this is exactly what i imagined after even mini mice i've tried still bump the palm under my thumb with their backside when i attempt to fingertip control the vertical axis, so big props to this company for actually creating a design appropriate for a particular use case
I think this is really cool. Now that the sensors in good gaming mice have peaked to the point where there is not much more you can improve on them - I think that reducing the weight is one of those few remaining things that can still bring a pretty noticeable improvement. Not everyone prefer ultralight mice, but I think it has pretty much been established by this point that from a pure performance standpoint it makes sense. It's kind of obvious that less mass will be easier to accelerate and decelerate fast - though you might need to get used to it. The second large impact thing though is wireless - and that is obviously missing here. I've been a proponent of cabled mice for a long time - but it's finally time to admit that good wireless has become just as good performance-wise. The lower the weight of the mouse the more you are going to feel the cable-drag (proportionally), and considering the cable for this thing probably weighs as much as the mouse it really ruins the whole point of reducing the weight as much as possible. TLDR: Needs wireless, some improvement to ergonomics and a premium coating. Maybe for like a "pro" version or something. Then I'd be genuinely interested :)
I've been watching videos on this channel for a few months now, and it's some of the best PC content I've watched on RUclips. It would be supercool to see an 'advice' video on how to enter the small form factor pc scene, seeing as how a lot of 'ITX-sized' components are more expensive than their mATX or ATX counterparts, and building a PC in a case like the Ghost S1, Dan A4 or even the Velka 3 or K39 can seem very daunting. So I think a video or two on just some advice on how to get into the whole SFF community would be awesome. Keep up the cool videos, Ali!
What answer do you even expect lol SFF is just a form factor The easiest way to build an SFF PC is either AliExpress cases or fractal design node 202, as they are widely available
@@smtnbad I would argue that the best entry level sff case is the Silverstone SG13. It's only 11.5 liters, $60 usd, and you can put an ATX power supply on it.
Honestly, I've been watching your videos since a very long time now ; I want to tell you, you have the best PC/tech content. And this video shows us again that you know what you're talking about. Thank you.
this is the exact thing i was looking for, i used a small mouse i bought for like 5-10 bucks when i was somewhere around the age of 11 and i had some insane spinbot aim, this is mostly because of the fact that you have way more control in your fingers if you’d thing about it its almost like pointing at your target instead of holding something into their direction.
What are your opinions on the P-ATX V2 case? I'm very impressed so far and want to retire my old components into a gaming HTPC build when I will be able to upgrade.
Looks neat. I'd give it a go if it had at least one thumb button. What I really wanna know is when will someone put out a mouse designed for three-finger users (middle finger on wheel). On all of the mice I've tried the mouse wheel is positioned so that you either need to arch your middle finger more than the others, or you have to click it with the inside of the last finger joint. Maybe I just have ungodly long fingers though.
Could you please make a step by step tutorial on how you made your custom loop in the t1? I want to build a water-cooled itx pc and don't know how to make the loop.
I like the idea at least, as a painter i can imagine it can give a better control to your fingertips, and maby the wrist/arm can rest on the table as a stablising factor. I would like to see more designs like this with quiet buttons, removable cable/battery and wify/bluetooth. Nice video
Man, I don't even like regular lightweight gaming mice, so I hope this doesn't push a new industry fad to compete on "our mouse is the best because it has the lowest weight" without any care for whether it's actually good for the end user. Weight in a mouse is good, up to a point. Empty hands shake, especially when holding still or making tiny movements. Holding a solid, hand-sized object will stabilise this. Ultimately, you don't want a mouse that feels like air, you want something heavy enough to resist any natural microtremors, and for that I much prefer traditional mice in the 120-150g range, which are becoming extremely rare these days since the current chic is "anything more than 100g is unsuitable for gaming".
Ali - I didn't realise your aim was actually pretty good - actually it's really good, damn! Dude you're the whole package! Handsome, great voice and amazing video edits. I am looking forward to you hitting 1 million subs soon bro, you deserve it.
@@halopolicja3887 it's funny when people trying to guess the size of my hand like i need bigger than g502 lol i ordered the roccat aimo hope it is a good one.
I tried the model o and didnt like it.. went back to the fk2 I cant use light weight mice they ruin my aim .. i found that the best weight is around 80 grams . Idk if its just me
For me I think you just have to get used to it I have the model o and I think the clicks are the biggest problem for me they feel loose and to deep compared to logitech clicks
With a small and light mouse like this, do you need a control mouse pad over a fast mouse pad? I feel like you'd need to make this slower with a slow pad but idk
to be honest, I do think that lighter is better for competitive FPS games, but there is a point of diminishing return by going very, very light. Kind of the same thing as for monitor, going from 60Hz to 144 is a huge jump, but going from 240 to 360 makes a much smaller diffrerence. For me personally, I had a G502 to play FPS back in the day, and I switched to a G403, going from 120+ grams to around 85/90 and MY aim definetly got better. It also got better when groing from wired to wireless and adapting my grip style from palm to claw (and going from a G403 to a G305 -no mods tho, it was around 96g) lately, I got myself an Aerox 3 Wireless (which is the perfect shape for me, I had a Rival 100 and loved the shape, this allow me to palm grip when I'm browsing the web and claw grip even fingertip it when I'm gaming) and though the weight reduction compared to the G305 was noticable (around 30g lighter), it didn't improme my aim by much. Even if I found a "full mouse" at only 37g I'm not sure that the benefits would be that good either
i have always been a fingertip gripper and i love the innovation in this mouse, still love my model o to death and might even get the wireless one when it releases.
the back part of the mouse helps with grips even with fingertip style grips. The back comes in contact with the palm and gives the grip more stability.
Without the wire it would feel even lighter because there would be no friction from the wire. I hope they make a wireless version. Issue would be battery weight. A tiny rechargable would be best. Usbc recharging in the front for wired use
Huzzah! A mouse for fingergrip folks! I don't FPS on PC, but I do code and I've always preferred high sensitivity fingertip mousing. Might have to grab one of these and give it a go.
I've tried model o, model d, razer deathadder v2, razer viper and I just can't stop going back to the endgame xm1. Honestly best mouse on the market. Was loving the viper then went back to the xm1 and beat my high score in aim trainer. My score that I already held with the xm1 lol. I can't get away from it.
@@yiepie9822 no question. I'm itching to try the rival 3 wireless or aerox 3 wireless as well as it seems to be a similar shape with the hump further back. Haven't been able to find stock in Canada yet though and steelseries charges $40 shipping.
This mouse reminds me of the original mad catz RAT 1 with the 3d printable palm rest and tiny mouse module. I only used the mouse module and it's about the same size or maybe smaller than this mouse. Really great for finger tip grip since it was very light and small.
i like heavier mouses. They just feel more 'rigid' when aiming... 80 to 90 is best for me... anything lighter is just unnecessary for me.👍😁 0:10 GREAT AIM MAN🤣
I like a heavier mouse for longshot sniping. my steelseries rival 9 allows me to adjust the weights with little metal weights i can add/remove. rn Ive been playing with out the weights till i get used to it. I'm thinking i might try one of these aiming apps to see which weight I prefer
I see the REAL point of this video was showing off your laser accuracy in Valorant ;)
His DPI is so low he has to throw his mouse but yeah, he has good accuracy.
He using an accuracy mod
Valorant takes no aim
low sens = better accuracy
@@rdmz135 no correlation
"Only 23 grams lighter" That is like 60% of its own weight
@@Bolasnegras *62.2%
@@Bolasnegras more than half of 34 which is how much the mouse in the video weighs
Nerds wow 👏
Youve heard of 60% keyboards, now get ready for, 60% mice!
*45.8757%
das cute
Ja, sehr schön.
@@odinsplaygrounds what
Odin's Playground geil😅
NO ONE PRESS DA LIKE BUTTON, ITS PERFECT
You have shamed the boy community
Can we take a minute to appreciate his esport level aim tho?
Gun gooo brrrrrrrrr
He always uses a smurf account lol
Thats what most of the comments are saying, how much appreciation does he need lmao
No. I'll take 2
He was a eSports player
Man your biceps look like you could handle a heavier mouse.
yeah man chad ali's been lifting, it really shows
He probably lifts SFF PCs in his spare time.
have been using g502 for 3 years, got bigger biceps
6 kilo heavy weight mouse
Hahaha
0:11 - That accuracy is just sic.
play osu, and then you'll be able to get something similar
@@Waypse the music game?
@@alienfunbug yes
@@mikokb gonna try it out! thanks!!
@@Waypse one of my friends is extremely good at osu, but he’s trash at shooters. It doesn’t translate well.
0:10 How much have you been practising this? Real impressive!
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
This mouse looks like the kinda mice you have in pre-school.
You've left multiple comments on this video, I dont think I've ever seen anyone get so triggered by a mouse haha
@@ArmchairChemist I'm not triggered, I'm just farming likes lol.
Look at this kid, he had computers in pre-school.
@@themightiness xd.
@@lekkastutorials farming likes for what? Do you get something from them?
this is exactly what i imagined after even mini mice i've tried still bump the palm under my thumb with their backside when i attempt to fingertip control the vertical axis, so big props to this company for actually creating a design appropriate for a particular use case
This mouse earned it's right to be called a 'mouse', it's tiny!
Yet cute!
that means we have been using rats for the whole time
@@alistergoh9744 lmao right.
@@alistergoh9744 you scare me
This mouse reminds me of a cheaper version of the Zaunkoenig M1k. It would be really interesting to see your review on the Zaunkoenig M1K.
Mhm
I have it and can say I’d prefer this shape instead due to the M1K having sharper edges instead of curved
I think this is really cool. Now that the sensors in good gaming mice have peaked to the point where there is not much more you can improve on them - I think that reducing the weight is one of those few remaining things that can still bring a pretty noticeable improvement. Not everyone prefer ultralight mice, but I think it has pretty much been established by this point that from a pure performance standpoint it makes sense. It's kind of obvious that less mass will be easier to accelerate and decelerate fast - though you might need to get used to it.
The second large impact thing though is wireless - and that is obviously missing here. I've been a proponent of cabled mice for a long time - but it's finally time to admit that good wireless has become just as good performance-wise. The lower the weight of the mouse the more you are going to feel the cable-drag (proportionally), and considering the cable for this thing probably weighs as much as the mouse it really ruins the whole point of reducing the weight as much as possible.
TLDR: Needs wireless, some improvement to ergonomics and a premium coating. Maybe for like a "pro" version or something. Then I'd be genuinely interested :)
I've been watching videos on this channel for a few months now, and it's some of the best PC content I've watched on RUclips. It would be supercool to see an 'advice' video on how to enter the small form factor pc scene, seeing as how a lot of 'ITX-sized' components are more expensive than their mATX or ATX counterparts, and building a PC in a case like the Ghost S1, Dan A4 or even the Velka 3 or K39 can seem very daunting. So I think a video or two on just some advice on how to get into the whole SFF community would be awesome. Keep up the cool videos, Ali!
1) have the money
2) have the will to spend it
3) profit, you entered sff community
Bruh
What answer do you even expect lol
SFF is just a form factor
The easiest way to build an SFF PC is either AliExpress cases or fractal design node 202, as they are widely available
@@smtnbad node 202 has terrible thermals. Looking to upgrade, might get a velka 7
@@smtnbad I would argue that the best entry level sff case is the Silverstone SG13. It's only 11.5 liters, $60 usd, and you can put an ATX power supply on it.
I'm more into rpg (with swords, bows, ..) than shooters, but man your accuracy is incredible. I would never be able to do that.
Honestly, I've been watching your videos since a very long time now ; I want to tell you, you have the best PC/tech content. And this video shows us again that you know what you're talking about.
Thank you.
Wow I’m early. So this is what staying up till 3 am on RUclips leads to
What do you mean its only 9pm
@@jackfrancis9298 different time zones, here on my country its 8 Am
@@jackfrancis9298 ...no?! It‘s 12:20 AM...
@@MaxxPlay99 12:21!
nah fam 25:50
0:10 meh small mou...... HOLY SNAPS!!!
play osu, and then you'll be easily able to do something similar
@@Waypse what's that?
@@sushimshah2896 Free rhythm game played with your mouse
@ yes, it's meant, but it's not mandatory and there are some impressive mice players
2d aim won't convert well to 3d aim. Don't waste time in that stupid weeb game.
holy moly! what's the brand of that mouse? i need it! for gaming
this is the exact thing i was looking for, i used a small mouse i bought for like 5-10 bucks when i was somewhere around the age of 11 and i had some insane spinbot aim, this is mostly because of the fact that you have way more control in your fingers if you’d thing about it its almost like pointing at your target instead of holding something into their direction.
so did you buy it?
Optimum Tech, please i need to know if this mouse is responsive like other mouses etc, i really want this mouse :)
it is
Finally, a mouse that fits in Linus’ hands!
Mate what sensitivity do you use for Valorant out of curiousity?
I just might pick up that mouse for my kids. For me, I still use and love my Logitech G3
No need to get them for your children
@@JC11_23 hm
If your kids are into games, watch how they grip the mouse (palm, fingertip or claw) and pick a mouse to suit their needs.
@@benitoswagolini3896 yes
What are your opinions on the P-ATX V2 case? I'm very impressed so far and want to retire my old components into a gaming HTPC build when I will be able to upgrade.
It is a great case, trust me ;)
that intro edit, Perfection :)
What song?
same question music name
So would u recommend the viper mini or the viper or something else
Optimum Tech: "oh it's SFF? I'll take your entire stock!"
I really want this, is it possible to buy yet or is it still unreleased
4:43
Man your hand is shackling, relax from these high score shooting things and chill a little
You had a really amazing frame in which you split the screen with a keyboard sitting on its' side and set two mice on either side. Really awesome!
This looks like the perfect mouse to give you arthritis.
you dont just 'get' arthritis, you are really dumb.
Learn 2 fingertip grip scrub
@@tjrafin9601 r/ihavereddit
@ the whoosh thing became a popular meme in 2020...
@@aidenCBR94 lmao, the fact that you calling me dumb for a lil YT comment.
Looks neat. I'd give it a go if it had at least one thumb button.
What I really wanna know is when will someone put out a mouse designed for three-finger users (middle finger on wheel). On all of the mice I've tried the mouse wheel is positioned so that you either need to arch your middle finger more than the others, or you have to click it with the inside of the last finger joint. Maybe I just have ungodly long fingers though.
They took "lightweight" too far.
why is this too far? If you don't use the back of a mouse whats the point in dragging it around?
How? The less weight the better. If a 5 gram gaming mouse somehow existed it would probably be the best mouse money can buy.
Noice stop getting triggered you're writing multiple comments
@@yiepie9822 lol, must farm the likes.
@@yiepie9822 also I am not getting triggered lmao.
Could you please make a step by step tutorial on how you made your custom loop in the t1? I want to build a water-cooled itx pc and don't know how to make the loop.
JUST. ADD. MORE. FRICKING. HEXAGONS.
I only like orange hexagons tho.
@@CaveyMoth tru.
I use fingertip grip and I've always wanted a mouse like this!
Finally tiny mouse for my tiny hands 😭
so nice to watch a tech review with someone who actually plays games, and really good too
We need more vertical mice.
I like the idea at least, as a painter i can imagine it can give a better control to your fingertips, and maby the wrist/arm can rest on the table as a stablising factor. I would like to see more designs like this with quiet buttons, removable cable/battery and wify/bluetooth. Nice video
Man, I don't even like regular lightweight gaming mice, so I hope this doesn't push a new industry fad to compete on "our mouse is the best because it has the lowest weight" without any care for whether it's actually good for the end user.
Weight in a mouse is good, up to a point. Empty hands shake, especially when holding still or making tiny movements. Holding a solid, hand-sized object will stabilise this. Ultimately, you don't want a mouse that feels like air, you want something heavy enough to resist any natural microtremors, and for that I much prefer traditional mice in the 120-150g range, which are becoming extremely rare these days since the current chic is "anything more than 100g is unsuitable for gaming".
If u are shaky u can lower your sensitivity. Lighter mouses are better because the momentum of the mouse is easier to control
Your videos are so entertaining I’ve been watching you for awhile now thanks for the entertainment :)
Ali - I didn't realise your aim was actually pretty good - actually it's really good, damn! Dude you're the whole package! Handsome, great voice and amazing video edits. I am looking forward to you hitting 1 million subs soon bro, you deserve it.
now kiss
can you do some big mice reviews for big hands? big and light vs big and heavy mice would be a nice video idea as well.
Watch rocketjumpninja
G502 ;D
@@halopolicja3887 it's funny when people trying to guess the size of my hand like i need bigger than g502 lol i ordered the roccat aimo hope it is a good one.
I love how people be commenting about it but its impossible for anyone to have seen the whole video yet
Optimum: Hey, can I copy your homework?
Glorious Model O: Sure, just change it up a little
Optimus starting out the video with that prime accuracy
Do you know when it's coming out? Seems tempting.
SMALLMOUSEｶﾜ(・∀・)ｲｲ!!
That's a great review Ali, good stuff! Using an O- here, loving it so far
On a side note - what are those beautiful minimal blank black/grey keycaps?
What microphone are you using while you are in the shot?
Your reflexes are insane.
Will you be doing a video on the Model O wireless when it is available?
Bro, what dpi and sense are u using, not to copy, just interested
Hey Ali, I remember you using G305 as your main gaming mouse. Have you changed it now to GPW? Especially on sweaty competitive games?
The point and click adventure community's laser-tag with tictac collision capsules will be so pleased.
Where can you buy it?
Please review the HSK Plus. Thank you.
I tried the model o and didnt like it.. went back to the fk2
I cant use light weight mice they ruin my aim .. i found that the best weight is around 80 grams . Idk if its just me
For me I think you just have to get used to it I have the model o and I think the clicks are the biggest problem for me they feel loose and to deep compared to logitech clicks
Model O is bad FK-esque clone
The music is awesome, did you make it? What's it called?
Where do I buy it? I can't think any amazon links.
With a small and light mouse like this, do you need a control mouse pad over a fast mouse pad? I feel like you'd need to make this slower with a slow pad but idk
to be honest, I do think that lighter is better for competitive FPS games, but there is a point of diminishing return by going very, very light.
Kind of the same thing as for monitor, going from 60Hz to 144 is a huge jump, but going from 240 to 360 makes a much smaller diffrerence.
For me personally, I had a G502 to play FPS back in the day, and I switched to a G403, going from 120+ grams to around 85/90 and MY aim definetly got better. It also got better when groing from wired to wireless and adapting my grip style from palm to claw (and going from a G403 to a G305 -no mods tho, it was around 96g)
lately, I got myself an Aerox 3 Wireless (which is the perfect shape for me, I had a Rival 100 and loved the shape, this allow me to palm grip when I'm browsing the web and claw grip even fingertip it when I'm gaming) and though the weight reduction compared to the G305 was noticable (around 30g lighter), it didn't improme my aim by much. Even if I found a "full mouse" at only 37g I'm not sure that the benefits would be that good either
i have always been a fingertip gripper and i love the innovation in this mouse, still love my model o to death and might even get the wireless one when it releases.
Did you do it?
4:16 That's for pointing that out.
The thinner is the mice the better fingertip comfort and mobility gets.
the back part of the mouse helps with grips even with fingertip style grips. The back comes in contact with the palm and gives the grip more stability.
Without the wire it would feel even lighter because there would be no friction from the wire. I hope they make a wireless version. Issue would be battery weight. A tiny rechargable would be best. Usbc recharging in the front for wired use
You need to do a Small form factor setup with this mouse, a 60% keyboard, 240hz Rog Strix XG17 (I think that's what its called) and an SFF PC.
Mindblown at that honestly, crazy to have the friction of your palm/wrist all on the mat. Strange but would love to try
Being watching your mini build videos for a while and I just want to show my respect to you as a highly skilled fps player.
Hi! I notice on others video I have the same headset as you, the hd58x jubilee. Would you share your dac/amp we can see on your desk please ?
What was the game on the beginning
0:10 Omg how is your gameplay so smooth! can some tell me how to get my recording to look that spectacular?
Hi, thnx for vid. Where can I train Aim?ty
Does it comes in teal green ?
Bor that thing is poggers where did you buy it fam
Despite this is a mouse showcase, can you check out thermalright axp100r? I wanna know your opinion on that cooler.
Hey man what is your max score on grid shot?
I'm surprised more gaming mice aren't this short but with like an extension for your palm, kinda like the Mad Catz R.A.T. 1
a mini model o for drag clicking?
Finally a tech youtuber whos good at video games.
Friend: Why you cant drag click your mouse is so long
My mouse:
mouse link?? i might consider getting it
Are you going to check out Cooler Master's MM720? It has a similar build style.
Tbh I hope they do this for their Skoll as well. So we have an Ergo variant.
Finally an SFF gaming mouse that proportionally fits most SFF cases. Now Add a portable monitor and the smallest standard kb layout.
Ali, please do check out Geeek N500 case if you can get your hands on it.
Huzzah! A mouse for fingergrip folks! I don't FPS on PC, but I do code and I've always preferred high sensitivity fingertip mousing. Might have to grab one of these and give it a go.
I've tried model o, model d, razer deathadder v2, razer viper and I just can't stop going back to the endgame xm1. Honestly best mouse on the market. Was loving the viper then went back to the xm1 and beat my high score in aim trainer. My score that I already held with the xm1 lol. I can't get away from it.
XM1 best Claw Mouse, best Stock Mouse, best Wired Mouse on the Market
@@yiepie9822 no question. I'm itching to try the rival 3 wireless or aerox 3 wireless as well as it seems to be a similar shape with the hump further back. Haven't been able to find stock in Canada yet though and steelseries charges $40 shipping.
I feel like the GMK Oblivion set would look really nice on your tofu
This man even reviews ITX gaming mice what’s not to love about this channel
I would recommend the razar viper and the meny both good for gaming
my mouse is a 4TECH which is available in my country only but its rlly cool cuz u can drag click easily, and design is very cool etc
what happened to the 4k LG monitor you were going to main?
This mouse reminds me of the original mad catz RAT 1 with the 3d printable palm rest and tiny mouse module. I only used the mouse module and it's about the same size or maybe smaller than this mouse. Really great for finger tip grip since it was very light and small.
i like heavier mouses. They just feel more 'rigid' when aiming... 80 to 90 is best for me... anything lighter is just unnecessary for me.👍😁 0:10 GREAT AIM MAN🤣
I like a heavier mouse for longshot sniping. my steelseries rival 9 allows me to adjust the weights with little metal weights i can add/remove. rn Ive been playing with out the weights till i get used to it. I'm thinking i might try one of these aiming apps to see which weight I prefer
What is your mouse pad?
Anyone know?
What rank are you in Valorant? Your aim is pretty solid