Elephants of Kaimere Part I: An Examination of Prehistoric Kaimeran Proboscideans

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  • Опубликовано: 1 май 2023
  • Although giant elephants are rare in Kaimere, proboscideans as a whole have a long, abundant, perseverant, and successful history in this strange new world. The first episode of this series explores a comprehensive history of the clade in the known world and beyond.
    Songs of the Inland Sea is the sequel to Tales of Kaimere! It is a nautical anthology, with all six short stories and novellas taking place in aquatic settings. There are heists on a ship, a desperate chase through a marsh, and a survival story from the perspective of a killer whale!
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Комментарии • 205

  • @tposeanteater
    @tposeanteater Год назад +33

    Imagine how cool it would be if there's a ark-like survival game that take place in kaimere

  • @stephenlamb4212
    @stephenlamb4212 Год назад +37

    Unfortunately so many species of this majestic and noble line couldn’t escape death by hugging

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +9

      RIP

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад +3

      I’d imagine if more tyrannosaurs survived the Dynastic Extinction, and reclaimed their crown, proboscideans would do much better.
      They’d probably still face some losses, but large proboscideans like mammoths, elephants, mastodonts and stegodonts would probably faire better.
      Not only them, but other large mammals, such as giraffids, rhinos would also faire better too, and be more diverse.

  • @juanisol8275
    @juanisol8275 Год назад +12

    I love the sketch-like pencil details of these creatures from previous eras and periods, as if we're looking at a primeval tale from the distant past...

  • @alghoulaj7172
    @alghoulaj7172 Год назад +39

    I feel just.. Sad how the Oliphants and many others majestic and incredible beasts died out in Kaimere too... It is a HUGE shame tbh.

  • @Ditidos
    @Ditidos Год назад +22

    I love the logic of the portal sometimes "an invasive species is causing an extinction, I know what to do, add in even more invasive species, that will surely help". I now it doesn't know much beyond lots of biomass and not enough biomass, but is still funny to me.
    The diferent species of proboscideans are very interesting. I love that the steppe mammoth made it well, it's my favourite species of mammoth after all. Albeit I have loved the diferent kaimeran species. The name oliphant is a good one too and it kind of explains well the permian oliphant (and the need to diferenciate them from regular oliphants) that have appeared in old drawings if it still exist.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +12

      Haha thanks! Yes the portal is fun. I like the idea of it having a sort of intelligence, but doesn’t quite manifest like ours. If we had their sheer scope of awareness we’d likely realize that adding new fauna to an unstable ecosystem isn’t going to resolve it, especially after so many failures, but it just keeps going because that’s what it knows how to do. Astonishing computing and analytical power, but minimal adaptive reasoning

    • @timothystuedemann5390
      @timothystuedemann5390 Год назад +2

      Something tells me the portal might throw a tantrum or have a meltdown because it is harnessed and chained in a way. How big is the backlog for all the times it wanted to transfer animals it gathered but can't. Something tells me that closing the portal permanently is going to do more harm than good.

    • @operandwriter
      @operandwriter Год назад

      ​@Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere the Portal is basically a supercomputer that operates on measuring biodiversity and biomass, and longed worked with tossing new species on Earth to increase biomass.

    • @thephilosoraptor8565
      @thephilosoraptor8565 Год назад +4

      "I'll try introducing invasive species, that's a good trick!"

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +3

      @@thephilosoraptor8565 It's brilliant. Brilliant I say

  • @tdthedevilsrighthand712
    @tdthedevilsrighthand712 Год назад +80

    Somehow, I've found mammals to be significantly more interesting than dinosaurs. The sheer variety makes me want to know more about them in any setting

    • @Archosaur_Dominion
      @Archosaur_Dominion Год назад +6

      Sacrilege.

    • @HogBurger
      @HogBurger Год назад

      @@portuguesxablau1127 yo do I need to call a hospital? I think you had a stroke….

    • @Mr.Wetherilli
      @Mr.Wetherilli Год назад

      ​@@portuguesxablau1127 bro what's the issue lol

  • @Andrey.Ivanov
    @Andrey.Ivanov Год назад +55

    30+ minute episode? This is going to be a good one

  • @bluefyre7
    @bluefyre7 Год назад +60

    THIRTY MINUTES of Elephants in Kaimere? Keenan, you legend, you madman, this has gotta be your greatest work yet! Wanted to comment as soon as I could watch this video- I’m positively thrilled!!!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +8

      Thanks! I’m very proud of this series so far! Lots more work to be done but it’s coming together great

    • @skistorm739
      @skistorm739 Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere their most be a herbivore scary even to raptor could break them up.

  • @jacobjerny7502
    @jacobjerny7502 Год назад +47

    This week is my finals week, so I was really looking forward to this episode, as I love your videos and they’re a great de-stressor for me. Thank you for everything!

  • @redlycan5064
    @redlycan5064 Год назад +15

    Homo erectus comes to the Arvelith Highlands and starts killing off the mammoths.
    Portal: You assholes! I love those mammoths. Now I got to see if Earth has more.
    Portal checks Pleistocene Europe.
    Portal: ...This actually solves all my problems.
    Homo erectus continues killing things.
    Homo erectus: Everything's coming up H-E!
    Hears growls and laughing behind them.
    Cave Hyenas, Homotherium, Mosbach Lions, Mosbach Wolves, and Cave Bears: We heard you were talking shit.

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 Год назад +8

    I love the oliphants, i hope one survived on the eastern continent and will bw covered in the next video

  • @deinowolfhybridhero5101
    @deinowolfhybridhero5101 Год назад +4

    Huge, intelligent, communicative. These are the elephants 🐘👍

  • @bignelly9476
    @bignelly9476 Год назад +16

    The big rigs of Kaimere. Well you know besides the Titanosauras, and the Sloths, and the Chalicotheres, the robust monarchs, a large number of aquatic animals, Mosasaurs, sharks, and whales, and the Bokodu.
    Ok maybe there not as big a deal on Kaimere as on earth in the context of size.

    • @IanPendleton-gh6ox
      @IanPendleton-gh6ox 3 месяца назад

      In my mind, I can see the Titanosaurs being the big rigs, the large theropods as monster trucks, and the giant mammals and ornithopods as various different brands of huge pickup truck or SUV.

  • @Kingofportals
    @Kingofportals Год назад +7

    I love Elephants and can tell this was a passion project! These trunked beasts deserve their own series and I’m glad this passion project has come into being!

  • @sentinelstorm487
    @sentinelstorm487 Год назад +19

    Super looking forward to hearing about the Chuga in more detail! The allusions made in the episode of them being a fully sentient race with a language is deeply fascinating, and adds to the fantastical yet grounded nature of Kaimere

  • @BigBossMan538
    @BigBossMan538 Год назад +2

    I’ve been waiting all morning to watch this so I can watch it uninterrupted for my lunch break

  • @sivanlevi3867
    @sivanlevi3867 Год назад +17

    This is the longest episode I've seen you make. Well done! I've loved elephants ever since I was a toddler. Two elephants at the Bronx Zoo would always be out and about when my mom and I braked for lunch. My mom would even hum as we approached, a silly but interesting mimic to the elephant's infrasound. I'm planning on having a wide variety of Proboscideans in my fantasy world too, including some older relatives from the Eocene. There have been at least 350 different species of elephants in Earth's natural history, but they started out the size of sheep!

    • @dudotolivier6363
      @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +3

      They start more as semi-aquatic "Hippo-like tapirs", such Moeritherium, before becoming more terrestrial and eolved their two majors traits : their tusks and trunks.
      And also increase in size.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +4

      Thank you! Was a ton of fun. I loved visiting zoos as a kid. I visit the Syracuse zoo pretty often and I love the improvements they’ve made to the space and enrichment of elephants in their enclosure

  • @kobijuankonobe7403
    @kobijuankonobe7403 Год назад +6

    Nice work Keenan each video keeps getting higher and higher quality. I will say though I’m surprised no elephants tried to muscle their way into more semi aquatic niches, though I suppose the combo of aquatic rhinos, and the later arrival of hippos probably kept them from exploring such niches.

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +7

    In the very first image of the episode, when the title of it appear on screen, the species seen in it are, from left to right :
    - a Oliphant Gomphothere
    - a Qotaur's ancestor
    - and an undefined Megathere sloth.

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 11 месяцев назад +1

      Which ones in the video are the grassland woodland forest and pairie oilphaunts respectivly

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 11 месяцев назад

      If Cuvieronis and Notiomastodon were introduced to kaimere

  • @FatFish7600
    @FatFish7600 Год назад +2

    Damn, I didn't even know there are _that_ many proboscideans in prehistoric Kaimere! I can't wait for next week's episode!

  • @theprehistoricprofessor9076
    @theprehistoricprofessor9076 Год назад +7

    A psuedo-reboot that I like! I'm going to enjoy this series!

  • @nooneimportant834
    @nooneimportant834 Год назад +5

    Yooo!!! Proboscideans in Kaimere!!! Lezzz goooo!!!!!❤

  • @tozarkt9805
    @tozarkt9805 Год назад +12

    Weird question, but if a Marine Protector-class patrol boat of the United States Coast Guard was to be transported to Kaimere, how well would the crew fare against the wildlife and nations of Kaimere?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +10

      Probably well, though it depends largely on what first aid they have at their disposal. Lots of diseases in Kaimere they wouldn’t have any natural immunity to and best hope you got lots of penicillin

  • @vasantmasurekar4826
    @vasantmasurekar4826 Год назад +13

    Absolutely loved this episode. Once again humans caused 😢 Mammoth extinction in Kaimere too.Looking forward to meet all the little big boys surviving on the islands in Kaimere😊 in the next episodes.

  • @sharksuperiority9736
    @sharksuperiority9736 Год назад +3

    Have you ever made a complete map and/or of every important harvest of Kaimere history? Particularly the Pre-Cenozoic ones?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      Yes, although as they are subject to change, I'm not planning on going public with them yet. Besides, the Assembly are really only confident about the dates of those in the Cenozoic, and of those even they aren't sure about exact dates, so to keep things consistent with seeing this information through their lens, I probably won't ever give specifics, just general estimates.

  • @vasiliskapsalis1086
    @vasiliskapsalis1086 Год назад +4

    The video was simply amazing! And the music kinda sounding like the bellows of an elephant makes it even greater!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +3

      Thank you! Finding just the right music can take a while but it really brings it all together when I do!

  • @soudino2723
    @soudino2723 Год назад +10

    can you do a video about crocodilians of kaimere after the one about Proboscideans?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +5

      If I get a sponsor for crocs I will happily do so! Unfortunately it will take so much time to do the art I need to wait for a sponsor.

  • @jasonvoorhees5180
    @jasonvoorhees5180 Год назад +4

    Well I'm now hooked on all these videos and I'm just starting the first book. I feel like the more Kaimere content I consume the more I want to see it adapted into like an open-world/action role playing game or TV series. It's bursting at the seams with media potential.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +3

      Thank you! I’m chipping away at an RPG setting amidst everything else and might release a beta version within a year or two

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад +1

      I’d watch a kaimere tv series on repeat every day and play the open world survival game every day

  • @chancegivens9390
    @chancegivens9390 Год назад +3

    Absolutely fantastic work! As a big fan of proboscideans, I'm happy as hell to see this and what you got coming along. On a different note, a story that could be made from one of the last surviving Oliphants would be heartbreaking, one of the last of its kind, watching its loved ones die from starvation or the Uktan, and making a final stand against the same beast that put down most of its family only for it to die the same way they did... maybe the story would end with the individual seeing its family again on the other side.

  • @eyeoftheswarm5708
    @eyeoftheswarm5708 Год назад +6

    Nice to learn history of these magnificent animals.

  • @TheSinisterSwordsman
    @TheSinisterSwordsman Год назад +2

    Long ago, the flora and fauna of Kaimere lived together in relative stability. Then everything changed when H. erectus attacked.

  • @Suskityrannus
    @Suskityrannus Год назад +1

    Kaimere gets better every week

  • @orangeknight2441
    @orangeknight2441 Год назад +4

    I can’t wait for the coming episodes. Truly all the work you put into these and kaimere as a whole is astounding. Every episode is fantastic keep up the amazing work!!

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 Год назад +1

    On the planet of Therosia, and the vast northern supercontinent of Laurasica in particular, the proboscideans not only survive, but thrive in appreciable numbers and diversity.
    Deinotheres. Amebelodonts, Gomphotheres, Mammutids, Elephantids, and Mammoths are among the dominant herbivores of Laurasica.
    The Royal Elephant, a species of Palaeoloxodon, is one of the largest herbivores on the entire planet, with the largest bulls measuring up to 18 feet tall, and weighing 23 tons, second only to the 20-foot tall, 25 ton Savanna Gargantutbere, a massive descendant of Paraceratherium.

  • @liambrandley2716
    @liambrandley2716 Год назад +1

    The soundtrack for this episode is phenomenal by the way.

  • @woogle7382
    @woogle7382 Год назад +5

    LERS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Huitizilopochtli
    @Huitizilopochtli Год назад +1

    Kaimere fans: A 30 minute episode on the history of prehistoric kaimeran proboscideands?
    Keenan: Yes.

  • @lamnaa
    @lamnaa Год назад

    In for a treat over the next few weeks!

  • @levinjoseph233
    @levinjoseph233 Год назад +2

    It's fun and werid to think of elephants as size of a horse but Sumatran elephants do exist
    And
    Can't wait to see that mysterious olifant

  • @1998topornik
    @1998topornik Год назад +1

    Wow half hour episode! That's incredible!

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Год назад +1

    Elephants are awesome animals

  • @TheGBZard
    @TheGBZard 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think it could be pretty cool if there was a Minecraft mod based on kaimere, lots of possibilites for one. Maybe even a new biome filled with hauze grass and another biome being titan gardens

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  11 месяцев назад +1

      Would be very cool! I know a couple people who have made Kaimere Minecraft models but not a whole mod

  • @MrWanapon
    @MrWanapon Год назад +1

    What a little coincidence, my grandpa has a passion for elephants too

  • @aaronbeckett4062
    @aaronbeckett4062 Год назад +2

    Once again, a masterpiece Keenan.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад

      Thank you!

    • @aaronbeckett4062
      @aaronbeckett4062 Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere I had an idea for a giant, sloth like armadillos descendant, on the order of magnitude of the Hukolgor sloth. Do you think that would be feasible? Especially against giant carnivores like tyrannosaur sized terror birds?

  • @thephilosoraptor8565
    @thephilosoraptor8565 Год назад +1

    Such diversity! This is easily the most detailed and comprehensive episode so far! Love the insight it gave into other harvests as well.
    One last thing befause my autistic brain wont let me leave this alone, but the mammoth genus is _Mammuthus_ , no o's included. Of course if this is a genus unique to Kaimere forget i said anything lol

  • @balenfalotico2283
    @balenfalotico2283 Год назад +5

    I know I’m going to enjoy this series!! This is going to definitely help me further develop the Martian portal and cradle proboscideans

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Heck yeah let’s go!!

    • @rohacha9iin40
      @rohacha9iin40 Год назад +2

      Martian portal?

    • @balenfalotico2283
      @balenfalotico2283 Год назад

      @@rohacha9iin40 my world building project!

    • @rohacha9iin40
      @rohacha9iin40 Год назад +3

      @@balenfalotico2283 I would like to read more about it, if you have any material posted anywhere

  • @thylaconical2840
    @thylaconical2840 Год назад +1

    A long video, but well worth the watch! Very well made!

  • @c0dy85
    @c0dy85 Год назад +1

    All those little island, if someone wanted to write fanfiction for Kaimere they'd provide ample settings

  • @Feranogame
    @Feranogame Год назад +1

    No way, a slight misspelling of Mammuthus, video ruined!!! Just kidding of course, this was a banger of an episode, good to see more high quality as usual content coming! Damn I love Kaimere

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Haha yeah a couple folks pointed that out 💀 luckily there’s time to change it for the mammoth profile next week!

  • @VincentEdelstein
    @VincentEdelstein Год назад

    Oh this is epic

  • @Paracanthus
    @Paracanthus Год назад +1

    I really like this episode. Elephants are some of my favourite groups of animals ever, they're just fascinating in how they evolved due to their habitat. I would like to be completely honest with you, Kaimere is a really well made and interesting project, but I sort of wish it wasn't another world based heavily off of prehistory that was once again ruled by reptiles. I'd have liked to see an equal footing between mammals and reptiles, especially considering how adaptable mammals can be at least compared to reptiles. I don't meant to say one group is better than the others, just saying that it would be more unique. But I do not mean to completely shit on this project, again it is truly great. The drawings are fantastic, the life forms and cultures are creative, and videos such as these show that the world is rich and filled out.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +3

      Thanks! I guess my pushback is that I do feel they are largely on equal footing, at least within the known world, certainly in the small and middle tier niches, and mammals have several heavy hitters, especially with big herbivores. Dinosaurs, especially theropods and sauropods within their niche, could get so much larger than mammals that it would feel disingenuous to say that for example tigers and 8-ton theropods are in any way competitive with each other. If I gave too many advantages to mammals, favoring them in contextual ways like cooler or wetter climates making titanosaurs and therefore open forests for big theropods rare, it would just end up feeling too much like our own timeline, and if I bend things to be too similar, it takes away a lot of the appeal of an alternative prehistory vibe this gives.

    • @Paracanthus
      @Paracanthus Год назад +1

      @@TalesofKaimere Oh, well that's fair honestly. Yeah, I was aware mammalian and dinosaurian sizes could never compete due to multiple factors. To me the universe just seemed like mammals picking up archosaurian scraps, but I was probably just reading into it wrong.

  • @Horrendous347
    @Horrendous347 Год назад

    One of the best videos of Kaimere by far

  • @rohacha9iin40
    @rohacha9iin40 Год назад

    I enjoyed every second of it!

  • @ryanchen1819
    @ryanchen1819 Год назад +1

    9:02 Of course as on Earth, the largest land mammal is (though maybe arguably) a proboscidean.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      Indeed. Consultants I spoke with had some varying opinions on the matter, so I didn't want to outright side one way or the other. Paraceratherium is the biggest consensus and P. namadicus may well be an outlier. Hopefully more specimens will illuminate the situation further!

  • @timothystuedemann5390
    @timothystuedemann5390 Год назад +2

    A strategy keeps running through my head. An elephant phalanx of multiple animals might be effective. a predator knocks away one set of tusks to be jabbed by another animal. The megaraptoran grapple would be ineffective if it can't close the distance.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Could work, and is likely what a group of Drenduga employ. However, this is unlikely to be a consistently reliable tactic. Each elephant has to trust that no other companion will break the line. Considering how skittish elephants are known to be, this couldn’t be counted on. If the others bolt, and the one grabbed fails to fend it off, it could be over quick. Again, it might work and as I will discuss in the Drenduga episode they do successfully gang up sometimes, but avoidance is often a much wiser act.

  • @Bullmooseroughrider
    @Bullmooseroughrider Год назад

    Best video so far.

  • @shingtiong9425
    @shingtiong9425 Год назад +2

    My comment got deleted.Goddammit.Anyways I love this episode and elephants are also one you of my favorite animals.I feel like mastodons amd and oliphants are getting gaslighted.At least they still have some survivors.

  • @planetobjeciaoureturns2914
    @planetobjeciaoureturns2914 Год назад +1

    On Objecia, elephants can be located on several continents. The largest being the the mega elephant.

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +2

    This was really a AMAZING episode ! Really, for a first episode of this mini-serie, it hit HARD !
    Nice job Keenan ! 10/10
    My ONLY NITPICK, however, will be that you seem to refers, at the beginning, at 1:00, and some moments throughout the episode, true Elephants as only exclusively the Elephantidae family, the only surviving family.
    But in reality, and at the opossite of what several others people such Artbyjrc and some others on DeviantArt, some sources on the Net online or on RUclips, want to make others believe, "True Elephants" are all the members and families include in the "Elephantimorpha" order.
    Elephantidae are true elephants, but they are "Modern Elephants".
    "Modern" or "Extant Elephants" is names exclusive to this latter family, to made them reconizable easily from the others families.
    While the others families, Mastodons (Mammutidae), Stegodons (Stegodontidae, aka Lance Tuskers), Amebelodontid (Shovel-Tuskers), Gomphoteres (Gomphoteridae) and Anacidae and Choerolophodontidae (another two more obscure groups) are "True Elephants" as well, but "Archaic Elephants".
    "Archaic Elephants" is a term to refer to any members of the Elephantimorpha who aren't in the Elephantidae family.
    Some people said and think that Archaic elephants aren't true elephants, but there no reasons to think that, giving that they have all of them all the traits that define what an elephant is.
    That mean =
    1 - Big and robust, animal, whith four robust legs,
    2 - two main pairs of (developped/evolved) upper tusks
    3 - and a (developped/evolved) prehensile and maniable trunk.
    (and it's all, the definition of what is an elephant is very simple in the first place, so saying that elephants aren't elephants because they aren't part of the Elephantidae family is a very dumb argument to begin with, in final).
    All the Elephantimorpha have these traits. So they are all True Elephants as such.
    And the traits that made aparts each families (such the forms and shape of the tusks, the ones of the head, and their molar teeth mainly) are too subtiles and smalls to justifiate to consider them as "Not True Elephants".
    After all, for comparision, every species in the genus Homo are "True Humans" as than H. sapiens, but with use the term of "Archaic human" to differentiate them from our own species, H. sapiens, which it, have the name/term of "Modern Human" exclusive to it, to made it clearly apart from the others species of the same genus, and to avoid confusions.
    (you yourself use the term of Archaic human in the episode in question).
    However, in the episode, It's also posible that you refer to all of these families as "True Elephants" in reality, since you said that Proboscidean, as an order, is only composed now by elephants, while this order also had several lineages of animals (Moeritheridae, Numitheridae, Barytheridae) that weren't at all elephants.
    (So, in that case, I missunderstood).
    Yet, it's worth it to mention that Deinotherium and cie (Deinotheridae) weren't True Elephants at all !
    Because they aren't part of the Elephantimorpha order, but from the sister order, the Plesielephantiformes !
    And their elephant-like shape is only due to convergent evolution.
    In truth, these infos are very important to take into account, because there really many huges missconceptions who aren't true that many people have still in modern days on them.
    Yet, outside that, that was a very good epiosde and introduction to this mini-series ! :)

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      I stand by my decision to mean the family of modern elephants with that statement. I feel it helps to underscore the sheer diversity of the group.

    • @dudotolivier6363
      @dudotolivier6363 Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere Understandable.
      Was just a small precision.
      And just a pure personnal opinion.
      Technically, even by saying they are all True Elephants despite they were very differents from one family to another, in final, the results are the same.
      That made people realised that elephants were very diverses in head and tusks shapes, niches, ecology and sizes anyway.
      If you personnally think you that it's the better way to present them, so ok, go for that.
      It's you the expert anyway.
      But otherwise, you did really well this episode ! 👍😊

  • @BobBob-tr7wi
    @BobBob-tr7wi Год назад +2

    .....my proboscian friends.....the world.....is unforgiving.....you are not the untouchable mountains from Earth....no. Now, now you live in the land of true giants. Simply another behemoth.....and yet. You will persist. Whether it be by shrinking and being stout dwarves, or using your minds and hearts to take care of one another. YOU. WILL. PERSIST.

  • @4dultw1thj0b
    @4dultw1thj0b Год назад

    Aw the tiny mammoths are so cute :D

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад

      Glad you like em because they’re all featured next week!

    • @4dultw1thj0b
      @4dultw1thj0b Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere I bet they would make great companion animals!

  • @kobijuankonobe7403
    @kobijuankonobe7403 Год назад +1

    Question for you since it does seem like the South American harvest that brought in animals such as ground sloths, notoungulates, and glyptodonts seemed to have had an edge over other mammals harvested as they had to deal with terror birds who play a pretty similar role, if not nearly exact(except for size of course compared to the drakes) to the therapods of kaimere, if there were say a hypothetical harvest from Florida, and the southeast US that happened say around 2 million years ago, how would the animals from that time fair with being thrown into Kaimere, and how might it shake up the ecology compared to what happened ?

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 Год назад

    cool video

  • @ryanchen1819
    @ryanchen1819 Год назад +1

    I find it interesting that there is barely a shred of mention of the mega abelisaurs, dromaeosaurs, and entelodonts in this since in your 1st megaraptoran video, you said that the herbivores of Ni'Khar were accustomed to fending off attacks from these predators prior to the arrival of Arvelith megaraptorans.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      Indeed, though they were all in Kairul, while this episode is mostly focused on Ni’Khar, which had megaraptorans instead.

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад

      The most recent mention a focused the three other kairul mega predators got was in bokodus video

  • @MrT_Rex
    @MrT_Rex Год назад +2

    22:14 and they did it again...

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +2

    Question : the very original "Tuga" and it's design will be reused, as one of the numerous species of Tugas that exist inside the Known World or not ?

  • @grubbinvgm
    @grubbinvgm Год назад +2

    Idk if you've ever covered it before, but I've always wondered about Homo erectus and other early human species in Kaimere. Did they die out before modern Kaimerans or First People showed up? In the alt-hist spec-evo story I've been working on over the past few years, this is an issue I keep having to come back to -- there's tons of ways for them to survive up to the modern day, but I almost don't want them to, because I know homo sapiens (being homo sapiens) would quickly either genocide them or enslave them or do something horrible.

  • @timothystuedemann5390
    @timothystuedemann5390 Год назад +1

    An interesting idea is to have one elephant species get lucky. Some of the first children decided to play pranks on predators first using magic on some birds and trained them to nest in the mammoth fur. Second they shaped the tusks to low and curved so that they can't be easily swepted away so when attacked at the raising of the head traps the predator's flanks. The second set of shorter tusks still on the head drive themselves into the predators chest. A third set of tusks on the lower jaw curve up to protect the forehead. Third the birds like this arrangement so much that they even start defending their new homes on legs the start defending the elephants. The first children start changing the beaks of the small birds to cut through dino skin. Last the birds were trained to attack from behind. Now as long as no one attacks the elephants the First children(Fae) can eat there picnics dino free.

  • @miquelescribanoivars5049
    @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +2

    The First Chidren really seemed to have it out for the Mastodon's, didn't they? 🤣

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Yeah they did lol

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад

      They also had it out for any creature that they thought would be a inocveince to them or scary

  • @11Legorex
    @11Legorex Год назад +1

    Forest Gompotheres, nice

  • @helenajakobsen6220
    @helenajakobsen6220 Год назад +1

    30 minutes of elephants!

  • @taliesincoleman6569
    @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад

    24:06
    "house grass had arrived"
    BUM, BUM, BUM!
    *dramatic reverb*
    given how agressive and competitive this grass is...
    kinda makes me wonder what would happen if a few of them
    accidentally landed on earth and began to grow in africa.

  • @dariusrose9909
    @dariusrose9909 Год назад +2

    Hell Yeah. Do I email you if I want to sponsor an episode. I think I want to do the Komu (giant dromaesaur) the Titatikk(Abelisaurid)

  • @Feranogame
    @Feranogame Год назад

    IS THAT METERS IM HEARING? I LOVE YOU KEENAN

  • @Archosaur_Dominion
    @Archosaur_Dominion Год назад

    Elephants yeeess!

  • @drthomas06
    @drthomas06 Год назад

    nice video man!!!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Heck yeah!!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @drthomas06
      @drthomas06 Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere also just want to say you are one of the 3 people who inspired me to do spec evo and I appreciate that Thank you!

  • @praetorianrex5571
    @praetorianrex5571 10 месяцев назад +1

    There any exotic materials found in Kaimere?

  • @koopajuniorsavannah5170
    @koopajuniorsavannah5170 Год назад +2

    I thought they were extinct to be honest but this is cool

  • @ryanchen1819
    @ryanchen1819 Год назад +1

    Aside from American mastodons and Columbian mammoths, what other proboscideans came through the interrupted harvest?

  • @ananslator3655
    @ananslator3655 Год назад +4

    Do you know what you should do you should gather some friends or People you know and do a role-playing game based on Kaimere and the players are humans or kaimereings from kaimere Think of it like the dungeons and dragons world but it’s kaimere if characters in the stories or books do of kaimere work perhaps this will work to

  • @tycoonraptor7052
    @tycoonraptor7052 Год назад

    LET'S GO KAIMERIAN ELEPHANTS (Again?)

  • @Loshko86
    @Loshko86 Год назад

    i liked this imaginary documentary :]

  • @liambrandley2716
    @liambrandley2716 Год назад +1

    Would elephants have fared better if megaratorans weren't the apex predators? How well would they have done against tyrannosaurs or abelisaurs?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Probably would have fared better, but it’s a different angle I would have had to consider and explore

  • @aeyelashbug6311
    @aeyelashbug6311 7 месяцев назад

    Damn it, there's people in this one too

  • @ryanchen1819
    @ryanchen1819 Год назад

    How did zygolophodon interact with dinosaurs (and bear dogs and entelodonts)?

  • @thejurassicking916
    @thejurassicking916 Год назад

    Are there any surviving placaderms in Kaimere? I would think Dunleosteus would’ve gone extinct but did any other take a similar role. Filling a niche similar to large sharks (by earth standards, medium predator by Kaimere standards). If so could you do an episode on those?

    • @user-hu7qs7cp1u
      @user-hu7qs7cp1u 9 месяцев назад

      Mabey, the fist harvest was Devonian if I recall correctly, so possibly.

  • @andrearossi6953
    @andrearossi6953 Год назад +1

    OGM Is this the longest video of the entire history of this Channel?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      It's gotta be up there! Think some of my Q&A's may have been longer but those were a much different format

  • @barger5329
    @barger5329 9 месяцев назад

    Hey just here me out for an idea for kaimere giant marine Spinosaurids outside of the known world

  • @ryanchen1819
    @ryanchen1819 6 месяцев назад

    4:32 You said that the first Kaimeran gomphotheres from North America went to Kairul. What happened to those gomphotheres?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  6 месяцев назад +2

      Time will tell. I have future plans but as they aren't finalized and people don't like it when I make changes to this work in progress, I'm trying to not go public with things that may be altered. They aren't retcons since the only true canon are things mentioned in the books, but people keep calling them retcons and getting riled about it so I'm pulling back on what I discuss openly

  • @taliesincoleman6569
    @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад

    DARN YOU HUMANS!

  • @lb540
    @lb540 Год назад +1

    Are pseudois, or protovis present in kaimere, or are their niches filled other specialists?
    Does their niche even exist in kaimere, hows the habitat in at 4 to 6,5 kilometers above sea level?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Not sure about the presence of that genus specifically, but there may be relatives, they might be present, but there are protoceratopsids currently slated for it or something similar.

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад

      Bighorned sheep

    • @lb540
      @lb540 Год назад

      ​@@rylanbrewer3320 Bighorn sheep dont range higher than around 2500 meters because of their respiratory tract.

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад

      Do you think bighorned sheep have a chance on akiemre

  • @Iterator_NSH
    @Iterator_NSH Год назад +1

    22:20 is this what people call karma?

  • @thephilosoraptor8565
    @thephilosoraptor8565 Год назад +1

    4:08 Am i seeing this right? A south american harvest *other* than the 6 million years one?
    When did this happen??? What animals were harvested?
    This has made me excited and a little confused

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      Yup! Was first mentioned in the monkey episode I believe. It was responsible for a lot more flora than fauna, but some animals did come over at that too. A number of sloths, such as the Simiomorphs, were harvested at this time

    • @thephilosoraptor8565
      @thephilosoraptor8565 Год назад

      @@TalesofKaimere Ohhh that must've been the one that brought all the new world monkeys then.
      Come to think of it, an earlier South American harvest was mentioned in the terror bird episode but I just brushed it off
      Neat! How else has the timeline of harvests since the Dynastic Extinction changed since the first portal video?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      @@thephilosoraptor8565 None have changed. I haven't added any harvests since the portal video, just not all of them were mentioned. I think I did include them all at the end of the episode, though! At least all the post-Dynastic Extinction harvests. Don't think I'll ever set the Mesozoic harvests in stone since there's no practical way for the Assembly to pin it to a date that far back, just a general 'there was a Maastrictian harvest in Asia' for example.

    • @ryanchen1819
      @ryanchen1819 Год назад

      Same time as the North Atlantic one?

  • @hinskiemaso9198
    @hinskiemaso9198 Год назад

    So in short african elephant coused extinction of best adapted Kaimeran large Proboscidean that otherwise would probably adapted to new setting?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +1

      Haha sort of. There were a lot of other unfortunately coinciding factors, but yes, African elephants were one of those factors

  • @taliesincoleman6569
    @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад

    22:29
    oh dear.... i feel this might be a form of karma

  • @user-hu7qs7cp1u
    @user-hu7qs7cp1u 10 месяцев назад

    Did the Sebecids get harvested in the Miocene Southe American harvest and are any still extant?

    • @Stooltoad5017
      @Stooltoad5017 10 месяцев назад

      As far as I am aware, they did not get harvested. The Permian Islands have a large land crocodile called the Boar Croc that looks somewhat similar to a Sebecid.

    • @Stooltoad5017
      @Stooltoad5017 4 месяца назад

      My comment aged very poorly. Sebecids are indeed in Kaimere.

  • @angelopeloso9011
    @angelopeloso9011 Год назад

    0:11 Tremortusk!?

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +2

    !!!!! Attention ! : At 20:43, you made a Mistake !
    It's Asian Elephants who lived and become extinct in the Northern warm Arvel forest region, at Mya, not Stegodon(tid) species population !
    The true sentence, as written in the DeviantArt post "Proboscideans 1.5-0.7 mya" is : "Asian elephants holding out in Arvel’s warm northern forests, however, went extinct during this time, seemingly due to forest oliphaunt competition."
    All mainland stegodontid became extinct way before, somewhere in the Anchored Period between 5.5-1.5 Mya , as mentionned at 18:21.
    It's was first the species/population living in the Highland of Arvel that became extinct first when the Titanosaurs came in this place when the climate was warmer, then the remaining mainland population of stegodontid somewhere after the first one.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Год назад +2

      Then Stegodont itself was harvested at the same time as Asian elephants. I may not have been clear, but it was not a mistake.

    • @dudotolivier6363
      @dudotolivier6363 Год назад +1

      @@TalesofKaimere Ohhh... Yes, It's true I remember this fact.
      I forget it !
      So, yes, it's true, in that case, there no mistake, just a missundertanding from mine.
      Sorry so.

  • @Ligerbee
    @Ligerbee Год назад

    I wonder what an Elephent would look like without a trunk

    • @Andrey.Ivanov
      @Andrey.Ivanov Год назад

      Cursed. Also eating would definitely be a lot more inconvenient, as with no appendage for putting food directly in the mouth, tusks would constantly get in the way.

    • @Ligerbee
      @Ligerbee Год назад

      @@Andrey.Ivanov Im gonna draw one

    • @Andrey.Ivanov
      @Andrey.Ivanov Год назад

      ​@@Ligerbee I quickly sketched one out and I can confirm that it's cursed 😂

    • @Ligerbee
      @Ligerbee Год назад

      @@Andrey.Ivanov I agree after drawling one.

    • @jacoblewis5230
      @jacoblewis5230 Год назад

      What about an elephant with two trunks, one per nostril like the Loxo from D&D?

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 Год назад

    🗿👍🏿