I primarily do flux based welding and the fumes are pretty gnarly. I was looking at different fume extractors, and the price tag has postponed that upgrade. This basic little setup will help a lot with air quality in my shop. Thank you for making this video!
@@TimWelds Do you think that galvanized sheetmetal reducers would be ok (I cannot for the life of me find any aluminum reducers) ? I'm figuring that if the puddle is a good 8-10 feet away from the reductor placed onto the blower, that there should not be an noxious fumes created (I am guessing that the fumes would not be sufficiently hot to have such an effect by the time they have traveled to the glower unit) .... what do you (and others) think ?
I'm setting one up now with the sad, beat up little Lasko blower I have lying around. I attached a 6 inch stack boot to one end of the blower since it's square, and modified the other end to accept a 6 inch starting collar. I cut out a piece of 3/4 plywood to fit my window (like a window AC) and I attached another 6 inch stack boot to it. It was a bit time consuming and looks heinous thanks to the use of "great stuff" in some difficult-to-seal areas, but I hopefully have something that I can leave installed all the time. I'm planning on packing it with insulation so it's good to go in the winter. The last piece of it is building the actual hood - I got an 8 inch to 6 inch reducer as well as a 14x6 to 8 inch register box to serve as an "exhaust hood." The idea being I want to increase the extraction area at the expense of static pressure. This is mainly because I primarily plan on MIG welding and don't want too much of the shielding gas to get pulled away.
Great job! I've been in healthcare for 30+ years and occasionally weld. I wish everyone that welded had a set up like this. It's much better than what I have. I'll be copying this now. Cool reference, I Loved the Red Green show. I definitely think you made ol' Red proud with this one. And remember, keep your stick on the ice, cause he'll be pulling for ya.
I have been welding for some time and still learn some tricks to the trade from you. I am glad you covered this subject because welding fumes are very carcinogenic! I believe anyone that welds needs to make a concerted effort to exhaust those toxic fumes. Welding is fun, let's make it safe!
Finally, just the video I was looking for. As someone who wants to begin welding, the potential health effects were concerning. I hadn't found any budget-/DIY-friendly options. Thanks for this.
Thanks Tim. I built this and it works great. Put mine on a stand up 2 wheel cart for storage and mobility. Can use vertically or horizontally. Great idea. Glad I found your channel. Don't know how to add a picture but easy to imagine
That's way cool. I've been looking at 4-inch inline duct fans at like 150 CFPM; had no idea HF offered this monster. I think I'm changing my plan. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome confirmation of an idea I already realized in my garage. This really works. I have air pipes on the ceiling as well as the ventilator. Cheap and working solution.
I liied this so much that I went out and bought the stuff and buikt it today. Works great! HD only had an 8->6 reducer so I had to do the rest with duct tape. On the output side, I used a jumbo ziplock bag and duct tape so it fills out when I turn it on. Wish I could post a pic.
Hi, Tim. You may find it helpful, to get another adapter (like you put on the blower) and put it on the collection end of the tube. That way, it should pull air from a wider area, but still be somewhat directional, in it's collection. This is, pretty much, what you see in other welding shops.. You may also want to find or create an articulating arm arrangement, to hold it where you need it.
I'm in the process of building a workshop; it's currently a big sealed box (no windows, one door), so I'm looking at fitting a big fan through the wall opposite the door; I like the idea of the ducting to aim the ventilation when I need to.
its so funny ive had a inline fan and the tubing for plants i use to grow indoors and for years never thought to use it for this purpose in my garage until today lol then i looked online to see if others did the same and i find this video. Its so funny how simple and effective this is
I did the same thing in my barn/ shop except I used an inline 6 inch blower going out a 6" dryer duct works great when I'm stick or mig/ flux core welding
Hopefully this helps some folks. I picked up a 8" to 6" duct reducer with some 6" x 8' semi-rigid aluminum ducting. The 8" to 6" reducer did NOT come crimped so the 6" x 8' round ducting wouldn't fit. Soooo I bought a pair of 5-blade ducting/HVAC pliers to add the crimp and it fits like a glove now.
Thanks, I didn't know there was such a thing. I bought a few splice collars and now I'm thinking I should have just bought the ducting pliers instead. At least that way you come away with a free tool at the end of it!
On behalf of Canada, thanks for the Red Green shoutout! Prior to it, I thought, "Whoa! Actually using duct tape for duct?" Keep yer stick on the ice! Also thanks for these diy home gamer setups. Much appreciated for when I start to learn to burn sticks 👍
I met Red Green at the post office once. He was on his phone in line behind me and I immediately recognized the voice. Waited outside to shake his hand when he was leaving. Super nice guy!
This is great. I did one too. The only problem I found is that putting the tube outside an open door usually means that half the time a breeze blows it right back in. I had to remove a pane of glass from a window in the garage, where I do my welding, and make a polycarbonate pane with a hole in it, and placing the tube in that. When I’m not using it I replace the pane with another one that fills the opening. The blower I was able to find nas two speeds.
I live in Honduras and here there is no safety regulations what so ever and that Idea looks great I tried something like that but whit a fan 26 x 26" and nothing else it was actually blowing at me and not really sucking the fumes from the weld. it did go that good at all love the idea
I just us a square fan xD it works. Especially when I'm under a truck I lay it on the engine bay and it definitely sucks the smoke out very well, but I'm gunna make one of these also, thanks for the video 👍🏼
As always informative and helpful, but the one I made is very much similar to yours but to turn the fan output down I put a small rheostat on it that I got at the hardware store to slow the fan down and it works great. Thanks for another great video
Wow Tim that fast , I thought I'd give one of the things I've learned since I've learned so much from your Channel . Nothing like burning rod👍😉 @@TimWelds
Thanks Tim! Another good, well thought out vid. You make everything look so...”doable”, and I appreciate that more than you know. Looking forward to your next release : )
I just needed a new inner tube for my beach cruiser bicycle. No need whatsoever for this fume extractor idea but it looks so friggin cool that I bought one. wish I knew what it was for. Oh well. Off to the park for a bike ride!
Thanks Tim for a great idea, I have the welder birthday present haven’t turned it on yet the issue of fumes was floating around in my head but you have provided some kind of options for me to consider. So as soon as I can get in front of the other things getting in the way of me making a start on my welding journey I will have one less thing to consider. Thanks again
I was curious if something like this would work, great to see it in action, always dragged my welder outside and used a fan to blow accross my work piece, really paranoid about welding fumes, nasty stuff
I was installing a duct for my wife's dryer a while back. as I was putting the duct tape on, I realized that was the first time in my life I had ever used duct tape on duct. I must have used kilometers of the stuff in my life for absolutely everything else. From something like closing bags to stopping leaks in a canoe a hundred km from civilization.
You could mount it under the table and adjust where you're welding on the plate and draw fumes out and down. Sister had a vent at the same level as the stove and worked great.😆 Or maybe box in the underside of the table.🤷♂️
tim, next consider making a hood ventilator with a hair dryer(no heat and low setting) and flexible tube.....combined with your extractor, you will be golden for life for under 100 bucks
Love your channel. I just welded for the first time. Is it normal to get a wicked sore throat and almost a cold? I didn't weld for long but now I'll wear a respirator
The distance from the fume source and fume hood is very important in fume extraction . The 2nd example is not really pulling fumes due to the distance . I think a lower cfm or suction pressure closer to the fumes would be better imo
Depending on what's beyond the door, you might consider a filter. Shop vac filter might work. Alternate approach I have used (when already in good ventilation) is allergy furnace filter taped to box fan.
Great suggestion! I wanted to use a filter, but I worry about it catching on fire without a proper spark arrester and perhaps flame retardant. It's probably unlikely, but I have seen a couple industrial filter units go up in flames because they didn't have proper spark arresters.
I have a question. Once these particles are outside, do they just stay in the area forever or is there a half life? I want to replicate this system. I was just wondering if I am just moving dangerous particles from one area to another? Thank you for sharing your setup!
So I have a slightly different application. I have a curing machine which has two chimneys that vapor/fumes come out of. Can I put a splitter on this and have maybe two 3 inch vents siphoning fumes at the same time? What do you think? I'm also thinking about putting 8-inch vent on the backside and sticking that through the wall so it vents outside during the wintertime. What do you think?
For sencible people - it's around 2.8L/s so it will actually give you understanding that you are moving around 3 litres per second. Nobody can asses on amateur level the capacity if you stretch it over minutes or hours on things that are happening right under your nose. And it around 166L/m
Nic ideal I weld also....Hey!!!!!!!!!!! 😆🤣😂 I'm wanting to invent a smoke alarm that sucks smoke out of a house 🏠 I was thinking it could possibly be done to a sertin exstint but there a lot of safety issues needing help ....thanks
"A basic setup that works is better than one that's so complex that I never get around to building it" that really hit home for me 😅
The best things are simple, effective, and things you will actually use. Great job, Tim!
Red Green gave me so many life lessons too!
So many life lessons. Definitely a core part of my education.
“So remember...If the women don’t find you handsome... at least they’ll find you handy”
Nobody has ever been able to say I'm not handy and I still keep gorilla tape in my vehicle and backpack for an emergency.
Guarantee you now use this exact set up for 10 years with no adjustments and no brackets. Bravo 👍.
hey if it works and not broke don't fix it
@@ShortCrypticTales my point exactly 👍
Lolol
He now has a Fume Dog
I primarily do flux based welding and the fumes are pretty gnarly. I was looking at different fume extractors, and the price tag has postponed that upgrade. This basic little setup will help a lot with air quality in my shop. Thank you for making this video!
Thanks! I've been putting it off for a long time too, and I saw this blower on sale and thought that it might be a nice, simple option.
@@TimWelds you’re welcome man! 🙂
@@TimWelds Do you think that galvanized sheetmetal reducers would be ok (I cannot for the life of me find any aluminum reducers) ? I'm figuring that if the puddle is a good 8-10 feet away from the reductor placed onto the blower, that there should not be an noxious fumes created (I am guessing that the fumes would not be sufficiently hot to have such an effect by the time they have traveled to the glower unit) .... what do you (and others) think ?
The price tag has prolly postponed most of us
@@grassabrutta I think your fine
I'm setting one up now with the sad, beat up little Lasko blower I have lying around. I attached a 6 inch stack boot to one end of the blower since it's square, and modified the other end to accept a 6 inch starting collar. I cut out a piece of 3/4 plywood to fit my window (like a window AC) and I attached another 6 inch stack boot to it. It was a bit time consuming and looks heinous thanks to the use of "great stuff" in some difficult-to-seal areas, but I hopefully have something that I can leave installed all the time. I'm planning on packing it with insulation so it's good to go in the winter. The last piece of it is building the actual hood - I got an 8 inch to 6 inch reducer as well as a 14x6 to 8 inch register box to serve as an "exhaust hood." The idea being I want to increase the extraction area at the expense of static pressure. This is mainly because I primarily plan on MIG welding and don't want too much of the shielding gas to get pulled away.
Great job! I've been in healthcare for 30+ years and occasionally weld. I wish everyone that welded had a set up like this. It's much better than what I have. I'll be copying this now. Cool reference, I Loved the Red Green show. I definitely think you made ol' Red proud with this one. And remember, keep your stick on the ice, cause he'll be pulling for ya.
Red Green would be extremely proud. Great idea for a build-going to have to make one of these versus a fan blowing air across my area.
I have been welding for some time and still learn some tricks to the trade from you. I am glad you covered this subject because welding fumes are very carcinogenic! I believe anyone that welds needs to make a concerted effort to exhaust those toxic fumes. Welding is fun, let's make it safe!
Finally, just the video I was looking for. As someone who wants to begin welding, the potential health effects were concerning. I hadn't found any budget-/DIY-friendly options. Thanks for this.
Tim, this a terrific idea, thank you!! I've been thinking about how to do just this. Genius!!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm literally going to build this today. thanks for all your videos I learn a lot from them.
Im a beginning welder like super new and i was concerned about the fumes too, im going to copy this thank you.
I used it again today, and it really did help quite a bit.
Tim, thank you for this simple build, even my simple mind can handle this.
Nice reference, Love red green! Excellent use of the handyman’s secret weapon.
Nice and simple. Think about using magnets for the hose fan attachment.
Great idea! That would be a perfect way to position it, especially when I'm working on a larger frame that doesn't fit on the bench.
Simple yet so affective. Thank you for the brilliant idea. Now to go shopping 🤪
Thanks Tim. I built this and it works great. Put mine on a stand up 2 wheel cart for storage and mobility. Can use vertically or horizontally. Great idea. Glad I found your channel. Don't know how to add a picture but easy to imagine
Great idea!
love the “basic-ness”! gives me some good ideas for my set up. Thanks! Great video!
Loved the Red Green reference, and thank you for this video.
FANTASTIC IDEA!!!!....Now I know what this weekend's project will be!! Keep putting out your great content!👍🏻🥃
That's way cool. I've been looking at 4-inch inline duct fans at like 150 CFPM; had no idea HF offered this monster. I think I'm changing my plan. Thanks for sharing!
I was gonna attempt to build this exact same setup for my garage. Glad to see it works well! Appreciate the content
Awesome! It's simple, but works well.
Oh my goodness all these years of red green show 😅 great humour
Red Green show was the best! Thanks for sharing.
Great idea! I’m going to do the same thing, thank you!
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how it works.
Awesome confirmation of an idea I already realized in my garage. This really works. I have air pipes on the ceiling as well as the ventilator. Cheap and working solution.
Thanks! I'm thinking that I may add some permeant ductwork now that I've seen the concept work.
I liied this so much that I went out and bought the stuff and buikt it today. Works great! HD only had an 8->6 reducer so I had to do the rest with duct tape. On the output side, I used a jumbo ziplock bag and duct tape so it fills out when I turn it on. Wish I could post a pic.
What’s the purpose of the ziploc?
Hi, Tim. You may find it helpful, to get another adapter (like you put on the blower) and put it on the collection end of the tube.
That way, it should pull air from a wider area, but still be somewhat directional, in it's collection.
This is, pretty much, what you see in other welding shops..
You may also want to find or create an articulating arm arrangement, to hold it where you need it.
This is how it should be. Reasonably economical and effective.
Thanks! No reason to overcomplicate some things.
This is exactly what I did 👌🏼 it works perfectly
Very Cool!
I'm in the process of building a workshop; it's currently a big sealed box (no windows, one door), so I'm looking at fitting a big fan through the wall opposite the door; I like the idea of the ducting to aim the ventilation when I need to.
Very cool! One day, I would like to duct the blower in permanently with a vent outside. Good luck with the shop!
its so funny ive had a inline fan and the tubing for plants i use to grow indoors and for years never thought to use it for this purpose in my garage until today lol then i looked online to see if others did the same and i find this video. Its so funny how simple and effective this is
I did the same thing in my barn/ shop except I used an inline 6 inch blower going out a 6" dryer duct works great when I'm stick or mig/ flux core welding
I may have to add the dryer duct down the road, that would make things way more convenient. Thanks for the tip!
Hopefully this helps some folks. I picked up a 8" to 6" duct reducer with some 6" x 8' semi-rigid aluminum ducting. The 8" to 6" reducer did NOT come crimped so the 6" x 8' round ducting wouldn't fit. Soooo I bought a pair of 5-blade ducting/HVAC pliers to add the crimp and it fits like a glove now.
Ah, yes! I was looking for your comment, am about to build this tomorrow! Thank you!
Thanks, I didn't know there was such a thing. I bought a few splice collars and now I'm thinking I should have just bought the ducting pliers instead. At least that way you come away with a free tool at the end of it!
On behalf of Canada, thanks for the Red Green shoutout! Prior to it, I thought, "Whoa! Actually using duct tape for duct?"
Keep yer stick on the ice! Also thanks for these diy home gamer setups. Much appreciated for when I start to learn to burn sticks 👍
You got it man, it works! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
Simple and effective solution. Will give it a whirl. Thx for sharing .
I met Red Green at the post office once. He was on his phone in line behind me and I immediately recognized the voice. Waited outside to shake his hand when he was leaving. Super nice guy!
That's awesome! I would love to meet that guy, I still watch the old episodes from time to time.
@@TimWelds he was doing a stand up comedy tour pre-covid. Mostly Canadian dates tho...
You get a like just for mentioning Red/Green! I loved watching that with my dad, lost him this year...
This is great. I did one too. The only problem I found is that putting the tube outside an open door usually means that half the time a breeze blows it right back in. I had to remove a pane of glass from a window in the garage, where I do my welding, and make a polycarbonate pane with a hole in it, and placing the tube in that. When I’m not using it I replace the pane with another one that fills the opening.
The blower I was able to find nas two speeds.
Thanks! That’s a great idea. I’m already thinking that I might do a more permanent installation with a hole in the wall.
Awesome, I was wanting to build something like this, just have a small desk fan right now, this would be way better!
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how it works.
@@TimWelds Thank you for always sharing with us bro!
@@TimWelds also dont worry about the tape so much, your actually using "Duct tape" for it's intended purpose ha ha.
So awesome, one thing that’s bothered me in my shop, totally already got everything needed to build one... doin it!
Go for it!
I live in Honduras and here there is no safety regulations what so ever
and that Idea looks great
I tried something like that but whit a fan 26 x 26" and nothing else
it was actually blowing at me and not really sucking the fumes from the weld.
it did go that good at all
love the idea
I've missed this video. Appreciate your forwarding response to my question following video.
I just us a square fan xD it works. Especially when I'm under a truck I lay it on the engine bay and it definitely sucks the smoke out very well, but I'm gunna make one of these also, thanks for the video 👍🏼
That's a great idea! I should probably get one of those too, since I'm often not at a bench.
Beauty of a video. That's similar to what I'm doing. I like the portability of your set up, you just gave me a great idea. 👍
Fantastic video, thank you. Found a ventilation fan with 33 feet of ducting on amazon. My shop will be soon be smoke free!
As always informative and helpful, but the one I made is very much similar to yours but to turn the fan output down I put a small rheostat on it that I got at the hardware store to slow the fan down and it works great. Thanks for another great video
That's a great idea! it would be nice to be able to turn it down a bit. Thanks!
Wow Tim that fast , I thought I'd give one of the things I've learned since I've learned so much from your Channel . Nothing like burning rod👍😉 @@TimWelds
Thanks Tim! Another good, well thought out vid. You make everything look so...”doable”, and I appreciate that more than you know. Looking forward to your next release : )
Love an American making a Red Green reference! Keep your stick on the ice Tim
What a classic show!
I just needed a new inner tube for my beach cruiser bicycle. No need whatsoever for this fume extractor idea but it looks so friggin cool that I bought one. wish I knew what it was for. Oh well. Off to the park for a bike ride!
Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Tim for a great idea, I have the welder birthday present haven’t turned it on yet the issue of fumes was floating around in my head but you have provided some kind of options for me to consider. So as soon as I can get in front of the other things getting in the way of me making a start on my welding journey I will have one less thing to consider. Thanks again
I was curious if something like this would work, great to see it in action, always dragged my welder outside and used a fan to blow accross my work piece, really paranoid about welding fumes, nasty stuff
Hey welcome to the shap!
Love your videos man.
That made me wanna learn welding and it's affordable
Thanks for the videos Tim, once again it is appreciated!!
Nice one!
Good idea Tim...... thanks!
I was installing a duct for my wife's dryer a while back.
as I was putting the duct tape on, I realized that was the first time in my life I had ever used duct tape on duct. I must have used kilometers of the stuff in my life for absolutely everything else. From something like closing bags to stopping leaks in a canoe a hundred km from civilization.
That's funny! I use the stuff all the time, but rarely on any duct work.
Can you please link some items in amazon that might give us the reference for these materials? Thank you.
If you think that's fumy, try using flux core mig welding. Good vid .
What he is saying is no guarantee but it well help more than nothing...it is effective!
Great idea !!! Thanks Tim
Good idea
Thanks!
If they don’t find you handsome they should at least find you handy-red
Really appreciate your tutelage and your video series. Do you have experience with PAPR systems?
I've seen them and they seem like a great option, but I have never had one personally. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Excellent!👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Love your shoo
Great idea. I wonder if that fan could be set up for variable speed.
It has 2 speeds as it is, but a speed controller would be a really nice addition! Thanks!
this is excellent
Thanks!
You could mount it under the table and adjust where you're welding on the plate and draw fumes out and down. Sister had a vent at the same level as the stove and worked great.😆 Or maybe box in the underside of the table.🤷♂️
tim, next consider making a hood ventilator with a hair dryer(no heat and low setting) and flexible tube.....combined with your extractor, you will be golden for life for under 100 bucks
Love your channel. I just welded for the first time. Is it normal to get a wicked sore throat and almost a cold? I didn't weld for long but now I'll wear a respirator
Thanks! That can happen. Google “metal fume fever.”
I have 4 X 150mm pc fans on a board with Flexi tube connected and aimed outside via a fleece filter.
Nice! I bet that pulls a ton of air!
The distance from the fume source and fume hood is very important in fume extraction . The 2nd example is not really pulling fumes due to the distance . I think a lower cfm or suction pressure closer to the fumes would be better imo
Try the Harbor Freight dust collector with the hose kit they sell for it. Works better than that crappy thin metal dryer vent.
I’ll have to check that out. Thanks!
Great video. Have you considered using a fan with an activated charcoal filter in stead of venting the smoke outside?
You can use air 10" for out flow
That would be perfect for a larger area where the door isn't right there. Thanks!
Is it increasing the fire 🔥 tho because with my ideal that's one of the most conserns ❤
@TimWelds nice job! Simple and effective. Have you been watching the blower over time to see if the fumes are doing anything to it?
I say YES 👍
Neighbor wanna thank you so much
You left out a link to the purchase of the budget friendly ducting, shown in the video.
Brackets, tape!? Tig it all!
Depending on what's beyond the door, you might consider a filter. Shop vac filter might work. Alternate approach I have used (when already in good ventilation) is allergy furnace filter taped to box fan.
Great suggestion! I wanted to use a filter, but I worry about it catching on fire without a proper spark arrester and perhaps flame retardant. It's probably unlikely, but I have seen a couple industrial filter units go up in flames because they didn't have proper spark arresters.
my lung are not for a cancer, my like for you, brah
Thanks!
I have a question. Once these particles are outside, do they just stay in the area forever or is there a half life? I want to replicate this system. I was just wondering if I am just moving dangerous particles from one area to another? Thank you for sharing your setup!
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." Red Green
So I have a slightly different application. I have a curing machine which has two chimneys that vapor/fumes come out of. Can I put a splitter on this and have maybe two 3 inch vents siphoning fumes at the same time? What do you think?
I'm also thinking about putting 8-inch vent on the backside and sticking that through the wall so it vents outside during the wintertime. What do you think?
For sencible people - it's around 2.8L/s so it will actually give you understanding that you are moving around 3 litres per second. Nobody can asses on amateur level the capacity if you stretch it over minutes or hours on things that are happening right under your nose. And it around 166L/m
I considered this when I saw this blower at harbor freight. How has it held up? Seems like it has mixed reviews.
I read somewhere that duct tape is extremely useful for almost anything except taping ducts.
But how do you permanently install this to the wall?
Nic ideal I weld also....Hey!!!!!!!!!!! 😆🤣😂 I'm wanting to invent a smoke alarm that sucks smoke out of a house 🏠 I was thinking it could possibly be done to a sertin exstint but there a lot of safety issues needing help ....thanks
Do you run it on high or low speed?
👍🏾
Even tig on steel has started to make me sick after 21yrs of doing it. I start to dislike welding if the fumes start making me ill
27 cuft ~ 1CuM
So this thing will pump roughly 59 cubic metres of air per minute. Thats almost 1CuM a second, not bad!