Elephants of Kaimere Part I: An Examination of Prehistoric Kaimeran Proboscideans
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2023
- Although giant elephants are rare in Kaimere, proboscideans as a whole have a long, abundant, perseverant, and successful history in this strange new world. The first episode of this series explores a comprehensive history of the clade in the known world and beyond.
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Imagine how cool it would be if there's a ark-like survival game that take place in kaimere
I’d be all for it!
Unfortunately so many species of this majestic and noble line couldn’t escape death by hugging
RIP
I’d imagine if more tyrannosaurs survived the Dynastic Extinction, and reclaimed their crown, proboscideans would do much better.
They’d probably still face some losses, but large proboscideans like mammoths, elephants, mastodonts and stegodonts would probably faire better.
Not only them, but other large mammals, such as giraffids, rhinos would also faire better too, and be more diverse.
I love the sketch-like pencil details of these creatures from previous eras and periods, as if we're looking at a primeval tale from the distant past...
I feel just.. Sad how the Oliphants and many others majestic and incredible beasts died out in Kaimere too... It is a HUGE shame tbh.
I love the logic of the portal sometimes "an invasive species is causing an extinction, I know what to do, add in even more invasive species, that will surely help". I now it doesn't know much beyond lots of biomass and not enough biomass, but is still funny to me.
The diferent species of proboscideans are very interesting. I love that the steppe mammoth made it well, it's my favourite species of mammoth after all. Albeit I have loved the diferent kaimeran species. The name oliphant is a good one too and it kind of explains well the permian oliphant (and the need to diferenciate them from regular oliphants) that have appeared in old drawings if it still exist.
Haha thanks! Yes the portal is fun. I like the idea of it having a sort of intelligence, but doesn’t quite manifest like ours. If we had their sheer scope of awareness we’d likely realize that adding new fauna to an unstable ecosystem isn’t going to resolve it, especially after so many failures, but it just keeps going because that’s what it knows how to do. Astonishing computing and analytical power, but minimal adaptive reasoning
Something tells me the portal might throw a tantrum or have a meltdown because it is harnessed and chained in a way. How big is the backlog for all the times it wanted to transfer animals it gathered but can't. Something tells me that closing the portal permanently is going to do more harm than good.
@Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere the Portal is basically a supercomputer that operates on measuring biodiversity and biomass, and longed worked with tossing new species on Earth to increase biomass.
"I'll try introducing invasive species, that's a good trick!"
@@thephilosoraptor8565 It's brilliant. Brilliant I say
Somehow, I've found mammals to be significantly more interesting than dinosaurs. The sheer variety makes me want to know more about them in any setting
Sacrilege.
@@portuguesxablau1127 yo do I need to call a hospital? I think you had a stroke….
@@portuguesxablau1127 bro what's the issue lol
30+ minute episode? This is going to be a good one
Ofcource. He loves elephants.
TRUEEEE
This is where the fun begins.
THIRTY MINUTES of Elephants in Kaimere? Keenan, you legend, you madman, this has gotta be your greatest work yet! Wanted to comment as soon as I could watch this video- I’m positively thrilled!!!
Thanks! I’m very proud of this series so far! Lots more work to be done but it’s coming together great
@@TalesofKaimere their most be a herbivore scary even to raptor could break them up.
This week is my finals week, so I was really looking forward to this episode, as I love your videos and they’re a great de-stressor for me. Thank you for everything!
So glad to hear it!
Homo erectus comes to the Arvelith Highlands and starts killing off the mammoths.
Portal: You assholes! I love those mammoths. Now I got to see if Earth has more.
Portal checks Pleistocene Europe.
Portal: ...This actually solves all my problems.
Homo erectus continues killing things.
Homo erectus: Everything's coming up H-E!
Hears growls and laughing behind them.
Cave Hyenas, Homotherium, Mosbach Lions, Mosbach Wolves, and Cave Bears: We heard you were talking shit.
I love the oliphants, i hope one survived on the eastern continent and will bw covered in the next video
Huge, intelligent, communicative. These are the elephants 🐘👍
The big rigs of Kaimere. Well you know besides the Titanosauras, and the Sloths, and the Chalicotheres, the robust monarchs, a large number of aquatic animals, Mosasaurs, sharks, and whales, and the Bokodu.
Ok maybe there not as big a deal on Kaimere as on earth in the context of size.
In my mind, I can see the Titanosaurs being the big rigs, the large theropods as monster trucks, and the giant mammals and ornithopods as various different brands of huge pickup truck or SUV.
I love Elephants and can tell this was a passion project! These trunked beasts deserve their own series and I’m glad this passion project has come into being!
Absolutely! This has been such a treat
Super looking forward to hearing about the Chuga in more detail! The allusions made in the episode of them being a fully sentient race with a language is deeply fascinating, and adds to the fantastical yet grounded nature of Kaimere
I’ve been waiting all morning to watch this so I can watch it uninterrupted for my lunch break
Heck yeah!
This is the longest episode I've seen you make. Well done! I've loved elephants ever since I was a toddler. Two elephants at the Bronx Zoo would always be out and about when my mom and I braked for lunch. My mom would even hum as we approached, a silly but interesting mimic to the elephant's infrasound. I'm planning on having a wide variety of Proboscideans in my fantasy world too, including some older relatives from the Eocene. There have been at least 350 different species of elephants in Earth's natural history, but they started out the size of sheep!
They start more as semi-aquatic "Hippo-like tapirs", such Moeritherium, before becoming more terrestrial and eolved their two majors traits : their tusks and trunks.
And also increase in size.
Thank you! Was a ton of fun. I loved visiting zoos as a kid. I visit the Syracuse zoo pretty often and I love the improvements they’ve made to the space and enrichment of elephants in their enclosure
Nice work Keenan each video keeps getting higher and higher quality. I will say though I’m surprised no elephants tried to muscle their way into more semi aquatic niches, though I suppose the combo of aquatic rhinos, and the later arrival of hippos probably kept them from exploring such niches.
In the very first image of the episode, when the title of it appear on screen, the species seen in it are, from left to right :
- a Oliphant Gomphothere
- a Qotaur's ancestor
- and an undefined Megathere sloth.
Which ones in the video are the grassland woodland forest and pairie oilphaunts respectivly
If Cuvieronis and Notiomastodon were introduced to kaimere
Damn, I didn't even know there are _that_ many proboscideans in prehistoric Kaimere! I can't wait for next week's episode!
A psuedo-reboot that I like! I'm going to enjoy this series!
Yooo!!! Proboscideans in Kaimere!!! Lezzz goooo!!!!!❤
Heck yeah!
Weird question, but if a Marine Protector-class patrol boat of the United States Coast Guard was to be transported to Kaimere, how well would the crew fare against the wildlife and nations of Kaimere?
Probably well, though it depends largely on what first aid they have at their disposal. Lots of diseases in Kaimere they wouldn’t have any natural immunity to and best hope you got lots of penicillin
Absolutely loved this episode. Once again humans caused 😢 Mammoth extinction in Kaimere too.Looking forward to meet all the little big boys surviving on the islands in Kaimere😊 in the next episodes.
Have you ever made a complete map and/or of every important harvest of Kaimere history? Particularly the Pre-Cenozoic ones?
Yes, although as they are subject to change, I'm not planning on going public with them yet. Besides, the Assembly are really only confident about the dates of those in the Cenozoic, and of those even they aren't sure about exact dates, so to keep things consistent with seeing this information through their lens, I probably won't ever give specifics, just general estimates.
The video was simply amazing! And the music kinda sounding like the bellows of an elephant makes it even greater!
Thank you! Finding just the right music can take a while but it really brings it all together when I do!
can you do a video about crocodilians of kaimere after the one about Proboscideans?
If I get a sponsor for crocs I will happily do so! Unfortunately it will take so much time to do the art I need to wait for a sponsor.
Well I'm now hooked on all these videos and I'm just starting the first book. I feel like the more Kaimere content I consume the more I want to see it adapted into like an open-world/action role playing game or TV series. It's bursting at the seams with media potential.
Thank you! I’m chipping away at an RPG setting amidst everything else and might release a beta version within a year or two
I’d watch a kaimere tv series on repeat every day and play the open world survival game every day
Absolutely fantastic work! As a big fan of proboscideans, I'm happy as hell to see this and what you got coming along. On a different note, a story that could be made from one of the last surviving Oliphants would be heartbreaking, one of the last of its kind, watching its loved ones die from starvation or the Uktan, and making a final stand against the same beast that put down most of its family only for it to die the same way they did... maybe the story would end with the individual seeing its family again on the other side.
Nice to learn history of these magnificent animals.
Long ago, the flora and fauna of Kaimere lived together in relative stability. Then everything changed when H. erectus attacked.
haha yup RIP
Kaimere gets better every week
Heck yeah!
I can’t wait for the coming episodes. Truly all the work you put into these and kaimere as a whole is astounding. Every episode is fantastic keep up the amazing work!!
Thank you!!
On the planet of Therosia, and the vast northern supercontinent of Laurasica in particular, the proboscideans not only survive, but thrive in appreciable numbers and diversity.
Deinotheres. Amebelodonts, Gomphotheres, Mammutids, Elephantids, and Mammoths are among the dominant herbivores of Laurasica.
The Royal Elephant, a species of Palaeoloxodon, is one of the largest herbivores on the entire planet, with the largest bulls measuring up to 18 feet tall, and weighing 23 tons, second only to the 20-foot tall, 25 ton Savanna Gargantutbere, a massive descendant of Paraceratherium.
The soundtrack for this episode is phenomenal by the way.
Thanks!
LERS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Huzzah!
Kaimere fans: A 30 minute episode on the history of prehistoric kaimeran proboscideands?
Keenan: Yes.
I TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!!!
In for a treat over the next few weeks!
It's fun and werid to think of elephants as size of a horse but Sumatran elephants do exist
And
Can't wait to see that mysterious olifant
Wow half hour episode! That's incredible!
Elephants are awesome animals
I think it could be pretty cool if there was a Minecraft mod based on kaimere, lots of possibilites for one. Maybe even a new biome filled with hauze grass and another biome being titan gardens
Would be very cool! I know a couple people who have made Kaimere Minecraft models but not a whole mod
What a little coincidence, my grandpa has a passion for elephants too
Once again, a masterpiece Keenan.
Thank you!
@@TalesofKaimere I had an idea for a giant, sloth like armadillos descendant, on the order of magnitude of the Hukolgor sloth. Do you think that would be feasible? Especially against giant carnivores like tyrannosaur sized terror birds?
Such diversity! This is easily the most detailed and comprehensive episode so far! Love the insight it gave into other harvests as well.
One last thing befause my autistic brain wont let me leave this alone, but the mammoth genus is _Mammuthus_ , no o's included. Of course if this is a genus unique to Kaimere forget i said anything lol
Thanks! Yeah that was a typo lol
I know I’m going to enjoy this series!! This is going to definitely help me further develop the Martian portal and cradle proboscideans
Heck yeah let’s go!!
Martian portal?
@@rohacha9iin40 my world building project!
@@balenfalotico2283 I would like to read more about it, if you have any material posted anywhere
A long video, but well worth the watch! Very well made!
Thank you!!
All those little island, if someone wanted to write fanfiction for Kaimere they'd provide ample settings
No way, a slight misspelling of Mammuthus, video ruined!!! Just kidding of course, this was a banger of an episode, good to see more high quality as usual content coming! Damn I love Kaimere
Haha yeah a couple folks pointed that out 💀 luckily there’s time to change it for the mammoth profile next week!
Oh this is epic
I really like this episode. Elephants are some of my favourite groups of animals ever, they're just fascinating in how they evolved due to their habitat. I would like to be completely honest with you, Kaimere is a really well made and interesting project, but I sort of wish it wasn't another world based heavily off of prehistory that was once again ruled by reptiles. I'd have liked to see an equal footing between mammals and reptiles, especially considering how adaptable mammals can be at least compared to reptiles. I don't meant to say one group is better than the others, just saying that it would be more unique. But I do not mean to completely shit on this project, again it is truly great. The drawings are fantastic, the life forms and cultures are creative, and videos such as these show that the world is rich and filled out.
Thanks! I guess my pushback is that I do feel they are largely on equal footing, at least within the known world, certainly in the small and middle tier niches, and mammals have several heavy hitters, especially with big herbivores. Dinosaurs, especially theropods and sauropods within their niche, could get so much larger than mammals that it would feel disingenuous to say that for example tigers and 8-ton theropods are in any way competitive with each other. If I gave too many advantages to mammals, favoring them in contextual ways like cooler or wetter climates making titanosaurs and therefore open forests for big theropods rare, it would just end up feeling too much like our own timeline, and if I bend things to be too similar, it takes away a lot of the appeal of an alternative prehistory vibe this gives.
@@TalesofKaimere Oh, well that's fair honestly. Yeah, I was aware mammalian and dinosaurian sizes could never compete due to multiple factors. To me the universe just seemed like mammals picking up archosaurian scraps, but I was probably just reading into it wrong.
One of the best videos of Kaimere by far
Thank you!!
I enjoyed every second of it!
Thanks glad to hear it!
9:02 Of course as on Earth, the largest land mammal is (though maybe arguably) a proboscidean.
Indeed. Consultants I spoke with had some varying opinions on the matter, so I didn't want to outright side one way or the other. Paraceratherium is the biggest consensus and P. namadicus may well be an outlier. Hopefully more specimens will illuminate the situation further!
A strategy keeps running through my head. An elephant phalanx of multiple animals might be effective. a predator knocks away one set of tusks to be jabbed by another animal. The megaraptoran grapple would be ineffective if it can't close the distance.
Could work, and is likely what a group of Drenduga employ. However, this is unlikely to be a consistently reliable tactic. Each elephant has to trust that no other companion will break the line. Considering how skittish elephants are known to be, this couldn’t be counted on. If the others bolt, and the one grabbed fails to fend it off, it could be over quick. Again, it might work and as I will discuss in the Drenduga episode they do successfully gang up sometimes, but avoidance is often a much wiser act.
Best video so far.
Hell yeah man!
My comment got deleted.Goddammit.Anyways I love this episode and elephants are also one you of my favorite animals.I feel like mastodons amd and oliphants are getting gaslighted.At least they still have some survivors.
On Objecia, elephants can be located on several continents. The largest being the the mega elephant.
This was really a AMAZING episode ! Really, for a first episode of this mini-serie, it hit HARD !
Nice job Keenan ! 10/10
My ONLY NITPICK, however, will be that you seem to refers, at the beginning, at 1:00, and some moments throughout the episode, true Elephants as only exclusively the Elephantidae family, the only surviving family.
But in reality, and at the opossite of what several others people such Artbyjrc and some others on DeviantArt, some sources on the Net online or on RUclips, want to make others believe, "True Elephants" are all the members and families include in the "Elephantimorpha" order.
Elephantidae are true elephants, but they are "Modern Elephants".
"Modern" or "Extant Elephants" is names exclusive to this latter family, to made them reconizable easily from the others families.
While the others families, Mastodons (Mammutidae), Stegodons (Stegodontidae, aka Lance Tuskers), Amebelodontid (Shovel-Tuskers), Gomphoteres (Gomphoteridae) and Anacidae and Choerolophodontidae (another two more obscure groups) are "True Elephants" as well, but "Archaic Elephants".
"Archaic Elephants" is a term to refer to any members of the Elephantimorpha who aren't in the Elephantidae family.
Some people said and think that Archaic elephants aren't true elephants, but there no reasons to think that, giving that they have all of them all the traits that define what an elephant is.
That mean =
1 - Big and robust, animal, whith four robust legs,
2 - two main pairs of (developped/evolved) upper tusks
3 - and a (developped/evolved) prehensile and maniable trunk.
(and it's all, the definition of what is an elephant is very simple in the first place, so saying that elephants aren't elephants because they aren't part of the Elephantidae family is a very dumb argument to begin with, in final).
All the Elephantimorpha have these traits. So they are all True Elephants as such.
And the traits that made aparts each families (such the forms and shape of the tusks, the ones of the head, and their molar teeth mainly) are too subtiles and smalls to justifiate to consider them as "Not True Elephants".
After all, for comparision, every species in the genus Homo are "True Humans" as than H. sapiens, but with use the term of "Archaic human" to differentiate them from our own species, H. sapiens, which it, have the name/term of "Modern Human" exclusive to it, to made it clearly apart from the others species of the same genus, and to avoid confusions.
(you yourself use the term of Archaic human in the episode in question).
However, in the episode, It's also posible that you refer to all of these families as "True Elephants" in reality, since you said that Proboscidean, as an order, is only composed now by elephants, while this order also had several lineages of animals (Moeritheridae, Numitheridae, Barytheridae) that weren't at all elephants.
(So, in that case, I missunderstood).
Yet, it's worth it to mention that Deinotherium and cie (Deinotheridae) weren't True Elephants at all !
Because they aren't part of the Elephantimorpha order, but from the sister order, the Plesielephantiformes !
And their elephant-like shape is only due to convergent evolution.
In truth, these infos are very important to take into account, because there really many huges missconceptions who aren't true that many people have still in modern days on them.
Yet, outside that, that was a very good epiosde and introduction to this mini-series ! :)
I stand by my decision to mean the family of modern elephants with that statement. I feel it helps to underscore the sheer diversity of the group.
@@TalesofKaimere Understandable.
Was just a small precision.
And just a pure personnal opinion.
Technically, even by saying they are all True Elephants despite they were very differents from one family to another, in final, the results are the same.
That made people realised that elephants were very diverses in head and tusks shapes, niches, ecology and sizes anyway.
If you personnally think you that it's the better way to present them, so ok, go for that.
It's you the expert anyway.
But otherwise, you did really well this episode ! 👍😊
.....my proboscian friends.....the world.....is unforgiving.....you are not the untouchable mountains from Earth....no. Now, now you live in the land of true giants. Simply another behemoth.....and yet. You will persist. Whether it be by shrinking and being stout dwarves, or using your minds and hearts to take care of one another. YOU. WILL. PERSIST.
Aw the tiny mammoths are so cute :D
Glad you like em because they’re all featured next week!
@@TalesofKaimere I bet they would make great companion animals!
Question for you since it does seem like the South American harvest that brought in animals such as ground sloths, notoungulates, and glyptodonts seemed to have had an edge over other mammals harvested as they had to deal with terror birds who play a pretty similar role, if not nearly exact(except for size of course compared to the drakes) to the therapods of kaimere, if there were say a hypothetical harvest from Florida, and the southeast US that happened say around 2 million years ago, how would the animals from that time fair with being thrown into Kaimere, and how might it shake up the ecology compared to what happened ?
cool video
I find it interesting that there is barely a shred of mention of the mega abelisaurs, dromaeosaurs, and entelodonts in this since in your 1st megaraptoran video, you said that the herbivores of Ni'Khar were accustomed to fending off attacks from these predators prior to the arrival of Arvelith megaraptorans.
Indeed, though they were all in Kairul, while this episode is mostly focused on Ni’Khar, which had megaraptorans instead.
The most recent mention a focused the three other kairul mega predators got was in bokodus video
22:14 and they did it again...
Question : the very original "Tuga" and it's design will be reused, as one of the numerous species of Tugas that exist inside the Known World or not ?
Yes, though not in next weeks episode.
@@TalesofKaimere Still a Paleoloxodon ?
Idk if you've ever covered it before, but I've always wondered about Homo erectus and other early human species in Kaimere. Did they die out before modern Kaimerans or First People showed up? In the alt-hist spec-evo story I've been working on over the past few years, this is an issue I keep having to come back to -- there's tons of ways for them to survive up to the modern day, but I almost don't want them to, because I know homo sapiens (being homo sapiens) would quickly either genocide them or enslave them or do something horrible.
An interesting idea is to have one elephant species get lucky. Some of the first children decided to play pranks on predators first using magic on some birds and trained them to nest in the mammoth fur. Second they shaped the tusks to low and curved so that they can't be easily swepted away so when attacked at the raising of the head traps the predator's flanks. The second set of shorter tusks still on the head drive themselves into the predators chest. A third set of tusks on the lower jaw curve up to protect the forehead. Third the birds like this arrangement so much that they even start defending their new homes on legs the start defending the elephants. The first children start changing the beaks of the small birds to cut through dino skin. Last the birds were trained to attack from behind. Now as long as no one attacks the elephants the First children(Fae) can eat there picnics dino free.
The First Chidren really seemed to have it out for the Mastodon's, didn't they? 🤣
Yeah they did lol
They also had it out for any creature that they thought would be a inocveince to them or scary
Forest Gompotheres, nice
30 minutes of elephants!
Heck yeah!!
24:06
"house grass had arrived"
BUM, BUM, BUM!
*dramatic reverb*
given how agressive and competitive this grass is...
kinda makes me wonder what would happen if a few of them
accidentally landed on earth and began to grow in africa.
Hell Yeah. Do I email you if I want to sponsor an episode. I think I want to do the Komu (giant dromaesaur) the Titatikk(Abelisaurid)
Yes indeed!
Do hyraxs live on kaimere
IS THAT METERS IM HEARING? I LOVE YOU KEENAN
Haha thanks! Trying to integrate it more
Elephants yeeess!
nice video man!!!
Heck yeah!!
Thanks!
@@TalesofKaimere also just want to say you are one of the 3 people who inspired me to do spec evo and I appreciate that Thank you!
There any exotic materials found in Kaimere?
I thought they were extinct to be honest but this is cool
Aside from American mastodons and Columbian mammoths, what other proboscideans came through the interrupted harvest?
Do you know what you should do you should gather some friends or People you know and do a role-playing game based on Kaimere and the players are humans or kaimereings from kaimere Think of it like the dungeons and dragons world but it’s kaimere if characters in the stories or books do of kaimere work perhaps this will work to
It's in the works!
@@TalesofKaimere ❤️👍😊
LET'S GO KAIMERIAN ELEPHANTS (Again?)
Heck yeah!!
i liked this imaginary documentary :]
Would elephants have fared better if megaratorans weren't the apex predators? How well would they have done against tyrannosaurs or abelisaurs?
Probably would have fared better, but it’s a different angle I would have had to consider and explore
Damn it, there's people in this one too
How did zygolophodon interact with dinosaurs (and bear dogs and entelodonts)?
Are there any surviving placaderms in Kaimere? I would think Dunleosteus would’ve gone extinct but did any other take a similar role. Filling a niche similar to large sharks (by earth standards, medium predator by Kaimere standards). If so could you do an episode on those?
Mabey, the fist harvest was Devonian if I recall correctly, so possibly.
OGM Is this the longest video of the entire history of this Channel?
It's gotta be up there! Think some of my Q&A's may have been longer but those were a much different format
Hey just here me out for an idea for kaimere giant marine Spinosaurids outside of the known world
4:32 You said that the first Kaimeran gomphotheres from North America went to Kairul. What happened to those gomphotheres?
Time will tell. I have future plans but as they aren't finalized and people don't like it when I make changes to this work in progress, I'm trying to not go public with things that may be altered. They aren't retcons since the only true canon are things mentioned in the books, but people keep calling them retcons and getting riled about it so I'm pulling back on what I discuss openly
DARN YOU HUMANS!
Are pseudois, or protovis present in kaimere, or are their niches filled other specialists?
Does their niche even exist in kaimere, hows the habitat in at 4 to 6,5 kilometers above sea level?
Not sure about the presence of that genus specifically, but there may be relatives, they might be present, but there are protoceratopsids currently slated for it or something similar.
Bighorned sheep
@@rylanbrewer3320 Bighorn sheep dont range higher than around 2500 meters because of their respiratory tract.
Do you think bighorned sheep have a chance on akiemre
22:20 is this what people call karma?
4:08 Am i seeing this right? A south american harvest *other* than the 6 million years one?
When did this happen??? What animals were harvested?
This has made me excited and a little confused
Yup! Was first mentioned in the monkey episode I believe. It was responsible for a lot more flora than fauna, but some animals did come over at that too. A number of sloths, such as the Simiomorphs, were harvested at this time
@@TalesofKaimere Ohhh that must've been the one that brought all the new world monkeys then.
Come to think of it, an earlier South American harvest was mentioned in the terror bird episode but I just brushed it off
Neat! How else has the timeline of harvests since the Dynastic Extinction changed since the first portal video?
@@thephilosoraptor8565 None have changed. I haven't added any harvests since the portal video, just not all of them were mentioned. I think I did include them all at the end of the episode, though! At least all the post-Dynastic Extinction harvests. Don't think I'll ever set the Mesozoic harvests in stone since there's no practical way for the Assembly to pin it to a date that far back, just a general 'there was a Maastrictian harvest in Asia' for example.
Same time as the North Atlantic one?
So in short african elephant coused extinction of best adapted Kaimeran large Proboscidean that otherwise would probably adapted to new setting?
Haha sort of. There were a lot of other unfortunately coinciding factors, but yes, African elephants were one of those factors
22:29
oh dear.... i feel this might be a form of karma
Did the Sebecids get harvested in the Miocene Southe American harvest and are any still extant?
As far as I am aware, they did not get harvested. The Permian Islands have a large land crocodile called the Boar Croc that looks somewhat similar to a Sebecid.
My comment aged very poorly. Sebecids are indeed in Kaimere.
0:11 Tremortusk!?
!!!!! Attention ! : At 20:43, you made a Mistake !
It's Asian Elephants who lived and become extinct in the Northern warm Arvel forest region, at Mya, not Stegodon(tid) species population !
The true sentence, as written in the DeviantArt post "Proboscideans 1.5-0.7 mya" is : "Asian elephants holding out in Arvel’s warm northern forests, however, went extinct during this time, seemingly due to forest oliphaunt competition."
All mainland stegodontid became extinct way before, somewhere in the Anchored Period between 5.5-1.5 Mya , as mentionned at 18:21.
It's was first the species/population living in the Highland of Arvel that became extinct first when the Titanosaurs came in this place when the climate was warmer, then the remaining mainland population of stegodontid somewhere after the first one.
Then Stegodont itself was harvested at the same time as Asian elephants. I may not have been clear, but it was not a mistake.
@@TalesofKaimere Ohhh... Yes, It's true I remember this fact.
I forget it !
So, yes, it's true, in that case, there no mistake, just a missundertanding from mine.
Sorry so.
I wonder what an Elephent would look like without a trunk
Cursed. Also eating would definitely be a lot more inconvenient, as with no appendage for putting food directly in the mouth, tusks would constantly get in the way.
@@Andrey.Ivanov Im gonna draw one
@@Ligerbee I quickly sketched one out and I can confirm that it's cursed 😂
@@Andrey.Ivanov I agree after drawling one.
What about an elephant with two trunks, one per nostril like the Loxo from D&D?
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