30 years of struggling with keeping the pitch smooth. 1 night of practicing this lesson and my mixes are 98% better. Thanks I never understood how this was done. Thanks sir!!
There's is also another trick 33/45 flick on and off to catch up. Works a treat if viynl is on 33. Flick to 45 for quater if a-ser then back to 33. ÷) also thumb and finger over middle hub to to spied up or slow down. With out it jumping forward or back. Great video by the way.
Jamie Clarke it’s easy dojng this when it’s on a 4 beat, try doing this with drum and bass or something, I tried and wrestled the tune in beat after about 2 mins, it’s really hard
@@jacobparkinson235 ruclips.net/video/wNIJ40KyYp4/видео.html Try matching the snares on that buddy. It aint easy, with these styles sometimes you have to just kinda match the groove so to speak. It took me a long time to manage to ride the pitch to 90% match. For me on tunes like the one ive linked, i have to just ever so slighlty nudge the platter to fine tune it to 100%
@@jacobparkinson235 i reckon he's not talking about commercial-edm-influenced-jumpuppy-or-rastavocalist (do people actually call this jungle!?) club n bass trash with just some snare. *imagine a police car * (unzee techno jahh) *chasing a crossbiker* (skizofrenic concrete-shattering amen-break disaster) *on a mountain desert track.* (let's say on a pair of those numark beltdrive vacuuum cleaners) *now, every single bump or crack* (grooves) *on the track he's flying past with terrifying speed would shoot a kick or two followed by THE snare together with her beautiful offspring.* (big up the ghosts from mr.winston!) this is where you die hard or you don't kids (hi i'm a 19 y/o stonerkid thinking he can sound like a true Oldskool Ghettoman who just found out what a keyboard is)
Very good tutorial mate, that's the way i want to learn how to beatmatch, i know i have to practice a lot to do it just the way you do. Always learning the right way with your videos, keep it up. Your the man!!!
I think this is the "hardest" way to sync 2 tracks, but very effective when you know what you're doin' and when you have to change your track fast.. easiest way is to start playing new track, pitch it up above playing track and gently slow it down with your finger on the platter or wax itself, simultaneously slowing it down on pitch.. then you do the final adjustment when the tracks are almost at same tempo..
I used to vinyl dj with funky house which was simple enough,and hip hop where you had to get out of there quick and move on,then there was garage where you had to have god and the right part of the track on your side
Mine sort of never stays in the place. Is that because I don't have Techics, I have some old Omnitronic turntables. Or could it really be just because of the lack of my experience and practice ?
Because its vinyl. will never stay for longer than 40 sec, yes some records do. You always need to keep your focus on the pitch, slightly off is not that a problem, its normal with vinyl als long you don't let them train wreck (gadugadugdau). Vinyl isn't 100% flat so you will always have to keep riding. And of course practice is the key to get it more tight, but 100% throughout the whole tune, no way. Get 2 copies of the same record, put them (zero). Start them the same moment leave the pitch on zero. Check for how long they stay in sync, you would think they should be in sync throughout the whole track. But they won't, cause they are never 100% identical cause its vinyl, no 0 and 1's (Digital). And even your technics aren't 100% identical. Yes: Turntables do play a roll in this part, wow and flutter is the tightness of the motor, Technics got a wow and flutter (0.01%) its almost nothing, so it means the motor rotates very acurate. Wich Onmintronic you got, will check the wow flutter for you. For how long your mixing? How much you practice. And how much is off , off to you? Look up sets like pioneer djs on vinyl old jeff mills car cox, they also go slightly off some times, its not an issue
I have been DJing on vinyl for about two months now and I have a question. Is there a best practice for when one wishes to mix two tracks that are different in tempo. I specifically refer to the following situation: Lets say I have a record playing and the pitch fader is at 0%, the record I would like to bring in needs to be around +2%. Personally I would speed up the record I want to bring in, but is there any reason why I should speed up the record that is currently playing? Or should I make the records meet in the middle to avoid/reduce a change to harmonic tone? I would do the latter if the difference in BPM between the two records was greater. Thanks in advance.
@@roberttodd2414 Hey Robert, I got a question. I just got my first pair of decks and I’m about to start learning the art of beat matching. However, I can’t wrap my head around one thing specifically. So, let’s say for example the track that is playing is at 120bpms. I want to bring in next the 125bpm track. Now, since you’re not supposed to touch the pitch of the track that is currently playing (since the audience could notice it), it means I have one option, and that is to slower down the 125bpm track to 120 in order to mix it in. Now what I can’t understand is, if I’m going to slow down any track that is going in next, how am I supposed to lift the bpm up during the set (I mean, if I start the set with some easy 120bpm disco house, how to get to the point in the set where I’m gonna mix some 128/130 house/techno/whatever? Thanks!
those are concordes. there's a lot of opinions going around, the concordes or the shure m44-7's will do fine. I'd recommend the tried and try shure's. Just make sure to leave them sitting on a record for 2 days
I have to ask why mix like that? I like to start fast keeping it in time by slowing down by hand as I adjust the pitch until it’s in time, this just looks like it would ware out your pitch fader prematurely
If you get really good it allows absolute flawless mixing without event hearing small pitchbends … also for me personally it allows me to beatmatch them basically immediately At the end of the day I think the best thing is to use every technique according to the situation
@@simonbuchner8330 can you try practicing this with just basic controller? I'd think so, since the principles are the same, but wanted to make sure.. In an ideal world I'd have space and money to get 2 turntablex and mixer to go along, but in reality I can only have a ddj now but I still think it's important to beatmatch by ear.
@@joaoafonsoa.pereiradasilva8923 yes you can :) just make sure that the pitch fader is long enough. Some smaller controller have smaller pitchfaders and that makes it a lot harder because you cannot get the right sensitivity. Also make sure it’s set to the smallest range possible
Depends on your preference. I either use the Split or Cue both parallel. (Split is the cue on one side and the output/master at the other side of the headphones.) Edit: Just saw it was a year ago. Hope you found your way.
+ellaskins ok im in miami at the moment back uk next Thurs .. If your in twitter @djmarkMurray or find miami house fbook send pm either way love to have you on the show !!
pat test sticker on the top plate of a 1200 is the ugliest thing I've seen. the ugliest I have heard is you saying you coined the term "riding the pitch"
yeah I definitely remember reading about this technique (and pretty sure with the same name) on a DJ related email list in the late 1990s (when people used listservs lol). He says he came up with this in 2005? As for the technique itself, people were definitely doing this as early as the late 1970s; some of the old disco clubs had belt tables (Thorens TD-125 mk2); no way you could beat match those tables other than pitch riding since if you put your finger on the platter it would take 10 seconds to come back to speed lol. All that said, props for a good tutorial, just gotta give credit where it's due.
hey can someone help me with this so basicly when i do a mix i either do it by mix of drops or when the music slows a bit put the start of another song in but when i mix it doesnt seem to be like dj elaskins like he can get 1 song to play with another song all the way how do you know that the different parts eg. the drop parts after the drop etc. how do you know that you can beatmatch it and everything will be fine or dont you and if you do how do you do this.how do you know everything will fit together. do you count all the different part of the song or something because i dont know?
+Reece Johnson - yep, you get to know your tunes, you can count too... When you practice, try experimenting... Just like ellaskins, you can practice many different ways of performing 1 mix... what happens when I release the record here, what happens when I drop the tune in there... It's all practice... Counting helps and knowing your tunes too... once you get a few in, you will see how many tunes (esp with dance music) follows a certain formula.... Just have to know your tunes! :)
+Dan R thanks dan for the help one question though i heard how as you said the formula is the same eg. dance music,club music etc. but i looked at this with some club music when i tried this (the formula is the same / prhases) it wasnt the same eg. both songs changed at 8 bars either that or i couldnt tell of the differences eg. might have been a small difference like a small thing added to the beat such as symbol but when i looked at 2 songs one kept changing after 8 bars and the other song wasnt regular at all it was like 4,2,8 etc completely random from what i could tell. you see it wasnt regualer would you know why this is am i looking at this the wrong way (am i looking at prhases the wrong way not just the song)
+Reece Johnson Yes, you're probably right... these rule (esp in music) are made to be broken! - that's why you did right, you counted the bars of the phrases and concluded that 1 of them doesn't obey "that rule" What I meant was very general, but more often than not, dance music kind of follows an 8 or 16 or 32 bar "rule" but sometimes this does get broken, esp when dealing with radio versions or even the main recording... the point is though, to get to know your tunes like this... keep experimenting and counting... once you know the phrasing of a tune, you should be able to know when to drop it so it alignes for your mix (and maybe even you are restricted to only being able to mix for 2 or 4 or 8 bars... (or even, you might find that you could drop the tune that goes 4,2,8 after 2 bars, leaving you 6 mars of mix for the 4 and 2... then drop on the 8 (or maybe even the final 8 you mention can be played with your tune...) Hope this helps... I was being very generalizing when I said about the rule... but the point really was to get to know your tunes...) - wich tunes obeay a rule... like "this is a 16 track", "this is an 8 or 32 track" then when you next mix it, you know both tracks rule and you can go! :)
30 years of struggling with keeping the pitch smooth. 1 night of practicing this lesson and my mixes are 98% better. Thanks I never understood how this was done. Thanks sir!!
This technique changed the whole game for me - way more effective than touching the platter. Can't thank you enough
There's is also another trick 33/45 flick on and off to catch up. Works a treat if viynl is on 33. Flick to 45 for quater if a-ser then back to 33. ÷) also thumb and finger over middle hub to to spied up or slow down. With out it jumping forward or back. Great video by the way.
I rode the pitch when I played TTs. This is the first time I've heard that. Thanks for giving it a name!
Beatmatching like this separates the men from the boys. End of.
Jamie Clarke it’s easy dojng this when it’s on a 4 beat, try doing this with drum and bass or something, I tried and wrestled the tune in beat after about 2 mins, it’s really hard
@@drakevevo3710 Its the same on dnb you just match the snare.
@@jacobparkinson235 ruclips.net/video/wNIJ40KyYp4/видео.html
Try matching the snares on that buddy. It aint easy, with these styles sometimes you have to just kinda match the groove so to speak. It took me a long time to manage to ride the pitch to 90% match. For me on tunes like the one ive linked, i have to just ever so slighlty nudge the platter to fine tune it to 100%
right on
the real OG men are able to do this but even in the middle of a breakdown or vocal section
@@jacobparkinson235 i reckon he's not talking about commercial-edm-influenced-jumpuppy-or-rastavocalist (do people actually call this jungle!?) club n bass trash with just some snare.
*imagine a police car * (unzee techno jahh) *chasing a crossbiker* (skizofrenic concrete-shattering amen-break disaster) *on a mountain desert track.* (let's say on a pair of those numark beltdrive vacuuum cleaners)
*now, every single bump or crack* (grooves) *on the track he's flying past with terrifying speed would shoot a kick or two followed by THE snare together with her beautiful offspring.* (big up the ghosts from mr.winston!)
this is where you die hard or you don't kids (hi i'm a 19 y/o stonerkid thinking he can sound like a true Oldskool Ghettoman who just found out what a keyboard is)
Very good tutorial mate, that's the way i want to learn how to beatmatch, i know i have to practice a lot to do it just the way you do. Always learning the right way with your videos, keep it up. Your the man!!!
I think this is the "hardest" way to sync 2 tracks, but very effective when you know what you're doin' and when you have to change your track fast.. easiest way is to start playing new track, pitch it up above playing track and gently slow it down with your finger on the platter or wax itself, simultaneously slowing it down on pitch.. then you do the final adjustment when the tracks are almost at same tempo..
+T0mB1ll you've gotta learn that instinct... as to if an incoming track is faster or slower than the currently playing track.
@@DJRickDawson Still tricky but getting there !!! a few years of practice and it wont be hard anymore =D
@@alvaritowdiesel1 How this going btw lol?
I used to vinyl dj with funky house which was simple enough,and hip hop where you had to get out of there quick and move on,then there was garage where you had to have god and the right part of the track on your side
try mixing jungle
Props for using a fab Green Velvet track. Good shit mate!
+JUKE179r ONLY THE BEST WILL DO!!!! RELIEF RECORDS KICKS A55!!!
ellaskins Yes Sir!!!!
A lesson on mixing original mid 90s jungle would be good. The tracks are all over the place. Difficult getting started. Please help!
that was awesome, insightful, and you beatmatched at the end was genius. thank u!!!
This is a lot more difficult than i thought :D I can briefly speed up or slow it down in beat but just a second after it goes out again.
How are you distinguishing which track was faster without using the headphones?
Love vinyl turntables, not long had some new ones, not mixed for 6 yrs :(
Nice video on advanced beat matching
Make DJing Great Again!
Banger ... and amazing
great man Ella! cool the Relief record
That green velvet track is an absolute corker!
rekordbox djs are really sweet
So gooood
Another awesome tutorial
great demo
Excellent tip for when you gotta be quick and running out of record 8)
superb demo
very good
This dude must be buzzing...loool
Beat matching = use your ears
I have a question, according to your opinion, of course. Is it worth buying two turntables Pioneer PLX-1000.
Regards
get technics
If you can't get technics, PLX-1000 is the closest you'll get to technics so yeah its a fine purchase
Get Plx 1000 their the next to Technics 1210s serious I’ve a Pair
Mine sort of never stays in the place. Is that because I don't have Techics, I have some old Omnitronic turntables. Or could it really be just because of the lack of my experience and practice ?
Because its vinyl. will never stay for longer than 40 sec, yes some records do. You always need to keep your focus on the pitch, slightly off is not that a problem, its normal with vinyl als long you don't let them train wreck (gadugadugdau). Vinyl isn't 100% flat so you will always have to keep riding. And of course practice is the key to get it more tight, but 100% throughout the whole tune, no way. Get 2 copies of the same record, put them (zero). Start them the same moment leave the pitch on zero. Check for how long they stay in sync, you would think they should be in sync throughout the whole track. But they won't, cause they are never 100% identical cause its vinyl, no 0 and 1's (Digital). And even your technics aren't 100% identical.
Yes: Turntables do play a roll in this part, wow and flutter is the tightness of the motor, Technics got a wow and flutter (0.01%) its almost nothing, so it means the motor rotates very acurate.
Wich Onmintronic you got, will check the wow flutter for you.
For how long your mixing? How much you practice. And how much is off , off to you?
Look up sets like pioneer djs on vinyl old jeff mills car cox, they also go slightly off some times, its not an issue
Wooo
I have been DJing on vinyl for about two months now and I have a question. Is there a best practice for when one wishes to mix two tracks that are different in tempo. I specifically refer to the following situation: Lets say I have a record playing and the pitch fader is at 0%, the record I would like to bring in needs to be around +2%. Personally I would speed up the record I want to bring in, but is there any reason why I should speed up the record that is currently playing? Or should I make the records meet in the middle to avoid/reduce a change to harmonic tone? I would do the latter if the difference in BPM between the two records was greater. Thanks in advance.
@@roberttodd2414 Hey Robert, I got a question. I just got my first pair of decks and I’m about to start learning the art of beat matching. However, I can’t wrap my head around one thing specifically. So, let’s say for example the track that is playing is at 120bpms. I want to bring in next the 125bpm track. Now, since you’re not supposed to touch the pitch of the track that is currently playing (since the audience could notice it), it means I have one option, and that is to slower down the 125bpm track to 120 in order to mix it in. Now what I can’t understand is, if I’m going to slow down any track that is going in next, how am I supposed to lift the bpm up during the set (I mean, if I start the set with some easy 120bpm disco house, how to get to the point in the set where I’m gonna mix some 128/130 house/techno/whatever? Thanks!
@@roberttodd2414 cheers for that mate, appreciate it! I had something like that in my mind, but still wanted to confirm.
Are those the concorde dj e stylus ? I love mixing old skool hardcore so which stylus would you recommend ?
those are concordes. there's a lot of opinions going around, the concordes or the shure m44-7's will do fine. I'd recommend the tried and try shure's. Just make sure to leave them sitting on a record for 2 days
I have to ask why mix like that? I like to start fast keeping it in time by slowing down by hand as I adjust the pitch until it’s in time, this just looks like it would ware out your pitch fader prematurely
If you get really good it allows absolute flawless mixing without event hearing small pitchbends … also for me personally it allows me to beatmatch them basically immediately
At the end of the day I think the best thing is to use every technique according to the situation
@@simonbuchner8330 can you try practicing this with just basic controller? I'd think so, since the principles are the same, but wanted to make sure..
In an ideal world I'd have space and money to get 2 turntablex and mixer to go along, but in reality I can only have a ddj now but I still think it's important to beatmatch by ear.
@@joaoafonsoa.pereiradasilva8923 yes you can :) just make sure that the pitch fader is long enough. Some smaller controller have smaller pitchfaders and that makes it a lot harder because you cannot get the right sensitivity. Also make sure it’s set to the smallest range possible
@@simonbuchner8330 My current one is just the new DDJ-FLX4.. so I wonder and try it i guess
what is the best mode to do this? listening the whole mix or just one track in one ear and the other monitoring?
Depends on your preference. I either use the Split or Cue both parallel. (Split is the cue on one side and the output/master at the other side of the headphones.) Edit: Just saw it was a year ago. Hope you found your way.
Really want u to do a mix for my radio show. .. !!
+mark murray THE MIAMI HOUSE SHOW count me in practisenjoy@djtutor.com
+ellaskins ok im in miami at the moment back uk next Thurs .. If your in twitter @djmarkMurray or find miami house fbook send pm either way love to have you on the show !!
pat test sticker on the top plate of a 1200 is the ugliest thing I've seen.
the ugliest I have heard is you saying you coined the term "riding the pitch"
reminds me of that episode of curb
yeah I definitely remember reading about this technique (and pretty sure with the same name) on a DJ related email list in the late 1990s (when people used listservs lol). He says he came up with this in 2005? As for the technique itself, people were definitely doing this as early as the late 1970s; some of the old disco clubs had belt tables (Thorens TD-125 mk2); no way you could beat match those tables other than pitch riding since if you put your finger on the platter it would take 10 seconds to come back to speed lol. All that said, props for a good tutorial, just gotta give credit where it's due.
hey can someone help me with this so basicly when i do a mix i either do it by mix of drops or when the music slows a bit put the start of another song in but when i mix it doesnt seem to be like dj elaskins like he can get 1 song to play with another song all the way how do you know that the different parts eg. the drop parts after the drop etc. how do you know that you can beatmatch it and everything will be fine or dont you and if you do how do you do this.how do you know everything will fit together. do you count all the different part of the song or something because i dont know?
+Reece Johnson - yep, you get to know your tunes, you can count too... When you practice, try experimenting... Just like ellaskins, you can practice many different ways of performing 1 mix... what happens when I release the record here, what happens when I drop the tune in there... It's all practice... Counting helps and knowing your tunes too... once you get a few in, you will see how many tunes (esp with dance music) follows a certain formula.... Just have to know your tunes! :)
+Dan R thanks dan for the help one question though i heard how as you said the formula is the same eg. dance music,club music etc. but i looked at this with some club music when i tried this (the formula is the same / prhases) it wasnt the same eg. both songs changed at 8 bars either that or i couldnt tell of the differences eg. might have been a small difference like a small thing added to the beat such as symbol but when i looked at 2 songs one kept changing after 8 bars and the other song wasnt regular at all it was like 4,2,8 etc completely random from what i could tell. you see it wasnt regualer would you know why this is am i looking at this the wrong way (am i looking at prhases the wrong way not just the song)
+Reece Johnson Yes, you're probably right... these rule (esp in music) are made to be broken! - that's why you did right, you counted the bars of the phrases and concluded that 1 of them doesn't obey "that rule"
What I meant was very general, but more often than not, dance music kind of follows an 8 or 16 or 32 bar "rule"
but sometimes this does get broken, esp when dealing with radio versions or even the main recording...
the point is though, to get to know your tunes like this... keep experimenting and counting... once you know the phrasing of a tune, you should be able to know when to drop it so it alignes for your mix (and maybe even you are restricted to only being able to mix for 2 or 4 or 8 bars... (or even, you might find that you could drop the tune that goes 4,2,8 after 2 bars, leaving you 6 mars of mix for the 4 and 2... then drop on the 8 (or maybe even the final 8 you mention can be played with your tune...)
Hope this helps... I was being very generalizing when I said about the rule... but the point really was to get to know your tunes...) - wich tunes obeay a rule... like "this is a 16 track", "this is an 8 or 32 track" then when you next mix it, you know both tracks rule and you can go! :)
+Dan R thanks for the answers dan
:D
Another awesome tutorial