Giorno has really little character development, but he sort of acts as a beacon of hope that pushes forward other character's development. I think this is really fitting for his character, since hes technically the son of both Johnathan, who had an undying spirit and sense of justice, and dio, who was notorious for influencing people with his charisma
@@eggedegg4659 That was the point, he's already an established character at the start so he can be the catalyst for the development of others. He does get character development but it's really subtle.
man is literally developing as it goes on he gets more experienced in his ability and to face opponents its just that he is a very confident individual or has a facade
@@saifkhan-kc9ec Honestly he didnt really develop his ability. There was the baby face arc and him replacing body parts but even that was just him realizing he could've always been doing that. Pretty much every fight giorno wins is him using one of GE's limitless abilities, or him just having 1 billion IQ
@@Sawkax tis' the order of events in which thou Giorno Giovanna fires a barrage of several hundredth punches at Ciocolatta spanning for across seventh pages in the original manga serialization of this anime adaptation, sire. ☺️
I like how cunning and even a bit sadistic Giorno is. It's like, he is honour-bound, but he reserves that honour for people who deserve it. He's got no problem with fucking up scumbags in cruel and unusual ways.
People say that Giorno is bland and doesn't show emotion when his comrades died. But I think the way he reacted is good enough for people he only knew for like a week. Giorno is really cool and underrated in my opinion lol, his design is just unic and he himself is a badass.
I would say more If you look at him closely after the deaths you can see him shaking At his lore he learned tha crying was pointless so as a child he instead only got quiet in his room and trembled (i probably wrote everything worng)
@@smileyent.3055 exactly, everyone says giorno is bland and such but i’d say him not acting like a gigachad or doing some cool punch is actually more realistic and a breath of fresh air instead of the normal jojo formula
Giorno feels more like a tool to the story rather than a character, he is righteous and badass at times but his personality is too subtle to compare him to other JoJos
Still I can't belive they made the strongest jojo character in universe and then there is no references to him, not a single Word. I still miss him, he still could be important for plot, or at least we could see him Talking with jotaro
@@theggman111 i mean you can read more of him in purple haze feedback. its miniscule but it is what it is Also according to jojolion's final volume's author note, the most strongest in jojoverse is wonder of you
Giorno is a very unique jojo (not only because he’s also a brando). People who say he’s boring and that he doesn’t have emotions or really care about others are looking at him face value. Giorno shows *a lot* of emotion, rather than outwardly expressing them himself he expresses them through his actions. Everything can be traced back to his upbringing. He had to constantly observe his stepdad to see what kind of mood he was in and this translates to other things as well. He has a very good judge of character, can read a room easily, and is very in tune to others emotional needs. He’s often quick to sacrifice himself or something that belongs to him for others, often leading to him being injured (the dudes intentionally hurt himself so many times just to make someone else more confident, comfortable, safe, etc). As a child he was often left alone, if something overwhelming happened he learned there was no use in crying because no one would ever show up. Now, even though he’s surrounded with greate very supportive friends, he shuts down emotionally during overwhelming situations that he can do nothing about (his reaction to abbacchios death, he did not cry “for there was no use”, instead he blamed himself, when it wasn’t his fault at all). he’s someone yah gotta really analyze to get behind. I don’t blame people for the “he’s boring” take, on surface level, especially when compared to the characters around him, he is kinda plain (again *surface level* )
@@nathanlevesque7812 lol if that’s ur take away from my character analysis then idk what to tell ya man. u can have ur opinions, doesn’t matter to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In a sense, he is the inverse Jotaro. Jotaro is also hard to read and has a lot of deep emotions despite them hardly breaking surface. Giorno, unlike Jotaro, doesn’t like to play the game or one liners. Dude prefers to remove threats and elevate others. He didn’t lecture the man before the banana became a gun. He warned Luca once before basically just letting the dude do himself in. And his speech to the monster was literally just to kill time until the beetle finished growing. Giorno speeches only those he wishes to recruit or build up. Jotaro hardly ever speeches at his friends, most of them knowing he is their friend because of that stalwart support he gives through action. But he has so many one liners and complaints about his villains. Not as a whiner but as a man who really does not have the time for this. One of them wastes no time with villains and takes pleasure in wasting time with friends. The other wastes no time with friends and hates wasting time with villains. Literal opposites on the coin.
The thing about a story is that it’s not always about how the characters ‘develop’. Sometimes it can be about exploring who a character already is through their interactions and experiences. That’s why I love Giorno.
I think giorno is perfect for what he’s meant to be. He has johnathan’s sense of will and justice, he has dios sense of cunning and charisma, and he grew up around merciless mobsters. This makes him an amazing candidate as the cutthroat but good hearted person to rally others to reform the mafia for the better
@@sulyvahnthetyrant7378 honestly it depends on what you think makes a good character. For me a good character is both entertaining and relevant to the story, which for me Giorno is both.
@Muhammedlee Giorno is the first anti hero in entire series, his intention was good, like Jonathan. But he was also cruel and manipulatively charming like DIO, willing to remove anyone who gets in his way. He was eager to make sacrifices for his team, whereas we haven't seen Jonathan making much of sacrifice. Just him sharing the spotlight with other characters in main cast doesn't make him -or Jotaro- boring. If he wouldn't come up with the idea of overthrowing Diavolo, Bucciarati would be still working under Polpo. So no, even though Bucciarati is a brilliant character, he isn't as morally gray and ambitious as Giorno thus interesting.
People often mistake a stoic personality with 'no personality'. Giorno has his flaws but his personality is not, and he's had a bit of shine on comedy, like the fed up truck driver or the healing Mista scene. Man, he even has feelings: he mourned Abbacchio's death, cried Narancia's, and felt inspired by Bruno's. You cannot tell me that he has no personality or feelings when Giorno himself shows that passion for his comrades and dreams. Jotaro is treated with the "no personality" argument as well. But people seem to ignore his charisma, he drops his own quips with a straight face or sometimes smiling. I loved when he was treated like shit by Steely Dan and said with a smile "I'm adding stuff to the list the shit you have done to me. by the end of this, you are paying back" and when he managed to beat him he said "here's your receipt". Or when he broke the Fourth wall, or when he called Kira's watch ugly. I found it funny and showed me that Jotaro has personality instead of what people say.
Giorno has a LOT of character development. He just centers on his own goals in the beginning of the season but then he understands that every member of Bruno's crew is not an asset but a human being. He cries when Narancia dies and put flowers on top of him to respect him. Protects Mista and inspire him to do the impossible, even when he thought of himself as a weak stand user (White album and green day fights). Proobed Abacchio and Fugo that he is willing to sacrifice himself instead of leaving a friend just to finish a task. Just because Jojo's doesn't necessarily explains Giorno's perspective as an anime or make the opponent cry for Giorno understanding his motivations like a crappy anime doesn't mean that he underdevolped and to me is one of the best protagonists in the series. (Sorry for my bad english)
@@roboticminer8843 When? How? Where? IDK why but he seemed pretty selfless when he got himself stabbed just so Abbac would use his power. In one of the first fights of the show so my disbelief isn't really suspended
I love Giorno soo much, and I never realized how many people dislike him but like Jotaro.. they’re very similar to each other.. especially when it comes to showing emotion, I’d argue that Giorno shows more emotion than Jotaro does.
0:58 HE SAID THE THING! What I love about Giorno is how he´s written like what he is. Different than the rest of the Joestars. While the rest of the protagonists have some sort of change in their character, Giorno instead changes others around him. Just like DIO influenced others, only for good like Jonathan.
People mistake a character being stoic for a character having no personality. Giorno's personality IS that he is a stoic, cold blooded idealist who uses all means he can to approach his goal. He is obviously filled with rage about everything around him, he just shows it in the coldest possible manner, like a true gangster. He does not show his emotion, but I would say that through the entirety of his part he basically is seething with anger at the injustice of the world.
I think it’s because, unlike the rest of the protagonists, Giorno keeps a relatively cool head and demeanor. Even in comparison to Jotaro, he’s more composed and that’s “boring” because he’s not screaming his thoughts out loud.
i want to know how much people act in life so i can show you that when you call a character like giorno boring your also being unreliable to others who need the type that giorno is.
@@dreamiinotdream730 It's also the fact that he's just not a relatable character after the first few episodes. His whole story is literally just "I'm trying to become a top gangster because the one person who was nice to me was a gangster, and I guess I'll make friends along the way", and then he's super calm and cool and beats people up. He really is the least interesting character out of the main group despite being Jonathan/Dio's son
Name times when Giorno could have used that ability more. Seriously, name more times. People like to say that "well the ability of [insert character name] was forgotten" and then fail to mention times it could have been used later.
Like when Giorno unlocked GER and turned Diavolos finger (or was it a pebble?) Into a scorpion, and Diavolo crushed it. Diavolo shoulda been turned into jam that time Also, wouldn't Mista ripping out grass to make the snowboard count as ripping life off? It should reflect off to Mista and rip him in two.
@@Famneh1 His statement doesn't imply the lack of instrumentation in his theme. It specifies about the worth value of the piano part against others piano part.
Giorno suffers from the Tintin effect. In very early comics where Tintin was only character, everything happened to him. Over time, a large supporting cast of colorfur characters formed and all the they usually took the hits and Tintin became more of an observing character who figures the stuff out in the end. Same with Giorno. He becomes blander when Bruno's gang is such colorful characters.
"Mature" is when you become Mafia Boss in one week by piercing yourself with an arrow and obtain a God-like power to kill the schizo former Boss because fate told so.
4:08 I love how some main stands have gunshot sounds, and here GER sounds like a sniper rifle. After that 360 degree windup shot that banished Diavolo's soul out of the main Jojo timeline forevermore. A powerful rifle sounds like a fitting analogy for the stand's power
I really love him. While he doesn’t have the ability to state his feelings (symptom of childhood neglect), he responds with this ferocious tenacity to do the right thing through his actions. His strengths lay in his ability to relate to weak people, which is why he was so enraged by Ciocolata, who ravaged a town of helpless people. Even as he’s beating Diavolo, every punch has meaning and intent. He is just a teenager still, so when his friends die, he relapses into that silent, trembling state he reverted to as a neglected child. He feels real pain and suffering but can’t express it unless it is through justice/vengeance. He fights for his friends.
I think the point of Giorno was to get more of a look at the charm DIO had plus the determination of the Joestar bloodline. Golden Wind was never about Giorno just the effect he had on others.
In any other case, a character standing up for themselves and for the better good when in front of a mafioso, would be seen as completely stupid But I like that Giorno is someone who has the power to match his righteousness, and the coldness to defend himself against the horrible people that surround him and plot against him
My issue is most of these examples happen in his up time, I wanted to get more Giorno in his down time. I know more about Narancia because he likes listening to his Snoop Dogg on his beatbox, and having margarita pizza w/ lil mushrooms. Or how we can get that with other Parts on downtime, Joseph has a hard time reading a room, Jotaro gets irritated easily if he’s trying to relax, Josuke wanting to do relatable teenage pass time, Jolyne try to find entertainment from anything she can. (Hey there’s a crocodile! Stone Yeet!) I feel there was too little of that from Giorno after he joined Passione
I mean he is strict when it comes to his goals. We just see his dorm room but you can't get much more wider read from that aside from "Giorno goes to school and knows people." statement because he was focused on the lighter. His enthusiasm and obsession over his goal usually even resulted in funny moments. Such as the forcing the truck driver and the snake venom antidote scenes.
i mean we know giorno likes chocolate pudding and octopus salad and his favorite musician is jeff beck (the thing with characters food and music preferences is there for everyone on the bucci gang)
To be fair…we only actually deal with Giorno and his entire arc for a week…in universe his entire journey was shorter than the entirety of phantom blood
Giorno is cool as shit. From his design to his personality, it's badass. What bothers me is that the other characters were so good that they could overshadow Giorno and make him feel more like a side character for a significant chunk the story. Specially since the other characters had a lot of character development and Giorno's was subtle. However, I loved that Giorno, as another comment already stated, worked as a beacon of hope that propels other characters forward throughout part 5.
Love how he dodges the shovel at first not because of his own safety. But because he actively didn't want to kill the man at first because of his stand ability~ He was literally trying to give him a chance.
Lets not forget the resolve and faith he showed to Abbachio even though the first thing the guy did when he met him was make Giorno drink piss. Giorno essentially sacrificed himself during that fight just so Abbachio and Bucciarati had a better chance at winning. That kind of well-put faith to me shows that Giorno has some of the best instincts of any JoJo character
@@subper7 I don’t remember which chapter exactly but it was when the sons of DIO were gathered in Florida, Giorno was mentioned to be in florida as well just not in cape carnaval
@@conscripthornet4430 I’m pretty sure it’s in the chapter that they talk about Donatello, they say he might be in Florida Edit: I was wrong, it was Rykeil’s page
"Giorno is boring" just because a character in jojo doesn't manipulate time at will, rip space time continuum by just punching the air, it doesn't make it boring.
@@dizzydino8600 its like he isnt developing its more like u learn abotu him more u get to understand a cold person can also have his reason and be good in heart
He used create life many times villains just didn't hit them and in diavolo fight david production made a mistake by showing diavolo hitting scorpions created by ger
@@lordbaby2221it’s been a year, yet, I need to ask.. what’s with the quotes on the “you”?? Like, what is that meant to emphasise? Is this man.. not who he is? Is he not him?? What could that possibly mean?
Giorno is literally Jonathan and Dio mixed. He has strong morals and always wants to do the right thing, but he is also deadly, smart, and not afraid to absolutely demolish his enemies.
my thing about him is he's sorta like Goku. one goal, and all the other characters bounce of him in that they're all inspired by him. I will say the rest of the cast looks cooler if only because they've all got more bombastic personalities compared to him. but yeah, he reminds me of Goku. stuff doesn't really happen with him so much as around him.
I Thought the general opinion on Giorno Was he was the most interesting in the series, i was wrong Giorno is my favourite protagonist in JoJo I feel that people who think that Giorno Is "boring" didn't like Golden Wind or JoJo
My only problem with giorno is we didn’t get his introspective enough. I really liked how in the beginning we would know what he was thinking like when he fought Bruno and was like “oh shit he gotta punchy ghost too”
I think that is because he had the least amount of character development in Bruno's gang and the fact that he ends up feeling a lot like Jotaro 2.0 even if they are completely different.
@@lightningdragon666 i dont think similar and same is the a same thing yes giorno is similar to jotaro in some ways but the difference is jotaro has some kind of friendship giorno is someone we learn more about and learn to like we slowly understand how someone so cold and charismatic has his own good reasons and is good in heart like in the start he bases out the facts but doesnt mean a good cause doesnt require sacrifices
@@saifkhan-kc9ec That is why I said that he come of as same to "people". My wording might have suggested that it was own thought of him, though it was just what I have seen others talk about him. A lot of people see him as just a "DIO version of Jotaro"
I enjoyed the rest of the show, just as long as it's good, no need to have things spelled out. Seen a whole ton of defenses on Giorno and I still think he's shit.
So I have to like a character who follows a life of crime a violence because it appeals to his twisted sense of justice, is largely bald and without discernable personality, Usually goes for the most obvious line of attack despite alleged strategic genius and an extremely powerful stand - even before GER and who in the end just wins from a mindless powerup just because If I don't, I am dumb for not 'getting him'.
First of all, mafia IS violent indeed, but are you going to leave the problem to who? The police? The Italian government? They were all bought by Passione if you paid attention to the series. So yeah, it had to be fire vs fire from the beggining if Giorno wanted to change what's better for society. Secondly, not all power-ups have to come due to training or some inherent logic to the anime, Giorno vs. Diavolo was more of an aesthetic representation of the fight between "the end justifies the means" versus truth itself and allow the power of destiny to overcome the fears of the heroes of part 5. You ain't dumb for not getting it, you should rewatch it and be more patient, cause Golden Wind isn't the best at first glance.
Yea I don’t think this changes anything. In terms of Jojos, Giorno really doesn’t stand out character wise. He’s not exceptionally outgoing or witty like Joseph or Josuke, nor is he justice giving like Jotaro or Jolyne. He’s not even like Jonathan or Dio. He’s just, boring. The rest of the cast is interesting, having way cooler abilities and backstories, I just think that Giorno was kind of a let down.
Giorno isn't boring, it's just Bruno is too awesome that he shadowed him. At first i seriously thought Bruno is the main character of this part, not Giorno
Well, Bruno is the leader of the team, the story is as much about his rebellion against the Boss then anything. Girono is the catalyst, but Bruno is the glue that keeps the gang going.
For me, i just thinked they promised too much about this character and delivered too low. I don't feel like he is a bad character, but he is far away from what was promised in the beggining and from the points that made other protagonists so unique
I like how the part with Giacchio was edited to cut out Giorno's speech, so it just seems like Giorno showed up, exchanged no words, and killed him instantly.
True, they should have used the clip of him and Mista after their fight with Ghiaccio, when he drank Abacchio's piss with his jellyfish teeth, when he purposely let himself get caught by Zucchero to prove his loyalty and respect to Bucciarati, when he stood up for Narancia as he's being scolded by Fugo after he lost the groceries in his fight with Formaggio, when he tried desperately to signal Mista of Sale's presence only for it to not work at all and afterwards venting his anger out on the poor truck driver. Point is, there are lots of scenes showcasing Giorno's personality and character, same with Jotaro.
If you think giorno is an underdeveloped character you need to rewatch part 5 again cuz my god how stupid you would sound if you actually say that he’s literally just cold like his father not that hard to figure out he’s just a good guy version of dio 🥱
@@bappojujubes981 I think its the fact that this doesn't show often, its static a lot of the time. Whenever we do see that side of Giorno its great, but I feel like he's just boring compared to other characters in a lot of fights. My favorite fight with him has to be against Baby Face where he is forced to think extremely quickly and ends up discovering a new ability. He had all the potential, it just felt static in the fights where he isn't the main focus. Like you said, Ghiacchio vs Mista, I couldn't stand Giorno. He came out of nowhere like a free win card at that point in what was otherwise an extremely interesting fight. Its almost like he's a bit too calm in those scenarios while we see him panic a lot earlier. I don't know how to describe it but its almost like he stopped feeling pain and we only get to see the determined side, not the struggles to hold onto hope. ngl though I really love Giorno as a character, especially in the Car Ride at the end with Bruno and him. It really showed a lot of his personality and how he reacts to it, putting him through even more emotional pain now that Abbachio was also gone.
@@bigthickdaddy Fair point, but the problem is that we already figured that out at like mid-way of the show. Giorno did not grow, he has always been "Giorno". Except for part 7 and even 8 where Araki has started to implement character development, the other parts suffer the same way. It's not to say that lacking character development equates to a boring character though, I personally think it's the impact they have on the other characters on a personal level. Take Jotaro as a bad example. He's stoic and plenty menacing, we get it. But he just doesn't contribute much to the part except as being a good friend. For many, that's already enough, but compared to the later parts, his stone-cold demeanour just isn't that captivating. But then, to be fair, we could just say Araki has been growing as a manga artist as well as a story writer.
I don’t think he is boring, but he definitely isn’t the most interesting JoJo. Part 5 was good bc all of the characters personalities played into eachother and made eachother mature and grow. Giorno didn’t have too much character development, instead he pushed the others into growing mentally. He was almost “perfect” from the beginning tbh
Villain: gets his head smashed in, pretty sure it's instead death. Giorno: starts telling the villain about his stand power and tells him not to make him repeat himself.
I chalk it up to him being a fast learner…plus he doesn’t know what to do for every situation…bro got incapacitated for majority of the fights he even so much as appeared in
It’s kind of weird because Gio right at the beginning of part 5 is nothing like he is at the end of part 5 But I don’t know if it’s character development or we just don’t see him steal anything anymore
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Giorno has really little character development, but he sort of acts as a beacon of hope that pushes forward other character's development. I think this is really fitting for his character, since hes technically the son of both Johnathan, who had an undying spirit and sense of justice, and dio, who was notorious for influencing people with his charisma
Yeah its like he is done developing by the start
@@eggedegg4659 That was the point, he's already an established character at the start so he can be the catalyst for the development of others. He does get character development but it's really subtle.
He is literally a metaphor for Jesus who gives hope to people he meets
man is literally developing as it goes on he gets more experienced in his ability and to face opponents its just that he is a very confident individual or has a facade
@@saifkhan-kc9ec Honestly he didnt really develop his ability. There was the baby face arc and him replacing body parts but even that was just him realizing he could've always been doing that. Pretty much every fight giorno wins is him using one of GE's limitless abilities, or him just having 1 billion IQ
we all knew the 7 page muda would be in here
what is 7 page mayuagaay yrae
No
@@Sawkax it is the sequence of punches that Giorno did which took place over 7 pages in the manga of this anime 😊
@@Sawkax tis' the order of events in which thou Giorno Giovanna fires a barrage of several hundredth punches at Ciocolatta spanning for across seventh pages in the original manga serialization of this anime adaptation, sire. ☺️
Wait, pages? Not panels?
I like how cunning and even a bit sadistic Giorno is. It's like, he is honour-bound, but he reserves that honour for people who deserve it. He's got no problem with fucking up scumbags in cruel and unusual ways.
Very DIO but also very Jonathan
The best of the Joestars and Dio
@@aziatouchsilent8507 I agree pfp bro
Jotaro did it better
couldn’t have said it better very common jojo enjoyer W
giorno: *i don't like repeating my self*
also giorno: *muda muda*
He’s really attached to the word. It’s in his genes
Wait a minute what are you doing here?
@@littlespartan581 he came to naples for fun, don't mind him
@@gigachad3113 nah he is just in every jojo meme video so
@@littlespartan581 makes even more sense
His little "muda, muda" after Leaky Eye Luca died is adorable, I love it.
Well he didn't die..
@@bigmviperplayz253 Eh, true. He gets put into a coma, but still ends up dead so..
agreed
People say that Giorno is bland and doesn't show emotion when his comrades died. But I think the way he reacted is good enough for people he only knew for like a week. Giorno is really cool and underrated in my opinion lol, his design is just unic and he himself is a badass.
I would say more
If you look at him closely after the deaths you can see him shaking
At his lore he learned tha crying was pointless so as a child he instead only got quiet in his room and trembled (i probably wrote everything worng)
@@gabrielbarbosa7353 people love forgetting . Not every character needs development that makes them do a giga punch towards the end of the series
@@gabrielbarbosa7353 Real, your definitely right about that 👍
@@smileyent.3055 exactly, everyone says giorno is bland and such but i’d say him not acting like a gigachad or doing some cool punch is actually more realistic and a breath of fresh air instead of the normal jojo formula
Giorno feels more like a tool to the story rather than a character, he is righteous and badass at times but his personality is too subtle to compare him to other JoJos
Wait, people are mad Giorno was "boring?" The kid who spent his entire childhood thinking the use of his voice was pointless?
you mean useless?
@@actualsitert ahaha I see what you did there
@@actualsitert damn bro didnt knew pointless and useless can never be used to replace each other
Yes, he is boring.
People can have interesting backstories and still be boring.
@@denzolli4381 Its not about having an interesting backstory it's about explaining why he acts the way he does.
I can’t believe they gave giorno such an overpowered stand to use for one episode and never been seen again in jojos
mainly because it wouldnt have worked that well if giorno only had a "counter" move
That's JoJo's for ya
Still I can't belive they made the strongest jojo character in universe and then there is no references to him, not a single Word.
I still miss him, he still could be important for plot, or at least we could see him Talking with jotaro
@@theggman111 i mean you can read more of him in purple haze feedback. its miniscule but it is what it is
Also according to jojolion's final volume's author note, the most strongest in jojoverse is wonder of you
@@SaulofIceandFire for villains
GER still holds the place as strongest stand
Giorno is a very unique jojo
(not only because he’s also a brando).
People who say he’s boring and that he doesn’t have emotions or really care about others are looking at him face value.
Giorno shows *a lot* of emotion, rather than outwardly expressing them himself he expresses them through his actions.
Everything can be traced back to his upbringing.
He had to constantly observe his stepdad to see what kind of mood he was in and this translates to other things as well. He has a very good judge of character, can read a room easily, and is very in tune to others emotional needs.
He’s often quick to sacrifice himself or something that belongs to him for others, often leading to him being injured (the dudes intentionally hurt himself so many times just to make someone else more confident, comfortable, safe, etc).
As a child he was often left alone, if something overwhelming happened he learned there was no use in crying because no one would ever show up. Now, even though he’s surrounded with greate very supportive friends, he shuts down emotionally during overwhelming situations that he can do nothing about (his reaction to abbacchios death, he did not cry “for there was no use”, instead he blamed himself, when it wasn’t his fault at all).
he’s someone yah gotta really analyze to get behind. I don’t blame people for the “he’s boring” take, on surface level, especially when compared to the characters around him, he is kinda plain (again *surface level* )
Amazing info 👏🏽👏🏽
It’s cuz people don’t think. Giorno’s probs autistic from his abuse, but he shows he cares instead of crying about it
'I can headcanon a personality into him therefore he is well executed as a character'
@@nathanlevesque7812 lol if that’s ur take away from my character analysis then idk what to tell ya man. u can have ur opinions, doesn’t matter to me
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In a sense, he is the inverse Jotaro. Jotaro is also hard to read and has a lot of deep emotions despite them hardly breaking surface. Giorno, unlike Jotaro, doesn’t like to play the game or one liners. Dude prefers to remove threats and elevate others. He didn’t lecture the man before the banana became a gun. He warned Luca once before basically just letting the dude do himself in. And his speech to the monster was literally just to kill time until the beetle finished growing. Giorno speeches only those he wishes to recruit or build up.
Jotaro hardly ever speeches at his friends, most of them knowing he is their friend because of that stalwart support he gives through action. But he has so many one liners and complaints about his villains. Not as a whiner but as a man who really does not have the time for this.
One of them wastes no time with villains and takes pleasure in wasting time with friends. The other wastes no time with friends and hates wasting time with villains. Literal opposites on the coin.
The thing about a story is that it’s not always about how the characters ‘develop’. Sometimes it can be about exploring who a character already is through their interactions and experiences. That’s why I love Giorno.
👏🖤
I think giorno is perfect for what he’s meant to be. He has johnathan’s sense of will and justice, he has dios sense of cunning and charisma, and he grew up around merciless mobsters. This makes him an amazing candidate as the cutthroat but good hearted person to rally others to reform the mafia for the better
I wasn't aware anyone thought Giorno was boring, he is easily one of the coolest.
Being cool doesn’t make him a good character.
@@sulyvahnthetyrant7378 honestly it depends on what you think makes a good character. For me a good character is both entertaining and relevant to the story, which for me Giorno is both.
I love Giorno, I could sit and analyze him for HOURS because he's just that interesting to me. I can't do that with any other Jojo.
Imo "one of" unnecessary.
@Muhammedlee Giorno is the first anti hero in entire series, his intention was good, like Jonathan. But he was also cruel and manipulatively charming like DIO, willing to remove anyone who gets in his way. He was eager to make sacrifices for his team, whereas we haven't seen Jonathan making much of sacrifice. Just him sharing the spotlight with other characters in main cast doesn't make him -or Jotaro- boring. If he wouldn't come up with the idea of overthrowing Diavolo, Bucciarati would be still working under Polpo. So no, even though Bucciarati is a brilliant character, he isn't as morally gray and ambitious as Giorno thus interesting.
People often mistake a stoic personality with 'no personality'. Giorno has his flaws but his personality is not, and he's had a bit of shine on comedy, like the fed up truck driver or the healing Mista scene. Man, he even has feelings: he mourned Abbacchio's death, cried Narancia's, and felt inspired by Bruno's. You cannot tell me that he has no personality or feelings when Giorno himself shows that passion for his comrades and dreams.
Jotaro is treated with the "no personality" argument as well. But people seem to ignore his charisma, he drops his own quips with a straight face or sometimes smiling. I loved when he was treated like shit by Steely Dan and said with a smile "I'm adding stuff to the list the shit you have done to me. by the end of this, you are paying back" and when he managed to beat him he said "here's your receipt". Or when he broke the Fourth wall, or when he called Kira's watch ugly. I found it funny and showed me that Jotaro has personality instead of what people say.
Giorno has a LOT of character development. He just centers on his own goals in the beginning of the season but then he understands that every member of Bruno's crew is not an asset but a human being.
He cries when Narancia dies and put flowers on top of him to respect him. Protects Mista and inspire him to do the impossible, even when he thought of himself as a weak stand user (White album and green day fights).
Proobed Abacchio and Fugo that he is willing to sacrifice himself instead of leaving a friend just to finish a task.
Just because Jojo's doesn't necessarily explains Giorno's perspective as an anime or make the opponent cry for Giorno understanding his motivations like a crappy anime doesn't mean that he underdevolped and to me is one of the best protagonists in the series.
(Sorry for my bad english)
I get his Dad was an abusive manipulative sociopath, but I'm curious.
When did Giorno ever imply he didn't see any of the crew as fellow humans?
@@ivrydice0954 it’s not that he didn’t see them as humans, more so pawns to get to his goal.
@@roboticminer8843
When?
How?
Where?
IDK why but he seemed pretty selfless when he got himself stabbed just so Abbac would use his power. In one of the first fights of the show so my disbelief isn't really suspended
@@ivrydice0954 I think it was a round the very beginning. I might be misremembering though.
@@roboticminer8843 Do you think a sudden shift in morals in the start of Part 5 qualifies as "a LOT of character development."
I like how Giorno just straight up kills his enemies, the other Jojos were usually pretty moral but Giorno just straight up doesn't care
Thank his another barbaric gene (The Brando one).
to be fair, this is DIO's son we're talking about
I love Giorno soo much, and I never realized how many people dislike him but like Jotaro.. they’re very similar to each other.. especially when it comes to showing emotion, I’d argue that Giorno shows more emotion than Jotaro does.
Jotaro is a better character but only because of his extended screentime in parts 4 and 6. Giorno is a great concept that just wasn't explored enough.
@@shumanbeans I disagree, Jotaro was great in Part 3, but his personality didn't translate well in animation.
@@shumanbeans more like people just don’t understand his character
@@sarahalviz979 no, he hardly ever shows something resembling a personality after early part 5 thats why he isnt explored enough
He’s kind of a complete character from the get go, which isn’t a bad thing.
It is tho? Just the amount of people that say he's boring proves it
0:58 HE SAID THE THING!
What I love about Giorno is how he´s written like what he is. Different than the rest of the Joestars.
While the rest of the protagonists have some sort of change in their character, Giorno instead changes others around him.
Just like DIO influenced others, only for good like Jonathan.
Josuke and Giorno would be besties for sure
ok giorno funny but funny moments with joseph will be for 30 minutes💀
People mistake a character being stoic for a character having no personality.
Giorno's personality IS that he is a stoic, cold blooded idealist who uses all means he can to approach his goal. He is obviously filled with rage about everything around him, he just shows it in the coldest possible manner, like a true gangster. He does not show his emotion, but I would say that through the entirety of his part he basically is seething with anger at the injustice of the world.
By far the most brutal JoJo. Dio would be proud.
Giorno was a pretty cool protagonist. If you think he's boring, it's most likely because of how he acts in character.
I think it’s because, unlike the rest of the protagonists, Giorno keeps a relatively cool head and demeanor. Even in comparison to Jotaro, he’s more composed and that’s “boring” because he’s not screaming his thoughts out loud.
Giorno is like DIO with his charisma but mixed with Jonathan's good hart and sense of duty
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY I... WHAT? ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE IS BORING?
i want to know how much people act in life so i can show you that when you call a character like giorno boring your also being unreliable to others who need the type that giorno is.
@@dreamiinotdream730 It's also the fact that he's just not a relatable character after the first few episodes.
His whole story is literally just "I'm trying to become a top gangster because the one person who was nice to me was a gangster, and I guess I'll make friends along the way", and then he's super calm and cool and beats people up.
He really is the least interesting character out of the main group despite being Jonathan/Dio's son
Do people forget he started as a guy utilizing his team members to actually caring for them and protecting them by the end?
please give examples friend, i dare you.
Aww, yes, Giorno's damage reflect ability which gets forgotten like 2 episodes after
Araki syndrome 🤷🏻♂️
Name times when Giorno could have used that ability more. Seriously, name more times. People like to say that "well the ability of [insert character name] was forgotten" and then fail to mention times it could have been used later.
It was never forgotten, Giorno just didn't have the opportunity to use this ability again
Like when Giorno unlocked GER and turned Diavolos finger (or was it a pebble?) Into a scorpion, and Diavolo crushed it. Diavolo shoulda been turned into jam that time
Also, wouldn't Mista ripping out grass to make the snowboard count as ripping life off? It should reflect off to Mista and rip him in two.
@@smickothesmickest I'm pretty sure that scene with Diavolo was not in the manga, so it's a mistake made by David Production rather than Araki himself
OK next video: *"Giorno's piano is the only good jojo piano" Meanwhile Josuke:*
Giorno's theme doesn't only have piano.
@@Famneh1Say sike
Meanwhile Weatherforecast:
@@Famneh1 His statement doesn't imply the lack of instrumentation in his theme. It specifies about the worth value of the piano part against others piano part.
@@duvan-solis no one says Giorno's piano is the only good piano
2:23 I always remember this kick as how The World kick Jotaro and it's amazing.
He has a strong sense of justice like Johnathan and he will absolutely fuck you up in the worst way imaginable if you piss him off like Dio.
Giorno suffers from the Tintin effect. In very early comics where Tintin was only character, everything happened to him. Over time, a large supporting cast of colorfur characters formed and all the they usually took the hits and Tintin became more of an observing character who figures the stuff out in the end. Same with Giorno. He becomes blander when Bruno's gang is such colorful characters.
the most mature Jojo story in my opinion
stone ocean and phantom blood aswell
SBR say hello
"Mature" is when you become Mafia Boss in one week by piercing yourself with an arrow and obtain a God-like power to kill the schizo former Boss because fate told so.
@@HMNCLunar lmfao
@@HMNCLunar That’s…a reductionist way of putting it…
He beat Diavolo to a river, his mom is proud of him now
Part 5 haters when a teen that has to team up with people that he never met before doesn't show any emotion (omg he is shy that's unacceptable)
4:08 I love how some main stands have gunshot sounds, and here GER sounds like a sniper rifle. After that 360 degree windup shot that banished Diavolo's soul out of the main Jojo timeline forevermore. A powerful rifle sounds like a fitting analogy for the stand's power
I really love him. While he doesn’t have the ability to state his feelings (symptom of childhood neglect), he responds with this ferocious tenacity to do the right thing through his actions. His strengths lay in his ability to relate to weak people, which is why he was so enraged by Ciocolata, who ravaged a town of helpless people. Even as he’s beating Diavolo, every punch has meaning and intent.
He is just a teenager still, so when his friends die, he relapses into that silent, trembling state he reverted to as a neglected child. He feels real pain and suffering but can’t express it unless it is through justice/vengeance. He fights for his friends.
im still flabbergasted at the fact that mr piss eye didnt know what a frog was
People who trash on Giorno for having little character development forget that static characters aren't always a bad thing
I think he's not bland he's just a mix of Jonathan and Dio that's all. So what I see of him is to be expected
I think the point of Giorno was to get more of a look at the charm DIO had plus the determination of the Joestar bloodline. Golden Wind was never about Giorno just the effect he had on others.
In any other case, a character standing up for themselves and for the better good when in front of a mafioso, would be seen as completely stupid
But I like that Giorno is someone who has the power to match his righteousness, and the coldness to defend himself against the horrible people that surround him and plot against him
My dream is GER with Dio's voice. It would be a masterclass.
2:49 Dio: "That's my son!"
My issue is most of these examples happen in his up time, I wanted to get more Giorno in his down time. I know more about Narancia because he likes listening to his Snoop Dogg on his beatbox, and having margarita pizza w/ lil mushrooms. Or how we can get that with other Parts on downtime, Joseph has a hard time reading a room, Jotaro gets irritated easily if he’s trying to relax, Josuke wanting to do relatable teenage pass time, Jolyne try to find entertainment from anything she can. (Hey there’s a crocodile! Stone Yeet!) I feel there was too little of that from Giorno after he joined Passione
I mean he is strict when it comes to his goals. We just see his dorm room but you can't get much more wider read from that aside from "Giorno goes to school and knows people." statement because he was focused on the lighter. His enthusiasm and obsession over his goal usually even resulted in funny moments. Such as the forcing the truck driver and the snake venom antidote scenes.
i mean we know giorno likes chocolate pudding and octopus salad and his favorite musician is jeff beck (the thing with characters food and music preferences is there for everyone on the bucci gang)
"I was so bored I did a piercing on my belly button"
- Jolyne
To be fair…we only actually deal with Giorno and his entire arc for a week…in universe his entire journey was shorter than the entirety of phantom blood
@@TheCuboneSwordsman And yet we got to see Narancia, Fugo, Abbacchio, and Mista do more funny downtime stuff on the boat and/or Venezian restaurant.
Giorno is cool as shit. From his design to his personality, it's badass.
What bothers me is that the other characters were so good that they could overshadow Giorno and make him feel more like a side character for a significant chunk the story. Specially since the other characters had a lot of character development and Giorno's was subtle.
However, I loved that Giorno, as another comment already stated, worked as a beacon of hope that propels other characters forward throughout part 5.
How do ppl not like giorno be fr
he hits that WRYYYYYYY like Dio never could
The son of Johnathan and DIO is truly one of the best characters in the series
I like how gold experience poses when it finishes a barrage attack
Almost every physical stand does that
I think that special pose is a call back to Jonathan Joestar
Love how he dodges the shovel at first not because of his own safety. But because he actively didn't want to kill the man at first because of his stand ability~ He was literally trying to give him a chance.
Lets not forget the resolve and faith he showed to Abbachio even though the first thing the guy did when he met him was make Giorno drink piss. Giorno essentially sacrificed himself during that fight just so Abbachio and Bucciarati had a better chance at winning.
That kind of well-put faith to me shows that Giorno has some of the best instincts of any JoJo character
I hate the first scene with the shovel because that ability is used for like the first two episodes and then never again.
Imagine showing up for 1 season and never being seen or mentioned again
He's mentioned in stone ocean but only his name
Josuke moment
@@subper7 I don’t remember which chapter exactly but it was when the sons of DIO were gathered in Florida, Giorno was mentioned to be in florida as well just not in cape carnaval
@@conscripthornet4430 I’m pretty sure it’s in the chapter that they talk about Donatello, they say he might be in Florida
Edit: I was wrong, it was Rykeil’s page
@@chefbendy4429 highlight the word "MIGHT BE"
Started watching Golden Wind a couple weeks ago and now I’m constantly humming Giorno’s theme
Giorno was the 1st Jojo who actually killed his human enemies.
It was refreshing that he didn't just beat them up.
"Giorno is boring" just because a character in jojo doesn't manipulate time at will, rip space time continuum by just punching the air, it doesn't make it boring.
yeah, ger return to zero don't manipulate time at all
@@artz8524 if they were talking about ger giorno ofc they wouldn't say he's boring. Also, no, he doesn't. Learn how RTZ works.
To me, Giorno was boring since to me he didn't feel like a joestar. But the more I see him the more I started to like him more.
@@dizzydino8600 its like he isnt developing its more like u learn abotu him more u get to understand a cold person can also have his reason and be good in heart
@@justanormalguy3151 well technically he does manipulate time cuz cause and effect wont exist without time but thats getting into pointless details.
Giorno is not boring. He is and was all the time the boss he would need to be one day. 🙌🏻
0:43 Hmmmm...
I wonder if he will ever use that attack again on anyone this point forward...
I wonder...
He would have, if he had the chance to.
@@abhrobiswas4956
He had. Multiple times. People just have convinced themselves he couldn't.
He used create life many times villains just didn't hit them and in diavolo fight david production made a mistake by showing diavolo hitting scorpions created by ger
@@HMNCLunar No, he never had any.
@@abhrobiswas4956 Bruno? Cioccolata?
I love that from how fast giorno punches, the youtube compression system cant handle it- which is why it looks so low quality
"Boring"? bro he's one of my favorite characters 💀
For "you"
@@lordbaby2221it’s been a year, yet, I need to ask.. what’s with the quotes on the “you”?? Like, what is that meant to emphasise? Is this man.. not who he is? Is he not him?? What could that possibly mean?
I like how people call him boring when he has all the attributes of the past jojos
2:13 i wouldn’t have cut out Giorno’s cool ass speech
Boring as in static. Sure he has exciting moments, but he’s an incredibly simple and safe character for a hero.
Nah
@@kirilWW riveting response. It’s so convincing
I cant imagine that anyone is saying that giorno is boring
Giorno is boring
@@zarrg5611 d:
Giorno is literally Jonathan and Dio mixed. He has strong morals and always wants to do the right thing, but he is also deadly, smart, and not afraid to absolutely demolish his enemies.
my thing about him is he's sorta like Goku. one goal, and all the other characters bounce of him in that they're all inspired by him. I will say the rest of the cast looks cooler if only because they've all got more bombastic personalities compared to him. but yeah, he reminds me of Goku. stuff doesn't really happen with him so much as around him.
The frog thing is the most op and underused thing ever.
yeah i really dont get why people say he's boring.. (he's my no. 1 JoJo btw)
Mine too, but as an italian i am based af
@@no_name4796 pizza!
me too!
@@neondisguise1587 mo zallera
Ya he's my fav
Bro doesn’t smile laugh or show happiness for the entire show
I Thought the general opinion on Giorno Was he was the most interesting in the series, i was wrong Giorno is my favourite protagonist in JoJo I feel that people who think that Giorno Is "boring" didn't like Golden Wind or JoJo
I'm surprised there was anything solid left of Ciocolatta left to put into that garbage truck.
Lmao throughout the entire anime, i never felt giorno was in any real danger😅
My only problem with giorno is we didn’t get his introspective enough. I really liked how in the beginning we would know what he was thinking like when he fought Bruno and was like “oh shit he gotta punchy ghost too”
Yo the infinite Diavolo requiem is one of the coolest looking moments in the series, better than him getting punched out
It’s kinda of hard for giorno to change and truly develop when the part only spans for a couple of days, we overestimate just how much time passes.
Who said Giorno is boring??
I think that is because he had the least amount of character development in Bruno's gang and the fact that he ends up feeling a lot like Jotaro 2.0 even if they are completely different.
@@lightningdragon666 i dont think similar and same is the a same thing yes giorno is similar to jotaro in some ways but the difference is jotaro has some kind of friendship giorno is someone we learn more about and learn to like we slowly understand how someone so cold and charismatic has his own good reasons and is good in heart like in the start he bases out the facts but doesnt mean a good cause doesnt require sacrifices
@@saifkhan-kc9ec That is why I said that he come of as same to "people". My wording might have suggested that it was own thought of him, though it was just what I have seen others talk about him. A lot of people see him as just a "DIO version of Jotaro"
@@lightningdragon666 eh but to be fair its not majority from what most voting seems to imply on social media and utube
me, i am
Most people seems not to get that... Giorno is a sociopath.
The fact that fans have to have things spelled out for them to enjoy something is sad
I enjoyed the rest of the show, just as long as it's good, no need to have things spelled out. Seen a whole ton of defenses on Giorno and I still think he's shit.
Exactly my thoughts bro, Giorno is an amazing character.
So I have to like a character who follows a life of crime a violence because it appeals to his twisted sense of justice, is largely bald and without discernable personality, Usually goes for the most obvious line of attack despite alleged strategic genius and an extremely powerful stand - even before GER and who in the end just wins from a mindless powerup just because If I don't, I am dumb for not 'getting him'.
First of all, mafia IS violent indeed, but are you going to leave the problem to who? The police? The Italian government? They were all bought by Passione if you paid attention to the series. So yeah, it had to be fire vs fire from the beggining if Giorno wanted to change what's better for society.
Secondly, not all power-ups have to come due to training or some inherent logic to the anime, Giorno vs. Diavolo was more of an aesthetic representation of the fight between "the end justifies the means" versus truth itself and allow the power of destiny to overcome the fears of the heroes of part 5.
You ain't dumb for not getting it, you should rewatch it and be more patient, cause Golden Wind isn't the best at first glance.
Or maybe they just don't find him interesting?
Can't get enough of that 7 page beatdown and the wryyy slipped in it
Yea I don’t think this changes anything. In terms of Jojos, Giorno really doesn’t stand out character wise. He’s not exceptionally outgoing or witty like Joseph or Josuke, nor is he justice giving like Jotaro or Jolyne. He’s not even like Jonathan or Dio. He’s just, boring. The rest of the cast is interesting, having way cooler abilities and backstories, I just think that Giorno was kind of a let down.
"King Crimson is so confusing what"
Meanwhile Giorno turning suitcases into a damage reflecting frog:
I'd actually love to have a friend like Giorno. Bruno tho, he's the real MC of this part lol.
The fricking showing off of the abs at 0:46 only now I notice this
Giorno isn't boring, it's just Bruno is too awesome that he shadowed him. At first i seriously thought Bruno is the main character of this part, not Giorno
The both are great characters. I think if people actually tried to understand his character he wouldn’t have been so overshadowed by Bruno
Well, Bruno is the leader of the team, the story is as much about his rebellion against the Boss then anything. Girono is the catalyst, but Bruno is the glue that keeps the gang going.
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352well said! 👏
There are people who actually think they are in a position to say anything against/ judge any of Araki’s work?
For me, i just thinked they promised too much about this character and delivered too low. I don't feel like he is a bad character, but he is far away from what was promised in the beggining and from the points that made other protagonists so unique
I'll never get the Giorno, Jolyne, and Gappy slander. Smh...
Damn you're right, 4 minutes out of 39 22 minute episodes really is a lot of cool stuff
I like how the part with Giacchio was edited to cut out Giorno's speech, so it just seems like Giorno showed up, exchanged no words, and killed him instantly.
No one said he didn't have insane abilities, but doing cool shit is not a substitute for character development
True, they should have used the clip of him and Mista after their fight with Ghiaccio, when he drank Abacchio's piss with his jellyfish teeth, when he purposely let himself get caught by Zucchero to prove his loyalty and respect to Bucciarati, when he stood up for Narancia as he's being scolded by Fugo after he lost the groceries in his fight with Formaggio, when he tried desperately to signal Mista of Sale's presence only for it to not work at all and afterwards venting his anger out on the poor truck driver. Point is, there are lots of scenes showcasing Giorno's personality and character, same with Jotaro.
If you think giorno is an underdeveloped character you need to rewatch part 5 again cuz my god how stupid you would sound if you actually say that he’s literally just cold like his father not that hard to figure out he’s just a good guy version of dio 🥱
@@bigthickdaddy What ever do you mean? No one here said that he's "Literally just cold like his father."
@@bappojujubes981 I think its the fact that this doesn't show often, its static a lot of the time. Whenever we do see that side of Giorno its great, but I feel like he's just boring compared to other characters in a lot of fights. My favorite fight with him has to be against Baby Face where he is forced to think extremely quickly and ends up discovering a new ability. He had all the potential, it just felt static in the fights where he isn't the main focus. Like you said, Ghiacchio vs Mista, I couldn't stand Giorno. He came out of nowhere like a free win card at that point in what was otherwise an extremely interesting fight. Its almost like he's a bit too calm in those scenarios while we see him panic a lot earlier. I don't know how to describe it but its almost like he stopped feeling pain and we only get to see the determined side, not the struggles to hold onto hope.
ngl though I really love Giorno as a character, especially in the Car Ride at the end with Bruno and him. It really showed a lot of his personality and how he reacts to it, putting him through even more emotional pain now that Abbachio was also gone.
@@bigthickdaddy Fair point, but the problem is that we already figured that out at like mid-way of the show. Giorno did not grow, he has always been "Giorno". Except for part 7 and even 8 where Araki has started to implement character development, the other parts suffer the same way.
It's not to say that lacking character development equates to a boring character though, I personally think it's the impact they have on the other characters on a personal level. Take Jotaro as a bad example. He's stoic and plenty menacing, we get it. But he just doesn't contribute much to the part except as being a good friend. For many, that's already enough, but compared to the later parts, his stone-cold demeanour just isn't that captivating.
But then, to be fair, we could just say Araki has been growing as a manga artist as well as a story writer.
I keep forgetting how beautiful Part 5 visual is
I don’t think he is boring, but he definitely isn’t the most interesting JoJo. Part 5 was good bc all of the characters personalities played into eachother and made eachother mature and grow. Giorno didn’t have too much character development, instead he pushed the others into growing mentally. He was almost “perfect” from the beginning tbh
Villain: gets his head smashed in, pretty sure it's instead death.
Giorno: starts telling the villain about his stand power and tells him not to make him repeat himself.
giorno isnt boring its because of his backstory
For some reason, I kinda find Jotaro and Giorno almost the same. I can't put a finger on what it is, but it's something.
I mean he slowly becomes more and more like jotaro, someone who just learned what stands are and suddenly knows what to do every single second.
I chalk it up to him being a fast learner…plus he doesn’t know what to do for every situation…bro got incapacitated for majority of the fights he even so much as appeared in
i like how the damage reflect skill never appeared again
Even the last boss Diavolo did not get a wryyyyyyyyyyy out of Giorno.
People hate on Giorno's personality meanwhile Jotaro is literally the 🗿emoji
he was interesting only before joining the gang. then he was outshined by the side cast
It’s kind of weird because Gio right at the beginning of part 5 is nothing like he is at the end of part 5
But I don’t know if it’s character development or we just don’t see him steal anything anymore
He's actually pretty interesting at the start of Part 5, then just drops his personality into a river. RIP.
meanwhile bruno: *every single scene bruno is in ever*