South Africa’s ICJ genocide case against Israel over Gaza war was ‘very impressive’: Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Thomas MacManus, senior lecturer in state crime at the School of Law, Queen Mary University of London, tells Al Jazeera that South Africa’s case was “very impressive”.
“They set out in a very concise way some devastating accusations strung together in such a legally sound way,” MacManus said, adding that he was impressed by the way its representatives presented the conduct and intent as well as their points related to jurisdiction.
South Africa’s arguments related to the urgency of the case, MacManus said, will be “the most devastating” from Israel’s point of view.
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As a South African that was on the receiving end of apartheid 😢, experienced and still appreciate to this day the then international support 🙌🏽; what an important time to be alive…to be able to support the marginalised just because of where they were born🍉. History teaches us that once all egoism has been exhausted, albeit at the cost of innocent civilians that most likely have no active interest in the egoistic or greedy intentions of those in power, the only sustainable and proven solution becomes acceptance from all angles ❤. I am proud of my country, in its diversity, that took this remarkable, noble and bold stance despite our own domestic problems.
History will never pass what South Africa has done,,,,,,To stand up for what is right
Just wondering that quotation of Holly Book for South African very honorable for me person became the precedent to accuse.
Or how that did prove that all 17700 dead men has not a weapon in their hand at the moment of death.
That is not a court
That is a circus
Very naive my poor Palestinians, on what do you hope?
It is ronical that the people who spurred the creation of ICJ in 1948 & the whole world swore "never again" are the same people being accused of committing genocide against Palestinians. This is a watershed moment that should enrage the world and hold the US & Israel accountable.
South Africa can't even present a reliable and consistent supply of electricity to its people... 😂😂
@@richardpalmer8478 where is the connection?
You have electricity but you are brain.less 😎
it takes a country which has fought against colonialism and apartheid where the UK, USA and Israel were the main backers to take this on. They have lived this kind of barbarity, the USA and UK supported apartheid South Africa all through the 1980's, Israel broke arms embargo's to keep SA army will stocked.
Huge Respect for South Africa! 🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾❤
To watch the Mandela statue in Ramalla and the south African flag had me in tears as a South African. Viva my country. Today i know what patriotism is.
You can be proud of your country, as most of the world is 🙏❤.
I was in tears too and I'm not South African or Palestinian. LOL. It was a heart warming scene for sure!
You are my dear....humanity is above all
Shove your "Viva" where the sun does not shine.
Proud to be SOuth African....we should stand up for anyone appressed after what we experienced...Palestinian freedom was Madibas wish. Viva Nalson Mandela Viva.
South Africa's courage deserves a praise! Shame on all the islamic countries who are just watching the genocide happening and doing nothing about it
Tribalist
My guess is that they are doing stuff about it. They are letting the people the West dislikes but can't touch stand on stage. Meanwhile the big dogs are snarling at each other behind the scenes.
South Africa did not just come up with this and do it on it's own. They had help, and that help is watching to make sure all the "i's" are dotted and the "t's" are crossed before China, India, Brazil and Russia stroll in and drive a peace deal.
All that being said, South Africa rocks!
@@MustardSkavennot at all
Lots of them have backed up and fully supported SA.
DISGUSTING TO JUST WATCH AND DI ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. SHAMEFUL.
Thank you SA for speaking the truth in a world complicit in deceit
End the occupation, stop the genocide
Think back to 7/10 and just who started this in the first place.
@@SaxonsGlory Your so dumb, this started in 1948 when isreal committed ethnic cleansing to establish their illegal terror state. Thousands of people were displaced. So over 75 yrs the slaughter of these people, the theft of their land and violent colonial oppression has continued. These people are dehumanised and subjugated. Their water,electricity and food controlled, they have no army, navy, airforce or airport. Their women and children imprisoned and 2 million people living in the an open air prison on their own land. Hamas wanted them to release these prisoners and hostages, peaceful solutions were unsuccessful, where there is injustice there can be no peace. Where there is occupation, there is a right to resistance. It doesn't suit your white supremacist ideology to rectify your ignorance , so Carry on with your idiotic rhetoric but the world is not fooled.
@@SaxonsGlory Get your self educated. The terror state of Isreal was established in 1948 by the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, thousands were slaughtered and displaced. The violent colonial occupation has continued throughout the past 76 yrs. The land theft, slaughter, displacement, subjugation and imprisonment of innocent women and children. Their human rights are systematically abused. Their water, electricity and food controlled. They are suffering an apartheid, they have no airport, navy, army or airforce . 2 million people are caged in an open air prison. These people have a right to resist illegal occupation. However your colonial mindset and white supremacist ideology wants to muffle the voices that stand against oppression. The world is not fooled.
@@SaxonsGlory
A colonizer have no right to defend itself, it was said so yesterday in court,, so 7/10 victim card is useless.
@@zayn6687 And you believe that bull..... there are thousands of trees out there that work hard to produce the oxygen we need to breathe, you owe those trees an apology.
*"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians..." - Nelson Mandela*
Proud to be South African today - this is what we stand for . we have endured a brutal apartheid regine for decades and we won in the end. We want the same for our brothers and sisters in Palestine just like Mandela wanted the same thing.
SOUTH AFRICAS COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE A LONG WAY AWAY FROM THEM AND YET WILL, DO WHAT IS RIGHT, WILL NEVER EVER BE FORGOTTEN, THEY HAVE PLACED THEMSELVES, IN HISTORY BOOKS AS, A TRULY GREAT COUNTRY WHO WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES. THANK YOU, WE WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT, YOU ARE DOING FOR MY PEOPLE.
@NoShirtCarlosDetroit Free Palestine ! keep up the good fight friend, dont lose hope
South Africa has experienced something similar and they know the feeling. Blessed
Mandela, indimenticabile uomo❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
We pray for the ICJ to take the right decision that will save many Palestinian lives and stop the genocide. Love from France ♥
I am ashamed that every country has not done the same, but now we can see how much our governments care about people! Thank you SA for standing on the side of truth and fighting for the same ❤
@@carlosfasano800 and the worst of it all is that they use our money for it
Oct 7 opened thier eyes and hearts
I agree. Now, perhaps, our government can start caring for its own people
This case brought by SOUTH AFRICA is backed by 57 countries of the OIC and the 22 countries of ARAB LEAGUE and in fact the entirety of the GLOBAL SOUTH.
Proud to be African!!!
South Africa has courageously taken the lead in initiating legal proceedings against Israel over the alleged genocide in Gaza. The silence from countries like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates on this issue is disheartening. Their inaction clearly signals their alignment with Israel. We express our heartfelt appreciation to South Africa for its bold stand in defense of humanity.
They decided not to bring the case, because SA bringing it was more impactful. The Palestinian observer at the UN let that slip at the end of a press conference on Monday or Tuesday. Can't remember the exact day right now. So, no, they are not with Israel.
Also they are supporting the case as a group via the OIC and the Arabic Legue. You might want to take a look at the Wikipedia page about the case. It lists all countries in support of SA bringing the case., including the 57 nations of the OIC.
@@MsJacobowskiThe muslim organisation joined South Africa last week, there are 57 muslim countries in this organisation
They are with South Africa, they joined last week, 57 muslim countries are backing South Africa
100+ Chilean lawyers are also backing South Africa, also Turkiye
Why should Isriael not be called as a tierriorist for they did and are still doing? Killed 9000 children in 3 months.
They are terrorists. They embody the term in its entirety.
I agree! They are just terrorists in uniforms backed by the biggest terrorist of all the USA! The USA has murdered more people than any other country this and last century.
Terrorists are Hama's
South Africa's case began with a huge LIE
"The only way to get aid to Palestinians is for Israel to stop fighting"
Wrong : Hamas could stop fighting and release all hostages
South Africa are pro-Hamas liars !
Nobody disagrees they're not except for sociopaths, racists, and the ignorant
Salam Salam to south Africa for standing bravely with oppressed Palestinians.
Walaikum Salaam, from South africa - we will never stop until the Palestinians are free and this murder stops! Never!! even if we do this alone and no one supports us we will continue . This is what our Founding leader wanted, Nelson Mandela and what all south africans want!
South Africa's case began with a huge LIE
"The only way to get aid to Palestinians is for Israel to stop fighting"
Wrong : Hamas could stop fighting and release all hostages
South Africa are pro-Hamas liars !
Proud of South Africa 🇿🇦 ❤ from Iraq
I guess Israel have the right to defend
you welcome
"We must not be silent while witnessing injustice. Israel is committing war crimes and the U.S. is complicit." - Perceived Reality
Well said 👍....At least one country is prepared to stand up against INJUSTICE!!.... BLACK South Africans certainly KNOW what INJUSTICE is!!
Well done South Africa..so proud today to be South African..great methodical presentation .. unambiguous..truthful...may your effort be rewarded by true justice and with the might of Christ...🎉🎉🎉🎉
Well I am ashamed to be one speak for yourself what a disgrace who started this mess not israel but HAMAS
South Africa is fighting the system of the Anti Christ.
God bless SA and protect them from the 3rd forces who will try and destabilize them for standing up for justice.
@@martinh231Zionist PIG
Amen brother 🗣✌🏼
@@martinh231 I dont condom the attacks in October by Hamas..but this war started over 70 years ago by Jews invading and occupying Palestinian land with help from the British and French..in the last 2 decades Israels has continualy kicked Palestinians out of their legaly owned homes..forced them into a concentration camp called Gaza...just like tje apartheid regime in South Africa did..evicting Africans from farm land ..colourds from Distric six and so much more...then forceing them into townships..Bantu stands..torture and murder anybody who disagreed...the difference is Israel has gone 10 steps further..bombing and killing innocent woman and children..wounded..starving them..just because Hamas showed the world the falicy of Israel..their military can be beaten..there resolve destroyed and their so called believe they the chosen people...all trashed now..may Christ punish the Jews for lack of humanitarian behaviour and genocide...viva BRICS viva South Africa 👏👏👏👏👏👏
So proud of each one of them and every South African who steadfastly upholds what is just!
Love my country!
❤ 🇿🇦 🇵🇸
May Allah bless you all with health and happiness
Deluded!!!!!
@@SaxonsGlory here is our colonial white supremacist again
One sided rubbish.
@@martinfurman7127 And "rubbish" is exactly what this legal action is and will not achieve anything except the laughter of the civilised world.
I'm a South African Muslim and the world didn't expect our South African lawyers to be so eloquent and clever... Long live South Africa Long live 🇿🇦🇯🇴
I AM A SOUTH AFRICAN NON MUSLIM MOSLIM . I KNOW ITS NEARING ELECTIONS . SO TO GARNER VOTES GET MUSLIM MOSLIM PRO PALESTINIAN VOTES THIS WAS THE SUPPOSED CLEVER IDEA. SA KNEW THAT THERE WILL BE NO ACTIONS FOR THEIR APPLICATION. AS THEY DID NOT HAVE A DISPUTE BY CALLING FOR A MEETING BUT RAN TO THIS COURT. THIS COURT LISTENS TO THE BOTH PARTIES. THEN TAKES YEARS FOR A DECISION. AS YOU COULD NOTE SA THOUGHT OR WAS WISHING A VERDICT WILL BE GIVEN TO CEASE FIRE. ALL THERE ARGUMENTS WERE MET 101%
BY ISRAEL. SHOCKED THE WORLD WHO SUPPORT TERRORISTS NADA HAPPEND.
GOD WILL ALWAYS PROTECT SUPPORT GUIDE ISRAEL BECAUSE ISRAEL BELONGS TO NO ONE BUT HIM ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BOOK BIBLE. ITS PROVEN YEARS OVER THE BATTLE BELONGS TO HIM.HE SAID IS ISAIAH 31 HE WILL PROTECT ISRAEL. SO HERE HE GAVE ISRAEL SOO MUCH WISDOM TO COUNTER THE APPLICATION WITH SO MUCH LIVING EVIDENCE WHICH THE WORLD AND YOU SND SA ATTORNEYS JUDGES AND ALL SORTS TO LOOK AGAIN WHO IS GENECIDEL. TERRORISTS RAPISTS MURDERERS KIDNAPPERS. HOSPITALS SCHOOLS MISQUES AMBULANCES ARE ALL USED BY THESE TERRORIST.
WHAT MORE MUST IT TAKE FOR PEOPLE EYES TO BE OPENED TO SEE.
I AMD MILLIONS WHO FEAR GOD NOT TERRORISTS SAW. SA ONLY SAW VOTES COMING IN NOT WHAT HAPPEND 7TH. IT WAS TOLD BY NALEDI PANDORS OWN MOUTH ON AIR SABC ITS FAKE NEWS. SHAME FOR ALL THE BLIND PEOPLE
I bet you’re right! Here in the UK none of the domestic news channels live streamed the South African proceedings, relegating it to brief reports. They did, however, live stream the Israeli rebuttal. Funny, that!
😂Very revealing of their intent
Oh believe me brother I knew South Africa 🇿🇦 were not playing around when they bought this up to the icj
I agree the presentation was very impressive. Even someone like me could easily follow their legal analysis. They explained many things in a very easy way to understand and illustrate everything and everything was very well summarised. Probably the most educated way to explain and demonstrate the alleged crimes committed by Israel. South Africa not only took a firm stance against genocide but also gave me hope on the concept of “international law”. Only regret is that South Africa was pretty much alone with the crimes committed by Israel and financed by the US.
I saw 1 french politician from the left was at the La Haye
@@shalimar1792 that is correct Jean Luc Melenchon the leader of the left political party. Same with the UK Jeremy Corbyn went there the former leader of the Labour Party.
@@mvubu6823irish lady was pure clasds 🇮🇪👏👏👏
Whole heartedly salute to South Africa.
If this not Genocide I don't know what is it
South Africa’s bravery, honor, and courage is very impressive and inspiring
HOW COME AN OCCUPIER HAS THE RIGHTS OF SELF-DEFENCE ??? SHAME ON THOSE WHO MISSINTERPREAT THE TERM OF SELF - DEFENCE
Proud to be South African
South africa 🇿🇦 ❤❤❤
I wish the Palestinian people could watch the ICJ case, but they are too busy trying to survive.❤
Thanks to South Africa for standing with Humanity.
This speech should be on every media portal !
Lol, even October 7
@@franklincassidy4927 have a shower 🤣🤣🤣
How much do they pay for comments?
I saw you tried very hard 🤣🤣🤣
Arab countries should learn from South Africa .Thank you so much for standing for justice in an unjust world❤🇮🇳
Israel has been doing this for decades.
And shame on us for letting them
One of the best legal presentations by the SA legal team.
Do you know where I can watch it live
RUclips
@@muhammadesa2517DW, Reuters, AL Jazeera... plus many others live streamed it today.
Middle East news uploaded the full presentation by South Africa.
Lol
@@muhammadesa2517some RUclips channels stream it. I watched it on the ICJ website.
im not even from SA but im very proud of this country for standing for the humanity
Here’s hoping the court will be as brave as South Africa.
The final decision will show us all how deep the double standards are. We keep praying, protesting, donating, boycotting with unity and hope❤🤲
Yup.
I am convinced that the ICJ and its judges have already been bought and paid for. Israel can fart in the court's general direction as a defense, and it will still win. I pray to Jesus that I am wrong.
This will be a whitewash of historic proportions.
Very impressive breakdown of the allegations in peacemeals for clear understanding of common person on the street. Thank you South Africa,you have our 💕.
Thanks South Africa. God bless
What a master class submission by the RSA Legal team, factual, lawful, smart and well designed. I am sure the defense team is sweating tonight. They have superbly pre-emptied the defense slated for tomorrow. Kudos to the great work and sleepless nights. You nailed it.🤝🤝🤝🤝 .
Thank you to all whose hearts found the courage to stand up for the Palestinian people, in the ICJ. South Africa, you are our hero. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you south africa.🇿🇦 from 🇮🇳 .We never forget Yemen & South Africa In our history who are the real heroes
Lots of Respect for South Africa
May God Bless South Africa
Proud Proud South African 🇿🇦 today 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Agreed, brilliant presentation by South Africa. The best part of the presentation was what Israel is thinking to present tomorrow and justify killings. Like the self-defence part. I do not think Israel will survive this case. South Africa contribution and support to Palestinians' suffering is immense, and Arab world has a lot to learn from South Africa.
I am so proud to be a southAfrican
Alhamdullilah God bless South Africa.
The irish woman was pure class what a job the irish did and of course south Africa 💚👏👏👏👏👏
Genocide is not self defense.
God Bless South Africa, Nelson Mandela and the South African Congress for them standing up to these atrocities.
We love you South Africa. May Almighty Allah bless South Africa and its loving people.
.The United Nations Created this problem with the allowing the formation of the Israeli State in Palestine in 1948. Perhaps it is time that they should correct their Mistake. !
South Africa itself comes from a brutal 300 year long history of oppression, occupation and war so as a South African myself I'm not surprised that the Republic wasn't fazed by electing to become the first country in the world to drag Israel before an international court. This takes courage and vision and whichever way the outcome goes there remains no doubt that South African has made history here.
It should be All over the news.
Nelson Mandela served decades in prison and was called a terrorist.
Now proud chikdren of Mandela are the beacon of reason and humanity ❤❤❤❤
Kudos to South Africa for stepping up, when and where others dare not, to show the world that we can stand up to condemn Hamas' violent acts all while condemning Israel murderous campaign against innocent and defenceless Palestinians.
This somehow makes it all even more real. My heart cries. Finally, a ray for Light for Palestine. Oh God, please let it shine until freedom has been attained....forever.
Amen. 🙏
South Africa's presentation was perfect
Alieu you look like my doorman I bet you exclusively wear sandals
Let there be justice 🙏❤️🇵🇸
SOUTH AFRICA the civilized nations ate proud of you. THANK you for standing with HUMANITY ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you South Africa!
I am so proud of South Africa
So proud of South Africa.
Not really their a failed state who should be putting their focus and energy in bringing their country back from the brink and taking care of their own people
@@brodenmcdonald south africa is still dealing with the legacy of apartheid.
They took this action not in spite of their own problems, but precisely because of their problematic history.
Keep bad mouthing and smearing, it will not work
@tobia5267 south Africa is still dealing with apartheid because instead of a unity government they went far to the other side by putting people in positions they had no buisnesses being in just to spite the other side resulting in wide spread corruption and the downfall of their country. It's sad that people now are far worse off now than they were under apartheid and that's saying something. So I will criticize them because they deserve criticism they destroyed their country and they should be focused on where they went wrong and how to remedy it. Zimbabwe acknowledged they screwed up leading to one of the worst man made famines in modern history and they are in the process of remeding their mistakes. I'm saying they should sit this one out as they had a leader calling for whites to be murdered in the streets and they've got no leg to stand on.
@@tobia5267 moderators keep deleting my comments because they make too much sense to be on an al Jazeera page
@brodenmcdonald very short sighted of u . These are two separate issues.
Thanks South Africa for standing with humanity...
Proud to be South African, here we have courage
If you are commenting then you have learned. This country has taught the world about humanity.Lawyers like this one are learning from South Africa and it's a good thing. 👍
SALUTE SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦!!! SALUTE INTERNACIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE!!
Peace! The act and intents of ethnic cleansing missions by the Israel have no way to be denied. It's a physical issues in many different ways, from the leaked documents out from the Israeli government, physical verbal expressions of cleansing missions by the Israeli officials, Israeli soldiers behaviors and nature of the attacks and weapons used, targets of attacks, the Israeli children team songs, the Israeli envoy to UK interviews, Mr Morgan's interview with the Israeli spoke person and more related narratives, have clearly verified the cleansing missions by the Israeli government under the US and European countries supports.
Therefore, it is something very easy for the South Africa and other entities to achieve the missions of trying and defeating Israel in the case of genocide against Palestinians at the court.
I watched the whole live stream and it’s really impressive 🎉
Thank you SA. Thank you.
Obfuscation of the presentation incredible....lawyer after lawyer ,...screed after screed😂
Shame on usa 🇺🇸
So proud of South Africa. You have the balls, and you are the hope of the world !
South Africa 🇿🇦 ♥️ the real leader of the free world 🎉
I am proud of my county for fighting this injustice. Its still very heart breaking that we as a human race have allowed this to happen.
South Africa is a great country
Proud to be 🇿🇦
South Africa cause was put in a way that even without a legal background an ordinary person will know the outcome of the results
We are so proud of South Africa. You are on the right side of history. As for the court, I don't have high hopes. Their largest donor is the USA and they too are guilty of this genocide at the end of the day......
Some choice words from South Africa's National Anthem:
O fedise dintwa le matshwenyeho, (Intervene and end all conflicts,)…
And united we shall stand,
Let us live and strive for freedom,…_
If any country knows about working for peace it's South Africa - it may not be perfect but nobody can say it hasn't tried to live what it is teaching today through it's case at the ICJ.
Amen 🙌
I deeply appreciated and Thank you soo much The great country’s South Africa for this exceptional initiative taken the case against Israel for genocide of Palestinians innocent
civilians in Gaza, my support and prays always be with this Great nation keep it up ❤🙏❤️👏
Proud of South africa to my core❤
South Africa, thank you so much!
This is maddening. If the world can't stop this maddening instead endorsing &enjoying it ,will pay heavy price later.
Proud of South Africa
Happening in real time ! Thank you for once social media
Proud of South Africa you have the courage to speak the voice of the people around the world❤
Amandla AWETHU VIVA SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦
VIVA PALESTINE 🇵🇸....
From a humble yet proud SOUTH AFRICAN
So proud of my country and it's legal masterclass. Viva Palestine Viva.
Israel began war in palestine I 1930
Thank you South Africa
I'm so proud to be South African right now.
THANKS SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
FREE PALESTINA 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸BROTHER TAJIKISTAN 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺
Thankyou south africa
As a canadian, i am so sick of our countries' government. Not only did they supply war materials, and cash, for israel's genocide, but, they also failed to stand with sa, when evidence was overwhelming. Perhaps trudeau / singh received cash from AIPAC?
Triangle of Evil - Genoc. Joe, Mons.ter Blinkn and Sata.nyahu.
Thank you for sharing your expert opinions. We must not be tricked into being manipulated by issues that do not even have legal standing. The oppressor cannot claim self defence.
Occupying state does not have the right for self defense. Even in Self defense there's rules and laws to be respected which IsRaEL did not...
THANKS to South Africa for supporting standing by Palestine humanity Allah bless YOU ameen
Full respect to South Africa 🇿🇦 👏
Save & Free Palestine 🇵🇸
🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇬🇧
South Africa made us so proud 2b Africans. With all the hate Africans received the last 2000 years. We forget about everything and stood with humanity
Vivah South Africa Vivah
Thank you
Go South Africa, now one of the most respected counties in the World.