Just expressing an opinion here. The thumbnail kinda sticks out compared to your other vids, I mistook it for another channel for a second. I feel like the aesthetic of your channel has been effortlessly clean and minimal. The pose and the thumbnail feel a little too forced and unnatural. Don't let me or comments like mine keep you from mixing things up and enjoying what you do though, just felt like pointing it out. As always appreciate the content and how well it is presented.
Most of the time latency is so low it doesnt matter. Your human reactions will matter more. Unless you are spamming and trying to get the first hit in something like Minecraft or something.
@@carlogaytan7010 it's not just minecraft, low click latency benefits every form of eye/hand coordination regardless of the game mechanichs. I'd actually argue that it mainly matters for flicks since it requires a more precise click timing.
I just got this mouse. The shape in INSANE for me, I love the finger grooves and extremely low front. It really grips your fingers in place so that your can barely grip the mouse and still have precision. The only thing what will sway me away form this is a wireless version of this, or maybe an XM1 (2?) Mini Wireless.
This mouse converted me from pure fingertip to more of a claw grip. It's weight is slightly too front heavy for a pure fingertip but like it was designed for, if you have some slight contact on the rear of the mouse the weight works out great. The shape is also so nice and it just makes you feel confident. A lot of that is the comfort grooves. Like you, if this was wireless, it would be something else! This, the UL2 and superlight are in my current rotation. I have tried a lot of the current mice too
@Thomas Schulz flat fingertip grip would work but when you curl your fingers more aggressively, it doesn't have the same good feel, as something like a starlight 12. The hump on the rear of the MZ1 suits a flat fingertip and the hump sits on your hand near your knuckles/palm
@Optimum Tech The camera shot at 8:13 was phenomenal with the transparent hands! I haven't seen any other tech reviewers use that and it was so helpful. Hopefully you'll integrate it into all your future mouse reviews!
Have really been loving your mouse reviews lately, very detailed and also helps that you actually game aswell. Also I love when reviews include latency testing, since that i svery important to me. Keep it up!
the second I took this mouse outta the box and put it in my hand I fell in love. everything was perfect, the shape, the weight, the clicks, the texture of the finish. I'll admit I didn't like the way the mouse looked in pictures but in a dark room with the RGB shining through the transluscent shell it looks amazing. the only way I could see this mouse being any better was if it is wireless and made out of that lightweight magnesium that the finalmouse is made out of. if you use fingertip or claw and don't have really big hands you will love this mouse.
That last sentence doesn't really isn't true. Plenty of people with medium to small hands have not liked it at all, especially ones who uses claw. It's been causing pain for many too. Still nice that it's good for you.
It would be great if you could compare mice with optical switches to regular ones in latency. One example would be the Roccat Burst Pro/Core which have their "Titan Optical Switches" which also feel/sound great imo. I think the results would be pretty interesting
i won't buy a mouse or keyboard that doesn't have a wire, so I appreciate that they left in this feature despite those that favor the current year argument
Switched from a Razer Viper Ultimate to this one and MYGOD the difference is HUGE. I love the way this mouse feels in my hand, as a fingertip user this is a dream to use. Any better than this is a wireless version with similar weight. Give it a try, you wont be disappointed if you have small\medium hand with fingertip hold. Very comfortable.
Picking up the wireless version of this mouse after having the wired version since release. The shape is amazing for my hybrid claw fingertip grip and no software is amazing as well.
Wire outdated? Not sure man, not for me. If you're into super light mice and don't want another peripheral to charge, the cable quality these days is so good too. I got on the ultralight mouse train last year and I've tried the mm710, glorious model 0-, pulsar xlite and just picked up the Mz1. Really enjoying it and will be my main for the foreseeable.
ive modded mine.. its below 50 grams now and that high bump is gone as well..much better now.. only downside now is sidebuttons are to high up and protrude to much..which makes your thumb movement tilt the mouse when it reach for the side button..
I'm one of them who just love smaller-flatter and low height and lightweight mice. It suits me better for fps. On the other side I hate heavier/back heavy/ mice with higher height/bigger size, wider grip. Overall I just completely agree with the ideas of R.J.N and I'm amazed to see him designing a mouse and so happy that smthing like that is even possible. I hope mice develop more and hope to see more people like R.J.N in action.
Im totaly opposit on the coating. I tend to have a bit dry hands, and the coating on the mouse is absolutly slippery for me. I find glossy coatings to feel the best and give optimum grip :)
all i want is a palm grip mouse but not like a hybrid palm grip i want the full-fat slap my hand down on that mouse and it just feels comfortable with ring and pink support are bonus
@@JR88 I’ve adapted to the smaller size now. The GPW was like holding a potato safe shape but too safe IMO. I threw this in a bunge and barley tell it’s wired. Would be even better with a paracord.
I'd love to try it out. I'm not a fan of palm grip and heavy mice. My main gripe with Xtrfy MZ1 is with the scroll wheel. From the video it looked to be pretty hard to press, but I might be wrong. I avoid mice with stiff scroll wheel clicks because I use the middle mouse button quite a lot.
This will be a deal breaker for you, mine in super stiff and I love hard clicks initially. I'm looking for a scroll wheel swap but the button also need to be swapped in this case.
I also experience the same feel from the scroll wheel. The cable is great but not excellent like the 3rd party cables that you mod in like what Optimum Tech said. I came from a Razer Viper 8Khz and did feel the latency difference. As for the grip I have 20x10 hands with a fingertip grip. The grip on this mouse I still haven't come to a conclusion, as I need a better mouse mat and chair that allows my arm to rest how I want it.
Is that the Zowie G TF-X you're using? I have the same pad and love it with my viper mini. I actually wrote off this mouse bc I prefer claw to fingertip but I might consider it now
I have one and like it, but its not wireless like I'd prefer for the cost. But also its not for my hand grip and causes some issues. Overall I enjoy using it for short to medium sessions. My wrist will hurt after medium to long sessions. I can't disable or re bind the two side buttons which get accidentally clicked occasionally especially in the web browser which sucks a lot.
is there any other mouses that are shaped like this or the pulsar x2v2 mini? im looking for something like it for fingertip grip but i dont know the name of the shape for the mouse
@Optimum Tech: Can you tell me what mousepad you used for the review? I have Razer Acari with Mz1 and when moving the mouse very very slow is skipping.
I absolutely adore this mouse, it is so amazing. About the scroll wheel, I’m pretty sure that’s quality control, because mine is perfect(although not as good as the switch quality). I keep it on my desk next to a wireless mouse(for work). Usually that’s an MX mouse.
Really struggling to pick between this and the model o wireless, it seems like I would probably prefer the wireless nature of the model o but something about this mouse has me intrigued. Looking to somewhat downgrade from my g903 which is starting to have some issues and I’d like a lighter mouse that doesn’t cost as much as the pro super light
Hey. I know it might be a weird request, but as you have a quite relaxed upload schedule wanted to ask if you could do a short maybe 3-4 Minute video about the MK120 Logitech Set specifically the m100 mouse. I tried quite a few more modern mice (superlight, razer stuff, g502, final, xm1) but for what ever reason, I still play with the mk120 set on a rtx3090 pc (lol: chall, cs: glob)... Might be good content :)
quick question for you, in this video you mentioned you can use the top button as f11. how can you disable f11 from taking valorant out of fullscreen. i just bought the mouse and love it, but i used the bind something to f11 feature and everytime i press it goes into windowed mode. makes the mouse feature unusable for me.
got it since it was available to buy in mwave. fit like a glove out of the box. the cord doesn't bother me that much coming from a wireless mouse. definitely buying the wireless version though when it comes out.
hey , i just found this video because im planing on getting the MZ1 myself and was wondering if the mouse has allot of pretravel and if it even has any
damn, i love this mouse. I am a 305 user but i just bought basilisk ult. Might get this in the future, since you recommend it so much. It does look pretty nice. And i'm a beast with my Logitech.. I hope they take your advice on improvements. If this becomes wireless, might be having to get it for fps games
Both are heavy mice. You should get a wireless model o-. That's a small mouse like the 305 but better shape and weight and design and software. That or the wireless version
OT, I know you don't play valorant as much but you really, REALLY need to do a video on your aim training. It's legitimately shocking how good you are with your shot.
@@dinkelmut590 I saw you comment bakc when you posted it but totally forgot to answer it. I'm gonna see what I can buy and if my local retailers have it or not. Thanks for the tip man, I appreciate it! btw, you were right, shipping is 7.99$ but the code you gave me saves 7.90$
I'm using the xm1r white, really like the shape and the back support, but unfortunately the high its too small for me. my hands size are 21-11. do you know any other claw bigger mice?
@@MesSiAh-jEw If you need more back support the MM710/711 is worth looking into, it is much wider in the middle and also the hump is the back is more pronounced.
in 2021 these big companies shud start thinking outside the box. if ur gona sell a wired mouse also include a mouse bungee as a package. consumers r now lookin into wireless mouse
As a G305/Orochi main user I'm looking forward to it so I ordered it since it as a nice deal in France. (€60 + Xtrfy Bungee as gift). That being said, how are the side buttons size/placement compared to the G305 and the Orochi? I use them quite a lot while aiming so it's important for me.
fresh side channel upload also if you're looking for more gaming content: ruclips.net/video/9MFDnPs9TNw/видео.html
Solid vid Ali. Keep up the good work!
wehre is your 4K 144hz LG monitor :o ?
Just expressing an opinion here. The thumbnail kinda sticks out compared to your other vids, I mistook it for another channel for a second. I feel like the aesthetic of your channel has been effortlessly clean and minimal. The pose and the thumbnail feel a little too forced and unnatural. Don't let me or comments like mine keep you from mixing things up and enjoying what you do though, just felt like pointing it out. As always appreciate the content and how well it is presented.
Review the kone pro air or the deluxe m800
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Every mouse video: Ali flexing his aim on us
I want to see him play minecraft pvp lol
@@RomulatorrrMinecraft pvp I's just spam no skill
@@RomulatorrrDopamine overdose pvp
@Optimum Tech keep it up with the latency testings, there's a lot of people who genuinely care about it, good review btw!
Will do!
Most of the time latency is so low it doesnt matter. Your human reactions will matter more. Unless you are spamming and trying to get the first hit in something like Minecraft or something.
@@carlogaytan7010 so i see you have played minecraft
@@carlogaytan7010 it's not just minecraft, low click latency benefits every form of eye/hand coordination regardless of the game mechanichs. I'd actually argue that it mainly matters for flicks since it requires a more precise click timing.
@@axaro1738 for hand eye, it's the sensor that matters. Other than that the latency of an average Logitech or Zowie is enough.
I just got this mouse. The shape in INSANE for me, I love the finger grooves and extremely low front. It really grips your fingers in place so that your can barely grip the mouse and still have precision. The only thing what will sway me away form this is a wireless version of this, or maybe an XM1 (2?) Mini Wireless.
100% agree I have a white one and wouldn't change it for the world
Your aim is so good man!
In built aimbot
Casual 90k in Gridshot is insane. Not pro gamer levels, but really, really good.
His brain has an aimbot installed.
practice
and top end equipment
but mostly practice
This mouse converted me from pure fingertip to more of a claw grip. It's weight is slightly too front heavy for a pure fingertip but like it was designed for, if you have some slight contact on the rear of the mouse the weight works out great. The shape is also so nice and it just makes you feel confident. A lot of that is the comfort grooves. Like you, if this was wireless, it would be something else! This, the UL2 and superlight are in my current rotation. I have tried a lot of the current mice too
so you shouldnt buy it for fingertip grip?
@Thomas Schulz flat fingertip grip would work but when you curl your fingers more aggressively, it doesn't have the same good feel, as something like a starlight 12. The hump on the rear of the MZ1 suits a flat fingertip and the hump sits on your hand near your knuckles/palm
@@scotty_teee4226 damn, what about the orochi v2? cuz starlight is expensixe
@Thomas Schulz I prefer that for fingertip, personally. Over the MZ1
@@scotty_teee4226 aight thx for the info
@Optimum Tech The camera shot at 8:13 was phenomenal with the transparent hands! I haven't seen any other tech reviewers use that and it was so helpful. Hopefully you'll integrate it into all your future mouse reviews!
those wingman shots tho. dammmm!!!
6:10...are we just not going to talk about this sick stick? You did that man dirty.
i only trust mouse reviews from people who are actually good at aiming, you and rjn are at the top of the list my friend
Would love to see a review of the wireless version.
this!
Have really been loving your mouse reviews lately, very detailed and also helps that you actually game aswell. Also I love when reviews include latency testing, since that i svery important to me. Keep it up!
"The weirdest mouse you should try"
My Wallet: "Don't your fricking dare"
My main rn. Absolutely love this thing
There a wireless version now I would like you to do a latency test
I have been waiting this for so long because I actually trust your reviews. Thanks keep it up.
Jeez, you make Valorant look so easy!
the second I took this mouse outta the box and put it in my hand I fell in love. everything was perfect, the shape, the weight, the clicks, the texture of the finish. I'll admit I didn't like the way the mouse looked in pictures but in a dark room with the RGB shining through the transluscent shell it looks amazing. the only way I could see this mouse being any better was if it is wireless and made out of that lightweight magnesium that the finalmouse is made out of.
if you use fingertip or claw and don't have really big hands you will love this mouse.
That last sentence doesn't really isn't true. Plenty of people with medium to small hands have not liked it at all, especially ones who uses claw. It's been causing pain for many too.
Still nice that it's good for you.
Looks interesting. I’m looking forward to see you review the Starlight-12 as well hopefully
It would be great if you could compare mice with optical switches to regular ones in latency. One example would be the Roccat Burst Pro/Core which have their "Titan Optical Switches" which also feel/sound great imo. I think the results would be pretty interesting
This mouse as wireless version, and with right side buttons too, one can dream
If Xtrfy ever release an MZ1 white edition, I'll buy instantly.
I cannot imagine staying up so late to release videos. Props to the immense amount of effort put into this channel.
Different timezones bro, haha
You can schedule uploads
i won't buy a mouse or keyboard that doesn't have a wire, so I appreciate that they left in this feature despite those that favor the current year argument
Man your shooting skills are so good! Whats you dpi and sense? :)
Can you review the wireless one which came out last month?
Good thing I ordered this days ago, as I see this being out of stock shortly
Switched from a Razer Viper Ultimate to this one and MYGOD the difference is HUGE. I love the way this mouse feels in my hand, as a fingertip user this is a dream to use. Any better than this is a wireless version with similar weight. Give it a try, you wont be disappointed if you have small\medium hand with fingertip hold. Very comfortable.
Just got the wired version free with a $30 mousepad. Look forward to trying it out
bro what is your DPI jesus christ. Also great video!
2:15 yoooo, holy crap, I see you, I see you
Picking up the wireless version of this mouse after having the wired version since release. The shape is amazing for my hybrid claw fingertip grip and no software is amazing as well.
looks like one of those robot toy cars I used to see when I went to the flea market as a kid
ikr
I hate everything about this mouse
and I thought Zy found someone to make a legitimately good mouse with
but he got bent
Ali continues to use these gaming mouse videos to completely flex on us with his aim.
Wire outdated? Not sure man, not for me. If you're into super light mice and don't want another peripheral to charge, the cable quality these days is so good too. I got on the ultralight mouse train last year and I've tried the mm710, glorious model 0-, pulsar xlite and just picked up the Mz1. Really enjoying it and will be my main for the foreseeable.
Man, your productions are so professional... I really wonder what your methodology looks like... Some day I'll be making as aesthetic videos as yours!
i wonder how much weight they would have saved if they got rid of all the LED's.
I'm a bit tired of all the aiming focused mouses. Is there any new multi button mouse like the Roccat Tyon?
Waiting for a wireless version of this 👀
did you get the wireless version? :)
ive modded mine.. its below 50 grams now and that high bump is gone as well..much better now.. only downside now is sidebuttons are to high up and protrude to much..which makes your thumb movement tilt the mouse when it reach for the side button..
I'm one of them who just love smaller-flatter and low height and lightweight mice. It suits me better for fps. On the other side I hate heavier/back heavy/ mice with higher height/bigger size, wider grip. Overall I just completely agree with the ideas of R.J.N and I'm amazed to see him designing a mouse and so happy that smthing like that is even possible. I hope mice develop more and hope to see more people like R.J.N in action.
Im totaly opposit on the coating. I tend to have a bit dry hands, and the coating on the mouse is absolutly slippery for me. I find glossy coatings to feel the best and give optimum grip :)
Weird to answer now but use some hand moisturising stuff I do it and works great
Thanks bro the latency results are really great bro.😀😟😃☺
Are you going to review the Starlight-12 mouse also?
Is that a Dan C4 at 4:02? 👀👀
Yes
Cant palm grip it? Am I stuck with my Logitech MX master?
Sick aim my dude, whats ur dpi and sens settings ? What screen do you use atm?
Good review I'm looking to pick one up as a possible replacement to my Glorious Model 0-
man... those headshots... Jeeezzz.. I feel sorry for your opponents.
Should've been PWM3370 the best Pixart sensor that's publically available, Pixart 3389 is very inefficient and old
True, that's why the 3370 is in a lot of wireless mice. Fairly certain the orochi V2 has it, the Xenics Titan Gx Wireless has it
all i want is a palm grip mouse but not like a hybrid palm grip i want the full-fat slap my hand down on that mouse and it just feels comfortable with ring and pink support are bonus
Keep up the fantastic uploads!! 👍😁❤️
1:04 Reyna became a pufferfish
I haven’t got my starlight in my hands yet but I’ve been maiming this mouse since release and it’s a game changer.
What was your main mouse before this?
@@JR88 GPro Superlight
@@KrispysRC really? Why did u go back to wired? I'm just curious if it's worth getting as I main superlight rn
@@JR88 I’ve adapted to the smaller size now. The GPW was like holding a potato safe shape but too safe IMO. I threw this in a bunge and barley tell it’s wired. Would be even better with a paracord.
I'd love to try it out. I'm not a fan of palm grip and heavy mice. My main gripe with Xtrfy MZ1 is with the scroll wheel. From the video it looked to be pretty hard to press, but I might be wrong. I avoid mice with stiff scroll wheel clicks because I use the middle mouse button quite a lot.
This will be a deal breaker for you, mine in super stiff and I love hard clicks initially.
I'm looking for a scroll wheel swap but the button also need to be swapped in this case.
those clicks are orgasmic, it's weird how people prefer linear switches on keyboards over clicky but they like clicky mice
I also experience the same feel from the scroll wheel. The cable is great but not excellent like the 3rd party cables that you mod in like what Optimum Tech said. I came from a Razer Viper 8Khz and did feel the latency difference. As for the grip I have 20x10 hands with a fingertip grip. The grip on this mouse I still haven't come to a conclusion, as I need a better mouse mat and chair that allows my arm to rest how I want it.
Is that the Zowie G TF-X you're using? I have the same pad and love it with my viper mini. I actually wrote off this mouse bc I prefer claw to fingertip but I might consider it now
I would make it a little shorter and less taller in the hump. But it is indeed an incredible shape and very "weird".
6:18 "MEDIA OFFLINE"
Do you have the click latency for MM710 with the fastest debounce setting?
I have one and like it, but its not wireless like I'd prefer for the cost. But also its not for my hand grip and causes some issues. Overall I enjoy using it for short to medium sessions. My wrist will hurt after medium to long sessions.
I can't disable or re bind the two side buttons which get accidentally clicked occasionally especially in the web browser which sucks a lot.
definitely getting this if available on my country
Did you try the Steelseries Prime mouse?
is there any other mouses that are shaped like this or the pulsar x2v2 mini? im looking for something like it for fingertip grip but i dont know the name of the shape for the mouse
I really do wish some mice made a compromise in weight to avoid only having versions with the holes.
That's what razer did
@Optimum Tech: Can you tell me what mousepad you used for the review? I have Razer Acari with Mz1 and when moving the mouse very very slow is skipping.
Nice C4-SFX teaser :*
I absolutely adore this mouse, it is so amazing. About the scroll wheel, I’m pretty sure that’s quality control, because mine is perfect(although not as good as the switch quality). I keep it on my desk next to a wireless mouse(for work). Usually that’s an MX mouse.
Really struggling to pick between this and the model o wireless, it seems like I would probably prefer the wireless nature of the model o but something about this mouse has me intrigued. Looking to somewhat downgrade from my g903 which is starting to have some issues and I’d like a lighter mouse that doesn’t cost as much as the pro super light
Where do Roccat mice...Kone Pure Owl Eye for example stand click latency wise?
Hey. I know it might be a weird request, but as you have a quite relaxed upload schedule wanted to ask if you could do a short maybe 3-4 Minute video about the MK120 Logitech Set specifically the m100 mouse. I tried quite a few more modern mice (superlight, razer stuff, g502, final, xm1) but for what ever reason, I still play with the mk120 set on a rtx3090 pc (lol: chall, cs: glob)...
Might be good content :)
does your copy have a little play on the right mouse button? I also noticed it’s not as tactile as the left.
quick question for you, in this video you mentioned you can use the top button as f11. how can you disable f11 from taking valorant out of fullscreen. i just bought the mouse and love it, but i used the bind something to f11 feature and everytime i press it goes into windowed mode. makes the mouse feature unusable for me.
got it since it was available to buy in mwave. fit like a glove out of the box. the cord doesn't bother me that much coming from a wireless mouse. definitely buying the wireless version though when it comes out.
So did you switch to wireless version yet?
Can you pick it up by lightly placing your thumb and pinky on the sides without needing to use gripping force?
hey , i just found this video because im planing on getting the MZ1 myself and was wondering if the mouse has allot of pretravel and if it even has any
I thought 6:18 was an easter egg and made it super slow, it just says Media Offline :/
Should I get this or the G-Pro ultralight? I'm mainning mm711 atm.
Since the Razer viper mini has the best results on your latency test will you ever review it?
damn, i love this mouse. I am a 305 user but i just bought basilisk ult. Might get this in the future, since you recommend it so much. It does look pretty nice. And i'm a beast with my Logitech.. I hope they take your advice on improvements. If this becomes wireless, might be having to get it for fps games
Both are heavy mice. You should get a wireless model o-. That's a small mouse like the 305 but better shape and weight and design and software. That or the wireless version
What mousepad do you use for valorant?
@Optimum Tech Are you going to review the finalmouse starlight 12
OT, I know you don't play valorant as much but you really, REALLY need to do a video on your aim training. It's legitimately shocking how good you are with your shot.
Can't get it for a reasonable price in France, let's hope I can get my hands on one soon. Looks insane!
I think GetGear ships to france, shipping is 8€ but you can use the code aurora10 for 10% off that will make it basically free shipping.
@@dinkelmut590 I saw you comment bakc when you posted it but totally forgot to answer it. I'm gonna see what I can buy and if my local retailers have it or not. Thanks for the tip man, I appreciate it!
btw, you were right, shipping is 7.99$ but the code you gave me saves 7.90$
Why'd you have to do that mirage like that? The arc star flick.
They need to make this wireless
Only experience I've had with Xtrfy is getting absolutely ASS BLASTED with ads for them while watching pro CS
Most pro cs players don't even use xtrfy, it's all G Pro, zowie, and vaxee
I bought this mouse, and it's not that weird that these reviewers claim to be! It actually is very comfortable and natural for your hand.
Try xm1r. Godlike mouse for claw
I'm using the xm1r white, really like the shape and the back support, but unfortunately the high its too small for me. my hands size are 21-11. do you know any other claw bigger mice?
@@MesSiAh-jEw If you need more back support the MM710/711 is worth looking into, it is much wider in the middle and also the hump is the back is more pronounced.
@@MesSiAh-jEw I don't think that there is bigger versions of that shape and quality. Bigger are palm ergos
in 2021 these big companies shud start thinking outside the box. if ur gona sell a wired mouse also include a mouse bungee as a package. consumers r now lookin into wireless mouse
One question, is the z1 and m42 using same tasters in build?
How does it feel when using claw grip?
Hi Optimum. What is your Apex sens and dpi?
Looking at ur gameplay and aim trainer, you're so cracked man.
Hey Ali, any chance we will see a review of the SteelSeries Prime Wireless? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!
its a shit mouse
As a G305/Orochi main user I'm looking forward to it so I ordered it since it as a nice deal in France. (€60 + Xtrfy Bungee as gift).
That being said, how are the side buttons size/placement compared to the G305 and the Orochi? I use them quite a lot while aiming so it's important for me.
how it's feel after one year?
@@Statiiixmm i tried it and hated it, maining ec3c-w atm
Is the click latency better than the Razer Viper Mini?
i remember i pre ordered the mouse before i left for bootcamp and then got it when i went back home and my final mouse :)
that mouse was designed by the best mouse reviewer Rocket Jump Ninja