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Just a question about the ice mag 2 does it really keep your phone from overheating? I’ve had other wireless chargers but they overheat my phone really bad. Does this one work well? Thank and keep up the good work on your videos they are always awesome 😊
Hello Vadim! Want to ask you if you sell some of the computers you get for reviewing them? I’m a father of two and photographer, videographer in SoCal, San Diego and Baja. A few weeks ago I went to document an event at Valle de Guadalupe, gorgeous place but, I got jacked by a cartel band and they stole all my bags with my most important equipment (cameras, lenses and my macbook pro) it’s a serious hit since my insurance wont cover for all this in Baja. Lost over $30,000 in equipment and haven’t been able to buy back most of it. I had to give my assignments to fellow producers and act as an spectator/producer and pay for what I could’ve done… so, I need to buy a computer and everything else again but times have been hard after covid. No savings left… please let me know. 🙏🏻
why is no one testing gaming on the m4 imac and macbook pro the goal isnt to game on it the goal is to get a real world test on it because games reveal how much ots actually grown
In coding,compiling, and in everyday usage: no difference between m1 and m4. I'm 100% sure that nobody would guess which one is m1 and which one is m4 after one day work with
I guess that's the case for almost everything we're using. A car from 2005 will bring you to work as well as a car from 2024. Truth is that a car from 2024 is probably optimized and has obviously more modern options. Same for smartphones or PC's, TV's etc. I mean: I don't need a 8K 100" TV set to be able to watch a movie. It's cool and all, but really not required.
I guess the M1 iMac is only good for "websurfing", right? Wrong! Still doing serious video editing on it for RUclips videos is NOT a problem in any way, shape or form. And, I'm running 8gb of RAM and tons of other things open at the same time. Once I have that Hollywood or Netflix contract for making a film, I'll upgrade. 🙂
We want a full comparasion between all base models of Apple silicon Macs in terms of SSD speed. Is it just me or the base M1 8/256 GB is faster than even the latest M4 16/256 GB even with double the RAM, double the CPU performance and with 2*128GB NANDs just like the M1 and M3 base models. At least in terms of write speed, read speeds at almost the same.
That's because they are. No-one quite knows why. What is clear, is I think M2 (?) was slower with 256 Gb SSD because of the way the SSD was connected to the bus. The smaller capacity had fewer data lines limiting bandwidth. Once you went up to 512 or 1 Tb, then the SSD got the full bus bandwidth, and therefore maximum performance. Seems Apple fixed this problem in the M3 and M4 so all capacities get maximum bandwidth.
For the target audience, kids and grandparents, not much of a difference. At least kids will get better gaming experience on Roblox with the M4 version.
@jire9831 The only professionals that could get massive benefits from it are UX/UI designers. They typically need an excellent display for their profession. 4.5k resolution with high color accuracy and 16GB of RAM fits perfectly for them.
@@jire9831people forget the m1 even with 8 gb of ram is capable of quite a bit more then just light browsing. A 400$ laptop can do those things and an m1 mb air can do 4k video editing, photo editing with large raw photos, coding etc. let alone an m4 Mac with double the ram. You probably wouldn’t specifically go and buy this iMac for those things but if you do them sometimes on the side it will more then do it fine.
QUESTION: I have never heard anyone analyze the actual APU count inside each GPU core on the M series chips. I am sure there must be a difference between GPUs on each chip. Can you do a deep dive comparison on the GPU section between the M1 and M4 chips? On nVidia GPU processors the big selling feature is the CUDA core count. The equivalent on the M series would be the APU count. I have found on one reddit post that the M1 has 128 arithmetic units” or 128 APUs per GPU core. I haven’t found the APU count per core for the M4 chips. Also…what frequencies do they run at? THANKS!!
This is me and I feel guilty as shit for wanting a pink one. OMG why do I need a pink one? I don't. I don't need one. But I cannot stop looking at them.
Iv got the 27” iMac which is great screen wise and iv got a 32” screen too. I honestly hope when they finally bring out a proper iMac it’s 32”. I think a wider screen would be more useful. I hope the proper macs look more professional too.
Glad you are still making videos however I am an editor and need a big screen so because of these smaller screens I want to keep my 27” and idk I don’t hear anyone else saying that
Good vid, I agree with you. I was just wanting to get a monitor for my MacBook Pro M1 chip. A good monitor is about $450 so I’ve decided to trade in my MacBook Pro m1 for the iMac m4 chip. I might as well get this future proof computer which I always come back to my desk to do serious work anyway. Plus, the iMac has the best display anyways. Yeah the iMac m4 is a better deal than the Mini with a good display = about the same price. My Brand ther has an old intel iMac and it is still working excellently for over 8 years. He too will be upgrading to the M4 chip
Thank you for putting that in your video of the two external displays, no one was explaining that and that's a huge deal from back in 27 inch iMac when you can run to external displays once again thank you for putting that out there
Hi , Great video , I have been waiting for you to do just this video with these two imac . But I still have one question. About two years ago I purchased my first iMac ( M1 ) and I have to say I love it but occasionally when I'm doing short video drone editing it does struggle . My question is long-term am I better off purchasing the New mac mini M4 and a separate screen ( will the performance be better than the new M4 imac ) and can you do a sound test on the new mini please . I don't need it to play music on a serious level but would still be interested to know what it's like .. much appreciated ... any feedback would be much appreciated .... ❤ ❤
My iMac 5K with i7 4790 and M295X GPU is awesome. They definitely need to produce an iMac with M4 Max. Seems now they want you to buy a Studio and Cinema display.
I feel like MaxTech made the wrong choices in review order here. People want to know binned vs unbinned and does the 14 still thermal throttle max chips in the Macbook Pros
I have never heard the fans in my iMac M1, do you hear the fans when pushing the M4 iMac? Would seem that you would but you seem to say the older M1 kicked up more, maybe do a noise comparison video. Also maybe a iMac vs Mac Mini Pro.
One thing people don’t consider is the number of years left you will get Apple security updates. Even if you get a great price for an old Mac, you have to consider years left of security updates. The M4 chip is amazing. I took a 27” IMac apart to add an SSD. I said never again. I had to take everything out of the case. Very dangerous to break something by accident.
As very tempting as the M4 iMac is I will stick with my M3 iMac with 16/512 I purchased about four months ago as it is satisfying all my current needs.
Thanks for the vid Max, (or Vadeem I can't tell) I'm surprised you didn't upgrade ram, 16 gigs is not enough for your workload, it's not enough for mine that's for sure My only complaint, the chin is useless, I haven't a clue why the MB isn't behind the stand, vertical and centered where it would disappear, use the chin for speakers pointing at my face instead of at my desk, or, keep speakers pointing at desk and use chin for monitor real estate, or just that much smaller in size with view the same
Thanks for the video 🙏 I want to see the iMac vs Mini 👍 Even though they “should” be very similar in performance. I’m on the fence on getting the iMac or the Mini. I’m sure there are some very nice monitors available and maybe save a little money 🤔
I'm a graphic designer, still working on the 27" 2020 iMac (Intel). It's time to upgrade and while I was initially pumped about the M4 Pro Mac mini, buying a new monitor is a dealbreaker, especially when there is no monitor like the 5K one I'm currently using. Apple's monitors are way too expensive. So my biggest question was: is the new iMac "pro enough" to handle all my needs. Thanks for answering! Going back to 24" will be weird but the M4 with 24 GB of RAM will be worth it!
I think the answer is it would more than handle. as an example I had I have an M1 MacBook Pro Max that I bought new last year has 64 gig of memory and a terabyte. I got it for this insane deal at 2299 at Arama new just crazy. My point is as if you look at the benchmarks which I don’t really follow because I’m also graphic designer own and add agency and it’s like the whole benchmark thing. You have to be so careful because it really it depends on your the M chip is so amazing for a while before I got the M1 Max. I was using an M1 MacBook Air to do everything in Adobe and it more than what I needed. I mean I don’t know man I mean I think on that M4 chip with 16 gig you probably be fine but it just depends on what you’re doing. if you think you’re gonna keep that long-term, then I’d maybe go for the 32 gig but it just depends and I mean the nice thing about a desktop is that you can get external storage you don’t need to have the storage be that large if it’s your desktop so anyways, I’m just curious what you do because I think this machine would do more than what you need
ArtIsRight did a comparison of M4 vs. all previous gen., and M4 is the slowest of them all in some real world tests. Quite disappointing. This might explain why no-one is showing the iMac M4 doing anything serious, because it would be slow as hell. Even the SSD is extremely slow at only 2000 Mb/sec. You want at least a Mini with M4 Pro if you're doing any kind of reasonable workload, professional or casual. Even the base M4 Pro is way better than it appears. M4 Pro SSD perf is at the expected 5000 Mb/sec level, same as M1/M2/M3.
Personally I am going with „base” 4 ports version with 16gigs. I can see it not being sufficient in some 3-4 years, but seriously around that time, I will probably upgrade the setup. I can’t see a reason for upgrading RAM, when GPU is caped at M4. IMac is simply not meant to up-spec it, in my opinion, but the value in base is just great. My only problem is if I wan’t nano texture or not and no shop in my country is having them to compare. But I think, I might try to go with the standard and return if reflections will be a problem.
Well, this is a turn up for the books, not too long ago when the first Apple silicon computers were announced, we all thought how incredible they were and they were with the M1, but almost all RUclipsrs were critical of Apple for not making a 27 or 30 inch monitor to go with it, now in 2024 it’s a different story now the screen that was touched too small in 2021 is now big enough and the machine itself is now fast enough to do professional work on, does this mean that you guys know something we don’t and that is we all have to settle on a 24 inch rather than the theoretical 30 inch. Now admittedly, I’m not a professional power user, and I do have the Current M1 24 inch iMac, and it has been absolutely incredible, beautiful machine, has been absolutely faultless from day one and I expect it will continue to be in a long time after. I just thought that maybe the same RUclipsrs would’ve been able to give Apple a bit of a nudge about a big screen, and if they were influential enough Apple just may have listened and then we would’ve all benefit.
Ha Naaaaaw, I prefer the M1 chip with the 16 gig memory and 512 gig storage. I don’t make vids I just do accounting and photos of my precious Grandchild. I also do some photo editing as well and my mbp m1 is great for all my needs. The iMac M1 with my specs is great for me to see all my work on a larger screen.
Yes, it was a terrible unboxing...this guy is a pro and he could have been better prepared with the unboxing...he should have reshot the opening...the rest of the video was excellent...knowing those BMs is a big incentive to make the plunge and buy the new M4...my current M1 I will keep and put in another room...
Would eventually love to see a review comparison of 14" M1 Pro vs M4 14" base. Obviously the M4 is going to be better. But just seeing the in between of them both.
LOL no it isn't. Check out ArtIsRight. He did some real world tests, and M4 is the slowest of all the Mx series. SSD benched at 2000 Mb/sec. It only beat M1 a few times because for some reason the M1 couldn't complete some of the tests, but otherwise M4 was the slowest of them all. That doesn't bode well for the M4 iMac because there is no option to get the M4 Pro that doesn't have any of these issues. Even the base M4 Pro is faster than you'd think. That makes the base M4 look like it has a problem.
If this was bezellwss and even just 90 hz it would be an instant but from me. 23 inches is tiny. And there’s ssooooooo much space on the face at the very least that entire bottom section should just be a big speaker
What workload do you have? Base M4 Pro is faster than it looks, but worth upgrading to get 20 GPU cores, becuse many workloads appear to scale linearly, so you'd get 25% better performance. In some tests it works out slightly faster than this.
@@dougscott188 And mostly worse options. You also lose the option of getting a nice colorful All-In-One with all the peripherals included in one package. You should buy what makes you happy and that could well be the hassle-free experience of an iMac. 🖥️
Hello Vadim! Want to ask you if you sell some of the computers you get for reviewing them? I’m a father of two and photographer, videographer in SoCal, San Diego and Baja. A few weeks ago I went to document an event at Valle de Guadalupe, gorgeous place but, I got jacked by a cartel band and they stole all my bags with my most important equipment (cameras, lenses and my macbook pro) it’s a serious hit since my insurance wont cover for all this in Baja. Lost over $30,000 in equipment and haven’t been able to buy back most of it. I had to give my assignments to fellow producers and act as an spectator/producer and pay for what I could’ve done… so, I need to buy a computer and everything else again but times have been hard after covid. No savings left… please let me know. 🙏🏻
Agree. Everyone is so fond of Apple these days. Any rational change is seen as a blessing from God. Apple doesn't receive the same criticism other companies do.
Mac Mini/Pro + Aftermarket high spec Monitor 🖥️ is a better Choice 👍🏻 ❤ now-a-days WCG (including color depth), static aspect ratio (> 1000:1) and higher frame rates (>75Hz) matters. MSI G274QPF E2 27 Inch WQHD, Dell UltraSharp 27 Thunderbolt™ Hub Monitor - U2724DE, GIGABYTE M27Q & Acer's XZ396QU, Nitro XV275U/K P3 27 Inch VA WQHD 384 Zone Mini LED Gaming Monitor, values more than this one, & I would highly recommend them. :)
Maxtech, did your 2021 iMac have One fan, or TWO? The entry level 2021 iMac (even with 16GB Ram, I believe) only had one fan, and maybe this was why your machine’s fan was ready to take off!
My girlfriend needs a new computer for our businesses, banking & bookkeeping and she was looking at a new Mac mini M4 but if you add in the cost of a Touch ID keyboard, trackpad, and a basic 4K monitor then it’s the same as just getting the iMac 🖥 so hopefully she doesn’t see my comment but she has her office all decked out in purple and gold so I ordered her the purple iMac with nano texture glass as an early Christmas present. Hopefully she doesn’t find it hidden in our spare bedroom closet LOL. I wanted to wait until she had 2 free days in a row to set it up but after this I think I’ll give it to her tomorrow just so I can test it out too!! LOL
ArtIsRight did that test, with M4 and M4 Pro vs. a bunch of earlier gen M1/2/3 of different specs. Worth checking out. Basically, M4 is LESS THAN HALF the performance of M4 Pro, and in a couple of tests was the slowest of them all. M4 Pro is the only real option (for base).
@@paradoxicalcat7173 yep checked out his videos and they far more thorough. And today he posted the M4 Pro with 14 cores vs the M4 Pro with 12 cores and a lot of the tests actually make a difference, so I'm definitely getting the 14 core chip. Overall super impressed with this gen. I think the M4 being a lot less powerful than the Pro/Max chips makes a lot of sense. People like my parents just aren't going to use that power, even the M1 would suit them.
Yes, Professional lowers, accountants, medics, marketers, consultants, financial market specialist, academics, all the professionals around the world that doesn´t need specific super intensive apps .
Came here for this too. I can just look at benchmark numbers online. Hoping they compare the new chips to the M1 a bit more because that's what I'm upgrading from.
Deliberately avoided because the M4 is embarassingly slow. It slower than the whole Mx line-up. Even SSD is the slowest at 2000 Mb/sec. That makes this iMac M4 slow. The base spec to get is M4 Pro, regardless of your workload, because there actually appears to be something wrong with the M4.
I am not gonna buy since I have 2 macbooks but at least they should have also included 512 GB SSD, if I needed an iMac I would definitely at least need 512 GB, if I don't then I will go for macbook air with 256 gb since I know I am gonna use it casually. They need to introduce Pro chip iMac near in the future, hopefully within 3 years so I will for sure upgrade to iMac. Oh, also bring 27inch iMac as well, I need larger screen size as well.
Disappointing hard drive but it's not intended as a pro machine. The internal hard drive is slow and you can't boot from a faster external. The system software benefits from a fast main hard drive.
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Just a question about the ice mag 2 does it really keep your phone from overheating? I’ve had other wireless chargers but they overheat my phone really bad. Does this one work well?
Thank and keep up the good work on your videos they are always awesome 😊
I missed the speaker comparison. Wanted to see it they changed the sound profile a bit.
Hello Vadim! Want to ask you if you sell some of the computers you get for reviewing them? I’m a father of two and photographer, videographer in SoCal, San Diego and Baja. A few weeks ago I went to document an event at Valle de Guadalupe, gorgeous place but, I got jacked by a cartel band and they stole all my bags with my most important equipment (cameras, lenses and my macbook pro) it’s a serious hit since my insurance wont cover for all this in Baja. Lost over $30,000 in equipment and haven’t been able to buy back most of it. I had to give my assignments to fellow producers and act as an spectator/producer and pay for what I could’ve done… so, I need to buy a computer and everything else again but times have been hard after covid. No savings left… please let me know. 🙏🏻
I would rather buy a m4 pro mini and a $7-800 display
why is no one testing gaming on the m4 imac and macbook pro the goal isnt to game on it the goal is to get a real world test on it because games reveal how much ots actually grown
That was the most professional unboxing I ever saw. Choreographed like a real Apple event. ;-)
In coding,compiling, and in everyday usage: no difference between m1 and m4. I'm 100% sure that nobody would guess which one is m1 and which one is m4 after one day work with
Yeah, the M1 is still so snappy and good. You can get used M1 Max macbook pros for a song at this point.
I guess that's the case for almost everything we're using.
A car from 2005 will bring you to work as well as a car from 2024. Truth is that a car from 2024 is probably optimized and has obviously more modern options.
Same for smartphones or PC's, TV's etc. I mean: I don't need a 8K 100" TV set to be able to watch a movie. It's cool and all, but really not required.
Felt like I just bought my M1 Mac 🖥️ 😭
And it’s still gorgeous. 😊
Seems like a better choice is a Mac mini paired with a good monitor.
I guess the M1 iMac is only good for "websurfing", right? Wrong! Still doing serious video editing on it for RUclips videos is NOT a problem in any way, shape or form. And, I'm running 8gb of RAM and tons of other things open at the same time. Once I have that Hollywood or Netflix contract for making a film, I'll upgrade. 🙂
RUclips videos is not serious. 😂
Is it worth it M1 ???
Same my m1 Mac mini is still going strong
@ are they fast??
@@Therealpeter10 Fast enough.
Like the Mac mini, the iMac needs a massive redesign : 21:9 ratio, oled, 120hz and no more chin.
Is it possible to include the Logic Pro test in future videos about the M4 chip family? This was always a big value point for me in your Videos.
Apple needs to release a standalone 24.5" display for Mini buyers.
That’s exactly why they are not doing it, mate.
We want a full comparasion between all base models of Apple silicon Macs in terms of SSD speed. Is it just me or the base M1 8/256 GB is faster than even the latest M4 16/256 GB even with double the RAM, double the CPU performance and with 2*128GB NANDs just like the M1 and M3 base models. At least in terms of write speed, read speeds at almost the same.
I’ve only seen benchmarks for the Mac mini.
That's because they are. No-one quite knows why. What is clear, is I think M2 (?) was slower with 256 Gb SSD because of the way the SSD was connected to the bus. The smaller capacity had fewer data lines limiting bandwidth. Once you went up to 512 or 1 Tb, then the SSD got the full bus bandwidth, and therefore maximum performance. Seems Apple fixed this problem in the M3 and M4 so all capacities get maximum bandwidth.
does the iMac M4 suffers from this horizontal display problem after 2 years of usage as what users of iMac M1 & M3 reported previously?
For the target audience, kids and grandparents, not much of a difference. At least kids will get better gaming experience on Roblox with the M4 version.
@jire9831 The only professionals that could get massive benefits from it are UX/UI designers. They typically need an excellent display for their profession. 4.5k resolution with high color accuracy and 16GB of RAM fits perfectly for them.
@@jire9831people forget the m1 even with 8 gb of ram is capable of quite a bit more then just light browsing. A 400$ laptop can do those things and an m1 mb air can do 4k video editing, photo editing with large raw photos, coding etc. let alone an m4 Mac with double the ram. You probably wouldn’t specifically go and buy this iMac for those things but if you do them sometimes on the side it will more then do it fine.
Do kids and grandmas buy M4 iMac? I literally don't know.
@Eric-qi9us Of course not. Parents buy it for the kids, and a tech savvy family member buys it for the grandparents.
Doesn't the M1 Pro GPU Metal score..score higher than the M4 base gpu?
Max, it is trick of the lighting or is the M4's foot narrower than the M1's?
QUESTION: I have never heard anyone analyze the actual APU count inside each GPU core on the M series chips. I am sure there must be a difference between GPUs on each chip. Can you do a deep dive comparison on the GPU section between the M1 and M4 chips? On nVidia GPU processors the big selling feature is the CUDA core count. The equivalent on the M series would be the APU count. I have found on one reddit post that the M1 has 128 arithmetic units” or 128 APUs per GPU core. I haven’t found the APU count per core for the M4 chips. Also…what frequencies do they run at? THANKS!!
I am waiting for you m4 pro vs m4 max and m4 max binned vs unbinned
ArtIsRight did the best "real world" tests so far.
@@paradoxicalcat7173 yeah. It's best for photographers
would be interesting to see how logic pro performs
Not that I need an iMac since I already have an M3 Max MacBook Pro, but I really do love the yellow color with the matching peripherals.
This is me and I feel guilty as shit for wanting a pink one. OMG why do I need a pink one? I don't. I don't need one. But I cannot stop looking at them.
how many times I heard 24.5 inches, tried to ignore it initially, but anyway, it is 23.5 inches
It was a prank video. Very common on RUclips 😂
@@franzweber7494 This guy stating 24.5” inches wasn’t a prank. It’s a lack of knowledge/misinformation.
24-inch is what is listed on Apple’s website. Middle ground 😆
So you can add additional external displays now? Can you use the new iMac display as an external display for a laptop?
Iv got the 27” iMac which is great screen wise and iv got a 32” screen too. I honestly hope when they finally bring out a proper iMac it’s 32”. I think a wider screen would be more useful. I hope the proper macs look more professional too.
No config displayed! This is not Max Tech standard. I didn't know if you had the base model or one with upgraded chip.
Glad you are still making videos however I am an editor and need a big screen so because of these smaller screens I want to keep my 27” and idk I don’t hear anyone else saying that
so should i buy imac m4, mac mini m4, or macbook pro m4 to play some roblox, minecraft and do some video editing? kind regards - tim
Good vid, I agree with you. I was just wanting to get a monitor for my MacBook Pro M1 chip. A good monitor is about $450 so I’ve decided to trade in my MacBook Pro m1 for the iMac m4 chip. I might as well get this future proof computer which I always come back to my desk to do serious work anyway. Plus, the iMac has the best display anyways. Yeah the iMac m4 is a better deal than the Mini with a good display = about the same price. My Brand ther has an old intel iMac and it is still working excellently for over 8 years. He too will be upgrading to the M4 chip
Thank you for putting that in your video of the two external displays, no one was explaining that and that's a huge deal from back in 27 inch iMac when you can run to external displays once again thank you for putting that out there
I have an iMac M1 with 8/8 Core and 16 GB RAM + 1 TB. It is a really great computer. But when do you thing I need a 24 GB RAM?
ive been dying to buy an imac for ages now's a great time and thanks to you I know exactly why
Can the Max mini M4 use the iMac M1 as a display and how to do? Thanks, Max
Hey. Can we have a m4 mac mini vs m3 macbook pro comparison? With emphasis on pure performance.
i m happy with my m1 i may buy the m6 or m7 if it comes in -3-4 years or so
Do you think It would be good for music production with 32 gb of ram?
Think it would be good for 3D animation and modeling?
Hi , Great video , I have been waiting for you to do just this video with these two imac . But I still have one question. About two years ago I purchased my first iMac ( M1 ) and I have to say I love it but occasionally when I'm doing short video drone editing it does struggle . My question is long-term am I better off purchasing the New mac mini M4 and a separate screen ( will the performance be better than the new M4 imac ) and can you do a sound test on the new mini please . I don't need it to play music on a serious level but would still be interested to know what it's like .. much appreciated ... any feedback would be much appreciated .... ❤ ❤
Still waiting for the MBP testing and reviews... especially M4 Pro vs M4 Max and M4 Max binned vs unbinned & 14" vs 16"
I still hope Apple release a 27”+ iMac Pro. A Mini with display is ok but an all-in-one is just so clean and convenient. Many are asking for it.
My iMac 5K with i7 4790 and M295X GPU is awesome. They definitely need to produce an iMac with M4 Max. Seems now they want you to buy a Studio and Cinema display.
It would be so nice, if you just could buy a M4 Mac Mini and use your old iMac M1 as you Display with speaker instead.
What's stopping you? Isn't AirPlay screen mirroring perfect for that.
@@jansix4287 Why dealing with airplay, when you just could us a stable thundebolt connection instead?
@@pba7 Screen mirroring works wireless and also over cable.
just sell m1 and get samsung 27" m8 or samsung 32" viewfinity s9 display.
@ Oh wie übel. 🤢
I feel like MaxTech made the wrong choices in review order here. People want to know binned vs unbinned and does the 14 still thermal throttle max chips in the Macbook Pros
And here he is comparing Imac
Yes it does. He tests that in his MBP video.
Thank you - very informative review
Sounds like a stupid question but given differences in bezel screen to edges etc in reality how much smaller is this than a 27inch intel?
Appreciate that it’s 4k vs 5k on the intel
I have never heard the fans in my iMac M1, do you hear the fans when pushing the M4 iMac? Would seem that you would but you seem to say the older M1 kicked up more, maybe do a noise comparison video. Also maybe a iMac vs Mac Mini Pro.
They need an M4 Pro chip in a 27" design and I'd buy it if the price was right.
One thing people don’t consider is the number of years left you will get Apple security updates. Even if you get a great price for an old Mac, you have to consider years left of security updates. The M4 chip is amazing. I took a 27” IMac apart to add an SSD. I said never again. I had to take everything out of the case. Very dangerous to break something by accident.
nice but should be 27"inch
Minimum! Ideally 30” or 33”!
And if it was I would have totally bought one! But went with Mac Mini M4 Pro and Studio Display
All unboxing videos should be like this!
As very tempting as the M4 iMac is I will stick with my M3 iMac with 16/512 I purchased about four months ago as it is satisfying all my current needs.
M4 seems to be the slowest of all Mx series processors. Even SSD is extremely slow. Unknown why. Only benches at 2000 Mb/sec.
Is the new iMac M4 🖥️ enough for running scetchup? Or do i need M4 MacBook Pro? 💻
Thanks for the vid Max, (or Vadeem I can't tell)
I'm surprised you didn't upgrade ram, 16 gigs is not enough for your workload, it's not enough for mine that's for sure
My only complaint, the chin is useless, I haven't a clue why the MB isn't behind the stand, vertical and centered where it would disappear, use the chin for speakers pointing at my face instead of at my desk, or, keep speakers pointing at desk and use chin for monitor real estate, or just that much smaller in size with view the same
When is the new studio and display coming?
Thanks for the video 🙏 I want to see the iMac vs Mini 👍 Even though they “should” be very similar in performance. I’m on the fence on getting the iMac or the Mini. I’m sure there are some very nice monitors available and maybe save a little money 🤔
I'm a graphic designer, still working on the 27" 2020 iMac (Intel). It's time to upgrade and while I was initially pumped about the M4 Pro Mac mini, buying a new monitor is a dealbreaker, especially when there is no monitor like the 5K one I'm currently using. Apple's monitors are way too expensive. So my biggest question was: is the new iMac "pro enough" to handle all my needs. Thanks for answering! Going back to 24" will be weird but the M4 with 24 GB of RAM will be worth it!
I think the answer is it would more than handle. as an example I had I have an M1 MacBook Pro Max that I bought new last year has 64 gig of memory and a terabyte. I got it for this insane deal at 2299 at Arama new just crazy. My point is as if you look at the benchmarks which I don’t really follow because I’m also graphic designer own and add agency and it’s like the whole benchmark thing. You have to be so careful because it really it depends on your
the M chip is so amazing for a while before I got the M1 Max. I was using an M1 MacBook Air to do everything in Adobe and it more than what I needed.
I mean I don’t know man I mean I think on that M4 chip with 16 gig you probably be fine but it just depends on what you’re doing. if you think you’re gonna keep that long-term, then I’d maybe go for the 32 gig but it just depends and I mean the nice thing about a desktop is that you can get external storage you don’t need to have the storage be that large if it’s your desktop so anyways, I’m just curious what you do because I think this machine would do more than what you need
Wouldnt it be possilble to use the M4 Pro Mac mini and with your 27" iMac as a Thunderbolt display?
@@adhdaniel that would be ideal of course, but it's not possible since 2014.
ArtIsRight did a comparison of M4 vs. all previous gen., and M4 is the slowest of them all in some real world tests. Quite disappointing. This might explain why no-one is showing the iMac M4 doing anything serious, because it would be slow as hell. Even the SSD is extremely slow at only 2000 Mb/sec. You want at least a Mini with M4 Pro if you're doing any kind of reasonable workload, professional or casual. Even the base M4 Pro is way better than it appears. M4 Pro SSD perf is at the expected 5000 Mb/sec level, same as M1/M2/M3.
Personally I am going with „base” 4 ports version with 16gigs. I can see it not being sufficient in some 3-4 years, but seriously around that time, I will probably upgrade the setup. I can’t see a reason for upgrading RAM, when GPU is caped at M4. IMac is simply not meant to up-spec it, in my opinion, but the value in base is just great.
My only problem is if I wan’t nano texture or not and no shop in my country is having them to compare. But I think, I might try to go with the standard and return if reflections will be a problem.
Look at that Difference
Why are we still using geek bench in 2024 for CPU test?
Well, this is a turn up for the books, not too long ago when the first Apple silicon computers were announced, we all thought how incredible they were and they were with the M1, but almost all RUclipsrs were critical of Apple for not making a 27 or 30 inch monitor to go with it, now in 2024 it’s a different story now the screen that was touched too small in 2021 is now big enough and the machine itself is now fast enough to do professional work on, does this mean that you guys know something we don’t and that is we all have to settle on a 24 inch rather than the theoretical 30 inch.
Now admittedly, I’m not a professional power user, and I do have the Current M1 24 inch iMac, and it has been absolutely incredible, beautiful machine, has been absolutely faultless from day one and I expect it will continue to be in a long time after.
I just thought that maybe the same RUclipsrs would’ve been able to give Apple a bit of a nudge about a big screen, and if they were influential enough Apple just may have listened and then we would’ve all benefit.
Apple do large screens - you just need to pay $4k for it.
Ha Naaaaaw, I prefer the M1 chip with the 16 gig memory and 512 gig storage. I don’t make vids I just do accounting and photos of my precious Grandchild. I also do some photo editing as well and my mbp m1 is great for all my needs. The iMac M1 with my specs is great for me to see all my work on a larger screen.
23.5 inch 😬
60hz 😬
LCD 😬
M1 mac or M4 mac
Its not a phone to worry about 60hz and LCD display. Still Mac Mini seems like a better deal
@@coffeesugar_3228not if you want the correct/best display
No one cares
Have you ever seen a retina display with your eyes?
Anyone else get nervous he was gonna knock it off the counter at 2:10 ?
Yes, it was a terrible unboxing...this guy is a pro and he could have been better prepared with the unboxing...he should have reshot the opening...the rest of the video was excellent...knowing those BMs is a big incentive to make the plunge and buy the new M4...my current M1 I will keep and put in another room...
Please release the M4 Pro Macbook pro video soon 🤞
Would eventually love to see a review comparison of 14" M1 Pro vs M4 14" base.
Obviously the M4 is going to be better. But just seeing the in between of them both.
LOL no it isn't. Check out ArtIsRight. He did some real world tests, and M4 is the slowest of all the Mx series. SSD benched at 2000 Mb/sec. It only beat M1 a few times because for some reason the M1 couldn't complete some of the tests, but otherwise M4 was the slowest of them all. That doesn't bode well for the M4 iMac because there is no option to get the M4 Pro that doesn't have any of these issues. Even the base M4 Pro is faster than you'd think. That makes the base M4 look like it has a problem.
If this was bezellwss and even just 90 hz it would be an instant but from me. 23 inches is tiny. And there’s ssooooooo much space on the face at the very least that entire bottom section should just be a big speaker
I wanna see how it performs in games, both native and in Crossover or Whisky.
If only I needed an iMac this would def be the year I buy my first one
have you stopped doing logic tests?
Should I buy m4 pro 12 or 14 core?
What workload do you have? Base M4 Pro is faster than it looks, but worth upgrading to get 20 GPU cores, becuse many workloads appear to scale linearly, so you'd get 25% better performance. In some tests it works out slightly faster than this.
@ I’m casual user with some gaming. I want to have a macbook that can last at least for the next 5yrs.
They must be working on an iMac 27" with m4 max or ultra. THEY MUST!
This is very nice but I really want my 30" iMac M4 Pro.
Would you recommend a iMac over Mac Mini? What are your thoughts?
Depends on your needs. The Mini you will be able to choose a better monitor than the one built in.
Realistically, you’ll use a worse monitor or a much more expensive monitor of roughly the same quality.
@@jansix4287 that’s the point. You get options with the Mini.
@@dougscott188 And mostly worse options. You also lose the option of getting a nice colorful All-In-One with all the peripherals included in one package. You should buy what makes you happy and that could well be the hassle-free experience of an iMac. 🖥️
Agreed @@jansix4287
Hello Vadim! Want to ask you if you sell some of the computers you get for reviewing them? I’m a father of two and photographer, videographer in SoCal, San Diego and Baja. A few weeks ago I went to document an event at Valle de Guadalupe, gorgeous place but, I got jacked by a cartel band and they stole all my bags with my most important equipment (cameras, lenses and my macbook pro) it’s a serious hit since my insurance wont cover for all this in Baja. Lost over $30,000 in equipment and haven’t been able to buy back most of it. I had to give my assignments to fellow producers and act as an spectator/producer and pay for what I could’ve done… so, I need to buy a computer and everything else again but times have been hard after covid. No savings left… please let me know. 🙏🏻
Finally you review the "real thing" instead of screen capture or apple's video
Many people don’t know that retina pixels are so small that you cannot see them. This makes this monitor invisible.😮
Sorry dude but .... 16 GB ram in 2024 is not "Awsome" 😂 it's just normal
Agree. Everyone is so fond of Apple these days. Any rational change is seen as a blessing from God. Apple doesn't receive the same criticism other companies do.
@@elmarcentral agreed, a blessing from god is definitely not 8 more gbs of ram for the same 200 gbs of storage on base books.
Well on windows 16gb is low average on Apple the thing changes a lot, producing the hardware and software can
Be optimized and no need a lot of ram.
Because your pc windows so heavy for running only 8 even 16gb ram😂😂. Welcome to apple silicon with just only 8gb more enough for beginners😂😂
Mac Mini/Pro + Aftermarket high spec Monitor 🖥️ is a better Choice 👍🏻
❤
now-a-days WCG (including color depth), static aspect ratio (> 1000:1) and higher frame rates (>75Hz) matters. MSI G274QPF E2 27 Inch WQHD, Dell UltraSharp 27 Thunderbolt™ Hub Monitor - U2724DE, GIGABYTE M27Q & Acer's XZ396QU, Nitro XV275U/K P3 27 Inch VA WQHD 384 Zone Mini LED Gaming Monitor, values more than this one, & I would highly recommend them. :)
My biggest complaint is that I can’t get an iPad Mini in the same orange that the iMac comes in.
It would be great if it had an HDMI port to connect a gaming console
Maxtech, did your 2021 iMac have One fan, or TWO? The entry level 2021 iMac (even with 16GB Ram, I believe) only had one fan, and maybe this was why your machine’s fan was ready to take off!
My girlfriend needs a new computer for our businesses, banking & bookkeeping and she was looking at a new Mac mini M4 but if you add in the cost of a Touch ID keyboard, trackpad, and a basic 4K monitor then it’s the same as just getting the iMac 🖥 so hopefully she doesn’t see my comment but she has her office all decked out in purple and gold so I ordered her the purple iMac with nano texture glass as an early Christmas present. Hopefully she doesn’t find it hidden in our spare bedroom closet LOL. I wanted to wait until she had 2 free days in a row to set it up but after this I think I’ll give it to her tomorrow just so I can test it out too!! LOL
The purple looks great. I got orange, but I wish I went with purple. I bet you will both enjoy it.
Bro keep it as a surprise!!! Don’t give to her yet! ….
If no you will have to buy another present xD!😂
Was expecting more tests like Lightroom and Final Cut etc.
In this video he focused on perfecting the unboxing part.
@ yeah I skipped all of that
ArtIsRight did that test, with M4 and M4 Pro vs. a bunch of earlier gen M1/2/3 of different specs. Worth checking out. Basically, M4 is LESS THAN HALF the performance of M4 Pro, and in a couple of tests was the slowest of them all. M4 Pro is the only real option (for base).
@@paradoxicalcat7173 yep checked out his videos and they far more thorough. And today he posted the M4 Pro with 14 cores vs the M4 Pro with 12 cores and a lot of the tests actually make a difference, so I'm definitely getting the 14 core chip. Overall super impressed with this gen.
I think the M4 being a lot less powerful than the Pro/Max chips makes a lot of sense. People like my parents just aren't going to use that power, even the M1 would suit them.
Why theres no hdmi on the imac?
HDMI? :)))
when macbook with m4 max?
Yes, Professional lowers, accountants, medics, marketers, consultants, financial market specialist, academics, all the professionals around the world that doesn´t need specific super intensive apps .
Let me buy Mouse and Trackpad together and I'll get it NOW xD
only the 10 core has 4 thunder bolt ports the base 8 core has 4 ports but only 2 are thunder bolt ports. I went with the 10 core 256gb for my wife
Yes …. But too small. Need 27“ or bigger
Yellow is great
I wish it had an oled 120hz refresh rate to fully utilize the m4 chip capabilities like gaming at high refresh rate😢😢😢
M1 was such a massive leap over intel its been small improvements since then
Where are the Photoshop, Blender, and Resolve tests?
Came here for this too. I can just look at benchmark numbers online. Hoping they compare the new chips to the M1 a bit more because that's what I'm upgrading from.
I would like to see these as well and also difference in the 16 & 24 gb of RAM.
Deliberately avoided because the M4 is embarassingly slow. It slower than the whole Mx line-up. Even SSD is the slowest at 2000 Mb/sec. That makes this iMac M4 slow. The base spec to get is M4 Pro, regardless of your workload, because there actually appears to be something wrong with the M4.
I am not gonna buy since I have 2 macbooks but at least they should have also included 512 GB SSD, if I needed an iMac I would definitely at least need 512 GB, if I don't then I will go for macbook air with 256 gb since I know I am gonna use it casually. They need to introduce Pro chip iMac near in the future, hopefully within 3 years so I will for sure upgrade to iMac. Oh, also bring 27inch iMac as well, I need larger screen size as well.
Awesome & Thanks :)
I plan on getting this for my employees when I move to Vegas.
@ actually it’ll be a couple of different colors except for pink and purple. Those two colors need not apply.
The iMac needs to come in midnight
Disappointing hard drive but it's not intended as a pro machine. The internal hard drive is slow and you can't boot from a faster external. The system software benefits from a fast main hard drive.
Apple gave away the yellow model to youtubers? Why everybody has it?
Nice video
As an apple fanboy this is Disappointing I would go for the 2024 mac mini or MacBook pro
Waiting your MacBook M4 Pro (24GB) 14 inch vs MacBook M4 Pro (24GB) 16 inch vs MacBook M4 Pro 16 inch 48GB RAM one before I decide to buy.
Actually you should really compare with the base model since it has 8c cpu and gpu
And I'm requesting it for past 4 to 5 videos
Waiting for your M4 to M4 Pro Mac Mini Comparison guys .... The Ultra Tiny Mini Size will surely be a screw up for the M4 Pro !!!
You obviously didn't read the directions as to how to open the box.
You forgot the SSD speed test. Did Apple request you not to demo the SSD read/write speeds?
I was wondering about that too.. I though I missed it somewhere/somehow.
M4 SSD perf is the slowest of all Mx series at 2000 Mb/sec. All other M4 Pro and higher bench at 5000 Mb/sec.
I am now convinced you are on apple’s payroll. You have not bothered to do the SSD speed test on the iMac M4 because the speeds are very slow.