First off, very smooth flow using the various techniques against a common strike. I like it! Second, where did Eric get that jacket, that's fancy?! (leather jacket is nice, JD, but not my thing :-P )
fuck the motorcyce jacket. HOW BOUT THAT HOODED GI THO!!!!!! that thang is stylin' and profilin' if i do say so myself. i cut and sew Gi's for my 3yr old, never thought of making it fashionable.
Coming from a JKD background with an emphasis on Panantukan , everything you said makes sense. I trained under Ted Lucaylucay who’s father Lucky, coined the name Panantukan. Nothing is really great as it stands alone and should always be mixed and practiced in a real environment. That being said, gunting is not trained as a knockout technique. Meaning don’t stand there and admire your work. You wouldn’t gunting and stand their waiting for your opponent to feel it or see if it worked, you would keep following up with punches, elbows, takedown, etc until the fight is finished. And yes gunting is more timing based so in a sparring session it’s a lot easier to use after I time my opponents punches. In a real fight you wouldn’t really have that time and probably rely on other techniques to finish. Great video!
I came up under Guro Inosanto and wouod have to agree. Most just don’t understand conceptually what the limb destruction is doing or how to apply it. There’s a lot of versatility in those motions and they came up with those tools for a reason. Thanks for sharing!
I agree to that. And remember that FMA is already a combination of techniques from the very beginning. It's always best to absorb what's useful and eliminate the unnecessary. JKD
@LaG this all look unnecessary. Once you train garbage and it becomes muscle memory you jeopardize your own safety. Learning single shots and combinations are good this left right left right is totally useless and in fight when it is all down to reflexes and muscle memory they would confuse themselves with such crappy motion of lotion.
@@Gabrielland150 that's just a stupid way of thinking. Do you really think you can do the forms in every scenario?, hell no. But, that's the fucking basic, everything is adaptive base. You're just too stupid to realize that and really think a person will only ever do the forms just because that's what you see. You dumbfuck, that is just the very start of the adaptation, you can do whatever you fucking want and incorporate anything to it. Did you even watch the video you smooth brained idiot. "Jeopardize your safety" You brain dead cunt, they all teach you to adapt, for your safety, you can't run forever, but I guess you're too much of a monkey to even be calm and think for a second instead of relying on instinct. Even in a fight you're supposed to think, think on how to get out of it, the only people who let their instinct wild and abandon thinking end up beaten, injured, dead or in jail like a fucking waste.
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sorry ive done the gunting and if youre doing it correctly it hurts like hell and your arm goes numb, more than enough time to follow through to finish the opponent or close the gap. I do stand by you 100% to use boxing, which works, but also you have to change your angle of attack, so instead of throw that jab in return, you can take a small step to the right to become more perpendicular to the opponent to finish him.
Echoing the above about the gunting. We've had "mistakes" in training the bicep gunting from a split entry where the intention was to work the technique without "working over" the partner...but someone punches too fast, the technique goes real time, and the result is a useless arm. The gunting works...but I wouldn't recommend stopping there. Like was stated in the video..."yes...and". Salamat
Same here, I had lot of success using gunting especially when guys never seen it before,But like everything a person learns you got to put in the man hours to make it work.
@@eskrimadorchris ruclips.net/video/8czSQSBbWtc/видео.html I think this video explains it well. He said the gunting is an entry, not a finishing technique.
Also, it's worth remembering that fma is a system that bases itself on similar techniques for empty hands and bladed combat. Put a knife in the hand doing the gunting, and, well... That said, remember that there's a difference between training situations and an actual fight. What seems to work really well in a low-adrenaline situation like light sparring or technique training might not work as well in self defense situation against an opponent jacked up on adrenaline (or drugs). Still, I don't really doubt a well-exectued gunting as a setup move.
@@mykemanlangit993 Gunting as an opener or setup counter and not a finished... absolutely. My lineage is Inayan. In the limb destruction segment of KDM, the Gunting was always used as an opening distraction/disruption to be followed up with more damaging counters. IMHO...Does a Gunting work? Yes. Is it a finish move? No. It is an unexpected counter though and that alone has much higher value than a block or parry.
As an officer Gunting and "destructions" have served me well... you can always strike the face but when adhering to force continuum deltas/use of force rules... its sometimes better to strike limbs than faces. Even legally... effective doesn't always mean legal and Visa versa. It depends on the situation and position you're in (Hell even in sparring a good limb strike can make a helluva difference). I can explain arm bruising to a judge... but a broken jaw is a bit harder to explain. Same reason we carry lethal and less-than-lethal options. Not every situation merits a firearm response in my line of work. Use it all, train it all.
And yet if a single punch gets through and ko's you then you risk death when your head bounces off the concrete floor. If someone is trying to punch your head off in a street its a lethal situation. Also how many fights have you ever seen stopped with just limb strikes? Betting your life (and possibly your families lives) on such a low percentage tactic seems like a pretty bad gamble to make
I remember seeing a Gracie Jiu Jitsu video where they were analyzing a video of a cop using BJJ to control and subdue a suspect who was resisting. And I remember them saying: An officer without options is a accident waiting to happen.
Boxing was my base in training, the Jiu-Jitsu. Mixing this FMA with both is very effective. I mean, they throw a jab and you use this flow to easily set up a hip throw or take the back
Thank you for demonstrating the "deflect-and-dodge" movement! It enables the defender to implement either a handstrike to the face, body push, or kick to the knee of the attacker. 🙂
Even for the footwork, instead of male / female triangle, it can be Tyson / Loma shift to take the side or back which I think is faster sometimes. I agree taking something from both the "East and West" is the best approach.
God, I love the lines of the strikes and defenses in this. You can really see the direct lines of force. Great lesson, great ideas, great blending of foundations. Thank you, brother.
Yes I have. Hit a BJJ brown belt that was preventing everyone at the seminar from working on the panantukan being taught by constantly explaining how BJJ was better. Hit the nerve bundle just right and his whole arm went dead. He actually cried thinking that the dead arm was his new reality. We let him sit on the side watching the seminar till his arm could move. He quietly got up and left.
Hahaha I had a similar situation. Some bjj purple belt keeps dissing on kali system. We ended up rolling and his purple belt couldn't do anything much. He was a good on the mat. Once I started controlling his elbows he got frustrated and said it's not bjj! 😂
Your right never get caught up in technique or style adaptation is law of survival..what works is based on individual talents..training and so forth..great work
it's like a friend of mine who learned taekwondo and muay tai. he has the punches, elbows, knees of muy tai with the fast, deadly kicks and joint manipulation of taekwondo. he learned from a kwan jang nim(korean sensei) who mastered 5 empty hand martial arts and 3 weapon based martial arts. i personally learned a bit of taekwondo and korean kendo from him before moving back to the states and i could see why it's important to learn different systems. taekwondo, no matter what people may think or say, is flawed in some ways. surprisingly, kendo was one of the ways to solve that. he told me that taekwondo's older form was used with a sword, staff(bo), or spear on hand. most, if not all punches were directed to the body and grappling moves were common when unarmed/disarmed. this means the system is somewhat stuck in time. while there are changes to it since, it still needs to change. but that applies to all martial arts. one way is to mix them with others
Love the way this guy thinks. Don't become so rooted in one system. Supplement you Martial Arts with other fighting styles. Doing so will help you become all around more efficient.
My ex Fiancée was from the Philippines. She did Arnis. I began reading up and playing with some FMA guys here in America because of it. I got to where I really fell in love with the Filipino Martial Arts and their culture!.....and with her.
recommend people to spar. get your sparring partner to feed you unanticipated jabs & crosses at full speed. Then you will know which defense/offense moves work or don't. Fully agree with JD, I enjoy seeing the artistic panantukan drills but in application, some sacrifices need to be made to make our moves more efficient and effective. Solid video and I look forward to more JD & Eric talking about panantukan dirty boxing
Having worked in security for over 20 years I can say I’ve used the inside destruction a lot of times and have always got a good effect, the outside cross party gunting I’ve used less and I agree you don’t get a huge effect, I’ve also used parry in to elbow destruction and that’s worked extremely well
This is my journey exactly at the moment. I started off with FMA specifically Pekiti Tirsia Kali. I add some old-schooled Muay Boran to my arsenal and later on Boxing when I know I need to fight for the Certification Trial. Now I'm teaching Boxing for a living. From what I know, Boxing and Panantukan are related. Suntukan or the art of empty-hand in FMA gave style change to Boxing from Queensbury style to modern boxing. Many of the movement looks similar and it has a reason for it because Modern Boxing comes from the root of Suntukan. Here comes the part where I find my reason to train Boxing especially Technical Boxing. Boxing since the Queensbury era has been all about fighting the unknown. Even after it dubbed the style of Suntukan and evolved into modern boxing style nowadays, it is still trained for the sake of fighting the unknown. This is the part where I find "Dojo" type of martial arts, FMA included, doesn't actually work or it will take several years to develop rhythm and timing to be able to use in a real and unpredictable fight. This is exactly why I turned to Boxing about a year ago because of its root (not much adaptation and assimilation), and it's fight training capability. I love this video. I love what JD said that it's not either or but it's about yes and. I love that. Thank you so much for making this video in an educative manner without the need to bash any arts down. Thank you.
Panatukan is more about fighting with a smaller weapon, say a letter opener, or a Pointy small tamaraw horn, Hench application of Gunting. This is more for the flow than it is for main offensive striking because most just go towards regular boxing until a chance for grappling opens.
I trained with a Kali guy with 15 years experience. He would use a one knuckle strike to inner bicep muscle as his gunting and it would paralyze my arm. He did this often and it worked great. Give it a try a couple of times. It's very effective!
The most important is a mindset... to survive.. real combat doesn't need extra movement to look awesome just give it to the movies... real-life combat is how fast to take down the opponent.
FMA is speed and accuracy, but as I watched the grand masters or teachers through their teaching I observed the sharpness of the eyes. As if they knew where the enemy/opponent or attackers strike will fall and then counter attack it. The FMA style is always offensive, offensive, offensive...and defensive is the opponents problem. But most of all, FMA is very open to other martial arts and incorporate them with the system so that the offense will become more effective.
very good observations. To your first point, I agree the short arm destructions are not very effective even less so from range. I think a common theme here is the difference between flow drill and use. You flow very well by the way, but flow is only for developing reflex, and its half the art. The other half is what you do with you feet. The whole point of the parry and exchange, is that you should be entering on a 45 at the same time. Thus you quarter your enemy , in effect moving behind his shoulder. From that position , your enemy is neutralized and must move before he can attack again, you however are free to hit or attack with whatever technic from whatever art you like. After all my years of study I find the main difference between FMA and other arts is in FMA you are not supposed to stay in front . The magic is in the movement, you enter in position to gain tactical advantage. Add FMA movement to any art and it becomes more effective. A cross is great, thrown from the front, it hits the side of the face, enter after a parry and that cross lands behind the ear,. That is a foul in boxing by the way , but highly effective in the street. explore and play. Thank you for the video.
People like you are AWESOME... WHY... because you are learning and speaking my filipino heritage. but not only that, your ( i guess), re-engineering a basic move to be used for praticality. VERY AWESOME... RESPECT. you made me a subscriber. There are so many filipino martial arts. each province may have their own version of self defense fighting. RESPECT!
as a person who came from a muay thai and then boxing background, i certainly agree with the vid. it's different when the attacks are unexpected and simple minimal movements like these can really save you. you just gotta spar different people to find your own comfy style since it depends on your height and weight and mindset. i'm just a small dude on 5'3 (Joe Pesci height) and i'm always on the inside and have to be and I use the thai clinch and some simple throws from Judo that I could improvise to bring a big guy down or just plain leg kick them when i'm closer. boxing is really good for its angles and footwork and reactions from certain haymakers normal people who aren't trained on the street are doing; BIG ADVANTAGE.
No trying to be an ass but you guys realize he looks like an X-Men? Legitimately looks like he stole wolverenes outfit! Thanks for the lesson,good work!
awesome. Thanks for recognizing FMA or Filipino Martial Arts. But its more interesting to find out how those non schooled or those common Pinoys survive considering the true average height of Pinoys is 4"11 in any fights as he grow ups. In my personal experience movies taught us a lot from Chines movies of Bruce Lee, Meng Fei, etc. Japanese Movies taught us the Samurai from their movies also and the Americans taught Boxing. We love boxing and you can see that in all Filipinos both men and women. Character is the primary weapons of the Pinoys with or those without formal trainings. Our parents taught us to stay away from troubles BUT...the BIG BUT is in any situation that anyone, whoever he is never allow anyone to harm you. And if you sense that you will in danger NEVER ALLOW HIM to do the first strike. The rule is STRIKE FIRST. Yes we all grew up in that culture. Even more interesting is, in any situations or fights that your opponent dominates you NEVER ALLOW YOURSELF LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATLEAST BITE, THROW ATLEAST A PUNCH, KICK, SPIT OF HIS FACE, etc.. The great attributes in us is two rules: 1. SON NEVER GO HOME CRYING, IF YOU GOT INTO A FIGHT, FIGHT ALL THE WAY IF YOU CANNOT AVOID IT AND, 2. COME HOME, IF YOU CAN CRAWL, CRAWL TO COME HOME AND THE ENTIRE VILLAGE- SMALL AND GREATS, RICH AND POOR, OLD AND YOUNGS WILL RIDE IN ONE BUS TO AVENGE YOU RIGHT THERE AND THERE. We call it "resback" which means a quick decision to "go back" with all the resources "res" of the community for a quick justice which normally the starts of a decade "Family Feud." Thus, we are advised to avoid it if possible. The culture of the Filipinos that "we dont want to get even, or lost the opportunity to strike can be seen in the Pinoys of the Billiards, Pools and Snookers in the names of the Great Magician Efren Bata Reyes, Dyanggo Bustamante, Efren Parica, etc. In any situation that sees a thine line that he can hit the ball he will strike it. And if the subject ball is not visible in the frontal strike he will use the angles, sides and corners to find a way to touch and hit the ball. A lesson from our elders thay say "Pagkahaba-haba man daw ng prusisyon, sa simbahan din ang tuloy." {No matter how long the procession, it still ends up in church} and more lessons such as; " Malaking puno, ngunit walang lilim" ( A heavy tree trunk but it has no shade or " he is just tall but you can beat him, go touch his penis )Ang taong nagigipit, sa patalim kumakapit. (A desperate person will grab at a knife.) "Aanhin pa ang damo?, kung patay na ang kabayo" (What good is the grass if the horse is already dead-a lesson that you have to do it now nor never that you can seen in the fights of Senator Manny Pacquiao before he became a born again Christian and we have also a saying he in the Phillippines that all Pinoy fights in Las vegas must end in 4 round knock out or you're out with nothing)...so much to say, but the truth is we grew up mentally trained thus foreigners observed that we can easily adopt any language and learned its pronunciation and intonation. Our women can marry any race adopt other cultures and being loved by the family. Ya...it starts with our minds filled with situational instructions from the elders. I guess its the same things with other races who had generations of atrocities just like the Black African Americans, The Jews, The Sicillians of the Italy, The Vietnamese, etc.
I like your tutorial. I would add that yes you are applying a technique similar to boxing and different from FMA. The technique you are actually teaching is the Pac Soa of Wing Chun. Boxing seperTes the shield abd sword, where Wing Chun apples both at the same time. Adding the slip to the Wing Chun as you did makes it smart boxing. LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO COLLABORATE ON A FEW VIDEOS.
Obviously you’re more versed in kali/Silat than I am. However what I got from the Malaysian style is that it works whether you’re empty handed, have a knife, or sticks. So while I see what you’re saying about being more efficient by not gunting it makes perfect sense when placing a weapon in that hand.
the limb destructions can hurt, it just depends on the person. My arm has gone numb are several occasions. Also, as you know, they are based off the knife.
Just watched ur video on incorporating boxing into FMA. Totally agree including various other martial arts into FMA. It creates a more well rounded n effective martial artist. Keep up the good work n provide more videos, especially STREET FIGHTING techniques. It's more useful n helpful when one is on the street n trying to protect against the bad guys! Thanks
You could still attack after the first parry with the right hand. Simply throw a right backfist immediately after the parry. It's harder and faster than the jab.
Well said mate, loved the demonstration too, I've just started training in kali, only been training it two weeks, loving my training, great class of people 🥊🥋🥊🤺🙏🏽
Good stuff guys. @2:26 the strike should be a pressure point on the inside of the upper arm under the bicep and above the triceps. This can immobilize the arm. This is also an atemi waza in old school aikido :) ..
I saw a gunt end a fight. Elbow gunt to the fist. Broken hand and possibly a broken wrist. Took a few seconds for the pain to set in but once it did the guy didn't want to fight anymore. It was a boxer against a newbie kali friend of mine.
@@GreenLifeOmaha_GLO theres different states of fighting. Some things work at different moments, weight matches, balance. You need to drill certain things to develop the habit for when you need it
According to whom and what style? The slapping is a parry (Pak sao) also used in Wing chun, there is no such thing as "supposed" to in a fight, its about what works and is the most efficient with minimum, the slapping parry aspect of the drill yes it does help the muscles but in this drill they are doing its meant to parry as you can see, it does work. Blocking has its place, the slap being a parry is like in fencing, its just a little nudge to redirect or offset the oncoming force or line of attack, a block on the other hand will directly absorb a blow whereas a parry deflects it. Expand your horizons my friend.
Guntings, at least in my experience, are just opening techniques that should always have a follow-up. However, I do agree that learning boxing’s conventions to be able to break them is a good way to describe panatukan.
FANTASTIC bro! Sharing with my son, the next gen upgrade. He's loving Muay Thai, I can't wait until he incorporates Kali and gets that flash of brilliance on his face that we all do when it flows seamlessly into whatever else we're training. Appreciate you greatly man.🙏
What’s up LJ? I am a long time Muay Thai boxer who recently joined Kali. I’m curious about your sons training. Was he able to effectively implement these techniques in practice. Did he find them useful in sparring? Thanks!!
great video good stuff, but you can hit with the right hand when you parry at 01:59...depending on how ,uch energy he gives you but you slide right across HIS weapon .. matter of fact your fingers are already near his eyes for a sum-gob (eye-jab) or punch.
You don't need to throw a jab away with that 2 step process, there is something similar in JKD. The "block" isn't really a block. It's simply turning your hand at a 45, catching the outside of the forearm redirecting the strike off of the center line and pushing straight through with a punch. The idea is interception. A strike is returned with a strike rather than a block and a strike. Economy of motion is extremely important in street fighting.
Absolutely. Great job showing and demonstrating. Real world fights NEVER go the way that you plan. EVER. Better to get that punch in and move fast. Get in, get out.
I have found out the the best thing to do is to use the boxing first then use the Panantukan or Kali towards the end when the person begins to tire mentally and physically because it confuses them and it takes them out of their comfort zone.
Guntings work when done correctly, beginner level is the point hitting stuff, but advanced and more effective is when you use those guntings to enter in deeper, destroy and off balance the opponent. Disrupt his combo, smother their energy with effective footwork. Gotta close the gap. That distance you demonstrated is for practice exercises. So students can get repetitions in. If that level is where you left off at in your training then I feel for the students. FMA was for battlefield more so than dueling. Take opponents space and ground move through them. When you take that approach and train your ranges correctly. But staying at this long range is beginner elementary stuff gotta move deeper, tighter mid and close range. When you do everthing changes. Point hitting is when you got two guys with knives and you are unsure and cautious. Empty handed it becomes as tight as stand up grappling with short powerful hits using your whole body to offset theirs
Thats very good man! its what i wear at the moment past 30 years old after boxing and kali..i just mix basically.. training is the best, but unfortunatly to master the fighting and tecniques it requieres really fight, where u dunno your opponent and fear and more emotions comes. I know its illegal to go fighting around randomly xD
Great vid! This is why I love FMA. The stick work teaches everything else. You can spend years w/ Wing Chung or JKD and not get to the level of proficiency that a good FMA instructor can get you in 6 months.
there should be very little difference between stick, knife, and empty hand,minor alterations and thats it..not that im an expert by any means, farrrrrr from it..i hate kali as much as i love it..fries my brain with its simplicity...and depends who your coaches are dude..
Nice video, I like the fact of adding to a style, much like Bruce lee: use what is useful for ‘you’ discard the rest. Do not stay in a style. Very good quickness and effective flowing. 💪😎👍🏽
Looked a bit like JKD. I'm Filipino, but grew up US so I don't know much about FMA, but my understanding for why they parry is control the opponents knife hand. They're fighting style deals with lots of knife so the parry us to control the hand with the knife so it doesn't rake back as they chamber the next strike/slash. Again...don't know much about FMA, but I've witnessed FMA conferences and it deals heavy with knife techniques so their empty hands are always trained for knife.
Excellent and interesting point you mentioned there. About the gunting. You are certainly right if the opponent is wearing a leather jacket, for example. All in all. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is exactly what Kali is all about, apply what works. Contradas will help you speed up those hand and remember foot work, ang mindset is always offense. Don't wait foe the other guy to do the damage
The inside gunting works really well but you are aiming for a really small target and clothing is going to inhibit the strike. The factor not mentioned in the video is footwork. If you can parry/pak sau then flow to the outside of the lead hand and foot to flank him at the same time then a front foot sweep and rear hand eye jab come naturally into play. Always aim to flow outside of the lead hand and foot and the enemy has fewer attacking options.
You know, I did filipino martial arts, mainly arnis, which is the fight with machetes. My trainer taught me that the moves, in which you parry the jab, you want to mainly create distance. It's a basic move for most martial arts. The point of this move is to learn how to parry the jab or the fist that wants to hit you. Mixing this move in and knowing how you move is the basic for further development. For example, if you grab his arm or his wrist, while you parry his attack, you gain control of his movement. You could spin yourself like the movies and hit his head with your elbow, while you have his wrist in the hand, with which you parried it. You could even do other moves with it, as long as you know the timing, when you need to grab his wrist, while you parry his move.
Yeah, the video's Idea is great. Prioritizing form and strength. While on the other hand Kali prioritizes speed, movement, psychology factor and lethality.
My old teacher would say too many moves on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and all the options you mentioned. You blocking hand can also be a striking hand as well. The moment you pushed their arm off line, you hand is not in perfect position to strike. Your thinking your arm went out and has to retract. Why? It doent have to. It's already there in perfect sticking position. So, just strike. The same hand can sweep and strike all in one movement.
Agree with the principle. I think FMA in particular has a lot of 'sensitivity drills'-to develop speed, timing and accurate distancing. if it's a real fight you'll want to mix it up-patterns are not going to get you home safe.
Good points for empty hand. However, slipping a punch is different from slipping a knife. Parrying, gunting, and taking control of the attacker's arm is integral in the school because it assumes the opponent is attacking with a bladed weapon. Letting their arm slip past behind your vision is an invitation to stab or cut you in the throat, or slice you in the stomach- especially on the draw back. You can land a punch on them, but if that cost a knife to the neck or your guts spilling, it's not worth it.
I've been teaching martial arts since 1975. I'm 5'2", 130 pounds. I have "slapped" the knife out of the attacker's hand and it does work, as long as the partner doesn't know what you're going to do. He has a right knife. At same time, I lean to the side as my right hand strikes inside his wrist as my left heel palm strikes the back of his hand. It's very gratiflying to see his knife or gun fly from his hand. Now, if you are a black belt and have practiced this move many times, you can make it work. Of course you have to be fast, which I still am. Most o the time I pivot on ball of my foot and give a inward downward block, getting my body out of the way. I then grab his wrist and so on, so forth. Sifu (Puyallup, Wa)
First off, very smooth flow using the various techniques against a common strike. I like it! Second, where did Eric get that jacket, that's fancy?! (leather jacket is nice, JD, but not my thing :-P )
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Are those flows for drills? Just like pad hitting in boxing?
Epheros Aldor what about the other one? Looks like someone from X-men...
fuck the motorcyce jacket. HOW BOUT THAT HOODED GI THO!!!!!! that thang is stylin' and profilin' if i do say so myself. i cut and sew Gi's for my 3yr old, never thought of making it fashionable.
It looks nice, but I would prefer a hood-less version.
Coming from a JKD background with an emphasis on Panantukan , everything you said makes sense. I trained under Ted Lucaylucay who’s father Lucky, coined the name Panantukan. Nothing is really great as it stands alone and should always be mixed and practiced in a real environment. That being said, gunting is not trained as a knockout technique. Meaning don’t stand there and admire your work. You wouldn’t gunting and stand their waiting for your opponent to feel it or see if it worked, you would keep following up with punches, elbows, takedown, etc until the fight is finished. And yes gunting is more timing based so in a sparring session it’s a lot easier to use after I time my opponents punches. In a real fight you wouldn’t really have that time and probably rely on other techniques to finish. Great video!
Me too...
The fastest real life fighter I saw was a Wudang Mantis fist stylist in Hawaii 12 yrs ago.
I came up under Guro Inosanto and wouod have to agree. Most just don’t understand conceptually what the limb destruction is doing or how to apply it. There’s a lot of versatility in those motions and they came up with those tools for a reason.
Thanks for sharing!
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I agree to that. And remember that FMA is already a combination of techniques from the very beginning. It's always best to absorb what's useful and eliminate the unnecessary. JKD
LaG jkd guy is more mature
It looks fancy and that is that. If they would throw punches with alternating lefts and rights randomly they would knock themselves out.
@LaG this all look unnecessary. Once you train garbage and it becomes muscle memory you jeopardize your own safety. Learning single shots and combinations are good this left right left right is totally useless and in fight when it is all down to reflexes and muscle memory they would confuse themselves with such crappy motion of lotion.
@@Gabrielland150 that's just a stupid way of thinking. Do you really think you can do the forms in every scenario?, hell no. But, that's the fucking basic, everything is adaptive base. You're just too stupid to realize that and really think a person will only ever do the forms just because that's what you see. You dumbfuck, that is just the very start of the adaptation, you can do whatever you fucking want and incorporate anything to it. Did you even watch the video you smooth brained idiot. "Jeopardize your safety" You brain dead cunt, they all teach you to adapt, for your safety, you can't run forever, but I guess you're too much of a monkey to even be calm and think for a second instead of relying on instinct. Even in a fight you're supposed to think, think on how to get out of it, the only people who let their instinct wild and abandon thinking end up beaten, injured, dead or in jail like a fucking waste.
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i started kali martial arts at the age of seven and i was trained by my parents..
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Nakalakihan ko dka pweding turuan ng lolo muh or papa muh kung dimo kayang turuan ang sarili muh sa pagiging mabuting tao at pasensyado.. Kasi napaka dilikado ng kali dose pares mano2... Dapat responsable ka kung ano man ang binigay sayo... Yan ang dko makakalimutan sa lolo ko.. PUGAY kapatid
@@reynandeder3598 Tama kaya di para sa lahat Ang Kali.. napaka delikado
The true essence of kali is fluidity. Its never just one system. It evolves and adapt, this is kali.
Finally Filipino Martial Arts is being acknowledged and not some Gurus claiming it as their own.
sorry ive done the gunting and if youre doing it correctly it hurts like hell and your arm goes numb, more than enough time to follow through to finish the opponent or close the gap. I do stand by you 100% to use boxing, which works, but also you have to change your angle of attack, so instead of throw that jab in return, you can take a small step to the right to become more perpendicular to the opponent to finish him.
Echoing the above about the gunting.
We've had "mistakes" in training the bicep gunting from a split entry where the intention was to work the technique without "working over" the partner...but someone punches too fast, the technique goes real time, and the result is a useless arm.
The gunting works...but I wouldn't recommend stopping there. Like was stated in the video..."yes...and".
Salamat
Same here, I had lot of success using gunting especially when guys never seen it before,But like everything a person learns you got to put in the man hours to make it work.
@@eskrimadorchris ruclips.net/video/8czSQSBbWtc/видео.html I think this video explains it well. He said the gunting is an entry, not a finishing technique.
Also, it's worth remembering that fma is a system that bases itself on similar techniques for empty hands and bladed combat. Put a knife in the hand doing the gunting, and, well...
That said, remember that there's a difference between training situations and an actual fight. What seems to work really well in a low-adrenaline situation like light sparring or technique training might not work as well in self defense situation against an opponent jacked up on adrenaline (or drugs). Still, I don't really doubt a well-exectued gunting as a setup move.
@@mykemanlangit993 Gunting as an opener or setup counter and not a finished... absolutely.
My lineage is Inayan. In the limb destruction segment of KDM, the Gunting was always used as an opening distraction/disruption to be followed up with more damaging counters.
IMHO...Does a Gunting work? Yes. Is it a finish move? No. It is an unexpected counter though and that alone has much higher value than a block or parry.
As an officer Gunting and "destructions" have served me well... you can always strike the face but when adhering to force continuum deltas/use of force rules... its sometimes better to strike limbs than faces. Even legally... effective doesn't always mean legal and Visa versa. It depends on the situation and position you're in (Hell even in sparring a good limb strike can make a helluva difference). I can explain arm bruising to a judge... but a broken jaw is a bit harder to explain. Same reason we carry lethal and less-than-lethal options. Not every situation merits a firearm response in my line of work. Use it all, train it all.
And yet if a single punch gets through and ko's you then you risk death when your head bounces off the concrete floor. If someone is trying to punch your head off in a street its a lethal situation. Also how many fights have you ever seen stopped with just limb strikes?
Betting your life (and possibly your families lives) on such a low percentage tactic seems like a pretty bad gamble to make
Thank you for ya svc & 👍 good mindset.
I remember seeing a Gracie Jiu Jitsu video where they were analyzing a video of a cop using BJJ to control and subdue a suspect who was resisting. And I remember them saying: An officer without options is a accident waiting to happen.
From a fellow officer, you nailed it.
@@driver3899 IF
Clean, fluid, direct - that's where the magic is at. You guys nailed it. Thanks.
Thanks Roger!
My older brother actually did this to me during our sparring. That was really a skill that acquired by well experienced boxer.
Boxing was my base in training, the Jiu-Jitsu. Mixing this FMA with both is very effective. I mean, they throw a jab and you use this flow to easily set up a hip throw or take the back
Thank you for demonstrating the "deflect-and-dodge" movement! It enables the defender to implement either a handstrike to the face, body push, or kick to the knee of the attacker. 🙂
I'm a Filipino and I'm glad to hear that somebody thinks the same way that I do.
Even for the footwork, instead of male / female triangle, it can be Tyson / Loma shift to take the side or back which I think is faster sometimes. I agree taking something from both the "East and West" is the best approach.
Love it
God, I love the lines of the strikes and defenses in this. You can really see the direct lines of force. Great lesson, great ideas, great blending of foundations. Thank you, brother.
Yes I have. Hit a BJJ brown belt that was preventing everyone at the seminar from working on the panantukan being taught by constantly explaining how BJJ was better. Hit the nerve bundle just right and his whole arm went dead. He actually cried thinking that the dead arm was his new reality. We let him sit on the side watching the seminar till his arm could move. He quietly got up and left.
Hahaha I had a similar situation. Some bjj purple belt keeps dissing on kali system. We ended up rolling and his purple belt couldn't do anything much. He was a good on the mat. Once I started controlling his elbows he got frustrated and said it's not bjj! 😂
Your right never get caught up in technique or style adaptation is law of survival..what works is based on individual talents..training and so forth..great work
it's like a friend of mine who learned taekwondo and muay tai. he has the punches, elbows, knees of muy tai with the fast, deadly kicks and joint manipulation of taekwondo. he learned from a kwan jang nim(korean sensei) who mastered 5 empty hand martial arts and 3 weapon based martial arts. i personally learned a bit of taekwondo and korean kendo from him before moving back to the states and i could see why it's important to learn different systems. taekwondo, no matter what people may think or say, is flawed in some ways. surprisingly, kendo was one of the ways to solve that. he told me that taekwondo's older form was used with a sword, staff(bo), or spear on hand. most, if not all punches were directed to the body and grappling moves were common when unarmed/disarmed. this means the system is somewhat stuck in time. while there are changes to it since, it still needs to change. but that applies to all martial arts. one way is to mix them with others
Love the way this guy thinks. Don't become so rooted in one system. Supplement you Martial Arts with other fighting styles. Doing so will help you become all around more efficient.
My ex Fiancée was from the Philippines. She did Arnis. I began reading up and playing with some FMA guys here in America because of it. I got to where I really fell in love with the Filipino Martial Arts and their culture!.....and with her.
Sorry about you loss brother. At least you found the art.
remarkably similar to karate. Most fighting styles are surprisingly alike when it comes to real life applications
recommend people to spar. get your sparring partner to feed you unanticipated jabs & crosses at full speed. Then you will know which defense/offense moves work or don't. Fully agree with JD, I enjoy seeing the artistic panantukan drills but in application, some sacrifices need to be made to make our moves more efficient and effective. Solid video and I look forward to more JD & Eric talking about panantukan dirty boxing
Everytime the guy on the right smiles as the concept is being explained I feel it is very uplifting
Great instructor, very charismatic, easy to understand, and knowledgeable.
Having worked in security for over 20 years I can say I’ve used the inside destruction a lot of times and have always got a good effect, the outside cross party gunting I’ve used less and I agree you don’t get a huge effect, I’ve also used parry in to elbow destruction and that’s worked extremely well
Awesome stuff from a good dude in JD and a great team in the Budo Brothers!
This is my journey exactly at the moment. I started off with FMA specifically Pekiti Tirsia Kali. I add some old-schooled Muay Boran to my arsenal and later on Boxing when I know I need to fight for the Certification Trial. Now I'm teaching Boxing for a living.
From what I know, Boxing and Panantukan are related. Suntukan or the art of empty-hand in FMA gave style change to Boxing from Queensbury style to modern boxing. Many of the movement looks similar and it has a reason for it because Modern Boxing comes from the root of Suntukan. Here comes the part where I find my reason to train Boxing especially Technical Boxing. Boxing since the Queensbury era has been all about fighting the unknown. Even after it dubbed the style of Suntukan and evolved into modern boxing style nowadays, it is still trained for the sake of fighting the unknown. This is the part where I find "Dojo" type of martial arts, FMA included, doesn't actually work or it will take several years to develop rhythm and timing to be able to use in a real and unpredictable fight. This is exactly why I turned to Boxing about a year ago because of its root (not much adaptation and assimilation), and it's fight training capability.
I love this video. I love what JD said that it's not either or but it's about yes and. I love that. Thank you so much for making this video in an educative manner without the need to bash any arts down.
Thank you.
Panatukan is more about fighting with a smaller weapon, say a letter opener, or a Pointy small tamaraw horn, Hench application of Gunting. This is more for the flow than it is for main offensive striking because most just go towards regular boxing until a chance for grappling opens.
I trained with a Kali guy with 15 years experience. He would use a one knuckle strike to inner bicep muscle as his gunting and it would paralyze my arm. He did this often and it worked great. Give it a try a couple of times. It's very effective!
Practice, patience and persistence creates great results.
The most important is a mindset... to survive.. real combat doesn't need extra movement to look awesome just give it to the movies... real-life combat is how fast to take down the opponent.
I like the way u explain the both styles and effectiveness.
FMA is speed and accuracy, but as I watched the grand masters or teachers through their teaching I observed the sharpness of the eyes. As if they knew where the enemy/opponent or attackers strike will fall and then counter attack it. The FMA style is always offensive, offensive, offensive...and defensive is the opponents problem. But most of all, FMA is very open to other martial arts and incorporate them with the system so that the offense will become more effective.
very good observations. To your first point, I agree the short arm destructions are not very effective even less so from range. I think a common theme here is the difference between flow drill and use. You flow very well by the way, but flow is only for developing reflex, and its half the art. The other half is what you do with you feet. The whole point of the parry and exchange, is that you should be entering on a 45 at the same time. Thus you quarter your enemy , in effect moving behind his shoulder. From that position , your enemy is neutralized and must move before he can attack again, you however are free to hit or attack with whatever technic from whatever art you like. After all my years of study I find the main difference between FMA and other arts is in FMA you are not supposed to stay in front . The magic is in the movement, you enter in position to gain tactical advantage. Add FMA movement to any art and it becomes more effective. A cross is great, thrown from the front, it hits the side of the face, enter after a parry and that cross lands behind the ear,. That is a foul in boxing by the way , but highly effective in the street. explore and play. Thank you for the video.
People like you are AWESOME... WHY... because you are learning and speaking my filipino heritage. but not only that, your ( i guess), re-engineering a basic move to be used for praticality. VERY AWESOME... RESPECT. you made me a subscriber. There are so many filipino martial arts. each province may have their own version of self defense fighting. RESPECT!
as a person who came from a muay thai and then boxing background, i certainly agree with the vid. it's different when the attacks are unexpected and simple minimal movements like these can really save you. you just gotta spar different people to find your own comfy style since it depends on your height and weight and mindset. i'm just a small dude on 5'3 (Joe Pesci height) and i'm always on the inside and have to be and I use the thai clinch and some simple throws from Judo that I could improvise to bring a big guy down or just plain leg kick them when i'm closer. boxing is really good for its angles and footwork and reactions from certain haymakers normal people who aren't trained on the street are doing; BIG ADVANTAGE.
Agree! Also FMA is a very fluid and adjustable art.
So true!
"Yes and".
Well said. Great teacher.
No trying to be an ass but you guys realize he looks like an X-Men? Legitimately looks like he stole wolverenes outfit! Thanks for the lesson,good work!
Haha he does a bit
😂😂 Good eye.
Wait, I thought he was wolverine 🦝
There is space for improvisation in FMA, that’s what makes kali fun & effective.
Pugay 🗡 mga kapatid! Mag ingat lagi.
awesome. Thanks for recognizing FMA or Filipino Martial Arts. But its more interesting to find out how those non schooled or those common Pinoys survive considering the true average height of Pinoys is 4"11 in any fights as he grow ups. In my personal experience movies taught us a lot from Chines movies of Bruce Lee, Meng Fei, etc. Japanese Movies taught us the Samurai from their movies also and the Americans taught Boxing. We love boxing and you can see that in all Filipinos both men and women. Character is the primary weapons of the Pinoys with or those without formal trainings. Our parents taught us to stay away from troubles BUT...the BIG BUT is in any situation that anyone, whoever he is never allow anyone to harm you. And if you sense that you will in danger NEVER ALLOW HIM to do the first strike. The rule is STRIKE FIRST. Yes we all grew up in that culture. Even more interesting is, in any situations or fights that your opponent dominates you NEVER ALLOW YOURSELF LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATLEAST BITE, THROW ATLEAST A PUNCH, KICK, SPIT OF HIS FACE, etc.. The great attributes in us is two rules: 1. SON NEVER GO HOME CRYING, IF YOU GOT INTO A FIGHT, FIGHT ALL THE WAY IF YOU CANNOT AVOID IT AND, 2. COME HOME, IF YOU CAN CRAWL, CRAWL TO COME HOME AND THE ENTIRE VILLAGE- SMALL AND GREATS, RICH AND POOR, OLD AND YOUNGS WILL RIDE IN ONE BUS TO AVENGE YOU RIGHT THERE AND THERE. We call it "resback" which means a quick decision to "go back" with all the resources "res" of the community for a quick justice which normally the starts of a decade "Family Feud." Thus, we are advised to avoid it if possible. The culture of the Filipinos that "we dont want to get even, or lost the opportunity to strike can be seen in the Pinoys of the Billiards, Pools and Snookers in the names of the Great Magician Efren Bata Reyes, Dyanggo Bustamante, Efren Parica, etc. In any situation that sees a thine line that he can hit the ball he will strike it. And if the subject ball is not visible in the frontal strike he will use the angles, sides and corners to find a way to touch and hit the ball. A lesson from our elders thay say "Pagkahaba-haba man daw ng prusisyon, sa simbahan din ang tuloy." {No matter how long the procession, it still ends up in church} and more lessons such as;
" Malaking puno, ngunit walang lilim"
( A heavy tree trunk but it has no shade or " he is just tall but you can beat him, go touch his penis )Ang taong nagigipit, sa patalim kumakapit.
(A desperate person will grab at a knife.) "Aanhin pa ang damo?, kung patay na ang kabayo"
(What good is the grass if the horse is already dead-a lesson that you have to do it now nor never that you can seen in the fights of Senator Manny Pacquiao before he became a born again Christian and we have also a saying he in the Phillippines that all Pinoy fights in Las vegas must end in 4 round knock out or you're out with nothing)...so much to say, but the truth is we grew up mentally trained thus foreigners observed that we can easily adopt any language and learned its pronunciation and intonation. Our women can marry any race adopt other cultures and being loved by the family. Ya...it starts with our minds filled with situational instructions from the elders. I guess its the same things with other races who had generations of atrocities just like the Black African Americans, The Jews, The Sicillians of the Italy, The Vietnamese, etc.
I like your tutorial. I would add that yes you are applying a technique similar to boxing and different from FMA. The technique you are actually teaching is the Pac Soa of Wing Chun. Boxing seperTes the shield abd sword, where Wing Chun apples both at the same time. Adding the slip to the Wing Chun as you did makes it smart boxing.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO COLLABORATE ON A FEW VIDEOS.
*Boxing + Ju Jitsu + Taekwondo(especially kicks)...enough arsenal to be an undisputed winner on the streets ever!*
If you want to get tested, go join the IDF. They have a 20 year+ war just starting.
Obviously you’re more versed in kali/Silat than I am. However what I got from the Malaysian style is that it works whether you’re empty handed, have a knife, or sticks. So while I see what you’re saying about being more efficient by not gunting it makes perfect sense when placing a weapon in that hand.
the limb destructions can hurt, it just depends on the person. My arm has gone numb are several occasions. Also, as you know, they are based off the knife.
Just watched ur video on incorporating boxing into FMA. Totally agree including various other martial arts into FMA. It creates a more well rounded n effective martial artist.
Keep up the good work n provide more videos, especially STREET FIGHTING techniques. It's more useful n helpful when one is on the street n trying to protect against the bad guys! Thanks
The gunting ("scissor") is use to both deflect and break the joints when used with force.
You could still attack after the first parry with the right hand. Simply throw a right backfist immediately after the parry. It's harder and faster than the jab.
Damn, I discovered this channel, late, but better late than never.... You guys earned a new subscriber!!! Awesome and legit stuff!!!
Well said mate, loved the demonstration too, I've just started training in kali, only been training it two weeks, loving my training, great class of people 🥊🥋🥊🤺🙏🏽
Good stuff guys. @2:26 the strike should be a pressure point on the inside of the upper arm under the bicep and above the triceps. This can immobilize the arm. This is also an atemi waza in old school aikido :) ..
I saw a gunt end a fight. Elbow gunt to the fist. Broken hand and possibly a broken wrist. Took a few seconds for the pain to set in but once it did the guy didn't want to fight anymore. It was a boxer against a newbie kali friend of mine.
that slapping hand thing is a drill intended to train your muscles. You're not supposed to block like that in real fight. it's just a drill.
Yet how u train is how u fight
@@GreenLifeOmaha_GLO theres different states of fighting. Some things work at different moments, weight matches, balance. You need to drill certain things to develop the habit for when you need it
According to whom and what style?
The slapping is a parry (Pak sao) also used in Wing chun, there is no such thing as "supposed" to in a fight, its about what works and is the most efficient with minimum, the slapping parry aspect of the drill yes it does help the muscles but in this drill they are doing its meant to parry as you can see, it does work. Blocking has its place, the slap being a parry is like in fencing, its just a little nudge to redirect or offset the oncoming force or line of attack, a block on the other hand will directly absorb a blow whereas a parry deflects it.
Expand your horizons my friend.
That "slapping a hand thing" is called a parry. They teach that in western boxing too.
@Damon Case absolutely. He did that in mayweather fight fight, he parries punches of floyd.. did in broner and thurmans fight
Guntings, at least in my experience, are just opening techniques that should always have a follow-up. However, I do agree that learning boxing’s conventions to be able to break them is a good way to describe panatukan.
Very well said...there's really not one technique that works every single time...keep fighting
Thanks!
The split entry( the counter after the party/ slip) has been my go to for years. The gunt can work, I'd rather go for a bigger payoff.
FANTASTIC bro! Sharing with my son, the next gen upgrade. He's loving Muay Thai, I can't wait until he incorporates Kali and gets that flash of brilliance on his face that we all do when it flows seamlessly into whatever else we're training.
Appreciate you greatly man.🙏
What’s up LJ? I am a long time Muay Thai boxer who recently joined Kali. I’m curious about your sons training. Was he able to effectively implement these techniques in practice. Did he find them useful in sparring? Thanks!!
Great job!!! Thanks for respecting our culture🇵🇭
What’s not to like, awesome action, good audio, plenty of action!
great video good stuff, but you can hit with the right hand when you parry at 01:59...depending on how ,uch energy he gives you but you slide right across HIS weapon .. matter of fact your fingers are already near his eyes for a sum-gob (eye-jab) or punch.
Pugay mula sa Pilipinas great vid i like the "yes and..." principle 😊
Make sense, I agree with that, that's why Bruce Lee said "be water my friend"(be flexible)
You don't need to throw a jab away with that 2 step process, there is something similar in JKD. The "block" isn't really a block. It's simply turning your hand at a 45, catching the outside of the forearm redirecting the strike off of the center line and pushing straight through with a punch. The idea is interception. A strike is returned with a strike rather than a block and a strike. Economy of motion is extremely important in street fighting.
Absolutely. Great job showing and demonstrating. Real world fights NEVER go the way that you plan. EVER. Better to get that punch in and move fast. Get in, get out.
Excellent commentary. Slipping to reposition into a good striking position is the best. Tyson was a master of this.
That's what Pacquiao does, it's always effective.
I have found out the the best thing to do is to use the boxing first then use the Panantukan or Kali towards the end when the person begins to tire mentally and physically because it confuses them and it takes them out of their comfort zone.
Guntings work when done correctly, beginner level is the point hitting stuff, but advanced and more effective is when you use those guntings to enter in deeper, destroy and off balance the opponent. Disrupt his combo, smother their energy with effective footwork. Gotta close the gap. That distance you demonstrated is for practice exercises. So students can get repetitions in. If that level is where you left off at in your training then I feel for the students. FMA was for battlefield more so than dueling. Take opponents space and ground move through them. When you take that approach and train your ranges correctly. But staying at this long range is beginner elementary stuff gotta move deeper, tighter mid and close range. When you do everthing changes. Point hitting is when you got two guys with knives and you are unsure and cautious. Empty handed it becomes as tight as stand up grappling with short powerful hits using your whole body to offset theirs
Thats very good man! its what i wear at the moment past 30 years old after boxing and kali..i just mix basically.. training is the best, but unfortunatly to master the fighting and tecniques it requieres really fight, where u dunno your opponent and fear and more emotions comes. I know its illegal to go fighting around randomly xD
I love my filipino arts Dirty boxing great stuff !!
Great vid! This is why I love FMA. The stick work teaches everything else. You can spend years w/ Wing Chung or JKD and not get to the level of proficiency that a good FMA instructor can get you in 6 months.
there should be very little difference between stick, knife, and empty hand,minor alterations and thats it..not that im an expert by any means, farrrrrr from it..i hate kali as much as i love it..fries my brain with its simplicity...and depends who your coaches are dude..
Just what I said?
@@oldnatty61 not quite..
I love that way you explain the science behind it! EXCELLENT!!! 🥂
Yes and I appreciated that demonstration slip and strike takes a lot of practice
Nice video, I like the fact of adding to a style, much like Bruce lee: use what is useful for ‘you’ discard the rest. Do not stay in a style. Very good quickness and effective flowing. 💪😎👍🏽
Great teaching thanks 👍👍👍
I used to be a black belt in taekwondo, we learned the taekwondo forms, and also kick boxing.
Very tru. The gunting method really works if ur holding a knife. But if its just ur fist might as well strike the face or body.
Looked a bit like JKD.
I'm Filipino, but grew up US so I don't know much about FMA, but my understanding for why they parry is control the opponents knife hand. They're fighting style deals with lots of knife so the parry us to control the hand with the knife so it doesn't rake back as they chamber the next strike/slash.
Again...don't know much about FMA, but I've witnessed FMA conferences and it deals heavy with knife techniques so their empty hands are always trained for knife.
A good message I wish more martial arts instructors passed onto their students, every system has holes and other style can’t fill them
Boxing is still efficient up to this DAY that's why I ❤ PACMAN as a Filipino
He is the best!
Excellent and interesting point you mentioned there.
About the gunting. You are certainly right if the opponent is wearing a leather jacket, for example.
All in all. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Excellent application & great analysis!!!👏👏👏
This is exactly what Kali is all about, apply what works.
Contradas will help you speed up those hand and remember foot work, ang mindset is always offense. Don't wait foe the other guy to do the damage
Yep! Broken rhythm and true intention is important. Thanks for posting
The inside gunting works really well but you are aiming for a really small target and clothing is going to inhibit the strike. The factor not mentioned in the video is footwork. If you can parry/pak sau then flow to the outside of the lead hand and foot to flank him at the same time then a front foot sweep and rear hand eye jab come naturally into play. Always aim to flow outside of the lead hand and foot and the enemy has fewer attacking options.
You know, I did filipino martial arts, mainly arnis, which is the fight with machetes. My trainer taught me that the moves, in which you parry the jab, you want to mainly create distance. It's a basic move for most martial arts. The point of this move is to learn how to parry the jab or the fist that wants to hit you. Mixing this move in and knowing how you move is the basic for further development. For example, if you grab his arm or his wrist, while you parry his attack, you gain control of his movement. You could spin yourself like the movies and hit his head with your elbow, while you have his wrist in the hand, with which you parried it. You could even do other moves with it, as long as you know the timing, when you need to grab his wrist, while you parry his move.
Yeah, the video's Idea is great. Prioritizing form and strength. While on the other hand Kali prioritizes speed, movement, psychology factor and lethality.
There are prominent FMA grand master that encourages to improve and adopt...what ever works and what situation calls for it, do it.
Incredible flow, thanks for uploading this.
Reminds me of my escrima training. I always try to move outside after pass and attack his vital areas in his back.
I absolutely agree in a street fight you can add stuff think MMA.
The best video i think in martial arts !!
The very same thing I tell my students. Good stuff. Love Budo bros. I’m gonna get me one of them jackets.
Awesome lesson awesome understating and demo 🤙🏽💪🏽
Pretty awesome
and having Mark Whalberg as sparring partner is pretty cool too 🔥😎
My old teacher would say too many moves on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and all the options you mentioned.
You blocking hand can also be a striking hand as well. The moment you pushed their arm off line, you hand is not in perfect position to strike.
Your thinking your arm went out and has to retract. Why? It doent have to. It's already there in perfect sticking position. So, just strike.
The same hand can sweep and strike all in one movement.
Agree with the principle. I think FMA in particular has a lot of 'sensitivity drills'-to develop speed, timing and accurate distancing. if it's a real fight you'll want to mix it up-patterns are not going to get you home safe.
You are right, my FMA style is already mix with Boxing kung-fu, and muay thai.
Good points for empty hand. However, slipping a punch is different from slipping a knife. Parrying, gunting, and taking control of the attacker's arm is integral in the school because it assumes the opponent is attacking with a bladed weapon. Letting their arm slip past behind your vision is an invitation to stab or cut you in the throat, or slice you in the stomach- especially on the draw back. You can land a punch on them, but if that cost a knife to the neck or your guts spilling, it's not worth it.
I've been teaching martial arts since 1975. I'm 5'2", 130 pounds. I have "slapped" the knife out of the attacker's hand and it does work, as long as the partner doesn't know what you're going to do. He has a right knife. At same time, I lean to the side as my right hand strikes inside his wrist as my left heel palm strikes the back of his hand. It's very gratiflying to see his knife or gun fly from his hand.
Now, if you are a black belt and have practiced this move many times, you can make it work. Of course you have to be fast, which I still am.
Most o the time I pivot on ball of my foot and give a inward downward block, getting my body out of the way. I then grab his wrist and so on, so forth.
Sifu (Puyallup, Wa)
It depends if he has a tight or loose grip of knife.Or just bite his wrist if he cant let go.
Best advice i heard so far. Thank you
The catch and the punch at 4:10 is from kung fu as well