Gateway Church scrutinizes former pastor Robert Morris' account after sexual assault accusation
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Robert Morris' own accounts of his past are now in question. Church elders say Morris disclosed he had an extramarital affair, not that he had abused a 12-year-old.
In this guys “sermon” where he “admitted” his wrongdoings he precisely described the process of grooming a child. Identifying at risk children. Targeting them for abuse. Isolating the child from their support system. Threatening and coercing the child into not coming forward. And then, most sickening of all, he shifts the blame from his own predatory behavior to fathers who aren’t present in the lives of young girls. Highlighting what could happen to these girls if their fathers aren’t around to protect them from men like him. He actually used his disgusting and predatory behavior to reinforce an old and worn out trope that it isn’t really the fault of men like him, it’s the fault of fathers who aren’t around to protect their daughters from “men” like him. I’d like to say I’m shocked… But, we’ve seen this pattern play out so many times. Just look at the former head of the SBC who died last week. Mr. Pressler. Who had been doing this since the 70s. And was aided by others in the industry. And shielded from accountability by politicians and clergy after power and the almighty dollar. All for the low cost of the soul of a child. Disgusting.
And he blamed his wife for rejecting him.
Victim is a grandmother now...Morris is a grandfather...both parties need repentance..restitution..restoration......maybe both can start a ministry for human trafficking at the border...with Joe Biden
The sermon is called "Room 12 - Rebellious Roots. It's still available and very incriminating.
@@saintbees2088 omg. And his wife blamed the girl as "flirtatious"
@patriot4amer why does the victim need to repent?
Allowed to preach, making 6 figures, enjoying the fruits of life - no consequences, 2nd tier justice.
Extra marital affair is different from being a PDFILE
@@stjohnssoup the extra material affair he had was a with a 12 year old girl. Soooo….
How many religious men have turned out to be sex offenders. There needs to be more reporting when this happens
He should be on sex offenders list right?
The word religious should be in quotes!
@@johnsanders3859 God's word / wisdom is not being taught in this building 🤣🤣🤣 God laughs and scoffs at evil 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 me too 👺😇🙋
I was abused by a minister for many yrs. D Frank Hughes. He never repented to this day. And people think he is a god. Pathetic
He should not have been allowed to resign. He should have been thrown out.
Your so tough!
@@brianperrigo4851 *You’re
STOP with law firm…stop with PR firms…shut the doors close Gateway down
Why do you want the church shut down, they had nothing to do with it. Why would you want people that are getting fed the word of God to stop getting it? Sounds so evil to want that!
@@petefults5984 because if they failed to act, it is a crime scene and a criminal organization.
@@petefults5984 the church club members can get spiritual food for free without tithe money (extortion) online with say Chuck missler teachings all for free
@petefults5984 The church had nothing to do with! The head pastor was involved, and the rest of the pastoral team kept quiet about it! The congregation is too blame for willfully turning a blind eye to what their pastors are doing because you are too concerned with what adults are doing in the privacy of their bedrooms. You call gay people Pedophiles, yet your community has ruined the lives of over 3 million people and now you want us to call for individual responsibility? Did you judge Muslim people on a case by case basis or were all Muslim terrorists? Your chickens have come home to roost. May God have mercy on all of you. When God asks you why you defended this, " I didn't know" will not be an effective answer.
@@petefults5984How are you people so deluded. My God. She was a child and you are out here defending the church. Shame on you!
Son James needs to go as well as all senior leadership and elders. Not sure why anyone would continue attending here.
There's many reasons to keep attending church. The church loves God..
@@pburge2827 I sure wouldn’t!
Makes no sense to me unless they want the pastor's lifestyle.
@@lizh1988 that makes no sense. Why do you think those people should suffer for someone else's sin? For the ones that knew her age, they should be charged for not doing anything about it. Cindy stated only one preacher and one elder knew her age. But wanting to blame the innocent ones is beyond me.
Its like going to a massive night club. Sound system, lights, musical acts. You get dressed up. You might even see yourself on TV. I was young during the disco age. Its all kind of addictive.
Thanks to Robert morris we may see the downfall of the mega churches.
I’m surprised that they’ve lasted this long.
They've had the support of white supremacists @@dma124
Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.
@@dma124 Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!
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He needs to go to jail!
The older pastors having sexual and extramarital affairs. The younger pastors, although they’re not that much younger, in their mid to late 30’s are full of vanity and seek to make themselves more known than the God they are supposed to follow and serve. The church has lost its credibility and is no longer reverent to its own God.
Bad theology = bad morals. If you compromise on the Word of God you’ll compromise in your life.
Wow, your so off base
@@petefults5984 *You’re
What about the ones who turn out to be gay?!
@@chieftain5571 the majority of them…
He loved the money so much that he couldnt pay his victim
I too found it unsettling (and telling) that a man worth more than $120 million, wouldn’t pay for her previous counseling or her continued help.
He preached a lot of false stuff over the years, especially about money.
Pay for her counseling if you are so sorry
Elder Tom Lane knew the truth in 2005. Why didn't he tell the other Elders? Why was Robert Morris still allowed to be a pastor?
What amazes me is extorting a money tithe for decades is okay because people don't know their Bibles and the bible never speaks about a money tithe. This open sin (taking a non biblical money tithe) is similar to the jabs and boosts as being hailed as "safe and effective".
@@omega36001 Please explain "money tithe" vs. the biblical tithe?
His son should not be pastor at Gateway people need a separation from the whole Morris family to heal and rebuild
Agreed! From what I've heard GW is in the process of looking for a NEW Senior Executive Pastor. We'll see how well that goes. Because if they can't find onre, then they're rapidly headed for the trash heap of history. A very, very sad situation for all at GW.
@@bl954how do you know that?
There must be something mentally wrong with a man who finds a child sexually appealing.
I believe Pastor Morris repented if there are not any other cases.
Pastor Morris has grand children. What if a grown man went after your children/g kids. Pastor you would be horrified. This is how we feel.
I pray you have truly repented.
Who's to say he hasn't gone after the grand kids?!
Unfortunately this same abuse happens in small home churches also.
Every Day!
It can happen anywhere, that is why we are told to "test the spirit to see whether or not it is from God". Christians today are biblically ignorant, therefore may are unable to test accurately. They blindly follow a charasmatic person without reading the entire bible themselves and testing what they were told, or what was done. Jesus warned us about false prophets and teachers, and to be on guard against them. Christians today lack discernment, thus they are easy targets for the wiles of the devil. Bretheren, pick up your bible and read it all YOURSELF, and measure everything against what it says. Don't blindly follow a man, follow Jesus instead. Sit at the LORD's feet and learn from Him through His word, the entire council of God, both the Old and the New Testaments.
These things happen wherever human beings exist.
@@Jesusisthe1way God created us all in his image?
Ask Olen Griffing and the Elders of Shady Grove if they knew.
Especially since Olen is a former State Trooper and knew the law.
@@Skiis44he retired as an elder from Gateway? Yes? That name rings alarm bells. Silence Robison was absolved, at least for bring at that initial meeting of minds. I dont think Cindy wants, or is ready to name who was there. Hopefully the investigation and time will tell. The wife should have been charged along with RM. imo (aiding and abetting)
He confessed the sin.. May God vendicate you Robert Morris.. People acting like there is a big sin and small sin and they don't sin wow... And this was done many years ago and he confessed and asked for forgiveness.. May God have mercy on us
Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.
Thanks for posting this, it's a fruit among thorns 🙏
Too bad Robert Morris hates little girls so much.
His false preaching lead many to destruction.
She was a child and as a child in the 1980s times, attitudes, and culture around sexual abuse was VERY DIFFERENT. The law was not sympathetic or empathetic to victims. Females let alone males were treated indifferently or made it up and misinterpreted the predators intentions. The 80s were profoundly different. Blaming the family is NOT ok. Compounding w/ Christianity even worse. More ppl are affected. There are more kids affected by this hypocrisy.
I attended Gateway and tried before this all came out to get my husband to leave this church and attend another. My husband (at the time) refused, ultimately he chose another path, marrying his best friend’s sister. 🤔 I believe my persistence to leave Gateway was the stirring of the Holy Soirit in me. Reading God’s Word for myself allowed me to see truth and recognize deception.
She was not a young lady she was a child
Preteen.
@@Susanna1953PCexactly. A little girl is 10 or younger. 12 is preteen. She turned 13 couple weeks later
@@petefults5984 Stop promoting sin.
@@Susanna1953PC Stop defending sin. Preteen means basically nothing. She's was a little girl.
@@tako-je-sunny I'm not promoting anything. Stop lying!!!!!!!!
The mega church model is now done we just don't know it yet. It makes it too easy for the power hungry to get in control while good men are pushed out of the way.
There is no megachurch model. There are denominational megachurches who are very traditional, and Reformed megachurches like John MacArthur's, and Pentecostal/charismatic megachurches that are more mainstream, and then you have personality led megachurches like Elevation, Lakewood, and Gateway.
No chance, the snake oil will keep flowing. There was thunderous applause on Saturday for the crocodile tears of the Pastor speaking.
Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.
Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!
@@rick3514 YEAH....just keep that sick enabling dysfuntion going for more generations.
This is probably not the only one. There are many others of age and under age. The worst thing of all is that the wife probably knew! The wife always knows but had rather live in denial.
She knew all about it.
I haven't heard about anyone else coming forward.
He has sermons where he refers to "many".
@@tinifer site those sermons, please
@@4gma59 Nick Jones podcast. 12:27 "multiple, multiple affairs"....
Nick reviews a sermon where Roberts admits to seeking out young girls who were vulnerable. You can find the full sermon from there as well. Very damning.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
WHAT IS THERE TO INVESTIGATE, REALLY 😢
The private investigation by GW is just a fig leaf to allow many elders to get off easy😢
@@Howiefaam31459 false
Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.
Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!
@@rick3514 Amazing to me how some approach this. You do realize there was no born-again yet right? That woman was
completely lost, therefore, a child of satan. Mr. Morris has claimed Christianity throughout his several years of pedophilia,
then decades of manipulation and deception.
Sadly, you need understanding and discernment.
Jesus would not have taught us about wolves in sheep’s clothing if He did not
want us to recognize them. Mr. Morris is the exact representation of a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
The lack of discernment of so many is truly dangerous.
@@rick3514 Keep things in context, we are told to DISCERN things, and to test the spirit, so that we are not led astray by men like Morris. We are not to associate with them. His fruit exposes him to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Jesus said to know them by their fruit/deeds/actions. Listen to ALL that the bible teaches on any topic. Accurately handle and divide the word of truth. Teachers are also biblically held at a stricter accountability. Jesus was angry at the religious hypocrites. (Just sayin')
@@iDelta77 The bible does say that TEACHERS will be held at a stricter accountability.
Oh Lord Forgive Me, for I have been caught.
His handling of this, in the form of his communication with Debbie is chilling and sociopathic.
Pastor Morris, you are covered under1John 1:9
God is taking care of your case. People may come against you but our Heavenly Father is on your side as He was with king David in the past. You are in our prayers.
Amen
26 of the 27 New Testament books of the Bible deal with false preachers and false teachers. The Almighty doesn’t like false preachers.
He’s worth over 100 million Debbie knew he’s sick too. He’s son is a joke
I think his daughter knew he was sick also. She married a black man
Yes, Debbie is complicit in this too. She knew he was molesting a minor.
@@TheMagician2024 What does the daughter's husband's race have to do with anything?!?!?! 😠
@@jasongates- it says to me that she didn't want to marry a white man because she knew something wasn't right
@@jasongates- she didn't want a white man
Maybe his wife forgave him, maybe Robert repented and asked God to forgive him, we don’t know. God’s word says have mercy when you judge other, lest the same mercy be shown to you 3:00
Now move on to the scriptures in Titus and 1Timothy that tell us the qualifications of an elder. Stop picking scriptures that you like as if it’s a buffet. 🙄
@@lilit384 you might want to read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. If we take ministers’ actions 40 years ago, and remove them all, we’d likely have no ministers left.
Are there consequences to sin, yep, but God forgives AND CHANGES PEOPLE.
@@HisPresence2024 What does that scripture have to do with the scriptures I posted on the qualifications for an elder? You conveniently ignored them. And scripture tells us in James 3:1-12 that NOT MANY of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. So we shouldn’t have a bunch of teachers to begin with.
@@lilit384 qualifications for an elder - what/how a person IS, not what they did decades ago.
This is insanity. We will just have to agree to disagree.
Remember we will be judged by same standard as we judge.
@@HisPresence2024 He was a confessing Christian back then, traveling and preaching. What’s your explanation for a “Christian” who molested a 12 year old for years, lied about it for decades and then blamed the victim for his sinful behavior. I’m going to assume you don’t know all the details that have come out because nobody in their right mind would say he was ever qualified to preach unless they’re a child molester too.
I just read lots of condemnation and judgment on a man who recognised his mistake in the past, apologised and stepped out of ministry for two years. Came back powered by grace and God used him to raise a mega church that has been of great blessing to many globally. But, here we are casting stones at him. You are the only ones seeing him that way, not God. The Bible says that He keeps no record of wrongs. Take note, you can't be more righteous than God. I love you, Robert Morris.
"Every word men speak they will give account for in the day of judgement." Sounds like God remembers.
Leaders can be restored to the church but not put back in leadership or pastoral positions.
Which made him unqualified from the beginning but RM says “God told me” to start Gateway. Nah! God doesn’t go against His Word!
Exactly!!!!
Isn't it sad that's all the family requested from the beginning.
He should not be near children, and should have been reported to police.
2 years isn't long enough for a ''restoration process'' though.
Yes, and because of the fact the repeated rape disqualified him from being a pastor (1 Tim. 3:1-7), it should have been a lifetime, not just 2 years
He was only gone for a month, but was supposed to be gone for two years. That's how seriously that church takes this. I'd say that church deserves him.
Some good has come from all of this - Robert morris stepping down, and the elders/church leadership being questioned about how much they really knew. He was a false teacher anyway, so I am glad he is gone.
Robert Morris was stepping down next year anyway and the church had already voted for his son to replace him. Nothing has changed except the timeline of his stepping down has been moved forward. This is not punishment for his crime.
Thats called netizen justice. It takes far too long! Over 30 years. Imagine watching this played out while trying to tell people what he did and no one believes you.
In the parrable of the unmercifull servant the servant demanded that he be paid the debt that was owed to him even though his debt was forgiven. He was referered to as a wicked servant. We are all sinned against in some way or another...some of us were even younger than and the sins committed against us even greater. God expects us to forgive in order for Him to forgive and we can do that when we compare the debts...that debt that we owed God is much greater but still has been cancelled by God...should we not then cancell others debts against us? I think she was counceled incorrectly...as the only thing that will bring healing to her heart is complete forgiveness....but somehow there is still an attiute of Pay what you owe me...the same attitude the wicket unmercifull servant had!
she is nothing more than a blackmailer , but he was a fool to ignore her demands , his name his life and everything attached to him has been destroyed except his bank account --- should have paid the extortioner
We owe God a debt? We are in this world not by our choice, and we leave not by our choice. We do our best with what we know. Is God just?
she is a blackmailer and he was a fool to ignore her --perfect storm
Him, Carl Lentz, Tony Evans, TD Jakes, etc etc. These guys are narcs hiding in the church.
I appreciate the word of God & how Robert Morris explains it. Will I still be able to listen to his sermons?When I made errors of judgment in my past, I was forgiven by my Lord. I no longer live in the guilt of them. That was a VERY bad laps in judgment of R.M, however, it was also 35 years ago. Alot of healing has taken place for Robert. Whats the purpose of 35 years ago it coming forward now... I find that motivation very suspicious. I am not minimizing what, happened. Is the devil "afoot"???
It happened for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. He's a pedophile, they don't change. He only stopped doing it because she got too old for him.
He’s so fake
Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.
Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!
Ya know I’ve watched him quite a bit over the past few years. There’s no way I’d believe that he’s the same man that did this 40 yrs ago.
If this was a different felony offense that happened way back then, no one would even give it a second thought.
Forgiveness in Christ does NOT mean freedom from proper judgement. Admitting to / or getting caught in the act (four years) of the FELONY of child molestation in no way dismisses the need for civil punishment. "Retiring" from the pulpit is NOT civil justice. Apologizing is not civil justice. At a minimum, RM and all his family should lose all $$$ claims to GATEWAY, KINGS COLLEGE, future PUBLISHING, real and personal properties. Their empire has been built on a lie and they should be stopped from the continuation of ill gotten gain. Congregation members have a responsibility to withhold their money from the church until RM and his family are truly separated from ALL association with Gateway and their side hustles. $$$ is the true god that RM bends a knee to.
Well, we all have fallen. All of us have sinned. Some have murdered, and some have done what is reported by the parties. If you believe in Jesus and accept him fully and unconditionally, your sins are covered and completely forgiven. Now, does this make this act no less painful? "No." But if you believe, then you must forgive and move past this. I think that Pastor Morris should forfeit half and maybe more of his assets and give it to this young lady. So, that she can get any help she wants to help settle this wrong by a man that made a terrible mistake. All parties need to step back and accept what has happened and move forward, nothing can change the past. I personally have forgiven Robert Morris for his sinful mistake and make no judgment upon him what so ever. ❤
Um er.... a terrible mistake which he perpetrated for 4 years? He deserves no mercy, no forgiveness, no slack." There will be judgement, however, in this life and the next.
It’s not up to you to forgive him. He didn’t sin against you. It’s up to the victim to forgive him.
@@57andstillkicking it's not up to you to forgive him either.
@@saintbees2088
Oh, I know that.
Repentance..restitution...restoration....use money to start a ministry to help others....
Why isn't he in jail?
To anyone defending this man, Shame on you all!
Amen!
I am getting pummeled on here for defending the victim. I feel so deeply for her. This man and others like him who hide their immorality behind religion are dangerous. They know "Christians" will protect them because they know how to control others through the abuse of scriptures.
Now the 4th coverup of a $ex offender within Gateway has come to light. Scott Gerber, Frisco Pastor has been charged with the SA of 2 under 14 years olds. His trial scheduled for October. 😠
This church seems to be a haven for predators.
I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring YOU OUGHT to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Paul the apostle to the church leaders, Acts 20:33ff.
There's Not One day That Goes By, That I Don't Miss His Teaching's . The Woman Destroyed His Family, & Picked A Time When He Was Most Needed. Not One Of Us Are Perfect !!!
Think of all the people who go to that church that only make income of 30 or 40K a year, give money to that church and this pastor has a net worth of 117 MILLION.
The media just loves this, and people feed right into it. I’m not excusing what happened years ago, but it doesn’t mean he’s that same person.
And if it came out years ago, it should have been prosecuted then.
I pray for every person involved in this situation.
And GOD IS STILL THE SAME no matter who messes up!
You mean discerning Christians who see right through his lying wicked tail?
Yes, but this is also why those who are elders and such In the Church must take accountability and responsibility on these matters. There are so many people out there with Church trauma and want nothing to do with Jesus because of stuff like this.
It happened years ago, but God isn't mocked. Those elders must have covered for him and whatever else happened. Only God knows, but some ministries out there are truly misrepresenting Christ when these things are allowed to happen. It goes against and violates scripture.
He is still deceiving the world about it, just like he did 40+ years ago. In this way, he's still the same person.
@@miketrillo8067 it came out then, and is out now, so not sure what you mean. I’d think he was ashamed back then, asked for forgiveness, and tried to move on. Would you want to divulge all that once you were a minister, knowing that people would be heartbroken?
If this had been another crime, for example aggravated assault or felony theft, YEARS AGO would people expect him to stop ministering NOW because of that?
@@HisPresence2024 He deceitfully hid the fact back then that he raped her over 100x, because he knows that it would have disqualified him to be a pastor. He lied to his wife that the 12 year old victim seduced him, which was why his wife called the victim and told her that she forgives her.
His statement last week to the christian post was deceitfully worded to hide the full truth, claiming that it was an "inappropriate sexual behavior"--it was actually rape-molestation. He claimed that it was with a "young lady"--it was actually with a 12 year old child. He claimed it was "wrong"--it was actually criminal. He claimed it happened on "several occasions over the next few years"--it was over 100x over 4.5 years.
He lied to the congregation, he lied to his wife, and he lied to his kids, which was why his son in law Ethan Fisher shared what he shared about robert this past sunday.
Pls read 1 Tim. 3:1-7 when you get a chance. Based on his criminal background, he was never pastor qualified to begin with. He deceived his way into becoming a pastor, he deceived everyone to stay in the pastoral position, and he's still deceiving everyone now that he's not a pastor any longer.
What are most people saying? Are they saying that there is no such thing as redemption? Maybe they are saying it's only for them and nobody else. Maybe that's it. Some people carry things all their lives and the Lord wants them to lay it down at his feet. What did she want? Did she want him to have more consequences for his actions of 35 + years ago? What is that saying? Is it saying, "forgiveness for me, but not for you"? I hope we all can learn from this.
If after decades of preaching and teaching, the church still doesn't understand the gospel, maybe it is time to step down and move on, do you suppose? Yes, I know, a church offended is difficult to win, but even so...
But you can tell he's a creep from a mile away... just by his appearance alone. I'm surprised more people couldn't sense his creep vibes before
The bible says, be sure your sin will find you out. What is done in the dark will come out in the light.
I wonder are the hackers gonna go after him? Tell lies on him, follow him around, hack his cars, etc. I
wonder
I admire your concerns for the perp😢
They already are
It was 42 years ago
and it was kissing and petting
it was not intercourse and he confessed
the sin to her parents
when she was 17 years old and
he apologized to her and he received counseling for 2 years and he has confessed the sin over the years.
her parents knew that she had been only 12 years old when he confessed when she was 17 years old and
they didn't call the Police if what he did deserved jail time it would have happened when he confessed when she was 17 years old.
Plus, why did she keep sneaking into his room for over 4 years if he was abusing her?
@@fit_for_life_ no, what is that? Wait, yes, people have their dogs groomed. Was that a goofy question or what..good grief!
For god's sake! Men who are'nt rich pastors have to register and live circumspect lives for that!. You say just let him keep his $120,000,000 and the faith's shame.
Can somebody explain to me why they're protesting outside of Gateway? Robert Morris resigned, the incidents happened over 35 years ago before Gateway was started, and the victim's father didn't press charges when it happened. Are they protesting against her dad and Shady Grove church from '82-'87?
The church covered it up in 2005, the “elders” knew.
Her father probably didn't press charges because he thought the church was going to handle it and because the church teaches forgiveness
Yes, he already resigned, but it doesn't matter if it happened ten thousand years ago. They want more accountability than that. His resignation isn't the end of the fall out phase. It's the beginning.
Has her father passed?
@@jasongates- 100million in the bank and no criminal liability…it’s over.
James 2:13
because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
If victims would make a police report when it happens more lives could be spared. How much restitution is sufficient- millions of dollars?
Defund TV preachers.
Why aren’t the fbi involved?
Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.
Don't know much about the law in these kind if things to you. She has to press charges, if she done not, then the law cannot do anything about it. Also why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!
God will deal with him
@@rick3514That scripture doesn’t apply to this situation. Go back and read the Bible!
The fbi should be involved in human trafficking at the border
if you cant forgive somebody after 35 years, you're not a Christian. its that simple. especially with what he's done since then to live right. non-believers, have your feast. but believers, exactly what is it that you claim to believe? you will be measured with the same meter you use against him.
KCM,Creflo,it's sad lm glad ..l no longer follow a couple of these . Had a check in my spirit long ago.. God will shout from the Rtops what's done in secret... hallelujah!!!
Parishioners need to get up and walk out. The elders are lying.
Walk out droves in protest for the women and men who have been victims of sexual perverts and abusers. 😮
The church is not part of this. Please stop causing so much division!
TBN needs to remove him as well!
TBN is as fake as it gets
@saintbees2088 100% agree.
It absolutely makes me sick !
At least by me saying that doesn’t make me a hypocrite…God knows my heart!
Gateway Church IS still broadcasting his sermons on their YT channel!! They have also conveniently turned off comments as well. Shame on them.
At least people and the media can still see what he taught. His teaching apparently revealed some of his sick thinking, so anyone can see.
I just clicked on another channel, and I read that Robert Morris started Gateway church in 2000. Did I get that right? And this matter in question happened in the 80's? And people are saying the leadership of the church knew about it? And they did nothing? Well, what was supposed to be done? Jesus said it was finished.
So, were they right or wrong to let him start a church and preach for decades? Well, what does the evidence show, or should I say lack thereof? Maybe I should go along with Jesus and say, "Yes, it was finished."
God forgave King David for his sin with Bathseba and killing her husband Uriah. Though horrible for an adult Robert, under God's grace qualifies for Jesus's forgiveness if he truly has repented of this heinous sin. That is what God's love and grace is all about. The journey of accountability to the traumatized victim and fellow Christian community is a separate matter. God said we 'ALL' have sinned and come short of God’s expectations for us. I can only pray that after the accountability process, peace and forgiveness can be achieved for all involved.
The real problem with these Mega Churches they have kicked out the Cross They have kicked out Jesus out of the Church
They had never allowed Jesus in there in the first place!
That's so wrong.
Wow!!!!!
Let’s not forget that it was Cindy’s dad that chose not to go to the authorities to have Robert arrested, but allow the pastor and the elders of the church judge the matter (1 Corinthians 6:1-2).
Let’s also not forget that on October of 89, after the church’s pastor and elders had “judged” Robert, completed the restoration process and release him back into ministry, that now PASTOR Robert, for SEVEN months (something Cindy and her dad must’ve know) and his wife went to Cindy (now three months shy of her 20th birthday) and her dad’s home to ask for forgiveness. By ALL accounts Cindy and her dad forgave PASTOR Robert. Everything is possible, but it’s hard to believe that Cindy’s dad would grant Robert forgiveness if he was so much (according to Cindy) against him being back in ministry as a pastor. Of course he is now dead and has no say into Cindy’s allegations, now in 2024.
So my question is, if she does not dispute that as an almost 20 year old “young lady” she and her dad forgave pastor Robert, what exactly, now at 54, is she after trying to crucify and destroy pastor Robert’s ministry and life because, supposedly, 16 years after “forgiving” him he would not give her fifty thousand dollars to help with the treatment for the damage that Robert supposedly inflicted on her?
Why don't they ever say how old he was!!????🤦...20 wow....legalize polygyny
This is terribly sad! Clean house!
John 8:7 So when they continued asking Him, He lifted Himself up and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at [him].”
They were not supposed to stone the female adulterer without the male, that was the law. Also the Bible says that if the man is not punished in a case of adultery, that God will not punish the female.
So they were breaking the law, and taking vengeance in a case where they were told not to.
When are they going to arrest him?
What amazes me is extorting a money tithe for decades is okay because people don't know their Bibles and the bible never speaks about a money tithe. This open sin (taking a non biblical money tithe) is similar to the jabs and boosts as being hailed as "safe and effective".
What a shame for the Christian community to be a witness. Now his sin has found him out. And church spending money on a law firm? Big business. What a shame.
Ps Morris, I stand with you. Your sins have been forgiven. Only 1 sin is not forgivable; blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
God help Ps Morris.
He may be forgiven by our heaven Father but , the bible says. He should be punished by the law. We need to read , line up on line precept upon precept 😢😢😢 please don't forget she was just a child 12. All thru out the nt it says how in authority is more accountable than just believers. It tells them how to live. Also, Jesus Himself said ," if one offends one of the little ones. It is better they had never been born. That is Jesus's own words. Yes, we are to forgive but he is still held accountable. I know I said it twice. The point needed to be made. I hope you never had a child and something never happens to them
Un-acceptable!!
The way it works is Jesus died for our sins. We are not to play God. Therefore forgive as commanded by Jesus.
You're confusing Gospel teachings with the secular law we live within.
Judge nothing before the time until the Lord comes and brings to like the hidden things of darkness.
Look in the New Testament for the story of Ananias and Sapphira to see how merciful God is to actual believers who lie to the church. I believe they were not new to Christianity.
Peter is not God anymore than Jesus. Jesus is the son of God. This is our truth to live by, You know not what spirit you are of for the son of man came not into the world to take men's lives but to save men's lives.
The fact the 'elders' didn't know the truth is proof they covered it all up. T
Either they are lying or they didn't wanna know the truth.
I hope she sues the haaaaale outta all of them.
The fact the elders didn't know the truth is proof they covered it all up? Do you know how that makes no sense???
Human beings are so prone to these things. If Morris truly now has an honest heart before the Lord, then he cannot minimize what he has done. That is excruciatingly difficult but he must be open if he wants the full forgiveness of God. He will have to fear God more than he does man. I pray he does. My compassion is reserved for his then-young victim, though. Sexual abuse profoundly damages the spirit and the emotional health. Lord, heal her completely.
I don’t understand why all this and NOW? After 40 years? Robert Morris was forgiven by Cindy’s dad that time.
He also went to hiatus. So the blood of Jesus was working only for 40 years? Corrie Ten Boom quotes: God buries our sins in the depths of the sea and then puts up a sign that reads, “No Fishing”
It looks to me as if someone else is interested taking over this mega church. 😮
Look them up...indepth
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness" is a verse from the Bible, James 3:1. The verse is a warning to teachers that they will be held to a higher standard and judged more strictly than others because they have greater accountability and influence over people's knowledge of God and Christian character. Teachers are also responsible for living by the truth they teach and not leading people away from God's Word.
Just praying for the victim and her family along with so many who are experiencing doubt, anger, betrayal and a deep sense of spiritual confusion
May God keep everyone strong and faithful to Christ our Shepherd
Mark 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
He walked in an unrepentant once. Which He was still in sin He mentioned sin Mentioned Cindy in his message
I saw that sermon. She weighs heavily on his subconscious mind indeed
The other issue is He said He was Spirit Filled because He speaks in tongues. A Spirit Filled person does not commit a Crime to h
I can't believe he speaks in tongues. He could have stopped himself from hurting her. But apparently he has said he believes the one stronghold God cannot overcome is male sexuality. So he simply does not really believe in God, because the Bible says all things are possible with God.
If he'd been willing to give up his sin, he could have beat the devil.
Satan s way to destroy him .She is after money. I believe him God has brought him a long way. Does she even know God.No amount of money can buy respect.
Who is the "she" after money? She asked for 50,000 dollar to pay back what she shelled out for years of therapy. Morris is worth over 100 million dollars. The abuse happened for the span of 4 years. Get your facts right!!
He’s at fake as they come keep going to his church the devils house
Well she did sneak into his room for over 4 years.
@@patdempsey8325proof?
He was not believable
Robert was delivered, people need to get a grip. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.
Just imagine if he had done this to your 12 year old daughter? No, don’t imagine that 😢. There still should be consequences for this behaviour.
Why put his at a pedestal where he has access to children???
In June of 2024 Morris acknowledged in a statement to the Christian Post that he had engaged in "inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady." Deceptive words. He chose to use those words.
"I sexually abused a child." He chose not to use those words in June 2024.
@@iDelta77no one put him on anything
Devil can take forms in many many ways.. the one who appears so kind could just be one
Morris preached a lot of false stuff over the years.
Many, many non believer would never act like this.
It's discusting.
Preaching water and drinking wine to say the very least.
Blessings and healing to you Cindy. You are very brave and courage's.
A Sister in Yeshua HaMasiach
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This is all political.
There's nothing political about stuff coming out when a minister molested someone who was 12 years old.
We gotta use more common sense than that..... This is an individual that was sexually assaulted at a young age. What's political is that those in the Church chose to protect a man, let alone him being the lead pastor telling the lady to keep it under wraps. This stuff has to come to the open. There's nothing political about someone sharing what they went through, especially when it traverses aspects of sexual abuse, and molesting someone.
Where did come from he was Trump’s puppet and Abbott’s ask him how much he got from the Covid money
It sure is
@@abeekuworldchanger380it's definitely political
Wow sad
They are not being honest…
Thank god I didnt waste any time listening to him. Never liked him in first place
No, the son in law is too, Sr. Pastor
Why did she wait so many years too accuse this man ?
shes has been talking but it didnt gain the attention it needed until now God's timing is not our timing
I like the passive way you blame the victim 😢
@Howiefaam31459 exactly 💯 people are just rotten
Her parents told Robert not to make it public.
@@Howiefaam31459she asked a question. She didn't accuse!! Good grief!