How to Lane Mid like High Immortal | Extremely Detailed Midlane Coaching
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- In this video, I will be teaching you guys to understand the laning concepts in Mid using some coaching session examples with a 3.6k MMR student. It will consist of gameplay from my perspective, followed by the analysis for the game afterwards (explaining how to view every creep kill and wave to set up for punishment using spells). You will notice patterns that are repeated in terms of how to think about the lane, whether that be you are playing a melee or ranged hero.
Hope you will enjoy the video, thank you!
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Please carry on uploading and making content. There's a lack of quality midlane content on RUclips and you are one of the best.
Theres not much mid content guide nowadays. I hope you upload more of it on the future.
No one plays mid because smurfs and boosters. Safe laners blames mid, offlaners blames mid. If you win you got carried. If you lose it's your fault.
omg, this video so good, music , coaching and the explanation is way soo gooodd, now i realize how bad i am
Played this game since release, i've always been one to watch dota educational content, going all the way back to Professor FierecE, and nearly everyone in between. You seriously create the best content i've seen in this game. VERY high level concepts that are directly applicable, immediately after watching. All explained in a very simple way that makes alot of sense. Hope you continue to do the work you have been doing.
Wonderful coach! Great method of teaching with fully describing principles! Thats great man just keep doing this
Thank you, great value. Please more of this content!
Here I am watching these as a 900 player 😂 I'm sure it will help me though. It's crazy how the "little things" at the start of the game can have such a good impact - I learn to appreciate their value more and more. It's also crazy how much a matchup can be equalized or flipped around with the skill difference of the players.. really goes to show how gamechanging these concepts are
Always respect every video you put out, Mr. Balloon. You never fail to demonstrate the simplicity in the complex game that is DOTA 2. While many like to overcomplicate and overanalyse things, you have a great way of breaking things down to their fundamental elements and conveying exactly why whatever someone is doing is either optimal or not - especially impressive with english not being your first language. Your contribution to the DOTA community is invaluable. Please keep uploading whenever life allows you to
Amazing content! Please continue creating content!
Good content balloon , just started to learn mid as a legend support player. Got destroyed at archon bracket with my spare account. This video very useful thank you 🙏🏼
Cool channel! Came across this by searching death prophet. Subbed, thanks for the knowledge... wish I studied things like this like 10 years ago haha
''hit me, hit me, punish me'' bro you sound like half of my exes.
that being said, can't wait to try this with my 600mmr turbo playing ass.
This is really impressive und a good demonstration of how skills can define the route of the game
this was so great!!! nice one, helped a lot
Liking and leaving comments to promote great dota content, thx for hard work!
Nice Video please keep Up the good Work helps a Lot 💪
This is a gold mine. Thanks!
amazing video as always!
Love your content
Man, your videos are pretty good
this was really really good dude
Great content
Nice content, I would like to see an offlane/safe lane content as well
Chill coach. Well done.
I want to see this studant progress =)
Nice! Could you do a guide for shadow fiend?
Hi, I will consider it. Shadow Fiend laning phase is just spamming razes off cooldown at the enemy and keep the stacks running. So mangoes and bottle with rune control and zoning is absolutely necessary to pick up on the hero to dominate the lane.
@@BalloonDota I did this and I won like 2 whole games in a row. Thanks, Sincerely a Herald 5
Very generous from you thank you. Keep it up coach. Great content.
Do you think any melee hero like meepo have a chance mid vs viper and huskar?
That depends on the players' difference in wave control and mechanical skill. But generally, these matchups would require that the melee heroes stack the neutral camps rather than sit in lane once the lane becomes increasingly more dangerous.
sorry if I missed it, why do we kill the creeps as quickly as possible? does keeping the wave near your tower not matter?
Hi, its to set up the creep so that you can use it to trade effectively off a spell or punish with hits on the enemy hero. It is not with intent to push the wave.
Nice Coach，always support❤
would be very helpful if u can upload carry course video
Hi, the carry role was made already in another video.
The link: ruclips.net/video/IeHHIw2NdcU/видео.html
I would like the same video in various variations of range hero vs range hero
What about range vs range? It would be cool if you could make a video for it. It is more common than range/melee
hi, the ranged vs ranged example is shown in the other Mid video I created.
The video title is: "WIN MID 100% in 5 Easy Steps"
The link is: ruclips.net/video/bPn_0e7QX9c/видео.html
Thanks!
@@BalloonDota Have just watched. Amazing video as well! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
So it's all about abusing creep equilibrium and aggro to bait opponent into bad trades. If the dance is played correctly by both players then they should both be around 40% HP after maybe 4 creep waves?
Can you make an offlane lesson too? You're videos are so good, and very easy to learn.
really good content keep doing it please! really nice job
great tutorial man, keep it up 👍
i feel like in certain matchup like ember vs arc warden or lina or even od is better to skill sleight of fist and play for securing range and harrass off cooldown
Yes, this is highly situational based on what's happening at level 1. normally you would need to save your skill until you see opportunity to either punish or secure ranged/dodge spell using sleight in the moment. What is shown in the examples are the ideal scenarios things work out the way they are supposed to work. (can guarantee 9/10 times it will be this way in lower mmr game matchups)
@@BalloonDota thank you, as usual exceptional videos, i was afraid you would not post anymore, glad to see you back! :)
@@BalloonDota thank you, as usual axceptional video!
What's the rational behind hitting full HP creeps? In what situations would you refrain from doing that?
Hi, the purpose behind hitting full hp creeps are to lower them down faster so that eventually when you trade, you will have lesser creeps doing damage to you. At the same time, it allows you to use these creeps as bait to either force the enemy to deny or give them up, which both will result in punishment being done to them. In short, it hastens everything you can do in lane.
Thank you bro@@BalloonDota
great content! amazing
amazing video SIr
Make videos for ranged vs ranged too. That would be good.
hi, the ranged vs ranged example is shown in the other Mid video I created.
The video title is: "WIN MID 100% in 5 Easy Steps"
The link is: ruclips.net/video/bPn_0e7QX9c/видео.html
Thanks!
@@BalloonDota I've seen those already but with detailed coaching session with the gameplay would be good.
6:18 why fight for the range creep, if OD will just astral you? or would you want to fight for ranged creep regardless?
Regardless, you still should try to invoke a response from the enemy. Because if he casts this spell for this wave, the next 20 seconds or so he will not have that spell to use in another scenario again. This potentially gives you a chance to trade/secure creeps favorably later on.
Hey thanks for the video! Side note, what is the discord with the questionable logo? lmao
@@LazyBuckshot hi bro, this logo is from the anime 'tokyo revengers' and is a random group I got invited into. I have left it ever since ya.
@@BalloonDota hahaha wow fast reply!
I just thought it was funny, thanks tho!
Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
May I know what tool you are using to write on the screen, kind sir?
Also, I may add. What should I do if my 2 creeps are pushed in between his both tier towers? should I block the incoming creeps or try to punish him deep on those between towers of him?
TIA!
Hi, the tool is EpicPen.
If you can punish him without drawing tower aggro, either by following the wave or skipping past the tower through the trees on the side and connecting to him in between the two towers then that would be more favorable. Otherwise, if you cannot contest him, then just block the creeps. Sometimes, you don't want to block your creeps either as a way to have their tower help push the wave back to you. It highly depends on the scenario.
@@BalloonDota thank you so much, kind sir.
why do you prioritize hitting creeps while you can't hit enemy ? just for the deny bait ? isn't it just gonna push the lane ?
yeah thank
My man i am happy someone finally creates mid guides but dude, what value is guide of od vs ember :dd thats like no point
What program do you use for drawing on a video? Great work!
This is EpicPen
Is it applicable to safelane also?
Hi, while some of these concepts are applicable to the sidelanes, the sidelanes are more about balancing creep equilibrium and holding lanes near tower much more.
Where can i reach you directly without fiverr? Im interesting in mid coaching
Hi, you can add me on Discord, my ID is BaLLooN#5243
How do you creep block like this lol I always try side to side hitting stop button to slow wave but one always gets through by walking out to side from the pack and if I try to block as slow as you do I have no chance xD
The trick is to move side ways lesser, but move forwards more and a few stop buttons here and there. Moving side to side with stop button repeatedly will easily allow creeps to pass through because your hero will not be able to make up for the lack of movement speed early on.
This video is GOLD! Thanks for the tips on midlane
can you plz make video for hero's with summons like LD, VISAGE , BROOD MOTHER etc.how to play against and with them in MIDLANE.
One of the top tier dota coaches in the scene.
Amazing ❤🌹🌷
Senseii..
You should make more content about this, req next video How to POS1
this is good stuff
there are scenarios where you are against a hero like sniper that this is harder to apply
good tutorial but why do you have a swastika in your discord server list?
Hi, just responding what I responded to another comment about the same question.
"That was a channel which one of my student invited me to a Discord call. It is actually the logo for the biker's gang from the anime Tokyo Revengers, 'Tokyo Manji Gang'. I have since left the channel as I am aware of it myself as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Again, its from the anime and the protagonist's biker gang's logo, there is backlash from that as well online."
cool, thanks for the response
im only ancient but i feel like this is a kinda "balanced" matchup, i would love to see how to win with puck vs lone druid or sniper for example, because i always getting denied and outfarmed SO HEAVILIY in matchups like this, it feels unplayable
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My sifuu!!!!
Does anyone have discord servers with these types of tips and tricks?
more!!!!
Cool tutorial but bruh why are you in a discord channel with a swastika for a logo
Hi, that was a channel which one of my student invited me to a Discord call. It is actually the logo for the biker's gang from the anime Tokyo Revengers, 'Tokyo Manji Gang'. I have since left the channel as I am aware of it myself as well. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@BalloonDota Cool. I'm not here to cancel you or anything just pointing out you probably don't want to associate yourself with that
@@m3pr0forester That is perfectly understandable, thank you for the concern. Again, its from the anime and the protagonist's biker gang's logo, there is backlash from that as well online.
WOOHOO
maybe if that coach go ember and student was od it was better idea ! what a pro 8 k who play on range and better hero vs his student
160-180 ping now thats flexing
2:27 yo what's that server
Hi, just responding what I responded to another comment about the same question.
"That was a channel which one of my student invited me to a Discord call. It is actually the logo for the biker's gang from the anime Tokyo Revengers, 'Tokyo Manji Gang'. I have since left the channel as I am aware of it myself as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Again, its from the anime and the protagonist's biker gang's logo, there is backlash from that as well online."
We have the same MMR 3600 but i dont lane like him :D but i still you on game why? supports are farming(NOT SMOKING), POS3 is busy on side lanes just AFK so how to win?????
maybe show a different matchup than OD vs Ember it is literally unplayable for the burning man so you dont need too match skill to win this, just spam your astral and harass with Q off cd
Hi, watch through the video and see, I do Ember in the video as well against OD using the same idea.
What about side lane Mr nothing to say
Great content but fk me... coaching is expensive 😢
man what is that 4th discord server 💀
Just pick range
OD vs ember ..
Hi, it is mirrored match where we swap heroes and I explain OD vs Ember and Ember vs OD. It is further into the video.
Good content but you sound so angry hahaha😂
Lol that's just how I sound when I emphasize points haha, I am aware that it can come across as stern and my students have all disagreed and said they felt it was helping.
de OD até eu
Anyone wants to practice laning mid with me?
i am sorry but you play OD vs meele hero . nothing to see here you are bully by default. Put video where you are Ember vs OD and then make video about how you win or menage to stay on lane
Ma gaddd! Why u gotta type so much
Madafarker 🤡😂.Id win OD vs ember all day everyday.Madfarker jsut want ur money
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