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How To Hide A Lav Microphone | Filmmaker's Guide to Wireless Lavalier Microphones
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Our lav hiding masterclass is finally here! Location sound mixer Ben Quiles joins Andrew from Deity Microphones to go over 10 different outfits and how you can hide lavaliers in all of them! This is a comprehensive video because we show you how to hide lavs AND how to hide the bodypack transmitter! So if you're curious about how to use a lavalier microphone, this is the video for you.
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:30 How To Hide A Lavalier on a Suit and Business Attire
4:30 How To Hide A Lavalier on a T-Shirt
6:40 How To Hide A Lavalier on a Sweatshirt
8:18 How To Use A Lavalier
10:30 Hiding A Lav On A Yoga Outfit
13:03 Hide A Microphone On An Athlete
14:57 Hide A Microphone On A Sports Bra
17:31 How to Hide A Microphone On a Dress Shirt
18:47 Concealing A Lavalier in a Woman's Dress
20:47 Outro
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From the basics to advanced techniques, we cover it all! Location sound mixers of all skill levels will learn something from this video. Business, casual, lazy, clubbing, workout clothes. There is no challenge too great. And most importantly this is a gaff tape free video! We only show you the real techniques used daily by industry professionals working on the backlots of Hollywood's greatest movies and TV shows.
Not only do we hide the lav mics themselves, but we hide the wires, the transmitter bodypacks and everything in between. Moleskin, medical tape, URSA foamies, tto Ursa transmitter straps, Joes sticky and Rycote Stickies all come into play as we tackle our biggest video yet. When it comes to hiding lavaliers and radio mics we have you covered.
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What's the most challenging outfit you've come across?
Naked man, just joking, havent faced any cursed outfit yet 🥺
perreterecon if I’ve learned anything from Deity Microphones, the answer is “when in doubt, moleskin sandwich out.”
Desmond MacNamara yep, used to use stickies and moleskin rolls, but that sandwitchs looks quite effective.
perreterecon it’s all thanks to our boy Andrew “moleskin sandwich” Jones.
Deity Microphones The hardest i've done was a designers dress made of a beads
It'd be interesting to actually hear how these placements sounded.
They make it sound easy, but my experience on the set is that suits and when you try to place it on ties and stiff/starchy fabrics it always make crinkle noise and lavs pick it up no matter how you lav it on the body. Also i avoid putting any adhesive products on mic heads like moleskin, joe sticky stuff because mic can pick up pealing noise from adhesive. i like using products like hide a mic mounts and ursa mic mounts that create distances from mic and body/clothing.
This...
@@jaimefish173 I agree, most of these setups would resort in pretty devastating clothing rustle.
Yeah, especially with the microphone so far from the mouth in all the female examples.
Same here
I would've loved to hear real audio out of the actors after rigging the mics. Great video.
Yes, and also the effects of movement and the relative tradeoffs of each microphone setup technique both acoustically and clothing interference.
Rock solid, helpful info!
Curtis Judd You guys should do some colab together - Curtis Judd + Deity = will be interesting!
Btw Curt - I’m your big fan!
@@SlavaVeres Thanks! Maybe if I made my way to LA, Andrew would do a video with me? 😉
This guy
Great stuff as always Andrew. I think it would be good to SHOW these unusual placements . Many, many videos and sound people talk about placing lavs in the hair, under a hat, wig, ear, and so on - the unusual places, but none I've seen show how, and more importantly record the actual dialog so you can her the differences, and, how to match these different sources. OK...that was a lot. :)
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Greatly appreciate the nuggets of knowledge.
Thanks for demonstrating and emphasizing the ongoing communication with the talent. Seems like a very important aspect of this process.
Hands down, the best video I've seen for hiding lav microphones!
Great work Andrew! Thank you for showcasing so many cool techniques! Great to see the URSA Straps & Pouches in action. Love the moleskin sandwich too :)
This video was sooo useful! I would love to hear examples of how each of these set ups actually sound like. Maybe on the next video? Great job guys!
Great advice, and awesome communication skills from the sound tech.
So refreshing to see these types of videos helping improve the quality of a craft we all love! The area that interests me the most (and hopefully many others) for your next video would be the use of lavs on talent outdoors in windy conditions. This could be wearing many layers of clothing, big jackets, on a boat, riding a bike etc. Thanks again for the channel. Whatever the next tip is I’ll be watching!
This video has been on my Watch Later playlist for a while now, and I was going to skip it but I'm glad I didn't. I found this video very informative and I learned a lot.
again a big thank you to Deity and Andrew for coming up with this video, very very useful for budding production sound mixers. Would love to see more in depth and elaborate videos on the same topic as getting your production sound right is one of the most important ingredients of any film. Would be helpful if you can make a video on the different sound accessories that we use on location and their purpose like hush heels, blankets, rubber mats etc.
Love that you guys are sharing this info! I would be interested to see a video of how you may match/ blend your lavs and boom in post production.
This is a great primer for hiding mics. Wow! So much to consider.
Capturing foley clips would be a very useful video.
Omg thank you for providing the one video I've always wanted but have been too embarrassed to ask for
Excellent tutorial! Seriously one of the most thorough ones I've seen on how to place lavs.
Idea for the next video: Take us through the choices you make for a scene from scouting to wrap including acoustic treatment, planning your plant mics, concealing cables, boom placement and shadow control, etc. (Might be a good interview video in which you talk to a couple of location sound mixers so we get different perspectives on each of the choices.)
What wasn't covered was taping down the first foot of cable coming from where the cable joins the mic. This is the most challenging task of avoiding clothing rustle since this area of the cable is very sensitive to noise.
I needed this. I would love to see a video where you follow the sound department on set during a scene to see how they put all this into practice. A short "on-set experience" that shows everything from the prep, to the placement, to the scene itself, and how it all sounds in the final edit. Maybe do a couple different scenes as well like a dinner table, a car interior, a busy city street, an action/fight scene etc. Seeing a professional prepare for a scene and then execute would be extremely useful! If there are any issues to clean up in post as well that would be great to see.
Love this! I’ve seen too many tutorials where the talent they use to show how they attach the lav is wearing clothing that’s relatively easy to work with, but that’s never real life for me because I mostly shoot on short notice and a small production (no costume dep.). That being said, I’d love to see some tutorials on more run-and-gun audio setups whether that be the gear to use, how to pack it all, how to set up, or whatever you guys think would be useful! Thanks!
I love that you guys aren't just about selling your (really awesome) products. (I own the Deity Connect System, myself) I love that your videos are all about learning the art of sound in video, getting beginners to learn how the pros do it. It's even great that you're showing how your products can be used in tandem with non-Deity products. Really effective.
Great stuff! This was a really great brush-up for me.
It could be really valuable to do a video about setting audio for events. Stuff like using splitters to get a feed right off of a podium mic when you don't have access to a house board, or how to set your levels if you have the opportunity for a sound-check. I know a video like that would have helped me quite a bit when I was first starting out in the wedding game.
Fantastic work everyone!
Always so so good! I’d love to get tips on car interiors. Thanks!
Great content dudes! Congrats!
Great thorough info, thanks!
Great video, love it. keeping me entertained while I get the car fixed. Would love to see a video (or series) on building a sound cart and the choices going into it.
Great video Andrew!
Learned a lot thanks for this :)
Completely GREAT!!!!
Great video! 👍🏻👍🏻
such a helpful video !
Finally a dedicated video that just lays it down! Thank you!
Also the next video idea “How to edit dialogue audio that’s recorded on a lav mic both indoor controlled environment and outdoor busy noise area”
Home run! I think I’ve watched every RUclips video on the subject and this one was the best! Thank you! As for suggestions... I’d be interested in seeing how sound guys use vampire clips.
awesome! needed this vid!
A good idea for a next video would be to show the workflow of a large scale production. Great video by the way. Its always nice to find instructional videos like this.
Deity always delivers the best lessons to go with the best tools!
Next video... How do you make a LAV sound identical to a shotgun in post?
Keep doin it Deity... Send me that transmitter system!
this i great. thanks for this film audio solution
great video this will definitely help
Great video! I think a good idea for your next video would be on foley recording. We focus a lot on dialog recording, and as essential as good production sound is, the addition of all the sounds of other physical elements that characters interact with can really bring a film to life. Some techniques and information on the dark art of Foley would be a welcomed addition to this already excellent channel. Thanks again!
love the humoristic sans! And as always a great video!
Are we listing to the Deity Connect
Hi there!
I'm still new to videography, doing mostly freelance work and RUclips content (no experience on real sets). I came across your product (the V-mic D3 Pro) because I was looking to upgrade my shotgun mic, n' I saw a few recommendations on RUclips. For someone like me, who does a lot of low-budget shooting, it would be really useful to understand the in's and out's of using the V-mic D3 Pro. I think a lot of newbies like me would love knowing how to set a low cut limiter, what audio recorders to pair the mic with, etc, all before receiving the product.
Thanks a lot for the high quality videos. Just the right amount of info and amazingly--no filler!! :D
Great video as always. As I wait for the Deity Connect to ship, I'm gonna invest in a bunch of URSA Straps products, haha. I'd love to see more videos about creative ways of plant mics using D3 and Connect together. I know you've done a plant mic video before, but there are so many possibilities with that combo.
Wow - the best video on this.. ever. I think your next video should be on matching mics when you have 2 different mics on people for a scene, how to make them sound similar.
Thanks for making this
I think a video about how to handle multiple input sources at a time might be helpful. Sometimes I find myself trying to record a boom as well as a few lavs. Great video too - learned a ton!
Very good information - really opened my eyes to more possibilities!! I think a video on marking tracks & takes would be beneficial...
well explained, thx
Great informational video, this is by far the most comprehensive look at hiding lav mics that I've seen on RUclips! It would be really cool to see a video about event audio. I shoot a lot events, and it's difficult to decide what mic to use (e.g. lav, shotgun, wireless, external recorder, etc.) and where to put it when I don't have access to plug into the audio board. It's especially difficult to capture sound when there are many presenters who walk around when I don't have the time or resources to mic each presenter. Keep up the good work!
> "lav, shotgun, wireless, external recorder, etc."
If you have someone to dedicate to audio (which you should! And if not, push for the budget for it) then naturally they should have a dedicated recorder.
As for lavs vs boom mic.
"Boom is King"
But too often camera dept / director / producers put you into very tough spots where it is impossible to get good sound on the boom, thus you should always be running lavs as well for insurance as your "get out of jail" card
@@SoundSpeeding Thank you for the advice. the problem is I mostly do event videos for non-profits who do not have the budget to even higher me at my normal price. Usually it's just me filming a few presenters on a stage, and the final delivery is a simple two angle video of each of the presenters.
It help so much!
Great video.
Thanks for making this!
I love these tutorials! What I would like to see is how you match the audio between a lav and boom or even more generally just matching different mics. It feels like mine come out sounding like different video clips that don’t quite match up in post look 😬
How to make natural-sounding ADR (and probably what ADR is)!
We've all had moments when the sound didn't turn out just right, so how do you replace it so that you don't have to have an expensive reshoot, but also sound natural with the other recordings that sound good?
record with the same shotgun or lavalier mics that they use in production. EQ if necessary
Wow great video very informative. I would love to see a video on how to boom from shot to shot so they match in post. 👍🔥
You guys are giving me more ideas than I can make up problems!
:D
Good Stuff! Thank you.
Good info. Thanks.
This was a great rundown. I clearly need to invest in plenty of straps! I'd be really interested to see a video on how to balance big fluctuations in recording levels, like dialogue that jumps from whispers to yells, with possible sudden background noise like door slams, smashed glass, gunshots.
I enjoyed the show. Love from Mt everest.
so informative. For sweats and thin t-shirts...I use the ankle belt and run the mic all the way up to the sternum...in case the t-shirt comes off or is blowing in wind. the pants are usually fairly thick
Great video
Thanks, cool vid!
This was my biggest struggle, but not any more. Thank you guys
so glad you found it helpful :)
Awesome video! I would love to see a break down of popular video/movies and go over mic placement compared to BTS of the video/movie.
I would love to see a video about different tension releases. I feel like there are plenty of times where my placement is great and everything is totally hidden, but without a tension release, you can have so many problems.
Also can't wait for the deity connect to be released! I know all these little teasers means we're almost there (hopefully).
Great video, the sportswear and dinnerware were especially helpful. I'd love to see one on outterware (love shooting on the snow, parkas and winterware can be hard, and noisy).
How about a video geared towards SFX recording? Thanks as always!
VERYYYY insightful...thank you! Subb'd
Wonderful demonstrations... would like to see a suggested list of what to have for the lav kit (moleskin, tapes, straps, etc) accessories.
i love this channel and thanks a lot, being pro is amazing.
would be nice a program about hydrophones and the best equipment to work at the sea. soundscaping also!
applying for my own lavs :)
Thx, great video, I get a difficult time finding the correct word in english, but I found everything a lot of interesting.
It would be very interesting in how to dial in the lav's volume on your recorder for each position and with all the different placement styles of a lav, because everything would sound different (or am I totally wrong?). Can't wait to see it!
Great video! I use many of these techniques. One thing you guys didn't cover that I've heard about: using a foamie to separate the transmitter antenna from the skin. The idea is to prevent perspiration on the skin from affecting the radio signal. Have you found this to be an issue?
My suggestion for an upcoming video is "Frequency Management and Coordination Best Practices" because beyond scanning every location, I'm not sure what I can do as a mixer to get a clean band. Thank you!
Great tips guys! Especially the sportswear section, had a shoot not too long ago where I had trouble with the placement of the transmitter and the actors blocking. I'd love to see a video on based on timecode (and possibly genlock) if not, routing for things like comteks etc.
Thigh or ankle mount is handy if you're struggling to hide a TX on an outfit
Thanks for your insights! A video about safely transporting maintaining and storing gear would be great. Seen too many lavs put away covered in actor juices.
Thank you so much
I’d love to see a video about managing/working with audio tracks in post, or even a behind the scenes video of setting up/working on sound on a real set.
I'd love to see a follow up to this video looking at how to best avoid clothes ruffle noises. I've used most of the methods you showed here and very often I still get noise from clothes moving. So would love to see how you overcome that and perhaps some examples? You showed how to setup the lavs, but we didn't hear what they sounded like.
Thanks.
Hi great video. I’d like to see a video how you implement your range of mics and lavs in different scenarios. And how they differ from each other and which mics suit which acoustic rooms or sound spaces eg. Loud or quiet, inside, outside scenarios and give examples on how to use them in a real time work flow. Thanks.
Awesome video. Mahalo. What I would like to see brah is a video detailing and showing on a set how the slate and audio recorders synch timecode.
I liked this video and it turned from 3.1K to 2.1K :D
Amazing.
Awesome video! I’d love to see a video for smaller 1-2 man crews. What would you suggest when you don’t have a dedicated sound mixer? Are there any smaller recording devices you recommend? Any suggestions for recording straight to camera? Stuff like that. Thanks!
I really like your channel and I have a V3 for run and gun, I do a lot of voice over for work, so seeing a video on how best to do this would be great and which of your products would best for this :)
next video should be about the Deity wireless kit review in detail.
A video in deciding when someone uses a lav and using a boom or other placements? That would be great! Thanks for your videos absolutely 🔥🔥🔥
Always use boom if possible! Boom is King
But use lavs at the same time, as back up insurance
Mind blown lol. Honestly never knew how to mic people up until now lol. Thank you!
I have an interesting question; How would you go about to capture animals (like for example in live action) or even capturing weather maybe? Preparing for the worst lol.
I'd really like to see a video about how to hide larger lav mics. My high school theatre only has the big Audio Technica lav mics. These videos have been a great help, keep em coming!
Hey Argo, how big we talking? The lav in the video is 6mm in diameter. A lot of the tips shown are universal. Some lavs you just can't hide though.
It would be cool to see a video about when to use all the different kinds of microphones.
Hands-on examples like in this video would be great for this aswell.
Make the next video about RF distribution i would love to know more about RF singles and how they work. Also i would love to see movement test to see how good the mics sound in each outfit.
Using long range antennas and multiple Rx and tx in the Daity connect !
I know you guys already covered recording audio outdoors, but I'd love to see a video on how to record audio in situations where there is challenging background audio such as waterfalls, construction, traffic, etc! Inquiring minds would looooove to know. Thanks!
Thank you for making this! I had to wing it on my last short film and the audio didn't turn out the best. I think I may end up having to do ADR. I would find great use from an episode on how to record good ADR and foley on a low/no budget. Foley is probably my weakest area so far.
I learned a few tricks in this video, now I would love to see how you set up a studio with all your mics how and where to put them?
Best setup (mic/wind screen/accessories) for capturing your own foley!
Great information and tutorial. Can you make a video about getting realistic off screen sound and dialogue?
What I love about a lot of these tips is that a lot of them can be done using inexpensive household items like moleskin. I personally would love to see a video on how to capture (acoustic) stage performances. I'm often asked to record stage plays where the actors aren't mic-ed up and where they are constantly moving across the stage. How could I capture the best possible audio in this scenario and what types of microphones should I use.
Can i get one of them
Awesome video. I'd love to learn how to capture sound at a distance. For example. Sports standing on the sidelines trying to get clean audio from what's happening 15-20 yards away from the mic.
Desert/ Open field dialogue but maybe no place for a lav or plant mic.