Being familiar with older overhead cam Hondas and Toyotas, I can say that a QUALITY belt will easily last over 150K miles. With that being said, it is wise to check the belt condition (and honestly just change the belt for preventative maintenance) at 100K miles or 10 years. Time matters too.
Good video, but wet belts from Ford and PSA, are worse, complicated to handle and different to judge... just way more stuff to consider for a further video. "older" cambelts, no worry no hurry😊, 60k or 6 yrs, are plenty of time
You can see the belt in the PSA engines from the engine oil filler cap. Then measure if belt is degrading too from there. Seems even easier than a normal timing belt to me!
I am interested to see your comments on timing chains. I tore into my passed down 04 Accord with the K24A1 from my father to reseal the timing chain cover and oil pan. He kept records on all the maintenance done to the car and he kept an average 6k mi oil change interval. The engine was spotless inside, and the chain had not stretched much at all (4 visible notches on the tensioner, I believe the unit has ~12 total) at 170k.
Chains are very different from one engine model to another. If it's a Kia or Hyundai, for example, better change it at 50-60k miles. Honda will most likely last the entire life of the engine. So, it's important to go to forums and see what people say about the chain in the certain engine.
@CarAraC I have heard people talk about the K24 series stretching chains, so I was unsure what I would find after popping off the front cover. If I had to guess, the chains stretching would be from people following the factory recommender 10k mile oil change interval on these engines, sadly. But I have not seen as many people complaining about chain stretch in the K20 motors of this time frame.
I own the CR-V with K24. Now 150K miles, no rattling. But I think I will look at the chain the next time I will change the oil. Maybe even replace it to avoid the worst.
Timing chains are lubricated by engine oil. If you follow that 10,000 mile/annual oil change, it could "stretch" by design. If you get an older car with a chain, the condition is unknown seeing how it's "hard" to change oil twice a year.
No calculations no science and give a number if i asked you after you forget but in a different mood you would give an other answer, So i ask you to chek the belt engenering science 🔭🧪
Just curious - what kind of science do you want under this? I see belts f..ing up engines at certain miles - I share my experience. If you don't like it - go watch some other science-covered videos.
Being familiar with older overhead cam Hondas and Toyotas, I can say that a QUALITY belt will easily last over 150K miles. With that being said, it is wise to check the belt condition (and honestly just change the belt for preventative maintenance) at 100K miles or 10 years. Time matters too.
2 Peugeot cars here and changed at 100k, belts looked fine!
Good video, but wet belts from Ford and PSA, are worse, complicated to handle and different to judge... just way more stuff to consider for a further video.
"older" cambelts, no worry no hurry😊, 60k or 6 yrs, are plenty of time
You can see the belt in the PSA engines from the engine oil filler cap. Then measure if belt is degrading too from there. Seems even easier than a normal timing belt to me!
I change my 2004 4Runner V8 timing belt every 120,000 miles. It has 239,000 miles now and runs perfectly.
There is a huge gap between any modern engine and that perfect old V8 by Toyota made with love to drivers.
So you change the timing belt every 120,000 miles and the vehicle has 239,000 miles. Youv'e changed it once then!! Maybe time to do it again!!!!
I am interested to see your comments on timing chains. I tore into my passed down 04 Accord with the K24A1 from my father to reseal the timing chain cover and oil pan. He kept records on all the maintenance done to the car and he kept an average 6k mi oil change interval.
The engine was spotless inside, and the chain had not stretched much at all (4 visible notches on the tensioner, I believe the unit has ~12 total) at 170k.
Chains are very different from one engine model to another. If it's a Kia or Hyundai, for example, better change it at 50-60k miles. Honda will most likely last the entire life of the engine. So, it's important to go to forums and see what people say about the chain in the certain engine.
@CarAraC I have heard people talk about the K24 series stretching chains, so I was unsure what I would find after popping off the front cover.
If I had to guess, the chains stretching would be from people following the factory recommender 10k mile oil change interval on these engines, sadly.
But I have not seen as many people complaining about chain stretch in the K20 motors of this time frame.
I own the CR-V with K24. Now 150K miles, no rattling. But I think I will look at the chain the next time I will change the oil. Maybe even replace it to avoid the worst.
Good video
Mine lasted 220,000 miles broke engine was toast. I only buy cars with timing chains now no belts!!
what if chains fail? same toast is offered, no?
Modern chains are also questionable - too thin and unpredictable
@@CarAraC Not questionable. Most have a chain life only slightly longer than a rubber belt but it's far more expensive and difficult to replace.
Timing chains are lubricated by engine oil. If you follow that 10,000 mile/annual oil change, it could "stretch" by design. If you get an older car with a chain, the condition is unknown seeing how it's "hard" to change oil twice a year.
So you never replaced the belt? and have now sworn off timing belts forever?
You should have replaced the belt before 220k mi if you never did
It depends on the car. Dumb video
Depends on a lot more than that.
What were you expecting in a video under 6 minutes. This is a simple discussion on timing belts
No calculations no science and give a number if i asked you after you forget but in a different mood you would give an other answer,
So i ask you to chek the belt engenering science 🔭🧪
Just curious - what kind of science do you want under this? I see belts f..ing up engines at certain miles - I share my experience. If you don't like it - go watch some other science-covered videos.