I don't know how youtube got it recommended to me, but there is a channel called Game Science, with a video named 'Black Myth Wukong Possessed by Wukong One-to-one replica action!'. I think its KG_pe58mcDc on youtube address. It shows how to use the staff that is meant to and not swinging it in the western POV as in this video. That chick put all the points made about the usefulness to another level.
But is it Stick Noble, or Stick Royal. Or did you have stick at home and were sadly dissapointed by the relative length and girth of everyone elses Stick? (dont ask me hiow my brain made it from point c to point w but there was a comment about whter it was Stick Plus or Stick Premium, and this joke was what my brain produced as "similar-esque-ish enough. 🤣🤣🤣
Ruyi Jingu Bang translates to "Compliant Golden Hooped Rod" because it will change size and shape (whilst remaining a rod) when asked, it also weighs some 100,000 kilos or something ridiculous lile that. Sun Wukong tucks it into his ear for covenience
I was wondering if a staff that heavy would be made of such dense material that it would collapse on itsef, then I looked it up and remembered, the ruyi jingu bang is actually 20 feet long and as wide as a barrel. it's solid iron. it just shrinks down for Sun Wukong to use it. and he shrinks it to the size of a needle and tucks it behind his ear when he's not using it.
@@TheDefectiveAI In the myth Wukong only swings it on demons, for bandits he just drops it on the ground and the bandits seeing the staff sinking into the ground already get the message. If they don't he'd drop it on them.
Journey to the West lore describes this object as originally not a weapon, but a depth measuring stick used to measure the depth of the East China Sea. Wukong was not happy with all the other weapons presented to him because those were too light, so he took the water measuring stick, which weight 7 tons and has the magical properties of changing size on demand.
in other iteration i've heard before, the stick was mean to hold and stabilize the ocean. And thanks to certain monke who took it away, it causing the ocean became unstable, that's why we got high tide/low tide, wave, tsunami, etc
@@bocahcebol2815yes the lore talks about the stick having magical properties and was a device used by Yu the Great to stabilize the ocean. It was not designed to be a weapon, but Wukong finds it perfect as a weapon for himself.
@@WSOJ3 imagine someone came to your house, asking to borrow stick to catch a fruit, but instead he took pillar of your house. That's what Dragon King feels probably, lol
A little back ground to Yu the Great, whom the lore claims used the magical depth measuring stick to stabilize the East Sea. Yu the Great was the founder of China’s first Dynasty - Xia. Recent archaeological findings have proven many of the descriptions - are in fact accurate. Yu oversaw a transition in governing model of China from local township tribes to a centralized government model that oversees a large swath of land over multiple tribes and townships. It transformed individual local tribes to a unified nation and hence forming a “dynasty”. How did Yu achieve that? According to historical accounts, Yu’s era was troubled with constant floodings, as Earth came out of the last mini ice age and water level rose. Yu himself was an expert at constructing infrastructures and devices that are used to control flood. Tribes came to him to help managing flood and he became the most important person that everyone goes to for help. Eventually tribal leaders are united under Yu and he became the leader of China’s first dynasty. With Yu, China transformed from a primitive tribal society to a feudalism society. Journey to the West built upon the history of Yu the Great and featured a water depth measuring stick built by Yu as the main weapon of the story.
It's a great weapon for civilian use out in public while travelling. A staff for walking assistance, a great melee weapon for self defense, and you aren't coming off as being overly aggressive the way walking around with swords or other weapons visibly on your person would be so you could carry it without issue into your favorite tavern and no one would bat an eye.
So many people underestimate the usefulness of this kind of particular stick design, not just as a weapon but as a general tool for literally anyone. It comes off as the Perfect self-defense weapon against bandits often armed with pikes, doesnt immediately come off as threatening, can be used as a walking stick or carry heavy objects for long period of time. Truely the swiss army knife of the medival time.
This is a necessity for every hike, be it in the typical western forest or the mythical chinese forests, this is a primal necessity, to have a stick that feels good to swing and to walk with, its the perfect tool for mental health
This is infinitely better then a spear in one category. Its not a weapon of war. You show up somewhere with a spear and your there to make something dead. You show up with a fancy walking stick and your either fashionable or eclectic. Having this on your person is not automatically an implied threat
Eh, big metal weights on the end are something more than just "fashionable or eclectic". The reason why this thing is not an implied threat is because it's clear that if you wanted to kill someone with this monstrosity, they'd be dead already :D
The term you may be looking for to describe something that isn't going to kill people as easily is "less lethal". That's the official way the US Army started defining items after their "non-lethal" pepper paintballs started killing people.
A weapon can be less lethal just as a lock can be pick-proof. Not at all. Locks are pick resistant and weapons are less lethal. But there can and will always be the situation where things are lethal.
@@Jimalcoatl Paintballs aren't capable of killing anyone with blunt force trauma. I played paintball for many years and it was common for people to turn up the velocity of their guns so I also am more than familiar with what can happen when they shoot too fast. You got a clink that proves that was the cause of death ?
The Ruyi Jingu Bang in the original Journey to the West - The inscription indicates that the staff follows the commands of its owner, shrinking or growing to his whim, make copies of itself, and that it is immensely heavy, weighing 17,550 lbs (7,960 kg). Monkey carried it behind his ear as a toothpick. He could also lift literal mountains with ease, so imagine how hard this stick could actually hit,
He can also turn into a small insect, flying into your mouth while you are sleeping, then let the stick revert back to its original size while inside your stomach......
@@maxm9960 He's also Immortal many times over - Daoist training, book of the dead, peaches of immortality, pills of immortality. drink, purification when the heaven's tried to melt him, and later in his Journey Ginseng Fruit (whose smell can add centuries alone) and Buddha's congratulations feast - all forms of immortality.
@@maxm9960 or not even revert it and just sorta drop it in there, i think it only changes in size not actually the weight just wukong built different, so if he just fed you the toothpick sized staff, it would tear its way straight through your body as the sheer weight of it pulverized anything in its path
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you would just explode into bloody paste if you got hit by the Monkey King as a normal dude. I mean, it's like having an object as heavy as a dump truck getting swung at you!
Amazing crafting and review there! Staff is indeed a powerful weapon. Yup however two of the main reasons we dont see it as a more often weapon choice in history would be 1. Staff is an effective solo weapon, however a lethal Staff hit would take quite some spaces for a full swing, making it a poor weapon choice for large scale combat where fighting were usually done in line formation and in packed spaces. 2. Staff would require more training to make it a lethal weapon, while many other weapons like spear can be pick up by anyone easily to do a lethal thrust. The skill threshold of staff made it a less popular choice for majority. Oh , btw Shad had really demonstrated some very amazing staff skills there.
Iguess you overlooked some points in the copying process. As a kind of Chinese weapon, the stick(棍棒) is made of elastic wood, such as processed ash wood (白蜡木). Such a stick can store more energy, so it can be swung faster and more powerfully. The author of "Journey to the West" chose a stick as Sun Wukong's weapon, probably because this weapon was more common among Chinese folk and Buddhist armed forces(such as Shaolin Temple 少林寺) at the time, but Sun Wukong did kill many Yaoguaies with the "jingubang" in the book.
Something unmentioned is how easy it is to create one of these versus creating a proper glaive or halberd. If you had limited resources in an historical context, this would be easy to produce a bunch of out of farming implements and stuff.
Many thanks guys - enjoyed your video so much. And what you did was such fun! I know this Wukong thing is ancient Chinese mythology but also based on Chinese Zen/Tao/Philosophy. To appreciate the deeper meanings hidden behind all those details in the game, one could check out the Chinese novel “A journey to the west” or the Chinese Zen Book “How to be Happy: the Wisdom to Attain Happiness and Success by Constructing an Invincible Mind”.
We have trained with old manuscripts for "Stick" Weapons. It all began with regular sticks, then we added a tip to train for spears, followed by attaching an axe head for halberds. Lastly, we incorporated two caps for dual side fighting. It makes sense that all techniques in these three categories complement each other, offering similarities with distinct differences and unique attacks. In the Manuscripte was written, that the Stick is legal everywhere and can be used as walking stick.
Sun Wukong's staff weighed around 17000lbs. If you can swing something that heavy around like it's a staff, it's obviously going to be stronger than any other melee weapon.
STICK PREMIUM, STICK PLUS - loved that... so true, nice build....I make flutes for a living we should collaborate, I've done a handful of staffs in the past... maybe we could make a staff that doubles as a weapon, but also doubles as a musical instrument!
@@comradebork no, it is a machine gun with an insane rate of fire chambered in .22lr You can watch Brandon Herrera's video on it if you search for "American 180"
In China, the use of sticks is associated with the local form of Buddhism, which is the most anti-killing among all branches of Buddhism. This connection stems from China's ancient traditions. Over thousands of years, the country has seen too much bloodshed due to wars, with a history of constant violence. As a result, Chinese philosophy, including religious and political ideologies, has developed a strong aversion to killing over time. There's even a social stigma attached to professions that involve taking lives. Additionally, China has a long history of imperial rule, which was very worldly and restrictive. Both indigenous religions and philosophical schools in China value simplicity and advocate for a life of minimal desires. They favor peace and often aspire to a life beyond the worldly concerns.
If you hit somebody with it, they could get a staff infection. If you're practicing traditional medieval weapons craft in a training setting and you accidentally hit somebody, they could get a HEMAtoma!
@@amyb.6368 I have to keep my sense of humor. My kid brother recently got into legal hot water. He got lured into an investment opportunity involving a trampoline park in Prague and got arrested for bounced Czechs!
Monkey stick is not a weapon you would use in an army. You need to swing it around in big arcs, and you can't do that when in tight formation. A spear, you just poke forward. A halberd, you chop down. You can use those when you have other guys right next to you. The quarterstaff is an effective weapon for individuals, but it's not a military weapon for use in infantry formations, so you're not going to have armories full of quarterstaffs, and you're not going to have masses of people training with them.
@@comradeblin256 I think you're missing a sense of scale. The Roman Empire, for example, maintained a standing army of about half a million, in order to face off against their enemies, who presumably had comparable numbers combined. As for the monks, the historical records are that they rarely went to war, and they fielded numbers in the low hundreds. There's no doubt that the monks were very competent with the staff, and with any other weapons they used, but there's not masses of them, not like the masses of conventionally armed and trained infantry.
One thing I wish fantasy fiction got better was the prevalence of polearms for. Especially in armies they'd be more prevalent than swords for the common soldier. I think people take the kind of dueling culture of the renaissance and extend it backwards into the era of broadswords and knights centuries prior.
Outstanding. I am enjoying your vids so very much. Very happy I stumbled across your channel a couple of days ago. I have subscribed and am in the process of catching up on your presentations. I have good friends in Scotland who just returned to their home from a vacation over here in Florida. I will tell their son about your channel also. Being an American, your new creation brings to mind a saying of one of our presidents, President Theodore Rosevelt, many years ago concerning his approach to international affairs. "Walk Softly and Carry a Big Stick."
Everyone loves the stick!! 🙌 Remember when you were a kid and picked up that stick and imagined you were the best warrior and no one could stop you? Always a spot in our hearts for Stick! Ruyi Jingu Bang!
It occurs to me that Shad has never done a proper video about sais! How have we not gotten a video about the preferred weapon of Raphael and Elektra? We've seen plenty of videos discussing the weapons of the other Ninja Turtles. But I need to know more about sais! Are they stabbing weapons? Could they stab? Should they stab? Are they deadly in battle or as lame as nunchucks? I can easily Google the answers to these questions, but I want Shad's opinion! I suspect we all do.
Although they are often portrayed as daggers, real sais are steel batons, lacking a point or edge. They were designed as non-leathal weapons that could counter swords and were predominantly used by the guards of nobles who forbid bladed weapons being carried in their presence to mitigate the risk of assassination. Law enforcers also used a variant with only one prong, called a jitte. The bladed weapon that the sai is often confused with is the parry dagger, which serves the same sword-catching purpose in addition to being a stabbing sidearm. And what Elektra uses are more like parry-shortswords.
That staff would be more accurate if it was metal, as the original staff was made of pitch-black iron with both ends tipped with gold, if yours was like that it would be HEAVY.
@@JamesJohnsonQ I wonder why Chinese movies keep depicting is as a red painted staff. Must be because the 1986 series was so iconic that they keep that depiction.
The staff was originally a pillar used to hold up the undersea palace of Aoguang. The pillars that were used in palace construction during this and later periods were usually painted red, hence the colour of Wukong’s staff in latter adaptations. Black iron is more likely a description of the material.
6:13 fun fact about this is that there is actually a perk in game called凤穿花 (literal translation would be “phoenix piercing flower” but idk what the in game translation is, I played the Chinese version) where monke would thrust the polearm out just like that
Monkey Stick is the reason why every adventurer should carry a 10-ft pole. Not because of looking for traps and such, but because it's just a damn effective weapon that no one would assume is a weapon.
Nate had to get a normie job due to financial reasons. He apparently got a good offer from some company and chose to leave to save the channel money and work on his career.
The reason why they didn't add any blade or real spike to the ends of the staff is very simple: It's supposed to be a non-lethal weapon. It's designed for the likes of monks in the east, who detest killing in their training and principles.
@@scottydu81 There are translated books, although to be honest, I primarily grew up with the television adaptation (most Chinese people did). I don’t recall if any adaptation, live action or animated, ever was translated to English though.
Yes! Me Grug. In way, me be like monkay-king Wukong: in small way. Me get stick in yard. Me get stick and make pokey-pokey. Me walk with pokey-pokey. Me use pokey-pokey to fend off big bugs that bother when walk on big, long black-stone. When Grug stand on yellow stripe, big shell-bugs run up to Grug and make loud screaming noise, louder than goose’s honk. Me poke soft-spots at base, much spongy and make big bug slower. Me chase, put dents in shell. Bug no bother Grug no more, but many bugs, not all know Grug power.😂
Legend has it that the staff changes size as the user wills. The monkey used to minimize the staff and carry it in his ear canal. Makes you wonder how he ever managed to not blow his head off accidentally by subconsciously thinking about growing the staff.
What you haven't realized is that Shao Lin monks had staves with metal caps on the ends specifically to increase their effectiveness against armor, and also used hexagonal and/or octagonal staves to cause more damage with the rotation of their thrusting techniques - as you turn your wrist over as you thrust, and back as you pull back - rolling the harsh edges against their opponents.
Monks picked the staffs as their mercy weapons for self defence just because they don't cut so it shouldn't kill people but dude this thing will send the bad guys into reincarnation in a sec.
The other thing about a stick is that it's just a stick. That's the real reason staves and shillelaghs were used, they don't violate laws that say only nobles can carry weapons.
This reminds me, I remember being told that canes and walking sticks were once common because they were used as weapons against dogs and petty criminals. I think I even saw something about a "medieval" training manual for fighting with a cane.
me: why's he wearing fur in the summertime? doesn't it get hot in australia? me, seconds later: i forgot the southern hemisphere has backwards weather...
Another benefit of having a staff with double-ended weights : if one of the ends break (or the weight flies off), you now have a nice, long one-sided club
I love you and Tyranth working together. I learned some Jo techniques through Aikido and I love it so much more than bokken (sword). It is so versatile in both offense and defense.
He was correct when he said it was short. We had ones special made for us. And how we got the length was simply to put ones arm in the air. The stick had to be from the ground to the tip of our fingers. That's what we trained with. The short one we used was from the ground to ones shoulder.
Fun fact: In Japanese, Sun Wukong/ Son-Goku's stave is called the _'Nyoi-bō'_ (Nyoi stick/ staff). Makes me think of that episode of Spongebob with Doodlebob😆
Oh yeah. About time staffs got some lovin'. It's been far too long they've been under appreciated, and Ruyi Jingu Bang is definitely the king of all staffs.
there are styles that have focus on changing the stance and the grip after you strike or during defense contact, that's where the double end comes to play
The books translation I believe does call it a "would-be cudgel" which means it is more of a club than a traditional staff weapon. Strong enough to turn a normal creature into a meat patty with one heavy swing. Love the story of wukong
So is it Stick Premium or Stick Plus?
Stick +1
It's a QUALITY stick. Great work on it, brother!
Stick Premium Pro Plus⬆
@@Raptor091288Monke Stick +1!!! 😆!! Show the respect it deserves 😂😆🤣
Stick +
Finally, someone has come to understand the true majesty and power of the mighty stick!
Even children understand the power of a stick
I think there is something instinctual that triggers in human brain when we see a nice stick.
Is this stick premium or stick+ ?
@@shinodamasaru7945 Stick: Definitive Edition.
@@shinodamasaru7945 stick plusmium
*Shads favorite weapon, the noble STICK.*
Mark this, it not just any stick, it a stick of merit, a stick that make Buddha once.
I don't know how youtube got it recommended to me, but there is a channel called Game Science, with a video named 'Black Myth Wukong Possessed by Wukong One-to-one replica action!'. I think its KG_pe58mcDc on youtube address. It shows how to use the staff that is meant to and not swinging it in the western POV as in this video. That chick put all the points made about the usefulness to another level.
@@pukimars8621
But is it Stick Noble, or Stick Royal. Or did you have stick at home and were sadly dissapointed by the relative length and girth of everyone elses Stick? (dont ask me hiow my brain made it from point c to point w but there was a comment about whter it was Stick Plus or Stick Premium, and this joke was what my brain produced as "similar-esque-ish enough. 🤣🤣🤣
It's a downsized pillar
Ruyi Jingu Bang translates to "Compliant Golden Hooped Rod" because it will change size and shape (whilst remaining a rod) when asked, it also weighs some 100,000 kilos or something ridiculous lile that. Sun Wukong tucks it into his ear for covenience
Surprised Shad can pick it up so easily.
It was also not made to be a weapon. It was a pillar from the palace of a dragon king who used it to contain bad weather and tsunamis.
little less than 8000 kgs
I though its OG name is " Sea Measure Needle'
@@rolandswift4311 I find it hilarious that a monkey has been slapping demons with a piece of a building! 😅
And the authentic staff weights 17,550 lbs. That would be a hell of a 'Bonk'
Even mini-nuke sounds less deadlier than this
Honestly it would probably just cleave through someone as roughly as if you hit them with the dragon slayer sword.
I was wondering if a staff that heavy would be made of such dense material that it would collapse on itsef, then I looked it up and remembered, the ruyi jingu bang is actually 20 feet long and as wide as a barrel. it's solid iron. it just shrinks down for Sun Wukong to use it. and he shrinks it to the size of a needle and tucks it behind his ear when he's not using it.
Ye the weight would contribute alot
@@TheDefectiveAI In the myth Wukong only swings it on demons, for bandits he just drops it on the ground and the bandits seeing the staff sinking into the ground already get the message. If they don't he'd drop it on them.
I have so much admiration for Tyranth for the quality that he actually makes all of this stuff.
I wish I had a bit of his talent and more importantly, his workshop.
It's amazing really
Journey to the West lore describes this object as originally not a weapon, but a depth measuring stick used to measure the depth of the East China Sea. Wukong was not happy with all the other weapons presented to him because those were too light, so he took the water measuring stick, which weight 7 tons and has the magical properties of changing size on demand.
Your pfp perfectly encapsulates how I felt about him not mentioning that.
in other iteration i've heard before, the stick was mean to hold and stabilize the ocean. And thanks to certain monke who took it away, it causing the ocean became unstable, that's why we got high tide/low tide, wave, tsunami, etc
@@bocahcebol2815yes the lore talks about the stick having magical properties and was a device used by Yu the Great to stabilize the ocean. It was not designed to be a weapon, but Wukong finds it perfect as a weapon for himself.
@@WSOJ3 imagine someone came to your house, asking to borrow stick to catch a fruit, but instead he took pillar of your house. That's what Dragon King feels probably, lol
A little back ground to Yu the Great, whom the lore claims used the magical depth measuring stick to stabilize the East Sea.
Yu the Great was the founder of China’s first Dynasty - Xia. Recent archaeological findings have proven many of the descriptions - are in fact accurate. Yu oversaw a transition in governing model of China from local township tribes to a centralized government model that oversees a large swath of land over multiple tribes and townships. It transformed individual local tribes to a unified nation and hence forming a “dynasty”. How did Yu achieve that? According to historical accounts, Yu’s era was troubled with constant floodings, as Earth came out of the last mini ice age and water level rose. Yu himself was an expert at constructing infrastructures and devices that are used to control flood. Tribes came to him to help managing flood and he became the most important person that everyone goes to for help. Eventually tribal leaders are united under Yu and he became the leader of China’s first dynasty. With Yu, China transformed from a primitive tribal society to a feudalism society.
Journey to the West built upon the history of Yu the Great and featured a water depth measuring stick built by Yu as the main weapon of the story.
I was watching Shadiversity, and then all of a sudden, I got MORE Shadiversity! Nice!
Very nice.
It's a great weapon for civilian use out in public while travelling. A staff for walking assistance, a great melee weapon for self defense, and you aren't coming off as being overly aggressive the way walking around with swords or other weapons visibly on your person would be so you could carry it without issue into your favorite tavern and no one would bat an eye.
Let's not forget, in a civilian setting even city guards won't always wear armour, much less anyone else.
And it’s not lacking in stopping power, a good wack could concuss someone or break their ribs. Either way this thing hurts
Can you board a plane with it?
Monks use staffs as weapons because of Buddhism's "non-killing" principle, not because of how effective they are.
Ornate the ends a bit and everyone would simply think it's part of your attire.
Tyranth: I have a weapon for you.
Shad: Meh….
Tyranth: Stick.
Shad: *monke noises*
Tyranth: Monke stick.
Shad: *primitive caveman noises*
Reject modernity, return to monke
I think Shad likes sticks, can't tell
So many people underestimate the usefulness of this kind of particular stick design, not just as a weapon but as a general tool for literally anyone. It comes off as the Perfect self-defense weapon against bandits often armed with pikes, doesnt immediately come off as threatening, can be used as a walking stick or carry heavy objects for long period of time. Truely the swiss army knife of the medival time.
Well monk also use their stick as laundry pole so
The stick...the grandfather of all weapons. The stick and the rock were mankind's first tools and weapons.
And the tools our ancestors used to exterminate almost all other megafauna. They are how we glitched the game. 💪
A grown man monkeying around at his castle.
This is why the Internet exists. 😅
Because they are awesome. Castle, every man wants one.
Thats what wukong did when he got his weapon
Sort of
This is a necessity for every hike, be it in the typical western forest or the mythical chinese forests, this is a primal necessity, to have a stick that feels good to swing and to walk with, its the perfect tool for mental health
ITS A STICK, OF COURSE ITS A GOATED WEAPON
Lol
Ruyi Jingu Bang, the weapon of The Great Sage Equal to the Heavens.
The Victorious Fighting Buddha
The handsome monkey king
The Handsome Monkey King
Yeah
I love the simplicity: a magical fantasy weapon used by a powerful legend, and the weapon of choice is STICK
It's a badass stick tho
VERY HEAVY stick.
It was one pillar stable the sea.
A stick that weighs almost 8 tons, and can change size.
@@TheHornedKing short tons, long tons or metric tons?
@@HappyBeezerStudios Metric. I don't even know what those others are.
This is infinitely better then a spear in one category. Its not a weapon of war. You show up somewhere with a spear and your there to make something dead. You show up with a fancy walking stick and your either fashionable or eclectic. Having this on your person is not automatically an implied threat
Eh, big metal weights on the end are something more than just "fashionable or eclectic". The reason why this thing is not an implied threat is because it's clear that if you wanted to kill someone with this monstrosity, they'd be dead already :D
Especially if you shrink it into the size of a needle and tuck it in your ear
Yet it can easily kill someone with the skill hand.
Unless someone knows what its capable of.
@@Ithirahad I think he means normies who are uneducated in the way of the stick.
Monkey Stick is among my favorite sword-like weapons
A sword is just a stick with an edge
A spear is a stick with a point. 😂
@@lucasroe2878 nah, that's just the tip
Ruyi jungu bang
One blunt end and one Blunt end with a spear tip might give Shad that advantage.
So a spear.
@@Azorees-oj5zrnah let's call it pointy stick!
@@Rafaela_S. pointy stick? getting all high and mighty eh
Yeah, use one of those as the butt cap on a spear and you're golden.
The term you may be looking for to describe something that isn't going to kill people as easily is "less lethal". That's the official way the US Army started defining items after their "non-lethal" pepper paintballs started killing people.
How did the "non lethal" pepper paintballs kill anyone ?
Blunt force trauma.
Less lethal is the better word. Anything is lethal if used correctly , or wrongly if you like.
A weapon can be less lethal just as a lock can be pick-proof. Not at all.
Locks are pick resistant and weapons are less lethal. But there can and will always be the situation where things are lethal.
@@Jimalcoatl Paintballs aren't capable of killing anyone with blunt force trauma. I played paintball for many years and it was common for people to turn up the velocity of their guns so I also am more than familiar with what can happen when they shoot too fast.
You got a clink that proves that was the cause of death ?
The frame rate of the camera causing that sort of "ghosting" makes the staff look supernatural!
they're simply using too fast shutterspeed, not the fault of the frame rate
@@Niberspace ah ok, thanks
@@Niberspace Whatever the cause it looks like its enchanted.
You guys look like alotta fun to hangout with lol
for chinese staff martial arts, it's actually the perfect length for shad (brow height)
Yup, and imo, the perfect length to smoothly transition staff techniques to spear techniques to great sword techniques by changing hand holds
That glass breaker-esque tip would be brutal trusting against bone
Especially two handed against the sternum would be lethal. Would also likely flip the opponent off their feet like a rag doll.
The Ruyi Jingu Bang in the original Journey to the West - The inscription indicates that the staff follows the commands of its owner, shrinking or growing to his whim, make copies of itself, and that it is immensely heavy, weighing 17,550 lbs (7,960 kg). Monkey carried it behind his ear as a toothpick. He could also lift literal mountains with ease, so imagine how hard this stick could actually hit,
He can also turn into a small insect, flying into your mouth while you are sleeping, then let the stick revert back to its original size while inside your stomach......
@@maxm9960 He's also Immortal many times over - Daoist training, book of the dead, peaches of immortality, pills of immortality. drink, purification when the heaven's tried to melt him, and later in his Journey Ginseng Fruit (whose smell can add centuries alone) and Buddha's congratulations feast - all forms of immortality.
@@maxm9960 or not even revert it and just sorta drop it in there, i think it only changes in size not actually the weight just wukong built different, so if he just fed you the toothpick sized staff, it would tear its way straight through your body as the sheer weight of it pulverized anything in its path
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you would just explode into bloody paste if you got hit by the Monkey King as a normal dude. I mean, it's like having an object as heavy as a dump truck getting swung at you!
@maxm9960 well that part of his 72 early power
Amazing crafting and review there! Staff is indeed a powerful weapon. Yup however two of the main reasons we dont see it as a more often weapon choice in history would be
1. Staff is an effective solo weapon, however a lethal Staff hit would take quite some spaces for a full swing, making it a poor weapon choice for large scale combat where fighting were usually done in line formation and in packed spaces.
2. Staff would require more training to make it a lethal weapon, while many other weapons like spear can be pick up by anyone easily to do a lethal thrust. The skill threshold of staff made it a less popular choice for majority. Oh , btw Shad had really demonstrated some very amazing staff skills there.
I must admit, it is kinda fun watching Tyranth make and test something, then later see it here on Shadiversity. I feel like I'm in the know 😏
Yeah, watching Tyranth's channel is almost like getting a preview of what's to come on Shad's
Remember. Speak softly, and carry a big stick.
Or even better, speak softly and carry a magic, size-changing stick!
@@rayanderson5797 That, too!
What if it was a nunchucku?
@@senorstyx3011 You'll be bullied
Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt. America’s manliest president.
It gives strong Goedendag energy. All it'd need is for those spikes at the ends to be longer.
I SAID GOEDENDAG, SIR!
Iguess you overlooked some points in the copying process. As a kind of Chinese weapon, the stick(棍棒) is made of elastic wood, such as processed ash wood (白蜡木). Such a stick can store more energy, so it can be swung faster and more powerfully.
The author of "Journey to the West" chose a stick as Sun Wukong's weapon, probably because this weapon was more common among Chinese folk and Buddhist armed forces(such as Shaolin Temple 少林寺) at the time, but Sun Wukong did kill many Yaoguaies with the "jingubang" in the book.
Cool
Journey to the west is such a cool fantasy setting.
Something unmentioned is how easy it is to create one of these versus creating a proper glaive or halberd. If you had limited resources in an historical context, this would be easy to produce a bunch of out of farming implements and stuff.
Agreed. You could also just shrink an iron tube onto a staff and away you go.
So easy im making one myself!
Many thanks guys - enjoyed your video so much. And what you did was such fun! I know this Wukong thing is ancient Chinese mythology but also based on Chinese Zen/Tao/Philosophy. To appreciate the deeper meanings hidden behind all those details in the game, one could check out the Chinese novel “A journey to the west” or the Chinese Zen Book “How to be Happy: the Wisdom to Attain Happiness and Success by Constructing an Invincible Mind”.
Only those who attained true enlightenment understand the power and the glory of a good stick
We have trained with old manuscripts for "Stick" Weapons. It all began with regular sticks, then we added a tip to train for spears, followed by attaching an axe head for halberds. Lastly, we incorporated two caps for dual side fighting. It makes sense that all techniques in these three categories complement each other, offering similarities with distinct differences and unique attacks. In the Manuscripte was written, that the Stick is legal everywhere and can be used as walking stick.
Nothing better than the OG weapon
Sun Wukong's staff weighed around 17000lbs. If you can swing something that heavy around like it's a staff, it's obviously going to be stronger than any other melee weapon.
It's FantaSTICK!!!
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STICK PREMIUM, STICK PLUS - loved that... so true, nice build....I make flutes for a living we should collaborate, I've done a handful of staffs in the past... maybe we could make a staff that doubles as a weapon, but also doubles as a musical instrument!
You should take a look at the Hunting Horns from Monster Hunter
This is the AM-180 of Pole Weapons, defined as "less lethal." It can still kill you, but it requires a bit of luck and effort to do so.
The AM-180 is anything but "less lethal", the fact it was ever used as crowd control was absolutely bonkers.
Is that a radio station?
@@comradebork No, but now you got me thinking of how that radio station would word its announcements, so also, yes.
@@comradebork no, it is a machine gun with an insane rate of fire chambered in .22lr
You can watch Brandon Herrera's video on it if you search for "American 180"
@@comradebork no. It is a machine gun with a crazy high rate of fire chambered in .22lr
In China, the use of sticks is associated with the local form of Buddhism, which is the most anti-killing among all branches of Buddhism. This connection stems from China's ancient traditions. Over thousands of years, the country has seen too much bloodshed due to wars, with a history of constant violence. As a result, Chinese philosophy, including religious and political ideologies, has developed a strong aversion to killing over time. There's even a social stigma attached to professions that involve taking lives.
Additionally, China has a long history of imperial rule, which was very worldly and restrictive. Both indigenous religions and philosophical schools in China value simplicity and advocate for a life of minimal desires. They favor peace and often aspire to a life beyond the worldly concerns.
Sweet! I need to get me one of those for my personal weapons collection!
If you hit somebody with it, they could get a staff infection.
If you're practicing traditional medieval weapons craft in a training setting and you accidentally hit somebody, they could get a HEMAtoma!
"If I were at full Slayer power I would be punning right now." -- Buffy
These puns hurt me. XD
@@amyb.6368 I have to keep my sense of humor. My kid brother recently got into legal hot water.
He got lured into an investment opportunity involving a trampoline park in Prague and got arrested for bounced Czechs!
Monkey stick is not a weapon you would use in an army. You need to swing it around in big arcs, and you can't do that when in tight formation. A spear, you just poke forward. A halberd, you chop down. You can use those when you have other guys right next to you. The quarterstaff is an effective weapon for individuals, but it's not a military weapon for use in infantry formations, so you're not going to have armories full of quarterstaffs, and you're not going to have masses of people training with them.
Masses of people do train with them. They were called "Shaolin Monks".
And yes they still exists in China.
@@comradeblin256 I think you're missing a sense of scale. The Roman Empire, for example, maintained a standing army of about half a million, in order to face off against their enemies, who presumably had comparable numbers combined. As for the monks, the historical records are that they rarely went to war, and they fielded numbers in the low hundreds. There's no doubt that the monks were very competent with the staff, and with any other weapons they used, but there's not masses of them, not like the masses of conventionally armed and trained infantry.
One thing I wish fantasy fiction got better was the prevalence of polearms for. Especially in armies they'd be more prevalent than swords for the common soldier. I think people take the kind of dueling culture of the renaissance and extend it backwards into the era of broadswords and knights centuries prior.
"It's supposed to be longer" understatement of the century.
Carving walking sticks, starves is a hobby of mine. Finding the right stick is the tricky part.
Outstanding. I am enjoying your vids so very much. Very happy I stumbled across your channel a couple of days ago. I have subscribed and am in the process of catching up on your presentations. I have good friends in Scotland who just returned to their home from a vacation over here in Florida. I will tell their son about your channel also. Being an American, your new creation brings to mind a saying of one of our presidents, President Theodore Rosevelt, many years ago concerning his approach to international affairs. "Walk Softly and Carry a Big Stick."
Unfortunately, the staff in the story isn't a stick. It's actually made of solid iron and is, therefore, a rod.
"Dude: don't be a geek." -- Warren Mears, leader of the geeks
Everyone loves the stick!! 🙌 Remember when you were a kid and picked up that stick and imagined you were the best warrior and no one could stop you?
Always a spot in our hearts for Stick! Ruyi Jingu Bang!
This made me rewatch professor Chad Looks.
I believe Sun Wukong’s staff (Ruyi Jingu Bang) weighed 17,550 pounds. Great video! Black Myth Wukong and Journey to the west both incredible Stories.
It occurs to me that Shad has never done a proper video about sais! How have we not gotten a video about the preferred weapon of Raphael and Elektra? We've seen plenty of videos discussing the weapons of the other Ninja Turtles. But I need to know more about sais! Are they stabbing weapons? Could they stab? Should they stab? Are they deadly in battle or as lame as nunchucks? I can easily Google the answers to these questions, but I want Shad's opinion! I suspect we all do.
Although they are often portrayed as daggers, real sais are steel batons, lacking a point or edge. They were designed as non-leathal weapons that could counter swords and were predominantly used by the guards of nobles who forbid bladed weapons being carried in their presence to mitigate the risk of assassination. Law enforcers also used a variant with only one prong, called a jitte.
The bladed weapon that the sai is often confused with is the parry dagger, which serves the same sword-catching purpose in addition to being a stabbing sidearm. And what Elektra uses are more like parry-shortswords.
It’s a staff mace with two ends. Nice!
Petition to have a video where fans submit their own fantasy sword designs and you rate them. x3
+1 this would be fun.
ISTR Skall did this.
"This is something tha can mess people up"
SHAD: "BEAUTIFUL".
That staff would be more accurate if it was metal, as the original staff was made of pitch-black iron with both ends tipped with gold, if yours was like that it would be HEAVY.
I just left a comment mentioning the color too. I'm genuinely really curious why it's depicted as red a lot of the time.
@@JamesJohnsonQ Probable painted. It has always been depicted as a solid and smooth iron cylinder painted red and plated with gold at the two ends.
@@minhducnguyen9276 It's described as black in the book
@@JamesJohnsonQ I wonder why Chinese movies keep depicting is as a red painted staff. Must be because the 1986 series was so iconic that they keep that depiction.
The staff was originally a pillar used to hold up the undersea palace of Aoguang. The pillars that were used in palace construction during this and later periods were usually painted red, hence the colour of Wukong’s staff in latter adaptations. Black iron is more likely a description of the material.
I’ve been subscribed to you for years and I’m starting to see you in my feed more often again! Cheers!
I clicked on this 15 seconds after release. Love nerding out
6:13 fun fact about this is that there is actually a perk in game called凤穿花 (literal translation would be “phoenix piercing flower” but idk what the in game translation is, I played the Chinese version) where monke would thrust the polearm out just like that
Kingdom Come II about to go crazy on this channel.
Monkey Stick is the reason why every adventurer should carry a 10-ft pole. Not because of looking for traps and such, but because it's just a damn effective weapon that no one would assume is a weapon.
This feels like a video that Nate would've made even better
I miss Nate :(
What ever happened to them?
@@brianmoyachiuz905basically, he got a new work opportunity. Still may show up on occasion.
@@brianmoyachiuz905 He got a job.
Nate had to get a normie job due to financial reasons. He apparently got a good offer from some company and chose to leave to save the channel money and work on his career.
The reason why they didn't add any blade or real spike to the ends of the staff is very simple: It's supposed to be a non-lethal weapon. It's designed for the likes of monks in the east, who detest killing in their training and principles.
Since I did grow up with Journey to the West as a kid, I was very curious how that weapon would be evaluated by you guys.
What’s the best way for a foreigner newb to get into it? I’ve been curious
@@scottydu81 There are translated books, although to be honest, I primarily grew up with the television adaptation (most Chinese people did). I don’t recall if any adaptation, live action or animated, ever was translated to English though.
The original show's on RUclips. It'll be subbed but it's probably the easiest and most accessible way.
@@joshuatang5250 This. This is what I was asking for lol! Thank you both for your feedback!
You can never go wrong, with a stick in hand!
It's the most unassuming, yet versatile tool at your disposal.
Yes! Me Grug. In way, me be like monkay-king Wukong: in small way. Me get stick in yard. Me get stick and make pokey-pokey. Me walk with pokey-pokey. Me use pokey-pokey to fend off big bugs that bother when walk on big, long black-stone. When Grug stand on yellow stripe, big shell-bugs run up to Grug and make loud screaming noise, louder than goose’s honk. Me poke soft-spots at base, much spongy and make big bug slower. Me chase, put dents in shell. Bug no bother Grug no more, but many bugs, not all know Grug power.😂
Legend has it that the staff changes size as the user wills. The monkey used to minimize the staff and carry it in his ear canal. Makes you wonder how he ever managed to not blow his head off accidentally by subconsciously thinking about growing the staff.
Yeah but Wukong was seven times immortal. So even if it did happen all it would only give him a headache.
What you haven't realized is that Shao Lin monks had staves with metal caps on the ends specifically to increase their effectiveness against armor, and also used hexagonal and/or octagonal staves to cause more damage with the rotation of their thrusting techniques - as you turn your wrist over as you thrust, and back as you pull back - rolling the harsh edges against their opponents.
"Which weapon will you choose. A sword? An axe? A club?"
*Me:* STICK
Monks picked the staffs as their mercy weapons for self defence just because they don't cut so it shouldn't kill people but dude this thing will send the bad guys into reincarnation in a sec.
The other thing about a stick is that it's just a stick. That's the real reason staves and shillelaghs were used, they don't violate laws that say only nobles can carry weapons.
古代平民可以合法持有武器,但是不能拥有盔甲
This reminds me, I remember being told that canes and walking sticks were once common because they were used as weapons against dogs and petty criminals. I think I even saw something about a "medieval" training manual for fighting with a cane.
me: why's he wearing fur in the summertime? doesn't it get hot in australia?
me, seconds later: i forgot the southern hemisphere has backwards weather...
The stick is translated to "As one wants/will, gold and steel stick" or stick of gold and steel that answers to the user's will/wishes
It would be cool if you made a telescoping extendable version
coming to this from his series of nunchuck videos, and seeing his enthusiasm about a stick makes it even more funny
Big stick energy is back!
I'm actually doing a Wukong cosplay and I'm so happy to see that I wasn't the only one thinking that insence holders would be a good idea xD
It’s funny how despite our developments, our technology, strategies… the greatest melee combat form is always monke and stick (pointy or not)
Another benefit of having a staff with double-ended weights : if one of the ends break (or the weight flies off), you now have a nice, long one-sided club
My new favorite line from a Shadiversity video: Stick. Monkey Stick.
i like how tywinth does his own vid on it before it goes to shad, 2 different ways of looking at it, plus back story
It's a stick with two pommels. Of course Shad is gonna love it.
0:31 me when I go an a hike and i see a stick
Same here!
"Ooh LOOKATTHATSTICK!
IT'S PERFECT!"
Sticks and stones CAN break your bones! The awesomeness of the STAFF, hell yeah! Bring it on, Shad!
I mean it's a staff it should be a good weapon
I love you and Tyranth working together.
I learned some Jo techniques through Aikido and I love it so much more than bokken (sword). It is so versatile in both offense and defense.
Monke stick good.
He was correct when he said it was short. We had ones special made for us. And how we got the length was simply to put ones arm in the air. The stick had to be from the ground to the tip of our fingers. That's what we trained with. The short one we used was from the ground to ones shoulder.
Fun fact: In Japanese, Sun Wukong/ Son-Goku's stave is called the _'Nyoi-bō'_ (Nyoi stick/ staff).
Makes me think of that episode of Spongebob with Doodlebob😆
A very beautiful and inconspicuous weapon that you could walk around in casual settings.
Chinesium almost killed me laughing.
Oh yeah. About time staffs got some lovin'. It's been far too long they've been under appreciated, and Ruyi Jingu Bang is definitely the king of all staffs.
there are styles that have focus on changing the stance and the grip after you strike or during defense contact, that's where the double end comes to play
Understanding Chinese culture,This channel is very innovative and must be subscribed
The books translation I believe does call it a "would-be cudgel" which means it is more of a club than a traditional staff weapon. Strong enough to turn a normal creature into a meat patty with one heavy swing. Love the story of wukong
At 7:24 we have the "Asmongold 'long pokey boi' thrust" stance
As Theodore Roosevelt once said through a tear in time and space: “Jack: be nimble. Jack: be quick. Speak softly and carry a big stick.”