, we 100% won't know about how horrible of a culture appropriator is Jamie Oliver.
Folding Ideas video was the reason I started to dislike this guy Jamie I hadn't heard from before, long before I knew of Uncle Roger (well, not long, but saying before twice without any separation was odd)
Yeah…. Do you normally not understand very obvious jokes and sarcasm and feel the need to point it out and try and make the person look dumb and in doing so, show how extremely dense you are? Ironic.
honestly its easy to see why uncle Roger and Gordon Ramsey have become such good friends, they both put on an act for entertainment but still truly care about the food and giving people an experience they'll remember positively or getting others into cooking. both recreational and professional
As an Asian I cried when I saw Jamie’s Egg fried rice, I’m not joking I almost teared up. (I’m not a egg fry rice lover but it’s still a war crime to use chili jam)
Explain why it's a 'war crime'. Don't just say you don't do it. Explain what the fuck is supposed to be SO bad about chilli jam in fried rice. Honestly cannot fucking stand the completely fake and exaggerated hysteria over this shit. The amount of fucking ingredients in Asian cooking for a start, and you got people pearl clutching over fucking CHILLI. What THE FUCK is wrong with you???
@@Nefariousbig Says the one pearl clutching over people not liking how Jamie excessively modifies recipes. Am I just supposed to mindlessly accept that the man thinks people should by putting sweet spreads in a dish meant to be savory and salty?
@@thegoodgeneral Trust me, it isn’t. Tried it on a friend’s suggestion, and Imagine slathering already cooked beef and rice in chili jam and eating that. It’s gross for me.
The way the lady drained the rice isnt wrong. For any average person working with anything other than sticky rice, this is actually how you cook it. Just cause that's the only way he knows how to cook a specific kind of rice, doesn't mean it's correct. I would know, I'm Indian, and making basmati rice compared to sticky rice is completely different.
A few things; the sugar tax has increased obesity, and had a drastic impact on type 1 diabetics because of the lucozade recipe change to turn it from a glucose drink to a caffeine based energy drink, and the changes that Jamie Oliver advocated for, have resulted in a drastic increase in poverty and people starving to death. It's a poor people tax primarily.
I don't like the guy either, but it's not like cheap high sugar softdrinks are needed to survive when you are poor. Saying people starve because of him is giving him to much credit.
@@peterpan4038 They actually are though, they're cheap calories that hold off starvation. When a bottle of drink is 198 calories, that's 198 more calories to not die of starvation. But he also got rid of meal deals and buy on get one free offers on cheap food. The sugary drinks thing has a bigger impact on type 1 diabetics though. They used to use lucozade in hospital to treat insulin crashes in type 1 diabetics, but now can't, and now there are none available in the UK that aren't filled with artificial sweeteners. It's also worth noting that artificial sweeteners, and stevia, have been proven to cause multiple types of cancers, and a surprising amount of people are intolerant to them and get extremely sick from ingesting them, much like myself
@@raven4442 None of this makes ANY sense, as long as all of us are able to buy literal pallets full of cheap refined sugar at each and every grocery store. That and there are more ways to eat or drink high sugar stuff than soft drinks. Pack a Snickers, a bottle of apple juice, a banana, or if you are really desperate for cheap sugary drinks for health emergency reasons: fill a bottle with home made sugar water. Heck, most type 2 diabetics have that particular illness BECAUSE they ate/ drank to much cheap sugar for years. Saying type 1 diabetics desperately need a particular brand of sweet soft drink is silly at best, and a bona fida strawman at worst.
@@peterpan4038 7-30-24 It's not that the Apple Juice, Banana, or Snickers is worse, it's just when you are experiencing a crash where the body is producing too much insulin and needs a quick sugar boost, you need simple sugar that can easily go to taking care of the crash. Soft Drinks WITH SUGAR, can stop a sugar crash much quicker because it's more readily available and doesn't require much digestion to get the sugar out of the food and into your bloodstream. And it's cheap, readily available (you don't need to PLAN by making sugar water in advance or packing a Snickers.), and tastes good. Sugar Water is just sweet. Fun fact, Lucozade was originally called "Glucozade", like Glucose, the simple sugar. It's a sports drink. It had 62 grams of sugar per every 500 ml container. Now, it just has 22.5 grams. Learn more here about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucozade
@@michaelschlem2849 And i have to stop you after "It's not that the Apple Juice, Banana, or Snickers is worse". Because if it's not worse, it's not worse. And as i already said: If you really need to be cheap to the max, a bottle of literal sugar water is the cheapest possible option. Hence i'm asking you: If the situation is THAT bad, is it really to much to ask to carry something sweet like some candy, or as i proposed a bottle of sugar water with you at all times? I mean a bottle of Lucozade won't just magically fall out of the sky either, you have to buy it and potentially carry it with you too. But keep up your silly Lucozade strawman, by pretending it's higher sugar variant was the only readily available and cheap way to get some much needed sugar. Heck, even the new version with less sugar goes well past the 15/15 rule. You know, the rule for what do do in case of hypoglycemia, quote: "If a person living with type 1 diabetes or type 2 diabetes notices symptoms of low blood sugar, they can take steps to help raise their blood glucose levels to an acceptable range. According to the American Diabetes Association (ADA), a person should check blood glucose levels first. If the levels are less than 70 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dl), consume a sugary snack or drink containing 15 grams (g) of carbohydrates, then recheck blood sugar levels after about 15 minutes. This is known as the 15-15 rule. If the levels are still low, repeat the process and consume another sugary food or drink. Once the levels have returned to normal, a person can return to their regular meal and snack schedule." => Hypoglycemia can certainly kill someone, but it's not a fast process, you have plenty of time to get your blood sugar levels up again. A buddy of mine with type 1 diabetes carries a bag of gummy bears with him at all times for this very reason, and last time i checked he was still very much alive and kicking.
The worst part is Jamie could have fixed and repaired all of his infamy if he actually collaborated with Uncle Roger or gone for the Uncle title. Uncle Roger just started making videos for fun,but now it escalated to the point where it came on his reputation…Jamie must have probably taken these videos personally,that’s what I think.
@@Redxminder nah I wouldn’t call him shit. See here’s the thing, he’s not that bad…some his Italian and British recipes are good…he’s basically like an experienced home cook level chef who got famous.
He started under the giant, Antonio Carluccio. One of the greatest Italian chefs and a master of his craft. Jamie was a pastry chef and is a dickhead, but still. He earnt his whites from a master.
The sugar tax ruined Lucozade. It was the perfect hypo stop for me. Being a diabetic I need a decent drink to raise my sugar quickly if it drops. Lucozade did this perfectly, and kept it up so it wouldn't start dropping again. They halved the sugar content, and replaced it with sweeteners. Now it doesn't work as good. In fact nearly all non-diet drinks now do this. They bulk up the sweetness with sweeteners. So now we all drink more chemicals. Only Coca-Cola is still full sugar. Thanks a lot, Jamie.
Yep, ruined Pepsi ribina too. I can’t believe he was responsible for that!! What a f k g t*** that artificial sweetener is soooo bad for the brain, no wonder people have memory issues and brain diseases
The thing is that these sweeteners are more harmfull than the sugar... its like you only can fill your joint half with marijiuhana, the other half has to be cocaine...
I mean I get hating on Jamie’s cooking, it’s not that special. But hating him for wanting better food for kids and stopping companies from getting us addicted to sugar is crazy
Jamie's Italian in Australia definitely was affected, the last one here closed in 2023 owing $1 million, I never knew anyone who attended, mostly because we have a lot of great Italian restaurants already that don't serve overpriced pretentious slop, he slapped his name on them and ignored Australia completely
As someone who worked in one of his venues, i ran away from the industry for a year after 2.5months in the flagship restaurant... I was incredibly happy hearing the news
Gordon took the Pad Thai comments on the chin and with a stiff upper lip. He didn't question it other than "I didn't think it was too bad" because for him, he put his all in. He also knows that he's not a master of Pad Thai like the other chef and, at least from what I saw, didn't pull the "I'm a famous chef so I know what I'm doing" card.
In the presence of other veteran chefs, Gordon's usually a lot more humble than his TV persona suggests. Good on him for not letting his reputation go to his head and still being keen to learn.
The sauce for pad thai has only 3 ingredients: palm sugar, tamarind sauce, fish sauce. From the video he used too much white sugar (not exactly wrong but in the video they already had palm sugar for him). Maybe he used the standard according to his taste, which he might think is good for him, but definitely not according to the Thai chef.
Cooking is fun when you don't have people yelling at you about how you didn't do it right. As long as I'm not hungry at the end of the day, I don't see the problem.
Definitely. Stir fry, or soup or porridge can put in anything edible and still be delicious and nutritious at the same time. You just got to know your personal diet requirements and you'll be fine.
My grandmother, my aunt and myself collectively screeched when we saw Jamie Oliver add water to his fried rice. Three generations of Asians with different views of life finally agreeing on something - we collectively think it's crazy.
Weird to think the initial video could have been an olive branch to repair his public image that he refused to take and just dug the already big hole deeper.
The Michelin star was originally made to rate restaurants that have good food with great price for people travelling on road trips. Now it's more about taste, technique, and presentation of the food AND service. Nowadays for good food with great price Michelin made the Bib Gourmand mark so look for those instead.
Don't think he's ever wanted a Michelin star. People comparing him to Gordon Ramsay is silly. Jamie Oliver has never claimed to be the world's greatest chef or that he makes the best such and such. His recipes while not authentic are accessible to his audience who generally have never been in an Asian grocery store. Oliver has done his best to lobby governments over food issues, not something that will line his own pockets.
Having lived in Asia for most of my life, I still have no fucking clue what chilli jam is or what it tastes like. Also Nigel needs to not tell the world that all fried rice contains garlic.
To be honest, people dont hate it when chefs try to do fusion. it is when they went overboard with it and still calls it by that name. like what the thai chef said to Gordon. Pad Thai needs to be sweet sour and savoury. If you are changing the profile of the dish then dont call it Pad Thai. Similar to what Jamie is doing to Japanese Ramen. It is call RAMEN not soba! Oh and no mushy tofu in fried rice too…… you want tofu in fried rice at least deep fry the tofu into tiny cubes. you want mushy rice you make porridge instead. not fried rice.
You know what’s cheaper than sugary drinks? Literal water. H2O. For all of his faults (and for all the accurate roasts on his fried rice and green curry), his war on shit food isn’t a negative on his record.
Using his celebrity status to push legislation down the throats of the public is not ok. There is a difference between promoting healthier food and forcing people to eat healthier food.
Really? Now kids are consuming massive amounts of artificial sweeteners which literally damages the brain, one in 7 kids now has brain damage m, add, adhd, odd, autism depression,ranging up to Parkinson’s etc he didn’t actually know enough to speak up about it
@@Ghastly1 There is nothing wrong with forcing people to eat healthier foods either. It works and it benefits society on a grand scale. It's way easier to not want to eat sugar when it's unavailable/too expensive in the first place. And what's the actual negative here? They feel bad for a second then go and buy actual food that tastes better, is cheaper, and satiates them more?
@@Ghastly1 You mean fighting for actual changes and not just making self righteous speeches from the bed? what is he supposed to do? make a blog post saying "hey guys this food bad!" and hope it makes a change of heart in some big head in power while he goes with his day?
2:37 This is the BIGGEST issue. Why? Because I switched to Pepsi as it was nicer than Coke. Its didn't have the syrup after taste. However, a year or so ago Pepsi started to taste funny. Then, to my horror, I discover, regular Pepsi now has no sugar (what's fucking diet Pepsi for then?) and they've replaced the sugar with shitty sweetener. It now tastes awful so gone back to Coke.
The idea of cultural appropriation is problematic and unnecessary. Given the backlash, it's clear that Jaimie could benefit from some PR guidance to manage perceptions. The obesity crisis in the UK and US is worsening, and the outcry over removing junk food from schools highlights how deep-rooted the addiction to processed food is.
the issue is in how he sells himself. he trys to sell "authentic" food, but its not authentic or even similar to the original dish, instead of helping the obesity crisis he made food both worse in quality and more expensive causing worse diets for the poor and working class. he was addressing the ends but never the means
@@deadpan2866 The poor and working class in Britain never had good diets. Pie, chips, no seasoning - yeah, I'm generalising. However, it's miles better than turkey twisters and smiley faces; I NEVER forget they used to serve us pink, soggy fried chicken on a Friday; it was abysmal. The issue is that government food contractors rip the state off, and dinner ladies aren't exactly highly-paid chefs.
I can say him selling a Jerk rice and calling that "Cultural appropriation" is a bit much. And hell, given how hands off it was made to seem with his stuff, it might have just been on a list of products they wanted to bring out he signed off on, not even knowing until it became controversial. HOWEVER, to make a Jerk Rice and not include a SINGLE DAMN THING that makes it jerk rice? That deserves a paddling.
As a chef myself, I’m all for revising cultural dishes. Everyone has their own tastes, and anyone working in a restaurant knows just how many orders come through with customers revisions. HOWEVER, a lot of these ‘internet chefs’ fail include the key phrase of ‘my version’. Go ahead, make a cultural dish your way, but don’t mislead people into thinking it’s the ‘right way’. Honestly, when you go to other Countries you will find most cultural dishes have many different versions and there is rarely a singular ‘right way’ to make them. Listen, all I’m saying is that you shouldn’t hate a chef for putting their own flair into a dish or revising some ingredients. We all have our own way to cook. Jamie Oliver’s failure mostly came down to his attitude and shameless promotions. Also, I will admit, he did overestimate his own cooking abilities.
A major oversight in this video is that Nigel Ng actually got a cease and desist letter from Jamie’s lawyers following his first video. They probably thought that Nigel - a budding / small-time RUclipsr at the time - would budge, but that was a big mistake. Instead of Jamie doing a collab like so many had done (sparking an actual friendship between Nigel and Gordon), the letter triggered Nigel to do the opposite and double down on taunting Jamie and his legal tram, seeing how far he could push it before they could sue him for defamation. That would give him free advertising, similar to how he provoked China (and arguably Laos) into banning him and milking that. He has turned up the heat since, especially because as a RUclipsr with a respectable fanbase, he can afford to. He has offered Jamie in several videos to bury the hatchet and do a collab for his 10M subscriber special. In the end, Jamie has his lawyers to thank for this ordeal, though the decision to stay quiet and hope it’ll burn out eventually is about as counterproductive as when they had taken the bait and sued Nigel. Jamie’s best choice right now is to bite the apple and coordinate a well-produced video in which he shows not to take himself too seriously, getting heckled by Uncle Roger, issuing a formal apology for his chili jam trespasses, while also promoting the viewers - specifically the British audience - his vision on why good, healthy and fresh food is so important.
Jamie actually could use the beef to his advantage to keep him relevant. But he chose to keep mum about it. Either he does not care and wish to end his career on that note.
Definitely. I don't understand how he didn't engage. Well, maybe it's actually quite clear. Looking at what Oliver's talent is, it's actually quite weird why he isn't way bigger on social and still works for only for TV. He's the type of guy that should go independent. But then again, Channel 4 probably pay him quite well and there is very little risk in that...
@@djoetma I guess because everyone who meets him know he's not a good person? He might have done something significant sometimes, but most of the time he went places just to destroy local/traditional cuisines and still act like a master for it. He better just stick to what he's truly good at.
@MollyHJohns Can you name me some examples? Also, my comment probably was a bit easy since tv people make way more money than internet people with some exceptions here and there and it's a steady income with way less risk and Oliver is obviously rich as hell anyway.
Long story short chef of 20 years here. Worked everything from like McDonald's all the way up to Michelin star restaurants. I know for a fact that Jamie Oliver is literally one of the worst chefs on the f****** planet. Period. Won't say which restaurant of his I worked at but I will tell you not only is he useless he just takes everyone's ideas just like that chef Wolfgang.
9:07 "It sounded like a white guy with puka shells heard reggae music once and tried to make a song" while showing a photo of b4-4. Right in my 90s boy band-adoring adolescence. 😂 Well played, sir.
This idea of making a video as a satire of the sunnyv2 style content on youtube, acting serious and having lots of fx, is hilarious, and it's still a fun video! interesting
What's genuinely likable about Gordon Ramsay is that he knows when he doesn't know, despite his obvious skill. His best documentaries are when he's learning and taking us along for the ride. Sure, he's got massively rough edges which he admits stem from his own career path learning from Marco Pierre-White among others. His appearance on Hot Ones explains it well. This is also why he had a thick enough skin to take a roasting from Uncle Roger and subsequently actually get along. Jaime Oliver is his absolute opposite and this is why Ramsay's legacy will outlast his own.
And the problem with Jamie is money. Getting rid of two for one and the sugar tax was NEVER go to help poor families, it would just make them poorer. The best chef for families is Jack Monroe.
People who didn't experience the Great School Dinner Purge will never understand how much hate the ban on turkey twizzlers actually conjured up. A lot of people still genuinely bear a grudge against him for that (and for good reason, turkey twizzler day was like *the day* that kids looked forward to in school dinners. I still miss them. (Sad music plays)
He literally bankrupted Bernard Mathews the turkey meat company. Turkey was always the low fat high protein cheap meat for the working classes and his company was built on feeding millions since 1950. They had to sell off to an Indian company who is now slowly selling off the assets.
Gordon's experience speaks for itself. He trained under some of the most talented chefs in the world, has multiple Michelin Stars under his belt and actually makes an effort to learn about other culture's cuisine at the most authentic level. Jamie is just someone who got super popular selling cookbooks to moms in UK of all places lmao
I watched some of Gordon's travel videos and if you ask me, he has one very simple rule. "Does the chef that owns or runs the kitchen he is standing in right now have the expertise and reputation that makes said kitchen great/well-loved? If yes, shut up, obey the chef, and learn from them." Doesn't matter if it's a celebrity kitchen, home kitchen, or even soup kitchen, That's a very strict rule Gordon uses and I respect him for it.
it's like i never in my life actually seen someone actually crush up tofu and make it in a sauce lol and then uses sesame oil in pad thai and then not actually use oil for the thing that needs oil
To be fair, my country's school lunches are equal in quality to prison food, Italians are way too protective of their post-Columbus "ancient" culinary traditions, and sugar is killing all of us.
But is there a noticeable improvement in quality? Every other country in the world balances protein, carbs, fats and fibre in their school meals, except the US and UK. Check out the lunches from other countries and compare and see if there really is a good change in nutritional quality when Jamie Oliver came in. An incremental change, like replacing chips with wedges, is not enough.
You got to repect Gordon's dedication for his craft. This man puts in all. I may not agree with how agressive he is sometimes, bit he gives alot of tough love when he sees potential, because he actually cares. He is the type to give 200%, but what i like about him tye most is that he doesn't back off or get defensive in the face of critisism. This man knows this is how he learns and is willing even now. Seems like fame didn't get ti his head and has same complete dedication. I admire his passion, is rare to see that especually when you reach a certain level
The ones about sugar and pizza are pretty valid. If people cant afford healthy food you don't blame the one who try to stop unhealthy food, you put your blame on the government
In primary school years ago we went on some sort of trip to visit Jamie Oliver and he wasn't even there and then we had to make our own pizzas using only healthy things for Jamie Oliver and it was the most awful tasting I can remember ever having.
Uncle Roger made history by exposing TV cooks ... Jamie is not a chef he is a TV cook. People like Jamie and Rachel Ray are just celebrity home cooks who look relatable and feel relatable because of their "home styled" cooking ways where everything doesnt have to be authentic or true to recipe and that's why their skit posing as a pro chef work so well as a TV brand
Tbh, I don't know why people get so worked up if ingredients are altered and are not as original as possible. I'm from an asian household and my mom cooked with whatever she had available. Many dishes nowadays are not as supposed to be but they are called like it anyways: pizza, sushi, etc...
It's not really people making it at home, but it's more people spreading misinformation. When I make ramen with soba noodles and call it ramen, a number of people will be confused and will not know the difference between the two dishes, it's perfectly fine to experiment but it's not good to spread that misinformation is all
I like that Gordon actually has a sense of humour and is willing to learn from his mistake and seems to have fun interacting with Roger
It's one of the things alot of people I think over-look with Gordon Ramsey. He's an asshole on TV because it's part of his persona now, especially in US tv, that said he's just passionate about food. Even with the Pad Thai he asks "Okay, I fucked it up, show me!", he's not above critique and wanting to learn to honor the food's roots he is making. I forget which of his shows but someone states "I want to make one of your dishes", a dessert Gordon points out typically takes *HOURS* to make and he does it in 45 minutes but changing it ever so slightly.
Gordon walks up, tries it, without saying a fucking word goes back to his seat and then returns and essentially without saying it outright stresses that he's impressed as hell and the look on his face before his return is like "Well fuck me, he outdid me at one of my own desserts in a 1/3rd the time". He's rude, a bit crude at time but so was his mentor.
Nothing is worse than people who can’t take a joke. Quite a few of the people he has made vids on have then made vids with him or have at least had a laugh in the comments to show they are cool with it. Jamie must have been aware of it all but never said anything giving an indication he’s a bit salty about it all.
Gordon is cool, Jamie Oliver is kind of a dick, but his Italian recipes aren’t bad
I like Gordon, too, but not for consistency. Ask him about taking money for promotions. There's a one word answer: HexClad.
Gordon has blamed his producer any time I've seen him criticized. Pretty bad look for someone who has tried to always have a reputation as a leader not a follower.
"If he wanted to hurt Russia, he should've kept the restaurants open."
Ouch!
Wasn't even directed at me, and that felt like a gut punch. JESUS UNCLE ROGER, HES ALREADY DEAD!
Jeezz Uncle Roger give him a break 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I felt that in my SOUL
Imagine Oliver offering the Russians a master class in "proper" Asian cuisine and encouraging them to spread their "knowledge" to their neighbors in the east. China would disown them so hard they'd fall right off the map.
Bro Russia would have another revolution 💀
I don't see where Uncle Roger really did much to destroy Jamie Oliver's reputation. It seems like Jamie Oliver did 99.9% of the damage on his own.
I think by mostly exposing it to more people
I didn't know about Jamie Oliver Until i saw Uncle Roger
If i saw it from another medium i would have though that maybe he was good...
Yeah, Uncle Roger isn't the murderer, he's the coroner.
Yep, if you are a professional chef and are intent on making videos to show others how to make a dish, you should probably make it how its supposed to be made. If you want to substitute something, at least explain why you are using the substitution and what you should be using if you want a more authentic dish.
You're right on about that. Anybody who tried to cook anything Jamie presented would realize that with the first bite
Yup. No Asian has that kind of power.
one other thing i dont hear people talking about is that Jamie Oliver is also hated in brazil for saying that Brigadeiro (a chocolate creamy fudge covered in sprinkles that is known as the brazilian signature dessert) tastes like shit in the face of a brazilian chef
small hint to everyone, never shit on a country signature meal, specially if its a place with as much prideful people as Brazil
A BRIGADEIRO??? who could hate a creamy, fudgy chocolate ball covered in sprinkles?? that's like, literal unicorn poop, and i mean that in a good way.
That "yeayah" mf has officially take it too far.
i’ve never had that but it sounds so lovely! the fact that jamie could say that to such a dessert is psychotic. the man must have a miserable life.
STOOOP THAT LITERALLY SOUNDS SO YUMMY HOW COULD HE SAY ITS BAD
Lol tell that to the french, they've been taking the piss out of UK food for generations
this video being edited like a crime documentary makes this even more hilarious
"The uncle who killed a TV chef's"
I was looking for this comment.
Rice crimes.
Fax
The idea of Ramsey and Roger bonding over Oliver bitching is hilarious.
Agreed
I remember at one point Gordon called Oliver a "one pot wonder".
One can do no wrong, the other can learn from his wrongs. That's the difference between them.
@@rustyhowe3907 ok thats funny
@@macran4 It still makes me laugh.
I saw the Uncle Roger Hot Ones video, and one of the prompts was for Uncle Roger to give Jamie Oliver a heartfelt apology. Yea, he immediately ate the wing without any hesitation.
While keeping full eye contact with the camera. My man sent a message
W uncle roger
Jamie Oliver visited my hometown area when he went to try to "fix" the school lunches there. In truth, he came off as arrogant and bashed the lunch ladies and nutritionists instead of the government workers who dictate the mandatory requirements to said lunch ladies and schools.
He's a clueless hack who doesn't have an ounce of cooking skills in his body. I think i respect the average RUclipsr foodie that genuinely tries even if they fail, more, than this absolute trashdump of a disaster. Honestly, every time he makes food... i'm repulsed. And i used to room with a dude who came back from benders back in Uni and he'd make some fucking disgusting looking dishes in the morning to "wake" "up". Probably tasted better than JO food too.
I don't blame him. They allow it. Why do you think this happens? Because people are too cowardly to stand up for what's right. How can you do that when children are involved? "I was afraid of losing my job" isn't an excuse. The cafeteria staff and nutritionists share the blame.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rtAh yes Eylene aged 53 and a Lunch lady is really going to make a change across the country by saying food isnt healthy 😂 Get your head out if your ass.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rtwtf is wrong with you.
Go then. Be the force of change. Enjoy getting fired and replaced instantly for not following the rules.
Seriously. “Why didn’t you go against the people who pay you at your minimum wage job” is the most brain dead take I’ve ever seen.
Get off the internet, you’ve got a terminal case of internet induced incompetence.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rttells me youve never had to struggle and/or you have no sense of empathy
What i like about Gordon is that while he gets criticised, he loves to learn about others ways of cooking especially if they are masters at that style/dish so he rarely lashes out. His persona may be angry but in a lot of the docu series' he's willing to change and learn from those better.
Plus him and Uncle Roger getting along (they don't have to be like the best of friends) works out well for fans of both. I grew up watching Gordon before I knew about Uncle Roger. So again, best of both worlds
Which is what he expects from those on his shows. A lot of the chefs there act like they know everything there is to know about cooking when it's very clear that they don't. A lot of them are extremely arrogant and Gordon doesn't like that so he yells at them to take them down a few notches. Whether or not it works in the long term, I dunno, but that's how he is. In fact, people compare his behaviour with a adults to his behaviour with children and there's a huge difference simply because he knows these little ones don't have all the knowledge, therefore he makes sure to be a literal teacher and help them whenever they mess up and praise them whenever they do good so that they can slowly feel confident with their abilities yet hopefully not get bigheaded about it. Gordon's a good lad and he tries to do the best he can with his abilities and is always willing to know more instead of acting like he himself knows everything.
He tries to learn and research the traditional dish before making his own version.
Jamie seems like he reads a wiki article and picks up whatever substitutes he thinks are ok on a 10 minute grocery run.
Gordon is actually a chill dude, those angry moments he have are only for tv shows kinda like a skit of some sorts to make the tv more entertaining
In his documentaries where he's been traveling around the world to learn from the cultures and people who actually are part of those cultures, he's pretty humble and is willing to learn if he made mistakes, he actually listens to the people who are experts on their culture
His asian cooking shows that he knows he isn't a master of everything and still wants to learn more
“No, I didn’t make Jamie Oliver by ruining his reputation. He made himself ruining his reputation. That was his choice, to ruining his reputation.”
The wisdom of Gordon Ramsey's master. The stock pot conoisseur, Chef Marco Pierre White
@hectornecromancer5308 The Darth Plagueis of the Culinary world
Jamie is lucky he never met the guy.
Or maybe opposite of that, maybe Marco would’ve made him proper chef
That was my favorite episode of the F word for Gordon. That chef's deadass stare followed by "that's not pad thai".
"I don't think it's too bad!"
Chef: "For you..."
😂😂😂
Honestly, pad Thai designed to be easy to do right, so I understand the disappointment
Jamie closes his restaurants and "can't afford to pay his employees severance" but can afford a grade 1 listed estate for upwards of 6 million dollars. Classy guy!
yes, he should take care of his family and ensure their future well being more than he should care about his employees -- if you disagree then feel free to start your own restaurant, diner or fast food place
@@firstname4337 If you're gonna start a restaurant then paying your employees should always be a part of the consideration. Want to only consider your family? Make it a one man show. The employees have families too, the time you involve other people into your money making process is the time that money isn't just yours to keep anymore.
@@firstname4337 I agree with the sentiment but he definitely should be taking good care of his employees regardless in my opinion.
@@firstname4337 I mean yeah this is totally the mindset of a selfish, horrible person. Having empathy and caring for the wellbeing of those who rely on you outside of your family means YOU and YOURS get less and you cant have that can you? Step on everyone else just as long as you "get the bag", right? lol
@@firstname4337 as a restruant owner myself i dissagree one must alway have a plan to pay staff and severence in case of closure like you said looking after your family staff have family to.
Jamie didn't need Uncle Roger's help to destroy his reputation he was doing that just fine all on his own
I wanted to say.. like.. I found Uncle Rogers mildly entertaining at first. But to say he did anything here, is just disingenous. Jamie Oliver keeps destroying his own reputation, piece by piece over the years.
I didnt think there was anything left years ago tbh.
bruh what did he do im out of the loop 😭
@@thebigmeat4173 Just generally being an asshole, especially the amount of times he takes a traditional dish from somewhere and tries to "improve" it. It comes off as pretentious, even more when the dish he makes obviously sucks.
@@thebigmeat4173 Jamie "destroyer" Oliver? As a complete outsider, he barges into places to try to reinvent or correct local and traditional dishes people have been doing for as long as humanity exists, and did them all wrong almost all the time.
@@thebigmeat4173 He set up a load of restaurant chains that are their own LLC's so when (not if) they go bankrupt he doesn't owe staff unpaid wages, frequently owe lease moneys and in general has gone around behaving like a twat.
He criticised Red Tractor for breeding meat heavy chickens (and in general), but ignored their core mission of affordable, sustainable agriculture.
He also did stunts for PETA (for them btw) like slaughtering a live lamb without stunning or anaesthetising the animal even.
You can go on and on.
A chef friend of mine once put serious thought into starting a RUclips channel where whenever Jamie Oliver puts up a video he would make the same dish done correctly to a professional standard. It would have been called ‘Oliver’s Correctional Officer.’
Wahahahaha! Go fer it!
your friend could also call it "the food police" to include other chefs who have bad dishes
Or 'Olivhis Mistakes."
i will be seated
He can just not say anything but put on JO's or other scammy chefs' thumbnail or mini clip during his correctional cooking sessions so we all can compare the authenticity of each chefs. Silent demonstration is cool af tbh.
"I don't want to take attention away from the staff." YOUR NAME IS ON THE RESTAURANT
Such a lame excuse of him
Flying to Asia would put him too close to actual spices.
@@merphul this!!!
its like the composer/conductor didn't want to come to his greatest opus debut because he doesnt want to take away the attention from the symphony's musicians
His disastrous attempt to make an Italian feast… in an Italian village… while they rip him up for doing it all wrong. Trying to “improve” their traditional dishes. Wow.
That's Jamie Oliver in general, he even does that with British dishes. Usually be adding some pretentious ingredient that most people can't afford.
I mean Italians are too prideful anyways. The claim they’re garlic masters or some shit but they aren’t even close to being the country that consumes the most garlic. South Korea is actually number 1 in garlic consumption.
@@jclive2860I thought China was the #1 garlic consumer?
@@Austin-5098 my bad, as a whole China consumes the most. However per capita South Korea consumes more.
Same thing happened to Gordon Ramsay in Thailand. But that's fine I guess because a stupid comedian didn't tell you to hate him.
Jamie has become a meme for Uncle Roger at this point.
He was a meme when I was a child. He ruined school meals
@@Fatso97How did he ruin school meals? They're low quality processed crap that won't adequately nourish a developing child's brain so that they can learn. That was one of the actual positive things he tried to accomplish but didn't stand a chance due to all the subsidies and cost cutting of the US government.
Yay! -Jamie Oliver
@@IloveElsaofArendelle*YeeeeAH!
Jamie Oliver's reputation was pretty bad before Uncle Roger.
Agreed, and Uncle Roger certainly didn't help lol
Yeh, this was a lot of piggie backing for clicks, but not adding much or any new information or slant to the story.
@@croneycousteau
As it should
In the US yes, that's because he wanted healthy food for the kids and criticised American junk food - the British, and with that the whole of Europe and Australia kept loving him, he's the best thing on this god's earth since Noah's Arch
@@ricklee5845 I'm from Scandinavia and as of my knowledge no one in Europe has ever loved him.
It's not really that hard to make a star as long as he or she has a personality. With the right team you can make ANYONE seem as they are loved by everyone.
Hitler? Putin? Dictators, sure, but I can name others as well. It was to make a point.
Uncle Roger doesn't ruin him. He ruins himself, but it was quieter because no one who actually knows about the food saw what Jamie Oliver had done to their food.
Something Jamie Oliver seems to not understand but Gordon does is that cooking is a lifelong learning process, you don’t just stop midway through and immediately start thinking that yours is the best and only way to
Cooking is an art, after all.
Unless you're French, or Italian, or apparently Asian at all. Then if you dont do it just so with just the "right" ingredients, you're a cultural appropriating reprobate.
I find oliver arrogant and smug
@cyberleaderandy1 Food Insecurity especially
@@cyberleaderandy1 Honestly I never thought of Jamie Oliver that way at all. I just saw him as another TV chef, and sometimes his recipes are good, and sometimes they're meh or just weird, just like most Tv chefs. I'm not sure if I get what you mean when calling him arrogant. But then again I had no idea he actually had a problem with is reputation so what do I know.
I wouldn't say it's fair to pin all of this credit/blame on Uncle Roger. Uncle Roger is just one of the more entertaining voices merely shining the light on what Jamie has already been doing on his own merit, that most of us were already aware of.
Honestly, I wouldn't know that Jamie Oliver does THAT much cultural appropriation in his recipes. He literally mixed up something into goo and called it "Thai green curry" while it's not even a GREEN GOO. And I thanked Uncle Roger for exposing this vandal of traditional foods towards MUCH MUCH more people, especially those that their very culture are being butchered by Jamie Oliver.
Even if Jamie Oliver is already an evil existence for traditional food, I, and many others, thank Uncle Roger for exposing this rich little vandal to us. For us, without Uncle Roger, we 100% won't know about how horrible of a culture appropriator is Jamie Oliver.
To be fair it is called 'how he helped ruin JO's rep'. Not pinning the full blame.
Folding Ideas video was the reason I started to dislike this guy Jamie I hadn't heard from before, long before I knew of Uncle Roger (well, not long, but saying before twice without any separation was odd)
@@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133that is incredibly stupid. You can’t culturally appropriate fucking food 😂😂😂
i never heard of jamie oliver, uncle roger is the guy who introduce me to jamie. Im asian, the content that i watch is mostly not in the west
Narrator: "Another unknown commenter"
Unknown commenter: *gordon ramsey with a check mark*
Yes that was the joke
Yeah…. Do you normally not understand very obvious jokes and sarcasm and feel the need to point it out and try and make the person look dumb and in doing so, show how extremely dense you are? Ironic.
@@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet IDK mate, this whole video sounds like it was written by AI, but who knows.
@@sparrowtail561 you don't know what ai texts look like then
honestly its easy to see why uncle Roger and Gordon Ramsey have become such good friends, they both put on an act for entertainment but still truly care about the food and giving people an experience they'll remember positively or getting others into cooking. both recreational and professional
“Another online commenter” *is Gordon Ramsay* hhahhahahhahahhaa
greg
Freaking Sherlock right here
@@smasher420greg
To be fair: people really do consume WAY too much sugar because companies put an absurd amount of it in their products
Even a spoilt clock is right twice a day. He does so much shit, he has to at least get one thing right.
It's called freedom..... you don't have to drink or eat sugar rich food or drinks....
@@WhatDemocracy defending excessive sugar to cause addiction isn't freedom. You just like corporations more than ur countrymen.
@@lastsong7159 nope.... it's just freedom, and you don't like it 🤷🤦
He had a fair point, but he wants to change to much in too less time. That's why greeen parties are not likeable. They have valid points.
As an Asian I cried when I saw Jamie’s Egg fried rice, I’m not joking I almost teared up.
(I’m not a egg fry rice lover but it’s still a war crime to use chili jam)
Also adding water to fried rice,
Explain why it's a 'war crime'. Don't just say you don't do it. Explain what the fuck is supposed to be SO bad about chilli jam in fried rice.
Honestly cannot fucking stand the completely fake and exaggerated hysteria over this shit. The amount of fucking ingredients in Asian cooking for a start, and you got people pearl clutching over fucking CHILLI. What THE FUCK is wrong with you???
@@Nefariousbig
Says the one pearl clutching over people not liking how Jamie excessively modifies recipes. Am I just supposed to mindlessly accept that the man thinks people should by putting sweet spreads in a dish meant to be savory and salty?
Chili jam on fried rice sounds pretty good, actually.
@@thegoodgeneral
Trust me, it isn’t. Tried it on a friend’s suggestion, and
Imagine slathering already cooked beef and rice in chili jam and eating that. It’s gross for me.
The way the lady drained the rice isnt wrong. For any average person working with anything other than sticky rice, this is actually how you cook it. Just cause that's the only way he knows how to cook a specific kind of rice, doesn't mean it's correct. I would know, I'm Indian, and making basmati rice compared to sticky rice is completely different.
As a half Japanese half Spaniard I feel double offended at his cooking. His paella was just as criminal.
Yeah... Jamies ramen pissed me off. If I had the money, I'd take him to like, Hakata (the rich broth is great) or Gion (duck ramen tho)
A few things; the sugar tax has increased obesity, and had a drastic impact on type 1 diabetics because of the lucozade recipe change to turn it from a glucose drink to a caffeine based energy drink, and the changes that Jamie Oliver advocated for, have resulted in a drastic increase in poverty and people starving to death.
It's a poor people tax primarily.
I don't like the guy either, but it's not like cheap high sugar softdrinks are needed to survive when you are poor.
Saying people starve because of him is giving him to much credit.
@@peterpan4038 They actually are though, they're cheap calories that hold off starvation. When a bottle of drink is 198 calories, that's 198 more calories to not die of starvation.
But he also got rid of meal deals and buy on get one free offers on cheap food.
The sugary drinks thing has a bigger impact on type 1 diabetics though. They used to use lucozade in hospital to treat insulin crashes in type 1 diabetics, but now can't, and now there are none available in the UK that aren't filled with artificial sweeteners.
It's also worth noting that artificial sweeteners, and stevia, have been proven to cause multiple types of cancers, and a surprising amount of people are intolerant to them and get extremely sick from ingesting them, much like myself
@@raven4442 None of this makes ANY sense, as long as all of us are able to buy literal pallets full of cheap refined sugar at each and every grocery store.
That and there are more ways to eat or drink high sugar stuff than soft drinks.
Pack a Snickers, a bottle of apple juice, a banana, or if you are really desperate for cheap sugary drinks for health emergency reasons: fill a bottle with home made sugar water.
Heck, most type 2 diabetics have that particular illness BECAUSE they ate/ drank to much cheap sugar for years.
Saying type 1 diabetics desperately need a particular brand of sweet soft drink is silly at best, and a bona fida strawman at worst.
@@peterpan4038 7-30-24
It's not that the Apple Juice, Banana, or Snickers is worse, it's just when you are experiencing a crash where the body is producing too much insulin and needs a quick sugar boost, you need simple sugar that can easily go to taking care of the crash. Soft Drinks WITH SUGAR, can stop a sugar crash much quicker because it's more readily available and doesn't require much digestion to get the sugar out of the food and into your bloodstream. And it's cheap, readily available (you don't need to PLAN by making sugar water in advance or packing a Snickers.), and tastes good. Sugar Water is just sweet.
Fun fact, Lucozade was originally called "Glucozade", like Glucose, the simple sugar. It's a sports drink. It had 62 grams of sugar per every 500 ml container. Now, it just has 22.5 grams.
Learn more here about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucozade
@@michaelschlem2849 And i have to stop you after "It's not that the Apple Juice, Banana, or Snickers is worse".
Because if it's not worse, it's not worse.
And as i already said:
If you really need to be cheap to the max, a bottle of literal sugar water is the cheapest possible option.
Hence i'm asking you:
If the situation is THAT bad, is it really to much to ask to carry something sweet like some candy, or as i proposed a bottle of sugar water with you at all times?
I mean a bottle of Lucozade won't just magically fall out of the sky either, you have to buy it and potentially carry it with you too.
But keep up your silly Lucozade strawman, by pretending it's higher sugar variant was the only readily available and cheap way to get some much needed sugar.
Heck, even the new version with less sugar goes well past the 15/15 rule.
You know, the rule for what do do in case of hypoglycemia, quote:
"If a person living with type 1 diabetes or type 2 diabetes notices symptoms of low blood sugar, they can take steps to help raise their blood glucose levels to an acceptable range.
According to the American Diabetes Association (ADA), a person should check blood glucose levels first.
If the levels are less than 70 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dl), consume a sugary snack or drink containing 15 grams (g) of carbohydrates, then recheck blood sugar levels after about 15 minutes. This is known as the 15-15 rule.
If the levels are still low, repeat the process and consume another sugary food or drink. Once the levels have returned to normal, a person can return to their regular meal and snack schedule."
=> Hypoglycemia can certainly kill someone, but it's not a fast process, you have plenty of time to get your blood sugar levels up again.
A buddy of mine with type 1 diabetes carries a bag of gummy bears with him at all times for this very reason, and last time i checked he was still very much alive and kicking.
Imagine Jamie going through his villain arc because of this
He’s been the villain from the beginning
He had a hero arc?
Nah,too late and too lame....
he is too arrogant to accept change and redeemed his mistakes really.
He IS the villain.
The worst part is Jamie could have fixed and repaired all of his infamy if he actually collaborated with Uncle Roger or gone for the Uncle title. Uncle Roger just started making videos for fun,but now it escalated to the point where it came on his reputation…Jamie must have probably taken these videos personally,that’s what I think.
you cant fix your reputation when you're shit as a chef and he knows it
He can't even cook and cooking is a basic skill in life 😂
Uncle Roger is not that well known outside RUclips. He is not as credible as you think he is.
@@Redxminder nah I wouldn’t call him shit. See here’s the thing, he’s not that bad…some his Italian and British recipes are good…he’s basically like an experienced home cook level chef who got famous.
@@justsomeemperorofrome34 he can cook,just not anything outside of Italian and British right.
Rumor has Jaime Oliver isn’t even a chef, he was apparently a catering company waiter that a TV exec had a crush on
Turns out the casting couch isn't just aimed at women 😂
He started under the giant, Antonio Carluccio. One of the greatest Italian chefs and a master of his craft. Jamie was a pastry chef and is a dickhead, but still. He earnt his whites from a master.
He did train under a real chef but he hasn't had any other culinary training.
The sugar tax ruined Lucozade. It was the perfect hypo stop for me. Being a diabetic I need a decent drink to raise my sugar quickly if it drops. Lucozade did this perfectly, and kept it up so it wouldn't start dropping again. They halved the sugar content, and replaced it with sweeteners. Now it doesn't work as good. In fact nearly all non-diet drinks now do this. They bulk up the sweetness with sweeteners. So now we all drink more chemicals. Only Coca-Cola is still full sugar. Thanks a lot, Jamie.
Yep, ruined Pepsi ribina too. I can’t believe he was responsible for that!! What a f k g t*** that artificial sweetener is soooo bad for the brain, no wonder people have memory issues and brain diseases
Thank god for Coca-Cola! 😅
Pepsi tastes now like the knock offs used to taste.
@@TheUltimateBastich yep Pepsi should have just paid the tax!! It tastes awful now
The thing is that these sweeteners are more harmfull than the sugar... its like you only can fill your joint half with marijiuhana, the other half has to be cocaine...
When Uncle Roger says "Fuyoooh!" you have done it right.
Watch out for the "Haaiyaaaaaahhh...", though.
I mean I get hating on Jamie’s cooking, it’s not that special. But hating him for wanting better food for kids and stopping companies from getting us addicted to sugar is crazy
Jamie's Italian in Australia definitely was affected, the last one here closed in 2023 owing $1 million, I never knew anyone who attended, mostly because we have a lot of great Italian restaurants already that don't serve overpriced pretentious slop, he slapped his name on them and ignored Australia completely
As someone who worked in one of his venues, i ran away from the industry for a year after 2.5months in the flagship restaurant... I was incredibly happy hearing the news
You need to tell us more than that.
Was Jamie around there? Did he treat his employees well? Why did you run away from the biz?
Gordon took the Pad Thai comments on the chin and with a stiff upper lip. He didn't question it other than "I didn't think it was too bad" because for him, he put his all in. He also knows that he's not a master of Pad Thai like the other chef and, at least from what I saw, didn't pull the "I'm a famous chef so I know what I'm doing" card.
In the presence of other veteran chefs, Gordon's usually a lot more humble than his TV persona suggests. Good on him for not letting his reputation go to his head and still being keen to learn.
The sauce for pad thai has only 3 ingredients: palm sugar, tamarind sauce, fish sauce. From the video he used too much white sugar (not exactly wrong but in the video they already had palm sugar for him). Maybe he used the standard according to his taste, which he might think is good for him, but definitely not according to the Thai chef.
Meanwhile I just cook by throwing random ingredients on the pan and hoping for the best.
Works most of the time
Cooking is fun when you don't have people yelling at you about how you didn't do it right.
As long as I'm not hungry at the end of the day, I don't see the problem.
Definitely. Stir fry, or soup or porridge can put in anything edible and still be delicious and nutritious at the same time. You just got to know your personal diet requirements and you'll be fine.
Link: 🎵Hm Hmm Hm Hmmm🎵
Just listening to your ancestors for the amount and occasionally tasting while cooking
My grandmother, my aunt and myself collectively screeched when we saw Jamie Oliver add water to his fried rice. Three generations of Asians with different views of life finally agreeing on something - we collectively think it's crazy.
Weird to think the initial video could have been an olive branch to repair his public image that he refused to take and just dug the already big hole deeper.
The Thai chef's face at 5:59 is one for the ages.
That was fantastic!
And I wonder why Jamie doesn't have Michelin star.
Tbh, even Michellin star is a joke, it's a silly thing invented by french people
It's a silly thing invented by a tire company, a TIRE COMPANY
No one in my country has Michelin star and I stil rather eating their food instead of some michelin restaurants
The Michelin star was originally made to rate restaurants that have good food with great price for people travelling on road trips.
Now it's more about taste, technique, and presentation of the food AND service.
Nowadays for good food with great price Michelin made the Bib Gourmand mark so look for those instead.
Don't think he's ever wanted a Michelin star. People comparing him to Gordon Ramsay is silly. Jamie Oliver has never claimed to be the world's greatest chef or that he makes the best such and such. His recipes while not authentic are accessible to his audience who generally have never been in an Asian grocery store. Oliver has done his best to lobby governments over food issues, not something that will line his own pockets.
Having lived in Asia for most of my life, I still have no fucking clue what chilli jam is or what it tastes like. Also Nigel needs to not tell the world that all fried rice contains garlic.
To be honest, people dont hate it when chefs try to do fusion. it is when they went overboard with it and still calls it by that name. like what the thai chef said to Gordon. Pad Thai needs to be sweet sour and savoury. If you are changing the profile of the dish then dont call it Pad Thai. Similar to what Jamie is doing to Japanese Ramen. It is call RAMEN not soba!
Oh and no mushy tofu in fried rice too…… you want tofu in fried rice at least deep fry the tofu into tiny cubes. you want mushy rice you make porridge instead. not fried rice.
Sounds like Oliver destroyed his own career lol.
He has earned so much money he doesn't care
You know what’s cheaper than sugary drinks? Literal water. H2O. For all of his faults (and for all the accurate roasts on his fried rice and green curry), his war on shit food isn’t a negative on his record.
Using his celebrity status to push legislation down the throats of the public is not ok. There is a difference between promoting healthier food and forcing people to eat healthier food.
@@Ghastly1 look at tobacco use in the US. tax works and people canstill choose to consume it. analogous here
Really? Now kids are consuming massive amounts of artificial sweeteners which literally damages the brain, one in 7 kids now has brain damage m, add, adhd, odd, autism depression,ranging up to Parkinson’s etc he didn’t actually know enough to speak up about it
@@Ghastly1 There is nothing wrong with forcing people to eat healthier foods either. It works and it benefits society on a grand scale. It's way easier to not want to eat sugar when it's unavailable/too expensive in the first place. And what's the actual negative here? They feel bad for a second then go and buy actual food that tastes better, is cheaper, and satiates them more?
@@Ghastly1 You mean fighting for actual changes and not just making self righteous speeches from the bed? what is he supposed to do? make a blog post saying "hey guys this food bad!" and hope it makes a change of heart in some big head in power while he goes with his day?
"The enemy of my enemy is my Friend" - WW2 saying
You know you're bad when two people are against you.
I'm pretty sure that saying predates WW2 by centuries
2:37 This is the BIGGEST issue. Why? Because I switched to Pepsi as it was nicer than Coke. Its didn't have the syrup after taste. However, a year or so ago Pepsi started to taste funny. Then, to my horror, I discover, regular Pepsi now has no sugar (what's fucking diet Pepsi for then?) and they've replaced the sugar with shitty sweetener. It now tastes awful so gone back to Coke.
As a Malaysian, no one can touch Uncle Roger
I mean, with Gordon Ramsay, you just have to see under WHOM he learned this Profession. that says it all.
Well Jamie I think also learned from the same teacher, but the difference is the teacher trusted Ramsay enough to be his sous chef.
@@kuronoch.1441 Jamie Oilver never worked for MPW.
Uncle roger didn’t ruin him, if he’s a failure (apply Steven He voice here) he’ll fail no matter what.
True, he's born a failure. He can't even cook which is a basic skill you need to learn in life
I heard it in Steven's voice before I read the "apply Steven he voice."
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Jamie Oliver cooks like a 1980s divorced dad.
DAMN
Goddamn that's such a creative one XD
Don't associate him with 1980s divorced dads, their meals are way more tasty than Chili Jamie Olive Oil
Jamie was failing before Uncle Roger was out of school
Being an Asian who cooks and eats rice everyday, Uncle Roger was spot on with all his criticisms though masked as jokes
I remember being like 6 and going to Jamie's Italian and violently throwing up right there in my spaghetti.
The idea of cultural appropriation is problematic and unnecessary. Given the backlash, it's clear that Jaimie could benefit from some PR guidance to manage perceptions. The obesity crisis in the UK and US is worsening, and the outcry over removing junk food from schools highlights how deep-rooted the addiction to processed food is.
the issue is in how he sells himself. he trys to sell "authentic" food, but its not authentic or even similar to the original dish, instead of helping the obesity crisis he made food both worse in quality and more expensive causing worse diets for the poor and working class. he was addressing the ends but never the means
@@deadpan2866 The poor and working class in Britain never had good diets. Pie, chips, no seasoning - yeah, I'm generalising. However, it's miles better than turkey twisters and smiley faces; I NEVER forget they used to serve us pink, soggy fried chicken on a Friday; it was abysmal. The issue is that government food contractors rip the state off, and dinner ladies aren't exactly highly-paid chefs.
I can say him selling a Jerk rice and calling that "Cultural appropriation" is a bit much. And hell, given how hands off it was made to seem with his stuff, it might have just been on a list of products they wanted to bring out he signed off on, not even knowing until it became controversial. HOWEVER, to make a Jerk Rice and not include a SINGLE DAMN THING that makes it jerk rice? That deserves a paddling.
@@NEEDbaconAlso his attemps at Thai Curry. Dear lord, it looked more like a prison stew than a curry.
@@NEEDbaconNo such thing as Jerk Rice. Thus cultural appropriation
As a chef myself, I’m all for revising cultural dishes. Everyone has their own tastes, and anyone working in a restaurant knows just how many orders come through with customers revisions. HOWEVER, a lot of these ‘internet chefs’ fail include the key phrase of ‘my version’. Go ahead, make a cultural dish your way, but don’t mislead people into thinking it’s the ‘right way’. Honestly, when you go to other Countries you will find most cultural dishes have many different versions and there is rarely a singular ‘right way’ to make them. Listen, all I’m saying is that you shouldn’t hate a chef for putting their own flair into a dish or revising some ingredients. We all have our own way to cook. Jamie Oliver’s failure mostly came down to his attitude and shameless promotions. Also, I will admit, he did overestimate his own cooking abilities.
A major oversight in this video is that Nigel Ng actually got a cease and desist letter from Jamie’s lawyers following his first video. They probably thought that Nigel - a budding / small-time RUclipsr at the time - would budge, but that was a big mistake. Instead of Jamie doing a collab like so many had done (sparking an actual friendship between Nigel and Gordon), the letter triggered Nigel to do the opposite and double down on taunting Jamie and his legal tram, seeing how far he could push it before they could sue him for defamation. That would give him free advertising, similar to how he provoked China (and arguably Laos) into banning him and milking that.
He has turned up the heat since, especially because as a RUclipsr with a respectable fanbase, he can afford to. He has offered Jamie in several videos to bury the hatchet and do a collab for his 10M subscriber special. In the end, Jamie has his lawyers to thank for this ordeal, though the decision to stay quiet and hope it’ll burn out eventually is about as counterproductive as when they had taken the bait and sued Nigel.
Jamie’s best choice right now is to bite the apple and coordinate a well-produced video in which he shows not to take himself too seriously, getting heckled by Uncle Roger, issuing a formal apology for his chili jam trespasses, while also promoting the viewers - specifically the British audience - his vision on why good, healthy and fresh food is so important.
My own mother dropped the old 'Jamie looks like he likes it when his finger breaks through the toilet paper.' I died when she said that. Lmfao
Jamie actually could use the beef to his advantage to keep him relevant. But he chose to keep mum about it. Either he does not care and wish to end his career on that note.
Definitely. I don't understand how he didn't engage. Well, maybe it's actually quite clear. Looking at what Oliver's talent is, it's actually quite weird why he isn't way bigger on social and still works for only for TV. He's the type of guy that should go independent. But then again, Channel 4 probably pay him quite well and there is very little risk in that...
@@djoetma I guess because everyone who meets him know he's not a good person? He might have done something significant sometimes, but most of the time he went places just to destroy local/traditional cuisines and still act like a master for it. He better just stick to what he's truly good at.
@MollyHJohns Can you name me some examples?
Also, my comment probably was a bit easy since tv people make way more money than internet people with some exceptions here and there and it's a steady income with way less risk and Oliver is obviously rich as hell anyway.
Long story short chef of 20 years here. Worked everything from like McDonald's all the way up to Michelin star restaurants. I know for a fact that Jamie Oliver is literally one of the worst chefs on the f****** planet. Period.
Won't say which restaurant of his I worked at but I will tell you not only is he useless he just takes everyone's ideas just like that chef Wolfgang.
anyone who has tried a Jamie Oliver recipe knows he is full of it.
A slight correction I'd make is that Turkey Twizzlers weren't banned exactly. They were taken off the market thanks to negative press.
9:07 "It sounded like a white guy with puka shells heard reggae music once and tried to make a song" while showing a photo of b4-4.
Right in my 90s boy band-adoring adolescence. 😂 Well played, sir.
This idea of making a video as a satire of the sunnyv2 style content on youtube, acting serious and having lots of fx, is hilarious, and it's still a fun video! interesting
did he put olive oil in his fried rice?
Yes and chilli jam
What's genuinely likable about Gordon Ramsay is that he knows when he doesn't know, despite his obvious skill.
His best documentaries are when he's learning and taking us along for the ride.
Sure, he's got massively rough edges which he admits stem from his own career path learning from Marco Pierre-White among others. His appearance on Hot Ones explains it well.
This is also why he had a thick enough skin to take a roasting from Uncle Roger and subsequently actually get along.
Jaime Oliver is his absolute opposite and this is why Ramsay's legacy will outlast his own.
That face at 6:07 is terrifying
I had heard of the Uncle Roger/Jamie Oliver beef, but I didn't know it ran this long and this deep. Incredible
I cant stand Jamie olive oil
"dont be like Jamie Oliver"
-Uncle Roger, 20xx
And the problem with Jamie is money. Getting rid of two for one and the sugar tax was NEVER go to help poor families, it would just make them poorer. The best chef for families is Jack Monroe.
People who didn't experience the Great School Dinner Purge will never understand how much hate the ban on turkey twizzlers actually conjured up. A lot of people still genuinely bear a grudge against him for that (and for good reason, turkey twizzler day was like *the day* that kids looked forward to in school dinners. I still miss them. (Sad music plays)
He literally bankrupted Bernard Mathews the turkey meat company. Turkey was always the low fat high protein cheap meat for the working classes and his company was built on feeding millions since 1950. They had to sell off to an Indian company who is now slowly selling off the assets.
3:57 getting cooked 😂
Gordon's experience speaks for itself. He trained under some of the most talented chefs in the world, has multiple Michelin Stars under his belt and actually makes an effort to learn about other culture's cuisine at the most authentic level.
Jamie is just someone who got super popular selling cookbooks to moms in UK of all places lmao
5:35 "Thailandan" you mean thai??😂😂😂
I watched some of Gordon's travel videos and if you ask me, he has one very simple rule.
"Does the chef that owns or runs the kitchen he is standing in right now have the expertise and reputation that makes said kitchen great/well-loved? If yes, shut up, obey the chef, and learn from them."
Doesn't matter if it's a celebrity kitchen, home kitchen, or even soup kitchen, That's a very strict rule Gordon uses and I respect him for it.
not to mention the "green thai curry" video, which had it's name changed to "jamie's green curry" after the flaming from uncle rodger
it's like i never in my life actually seen someone actually crush up tofu and make it in a sauce lol and then uses sesame oil in pad thai and then not actually use oil for the thing that needs oil
and again, i fell for the bait title, after a lot of years watching youtube i thought that i learned the lesson, but here i am hahaha
To be fair, my country's school lunches are equal in quality to prison food, Italians are way too protective of their post-Columbus "ancient" culinary traditions, and sugar is killing all of us.
But is there a noticeable improvement in quality? Every other country in the world balances protein, carbs, fats and fibre in their school meals, except the US and UK.
Check out the lunches from other countries and compare and see if there really is a good change in nutritional quality when Jamie Oliver came in. An incremental change, like replacing chips with wedges, is not enough.
You got to repect Gordon's dedication for his craft. This man puts in all. I may not agree with how agressive he is sometimes, bit he gives alot of tough love when he sees potential, because he actually cares. He is the type to give 200%, but what i like about him tye most is that he doesn't back off or get defensive in the face of critisism. This man knows this is how he learns and is willing even now. Seems like fame didn't get ti his head and has same complete dedication. I admire his passion, is rare to see that especually when you reach a certain level
Back with another banger. Yes brother ❤
The ones about sugar and pizza are pretty valid. If people cant afford healthy food you don't blame the one who try to stop unhealthy food, you put your blame on the government
Menopausal woman here…don’t lump me into the Jamie Oliver love camp 🤮 I’m a Matty Matheson kinda chick 😂
coincidentally im watching this on July 8th the 4th anniversary of the BBC’s roasting fried rice video
I remember uncle roger choose to eat "da bomb hot sauce chicken wings" rather than apology to jamie 😂
"oh no.... That face" 😆
1:40
Dude that’s so true !!!
The only reason I know Jamie Oliver is because an old woman high school teacher told me about him😂
i know jamie oliver from uncle roger
4:50 I'm just laughing so hard my stomach is hurting about this guy's pronunciation of Chorizo.
using soba noodles for ramen aww hell nah that should be a crime lol
Gordon had a sense of humor, and he also showed he was willing to learn. Big difference.
Those american kids understood the nutritional value of grinded chicken bones. Calcium 😋 😂
He didn't respond because he didn't want to take any attention away from uncle Roger.
id pay good money to hear jamie oliver make a diss track on uncle frank ngl
In primary school years ago we went on some sort of trip to visit Jamie Oliver and he wasn't even there and then we had to make our own pizzas using only healthy things for Jamie Oliver and it was the most awful tasting I can remember ever having.
Uncle Roger made history by exposing TV cooks ... Jamie is not a chef he is a TV cook. People like Jamie and Rachel Ray are just celebrity home cooks who look relatable and feel relatable because of their "home styled" cooking ways where everything doesnt have to be authentic or true to recipe and that's why their skit posing as a pro chef work so well as a TV brand
Tbh, I don't know why people get so worked up if ingredients are altered and are not as original as possible. I'm from an asian household and my mom cooked with whatever she had available. Many dishes nowadays are not as supposed to be but they are called like it anyways: pizza, sushi, etc...
It's not really people making it at home, but it's more people spreading misinformation. When I make ramen with soba noodles and call it ramen, a number of people will be confused and will not know the difference between the two dishes, it's perfectly fine to experiment but it's not good to spread that misinformation is all
Him not bothering to respond is what Asians usually faced in the UK