Notre Dame just made a HUGE MISTAKE.....
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Notre Dame lands their QB in former Duke quarterback Riley Leonard. Is it a good fit?
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Should Notre Dame have gone after a different QB, or will Riley Leonard lead them to the playoffs next season?
Think he is just there to give us depth and experience. He will probably be starter in beginning before giving it to younger qb. Think freemen doesn’t want a transfer qb starting two out of three years as head coach
@@happynotredamefan3736 i highly doubt that. i dont think you would sit a potential first rounder just to give your young guys a chance to develop
No chance at playoffs next year
@@OfficialOleMiss with NDs schedule i think they have a very good shot at the playoffs. 11-1 and maybe 10-2 would get them in.
Notre Dame got is content with going 8-4 or 9-3 every year so they're cool with it
He’s here to elevate the offense. Not win the heisman. Our team is good enough to win it all. We just need a decent / solid qb who can make plays. Which is exactly what Riley is. Not to mention he’s just here to bridge the gap to cj carr
NOTRE DAME did not make a mistake they needed a QB because Sam Hartman probably declared for the NFL DRAFT.
Hartman has run out of college eligibility
After 6 years?
Before his leg injury against ND Leonard was being graded as a potential first round pick, Hartman was never that highly touted. Riley is bigger, has a better arm, and is way more athletic. Huge upgrade for the fighting Irish☘️
He can’t throw the deep ball. Wildly inaccurate.
Here are his 2023 stats before his injury:
Opponent C/A % Y/C TD INT
Clemson 9-4 17/34 50% 5.1 0 0
Lafayette 9-3 20/21 95.2% 12.1 2 0
Nthwstn 8-5 15/20 75% 11.0 0 0
Connect. 3-9 13/28 46.4. 4.1 0 0
ND 10-3 12/27 44.4%. 5.0 1 1
Total: 77/130 59.2% 7.9 3 1
Omitting Lafayette (1AA - Patriot League)
57/119 C/A
47.9% C%
6.4 Y/ C
1 TD
1 INT
Leonard was most productive as a runner, but ND needs a QB who can throw, not another running back.
Compare that with Angeli’s stats:
34/44 C/A
77.6 C%
11.5 Y/C
7 TD
1 INT
And while Leonard probably has the rushing edge (when healthy), Angeli is a more than capable runner who also throws very accurately, both short and long. With Leonard, defenses will simply take away the short pass and contain him, and he will then be almost completely ineffective. My opinion may be the minority opinion, but Angeli is a much better all-around option, and bringing in Leonard (as a starter) was a huge mistake. As a backup, that is a different story. Leonard is much more one dimensional, and as a strong runner he can manage a game very effectively given ND’s stout defense.
Leonard’s prior projections as a first round pick are wildly off base. He can extend the play and even get some yards with his feet, but he simply doesn’t have the arm yet. That certainly could change, but based on this season before his injury, he is nowhere near the first round. He kind of reminds me of Tim Tebow: an athletic player who can run, but can’t throw particularly well. I think he can be successful at the next level, but not as a quarterback. He will most likely need to change positions. And that is exactly the player that Notre Dame should not be relying upon at QB next season.
The same folks grading him as a first round pick probably graded Zach Wilson as a first round pick as well
You do realize that less than 25% of all first round QB’s in the last 15 years were considered very successful, and that only about 37% had a positive impact on the game? What about the other 63%? Busts! Just because some analyst or RUclipsr mentions a player as a potential first round pick doesn’t make it true. The reality is that while he had a good 2022 season in terms of overall production, he declined considerably in 2023. Sure, he was injured at the very end of the ND game, but he had 5 healthy games before getting hurt. During those games he had less than a 63% completion percentage, 3 TDs and 3 INTs. And that C% includes a game against a 1AA Patriot League team in which he completed 100% of his passes. Remove that game and he was only at about 58%. Definitely not ND caliber, and certainly not NFL first round caliber either, especially given the massive drop off in production Fromm 22 to 23.
As for his size, he is 6’4”, Angeli is 6’2”, and Hartman 6’1”. As for weight, they are all listed at 212.
The bottom line is that to bring in a QB from the portal that has a strong resume, and who is clearly at his best is one thing, but Leonard had a poor season by any measure, and is not even in the same universe as Angeli in terms of throwing skills. To say otherwise is to ignore the actual stats.
@@guildguitars6349he had 4 games before the ND game, Clem, LAF, NU & CONN and he had a 68% completion percentage during those games. If you're going to quote stats, get them right or lose all credibility
Stop with the ND hate! Leonard is arguably an even better QB than Hartman. Not like ASU is doing much right now...😂😂. GO IRISH
Dude Hartman was WAY better, Leonard is injury prone inconsistent and overly reliant on running, he’s not bad but he won’t elevate your team like Hartman had the potential to, ND 9-3 or 10-2 y’all got a really easy schedule though
@Luigi22Green maybe with a way better offensive line and recievers that he had at Duke (a team way less talented than Notre Dame), he can do better than Hartman. He is far more athletic and is way less afraid to run than Sammy. It showed that when he got hurt, he really was the lifeblood of the team. And with him not having played since Louisville, that gives him ample time to recover. And BTW, if we go 9-3 with a schedule that manageable, I may as well root for some MAC team 🤣! He is a perfect replacement for Hartman, and has an even higher ceiling than Hartman did, giving by how he did with not that great of an o line and recievers. WE'RE BACK! GO IRISH!!!
@@bglassman08 Notre Dame always disappoints personally if you were going for a Natty which I assume you are I would take Hartman, he has a way better more accurate arm, you get into the playoffs and your completing like 7/18 passes your not gonna win
@Luigi22Green 9-3 disapointing? Nah. ND has been one of the most consistent programs in the nation over the last few years. Haven't lost more than 5 games since 2016. Are we near the level we were back in the 70s and 80s. No. But look at other programs that were once at the top of college football, like Miami and Nebraska. Unlike Notre Dame, they have been unable to maintain some level of stability and to stay relevant in college football. And even then, it's only some ND fans who make us look ungrateful for a good season just because we're not in the playoff, or even natty. I'm just glad to be relevant. We have a chance to get double digit wins with a bowl win. Only one team out of 133 can win the natty. Only 12 will have a shot by next season. You can't always be winning natties and making the playoff. Georgia just proved that. Of course, I'd love to see ND win a natty next year. Will that happen, likely no. Playoff? Possibly. I can guarantee you that in my lifetime, ND will win a natty. Not saying when, just some point. For all I know, I could be 100% wrong about Leonard by the end of it. It's not like I wasn't glad that Hartman gave us a chance in this last year. I personally just see more potential in Riley. But no matter what, I'm just glad that we're still relevant at the end of it all. Go Irish
@@bglassman08 Notre Dame always loses one or two games they shouldn’t which is what keeps them from the Ohio State Michigan Alabama and Georgia’s of college football, I was really high on y’all’s team this year I was saying 10-2 maybe even 11-1 I thought the only game they should have lost was Ohio State looking at the schedule I think they lose week 1 to A&M I think they def lose against FSU and I think the USC game should be a tossup, this is a fringe playoff team maybe they squeak in but any top team will beat them, Notre Dame is consistently good but they are like Oklahoma where they just never can get over the hump
Hartman had good numbers against bad teams,in 2023.
I don't think we know whether bringing in Leonard was a mistake or not. You only need to look at Joe Burrow's NC year at LSU to know that previous stats won't answer that question.
Leonard is very good
I’m a Duke football season ticket holder who lives in Winston Salem who also likes ND. I got to see plenty of Hartman for the past few years and Leonard the past two. I thought Hartman made sense going to ND since he was a more traditional QB. Leonard is a good QB but I don’t believe he is the caliber of player that ND needs to be serious about playoff chances but hopefully I’m wrong.
The 2024 playoffs will consist of 12 teams (not 4 teams). As a fan I don't know much about Leonard but I trust the judgement of the ND coaching staff - and the ability of OC Mike Denbrock to get the most out of Leonard. He turned Jayden Daniels into a Heisman Trophy winner (that is NOT to suggest that Leonard will achieve the same - only an indication that Denbrock can maximize a QBs abilities)
How is hartman a 'traditional qb' and not leonard? Hartman was a system qb. And how is leonard an nfl quality qb but not ND quality?
Leonard should peak this year ,after another spring fall,camp,and better talent around him than duke,has a stronger arm than hartman had too,better srambler too. Riley had solid numbers as first time starter in,2022,with sub-par talent.
Leonard was pretty good overall in 2022, but then declined dramatically in 2023, telling me that his experience is a non-factor. He was hurt after ND, but until that point against four D1 opponents he was about 58% completion percentage with 2 touchdowns and 1 interception, and his stats against ND were 44% completion percentage, 1 touchdown and 1 interception. Where in his healthy stats for 2023 do you see even a hint of evidence that he should peak with ND next season? He is a decent runner, but so is Angeli, and they weigh the same. There is no comparison at all between their arms as Angeli is a considerably better thrower of the ball. The reality is that if Angeli had to come into a game late and needed a score to win, he is very capable of slinging it all over the field, and is also capable of running effectively as well. Leonard is capable of running, but that is it. Based on the data, Angeli gives ND considerably better odds of getting to and winning a NC, but unfortunately the odds are in favor of Leonard starting as the coaching staff and university are more financially vested in him than in Angeli. I
Hope I’m wrong about that, but time will tell
@@guildguitars6349 To be fair, from my experience chipping my ankle 15 years ago, I learned to not be fooled and let it heal. Injured ankles will play tricks on you. I think he would've been able to possibly show his potential Duke's last 2 games if he let it heal. Also, to be fair he was playing against a one of the best secondary's in the country that had Benjamin Morrison and The Bronko Nagurski award winner-Xavier Watts at safety who irocnicaly had that one pick against him.
@@DCSk8er529 all true, but his stats prior to the ND game, aside from the 1AA Lafayette game, were mostly very weak and one dimensional, and were nowhere near ND caliber stats. And as long as we are being fair, Steve Angeli did everything asked of him all season, then completely balled out in the bowl game when given his shot. He also has multiple years of eligibility remaining while RL has just one. Given ND’s relatively weak schedule this year (on paper), it still makes much more sense to go with Angeli, who should be able to get ND to the playoffs at least as easily as Leonard, but who will then provide continuity at the QB position going forward, with two more studs coming in over the next two seasons.
ND already made their bed with this one, so it’s a moot point. The only hope now is that the new OC will come in and ignore the NiL monies going to Leonard, and will conduct an honest and fair competition. If he does that I am confident Angeli will be behind center in week 1.
@@guildguitars6349 Denbrock is a proven OC, I'm not too worried. And there's WR help this time.
@@guildguitars6349 If anything I'm more excited for Xavier Watts this season.
Can Geno help develop him? If so, he could do great things. Especially with more talent around him. We will see if he can do it on the big stage at ND.
update: Sam Hartman signed a UDFA contract with the Commanders
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Blake i love your videos man, but i completely disagree with this take. As an ND fan i wish we didn't get a transfer at all and stuck with CJ Carr our 5⭐ QB next season. Leonard played hurt vs Louisville and FSU and honestly shouldn't have been playing. His 2022 statline is his true talent level
Yea No Way does Freeman go with a true freshman next year unless we see two injuries at QB at least.
I like Carr, but no chance you're starting a true freshman, no matter how talented. UCLA tried that with Dante Moore and it was a complete disaster.
No WAY!! He is a Beast! Super strong arm. Patrick Mahomes prototype.
Ha, this is great coming back to look at these comments after NIU took them down 16-14 in week 2 of the 2024 season. NIU defense picked him off twice, sacked him twice, and held him to 5.1 yards per completion (20/33 for 163 yards).
This was no mistake by no means
From Alabama and a Notre Dame fan? That's tremendously hard to imagine!!!
He was recruited by David Cutcliffe to Duke, who also grew up in Alabama as a Notre Dame fan. Who knew the subway alumni ran so far south?
Huskys the odd team out in quarterback sweepstakes so far appears,unless sudden change by top QBacks.
He fits perfectly with Notre Dame, the F are you going on about?
❤Awesome as always thanks go bucks
More mobility than Hartman
I’m a Nd fan and I agree with this video. There were so many other QBs in the portal but the coaches had their heart set on this one. If we weren’t ND with our academic standards and not willing to take under class men we could have gone after anyone else.
Who else would you have wanted? Leonard was getting first round grades before his injury and has all the potential in the world. I could see an argument for Ward but he comes from an air raid system so im not sure how well he would mesh with ND.
@@guineapigclips5205 I’m not a fan of a kid who can’t stay healthy. Hopefully this will be like in 2021 with Jack Coan. We ended playing with 3 QBS that year. Two during most of it. So I’m hoping before the year is over CJ Carr or Kenny Minchey will have taken over or be close to be doing so. Deuce Knight comes in 2025 and hopefully we’re done with this transfer QB BS
@@IAmTrash1995 yeah i think this will be the last year we have to deal with a tranfer qb. as for his health, thats something i'm worried about, but he should be better behind a ND oline than he was at duke and hes only gotten injured this one time (remember hartman missed a season with injury)
Leonard is as good as people think
@@Fravel_Editz it’s an honor to see someone from Blue and Gold here.
Love the content. Keep it up
As a longtime Husky fan I think you did your homework on Dylan Morris. I kind of feel sorry for him a little bit. He stuck it out for 2 years at Washington even after being replaced by Penix. I think he’s got a lot of character and his devotion to the program was great. Now the bad…Unfortunately, he looks small out there. For being a fairly accurate passer he had this uncanny knack of throwing the ball into the back of his linemens head or the defenders hands. You never really felt like he would win the game for you and was more of a game manager. I’m willing to eat my words though if he’s fixed those problems in the last 2 years and he actually looked good when he came in to the games in the 4th quarter during blowouts. He also looks like he improved his arm strength as well. I’ll definitely be rooting for him like I did for Jake Haener when he left for Fresno State and reinvented himself under….Kalen DeBoer.
Morris looks like a walk on that should only be playing garbage time. He needs to go play at a lower level.
Don’t worry they’ll go 8-4/9-3 again!!
not with the schedule this year.
If we don’t make playoffs I will probably change my username and will most likely want freemen fired
Have you seen our schedule
go slob on someone else's knobs Vasquez usc sucks
Weird take on this one
Think our lacrosse team might have a better qb.
😂😂
Dude as an Alabama fan, he was awful against South Florida
@@ajevans1422
I was half joking, I was one of the fans saying Pine was better. I don’t think Tyler was the main reason the offense was bad though. Think there was locker drama behind the scenes.
@@happynotredamefan3736 yeah there is never one sole reason for a team playing bad.
Feels like a downgrade
Definitely not
I can't believe how overrated Riley Leonard is. His stats are beyond mediocre. 1100 yds and 3 tds in 7 games? That's pathetic.
Dude, do you realize he played on one leg after the ND game right and rushed for some TDs too. You don't know ball
One Leg and Horrible supporting cast yeah he’s shit
@wickedbroncoproductions9498 Uh no I do know ball and statistics don't lie. Those are very mediocre stats.
3,000 yards passing and 33 total touchdowns in 2022. I thought the kid was done for the seaso with that injury late against Notre Dame .
@@k_e3735 last year when he was healthy (13 games): 31 touchdowns to 6 ints at DUKE, over 3600 total yards increased offensive ppg by 10. this year when healthy (5 games), 7 tds 1 int over 1200 yards. seems pretty damn good for a qb at duke
Dumb title of the show.
Leonard is solid but not as good as Hartman
I think hes definintly better than Hartman. if you watched hartman down the stretch he looked really bad, while rileys a guy who was getting first round draft grades before his injury.
He's better
I disagree. Hartman was a quality leader, but he was a system QB. He played well, but his talents were maxed out and he was able to implement WF's system to perfection after 5 years under it. But Hartman's ceiling is lower than Leonard's. He had a solid arm, with solid mobility, with a solid frame. Leonard is a good runner with a great arm, which is why he was getting 1st round buzz prior to his injury against us.
@@SuperSparrow45I agree with what you’ve said, however I’d said Leonard is a great runner with a good arm instead of the inverse. The can still develop his arm, but you can’t teach 6’4 and 4.5 speed.
People in these comments are slandering him, but Leonard is easily one of the most athletic QBs in all of CFB. If he plays well at ND, he’s going first round for sure.
I think Leonard has crazy untapped potential, if I was an NFL gm I’d be all over him in next year’s draft. His athletic profile is truly intriguing.
Yup, Leonard is a good quarterback , but I don't think he's elite or significantly better than Sam Fartman. 💯 I guess we're doing better on quarterbacks than before , now we can buy the ACC's quarterbacks instead of being stuck with people like Buckner. 💯 Leonard will get us in the Pinstripe Bowl or the Sun Bowl , that's for sure. 💯 GO IRISH !!!!!! 💯🍀🍀🍀
Depends if we pick up a few more of the top tier talent in this portal, like safety, maybe O.T. another top tier W.R. 1 exp, l. Backer too.
Igaf less about Notre Dame...I thought they hit a home run last year...with their transfer QB but I was definitely wrong 🤣😂
I’m starting to miss Book.
It was less about Hartman and more that he had no WR's to throw to. It got to the point where ND was rotating in a true freshman, another true freshman, a converted RB and a true-freshman walk-on LAX player at receiver. Oh, and their #1 TE got hurt halfway through the season.
@@SuperSparrow45 no f**** given...join the B1G y'all been regressing our could've been greats🤣😂
@@SuperSparrow45 right...same thing Michigan been doing ALL mfn year 🤨
Hehe 6th
Lol idk what ND was thinking
They picked up a great qb in the portal to fill a need. not much to get confused about
I think I do, we want a veteran qb but not one too good to scare our younger qbs into transferring. Think freemen wants him there an option in case neither qb is ready. Freemen probably doesn’t was two transfer qbs starting in his three years at Norte Dame
@@happynotredamefan3736 have to disagree with you there. leonard isnt a guy you bring in just to be solid.
Getting a Top 5 QB in the portal
@@Fravel_Editz seems like a team like ND could've gotten a better one seems like they cheaped out tbh
doesn’t matter. i’m a life long Irish fan. We can whoop every other team we play but whenever it’s a top 5 team. we get smoked
1-1 vs top 5 teams under freeman
@@guineapigclips5205 that is true